Jayhawks facing long odds yet again during upcoming football season


As the beginning of fall camp draws near and preseason predictions pop up just about everywhere you look, the Kansas University football program continues to see the odds of a decent season stacked against it.

Earlier today, I received an email from the folks at with the updated odds on each school's chances of winning its respective conference this season.

Not surprisingly, KU was the biggest of the long shots in the Big 12, at 100-1. If you scroll through the rest of the conferences you'll see that they capped the longest odds at 100-1, which I suppose makes sense for the oddsmakers but seems a little off from where I sit.

Don't get me wrong here; I think KU will be a much improved team in 2013 and I'm fully expecting the Jayhawks to win a Big 12 game or two. But if I'm putting down any money on the Jayhawks to win the entire conference, I'd sure like to see my payout be greater than 100-1 if they actually pulled it off.

For the record, I'm not betting on KU or anyone else to win the Big 12 this season, but I did pick Texas on my preseason ballot.

Inside the program, KU coach Charlie Weis and his staff and players will continue to use things like this as motivation. They know that nobody outside of the walls of their football complex believes KU will be much more competitive this season in the conference than they have been in the past few.

But they also believe — even if they aren't saying it — that those people will be wrong.

As you know, KU was picked to finish 10th in the 10-team Big 12 by the media. And most of the preseason college football magazines I've scanned have the Jayhawks slotted in the cellar, as well.

But I have heard, oh-so-quietly, from a few people out there who are willing to say that KU will be the surprise team in the Big 12 this season. What that means is not exactly clear. By calling them the "surprise team" they could be saying that most people expect them to win zero games and they see them winning 3 or 4. They could also be calling them a surprise team because they believe they can finish in the top half of the league. Who knows?

The good news here is that, a week from tomorrow, we'll begin the quest to finding out, as KU's fall camp opens and the season officially gets under way.

In the meantime, here's a look at the rest of those odds in the other major conferences.

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Big 12 Conference
Oklahoma State 5/2
Texas 5/2
Oklahoma 3/1
TCU 15/4
Baylor 12/1
Kansas State 12/1
Texas Tech 25/1
West Virginia 25/1
Iowa State 40/1
Kansas 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 American Athletic Conference
Louisville 4/7
Cincinnati 4/1
Rutgers 4/1
UCF 15/2
SMU 25/1
Connecticut 33/1
South Florida 33/1
Houston 50/1
Memphis 66/1
Temple 75/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Atlantic Coast Conference
Clemson 19/10
Florida State 5/2
Miami 7/2
Virginia Tech 15/2
North Carolina 8/1
Georgia Tech 12/1
Pittsburgh 33/1
Virginia 33/1
North Carolina State 50/1
Maryland 66/1
Syracuse 66/1
Boston College 75/1
Duke 100/1
Wake Forest 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Big Ten Conference
Ohio State 5/6
Michigan 4/1
Nebraska 13/2
Michigan State 15/2
Wisconsin 15/2
Northwestern 10/1
Iowa 33/1
Indiana 50/1
Minnesota 66/1
Purdue 75/1
Illinois 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Mountain West Conference
Boise State 7/5
Fresno State 2/1
Utah State 11/2
San Diego State 13/2
San Jose State 10/1
Colorado State 33/1
Nevada 33/1
Air Force 40/1
Hawaii 40/1
Wyoming 40/1
New Mexico 100/1
UNLV 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Pac-12 Conference
Oregon 7/4
Stanford 9/2
USC 5/1
Arizona 15/2
UCLA 15/2
Arizona State 9/1
Oregon State 10/1
Washington 12/1
Utah 28/1
California 50/1
Washington State 50/1
Colorado 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Southeastern Conference
Alabama 1/1
Georgia 7/2
South Carolina 9/2
Texas A&M 15/2
Florida 9/1
LSU 9/1
Ole Miss 33/1
Tennessee 50/1
Vanderbilt 50/1
Missouri 66/1
Arkansas 75/1
Auburn 75/1
Mississippi State 75/1
Kentucky 100/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Mid American Conference
Northern Illinois 13/10
Bowling Green 7/2
Ball State 5/1
Ohio 15/2
Kent State 15/2
Toledo 10/1
Buffalo 12/1
Miami-Ohio 20/1
Western Michigan 33/1
Central Michigan 40/1
Eastern Michigan 75/1
Massachusetts 75/1
Akron 75/1

Odds to win the 2013-2014 Conference USA
Tulsa 2/1
East Carolina 15/4
Marshall 15/4
Rice 5/1
Middle Tennessee 12/1
UAB 15/1
Louisiana Tech 15/1
North Texas 20/1
Southern Miss 20/1
UTEP 25/1
Florida Atlantic 28/1
Tulane 33/1
Florida International 33/1
UTSA 66/1


Ron Prichard 4 years, 8 months ago

Matt, OSU is 5/6 odds of winning the Big 10? Is that right? That is crazy if it is. Even Alabama is only getting 1/1 odds. I think once they get past the first 5-6 schools in a conference they are just throwing out random numbers. Utah at 28/1? Minnesota at 66/1? Not that I disagree, but it seems to be pretty random.

On a side note, my brother was in Vegas recently and I had him throw $50 on KU basketball to win the NCAA title at 8/1 odds. I wish I could have gotten the bet in before Wiggins committed. I usually don't bet on KU because I can't get past my bias, but I figured if it was one bet for the entire season I could break the rule just once.

Matt Tait 4 years, 8 months ago

That's right. Ohio State is expected to be one of the best teams in the country this year and the Big Ten is down. Not getting great value with that bet if you take it, but it's pretty telling of how big of a favorite the Buckeyes are to win the conference this season. Can't say I disagree.

As for your hoops bet, that's still a nice payout if it comes through....

Ron Prichard 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks Matt. That still seems like crazy odds for any team before they even play a game.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 8 months ago

Preseason polls are about useless as the teats on a boor hog. All this speculation when no ball has been thrown are pure crap.

But 100/1, that sounds about right for Kansas. What an incredible grasp on the obvious!!

BainDread 4 years, 8 months ago

According to the article, these are odds made by oddsmakers. It's their job and it's a serious business. These are not poll numbers.

texashawk10 4 years, 8 months ago

LSU at 9-1 is tempting. They've shown they can beat Alabama and Johnny Manziel is looking like he will be a bust this season and A&M will start heading for mid pack where they'll be most seasons. I also really hate saying this, but KSU at 12-1 isn't a bad bet either.

Ron Prichard 4 years, 8 months ago

I looked at a few of those odds and thought the same thing. Spread a few bets around on some of the middle of the pack teams with long odds and hope for a nice payoff.

Sparko 4 years, 8 months ago

I would bet these odds in a heartbeat. The reality is the Big XII isn't that great this year. KU's offense might make a big dent. This isn't the 1971 Big 8.

ahpersecoachingexperience 4 years, 8 months ago

When we say "picked 10th/finished 10 in the Big 12" I like to pretend we are better than 2 other teams!!

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 8 months ago

Now that's funny Lol Way to be optimistic!!

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 8 months ago

Holy cow, why not bet 100 bucks on KU? That's a nice payoff. I mean there is only 10 teams and anything can happen.

KJD 4 years, 8 months ago

This is the first time that is struck me, and I'm sure it's been reported somewhere, how much of the initial American Athletic Conference football conference is made up of old Conference USA teams.

Louisville (1995-2005)

Cincinnati (1995-2005)

South Florida (1995-2005)

Memphis (1995-2005)

Houston (1995-2005)

UCF (2005-2013)

SMU (2005-2013)

Rutgers and Connecticut are old Big East and Temple is A-10.

Armen Kurdian 4 years, 8 months ago

Kansas football will win the national championship this year. You just all mark my words. It's going to happen.

Jerry Long 4 years, 8 months ago

Barkeep, I'll have one of those, whatever he's drinking. Seriously, 1510, keep on being that optimistic, and I will try my best to follow.

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