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Former KU quarterback Brock Berglund issues statement saying KU won't grant release

Update from KU:

A KU spokesperson said university officials had no comment because the matter is pending an appeal. A decision is expected in the next week or so.

Original Post:

The following is the press release drawn up by the attorney for former Kansas University quarterback Brock Berglund, who was dismissed from the team by KU coach Charlie Weis on Monday for missing a mandatory team meeting.

Berglund, a freshman from Highlands Ranch, Colo., emailed the release to about a dozen media members.

Brock Berglund Seeks Official Release from University of Kansas Football Program After Initial Denial

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Colorado Springs, CO. January 19, 2012 — The University of Kansas (KU) football program has a new coach, Charlie Weis, and several high-profile transfers from other programs. Fortunately for KU, schools such as Notre Dame, BYU and Oklahoma have released incoming KU transfers, quarterback Dayne Crist, quarterback Jake Heaps and receiver Justin McCay, from their respective commitments to those programs.

Unfortunately for Brock Berglund, KU, however, has refused to extend the same courtesy.

Berglund, a freshman, was heavily recruited out of high school, and accepted a scholarship to KU in 2010, primarily because of the bond formed between him and then-coach Turner Gill during the recruiting process. Gill assured Berglund that his quarterbacking skill set was a perfect fit for the KU offense, and that he expected Berglund to compete for the starter's role right away. However, KU terminated Gill and his staff at the end of the season, and hired Charlie Weis as its head coach.

Shortly thereafter, Weis successfully landed his high-profile transfers -- all of whom he had previously recruited out of high school when he was head coach at Notre Dame. In December, 2011, Berglund was informed during a short conversation with new quarterbacks coach Ron Powlus that Crist, the Irish's former starting quarterback, would start for the KU football team in 2012, and that Berglund was only competing for the backup quarterback position. Given the change in coaching staffs and offensive philosophies, and the abrupt demotion, in December 2011, Berglund requested permission from KU to enable him to speak with other Division I-A football programs about a possible transfer.

Without KU's permission, NCAA rules prohibit any contact between Berglund and other Division I-A programs, effectively precluding the player's ability to explore any other potential opportunities prior to considering a transfer.

Despite the information communicated by Coach Weis, Berglund’s written request to KU made clear that it was “simply a request to communicate with other coaches and [was] not intended to alter [his] status as a University of Kansas student athlete in any way.”

What ensued was a six-sentence response letter from Theresa Becker, Associate Athletics Director at KU, which not only denied Berglund’s request to communicate with other coaches but made clear that, while he had not even asked, Berglund would not be released from his commitment to the KU football program. Specifically, Becker stated that:

“[i]n consultation with Dr. Sheahon Zenger, Director of Athletics for the University of Kansas, we are denying your request for permission to have contact with another university regarding your decision to transfer. Additionally, your request to be released from the University of Kansas is also denied.”

The balance of Becker’s letter informed Berglund that he had three business days to appeal KU’s decision to the KU Student-Athlete Appeals Board (SAAB). No reason for the denial or other information was contained in Becker’s response letter.

Berglund has consulted with an attorney, Vince Linden, regarding KU’s decision and has informed KU that he intends to appeal the denial of his request. Linden confirmed that KU has scheduled an appeals hearing before the SAAB, but stated “beyond that, we have no information regarding the basis for KU's decision. Neither the coaching staff nor the administration have provided any information or criteria upon which they based their decision."

Due to the scheduled appeal hearing, and because his attendance may have subjected him, pursuant to strict NCAA requirements, to complete an additional academic semester at KU, Berglund did not attend a mandatory team meeting last Sunday, but informed KU in advance of the meeting that he would not be in attendance. However, Berglund was dismissed from the team by KU and Weis on Monday, reportedly for failing to attend the Sunday meeting. Berglund learned about his dismissal, not from Weis or anyone else at KU, but via Twitter and internet media outlets, which reported that during Weis' press conference he personally introduced his new high-profile quarterback transfers and announced certain "dismissals" from the team -- including Berglund.

KU scheduled Berglund's SAAB appeal hearing after Weis' press conference, signaling that the athletic administration still intends to defend its denial of Berglund's request.

No further explanation or justification of KU's decision has been offered since its initial written denial.

Berglund plans to follow the required appeal procedure and hopes that KU will reconsider its decision and allow him the same opportunity which the KU football program accepted from the athletic administrations at Notre Dame, BYU, and Oklahoma -- the opportunity for a fresh start.

His attorney, Linden, is cautiously optimistic and wrote:

"The SAAB's inquiry will focus on whether the decision was fair and just given the circumstances. Any objective observer, shown all the facts, will know that the decision was not only unfair, but was arbitrary and capricious, and should be overturned. It will be very interesting to hear KU's explanation, particularly in light of the fact that it so gleefully courted players who were granted releases from their own respective programs, and wished the best of luck by their former coaches."

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Comments

madcow 2 years, 7 months ago

Yeahhhh, they should just let him go.

If he leaves, who would be the backup quarterback?

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jhox 2 years, 7 months ago

We've kicked him off the team, what's the point in keeping him? We get Heaps and McKay from other schools as transfers, then we deny a request from one of our own guys to transfer? I'm sorry, but that's bush league.

While I don't like the fact that the kid used a scholarship for an entire year without doing anything (practice wise or in games) to earn it, there is no point holding him back.Especially if it was true that he was told he would be competing for the back up spot and not the starting job. If you're not going to give a kid a fair shot to earn the starting job, then let him go. This is the first move that Weis has made that I'm totally against.

If we stand by this decision, good luck in us getting any more transfers released to us from other schools.

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Justin Millsap 2 years, 7 months ago

I believe the point of denying the release is more about the kid not holding up his end of the bargain, so to speak. No doubt, there are a lot of facts missing about the surrounding circumstances. Few can argue that Berglund did much, if anything, to earn his free year of education and training.

This will in no way affect KU's future ability to accept transfers from other schools. Releases are granted before we can even begin talking to potential transfer candidates.

Other schools could try to use it against us in recruiting by saying "What happens if you're not happy at Kansas? You're stuck 'cause they won't release you." or something to that effect.

Frankly, I wouldn't want to recruit players who anticipate needing a way out to begin with.

Last point--no one said or reported that Weis did not intend to give the kid a shot at the starting job. The article reads that Berglund had a short conversation with Powlus, the quarterbacks coach, about Crist. Berglund probably got the impression that competition for the starting job would be a losing battle. His "run to the media" actions have immature cry-baby written all over them.

In the end, he should be released. Just not before going through a large amount of ass-pain as a consequence for his behavior.

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Steve Corder 2 years, 7 months ago

marqjbm, you got it right except for the last sentence.

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Cmill1221 2 years, 7 months ago

I wonder if he will show up for the hearing?

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John Myers 2 years, 7 months ago

I like how the release conveniently doesn't include any of the crap about how he was here and left and was supposed to come back and didn't, and had legal trouble, and wasn't here, and came back, and blah blah blah blah blah..

Let him go, I don't even want him around..

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

What's your point His past problems and issues are known to anyone who follows KU football. Why restate what is publicly known and a given. Its time to move away from from this fractured, fleeting relationship and focus on the task of rebuilding a team that a few weeks ago had hit bottom. The sooner the program cuts all ties with this guy, the better. And the only way to do that efficiently and effectively is to give him his walking papers.

Have you considered how standing in his way might throw up a caution flag to potential recruits. I am sure our competitors will be sure to remind joint recruits of KU's recalcitrance in refusing to issue a release.

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BigBlue4KU 2 years, 7 months ago

Nonsense. How many kids transfer? How many kids plan on transferring when they accept a scholarship? What are you, the avatar for Berglund's lawyer? Get real.

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Kyle Rohde 2 years, 7 months ago

Yep, what's the point of holding onto him? Madcow, I think Cummings is the backup right now?

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

He obviously doesn't want to be here. So why do we want him, and why are we standing in the way of his education and shot at a professional football career. Show some class, Zenger, and let him go. We're better than that.

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railer20 2 years, 7 months ago

The kid doesn't have a shot at a pro career because he seems to think he needs everything handed to him. Sorry, there is only one Turner Gill that will look out for one player's best interest instead of the team's best interest.

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John Boyle 2 years, 7 months ago

That is an incorrect statement. Gill may not have been a good coach but he cared for all players. He tried to help Berglund through a difficult situation. You can complain about a lot of things during Gill's tenure but looking out for one players interest over the interest of the team isn't one of them.

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Horace 2 years, 7 months ago

There must be more to the story otherwise it's quite a boneheaded decision by Zenger.

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sevenyearhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

Did he accuse someone of trying to crush him like a dove?

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GridironHawk 2 years, 7 months ago

I'm sure the fact that KU has paid for a full year of his schooling already with NOTHING in return plays into this. The reason none of that is mentioned in the "letter to the media" is because they are looking for sympathy. This "lawyer" knows they have no case or he would take KU to court. Instead he is trying to manipulate the public opinion by only giving one sided facts (what lawyers are very good at)...

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Steve Quatrocky 2 years, 7 months ago

Amen Horace, the recruit can talk about it, the school has to be very careful about what they say per NCAA rules. The way this kid has been in, out , in, out, it could be a multitude of issues. But, if he would have attended the mandatory meeting, it wouldnt be this way. A man would have gone to the meeting and then informed the coaching staff of his decision to leave, and desire to talk to other teams, face to face.

Given he didnt show up last year, to make his decision to leave because he is no longer the starter and has to compete for the job, even a back up spot, should be expected, even without a coaching change. If he was really that good and had that much potential, you would think he'd be chomping at the bit just to rub shoulders with Charlie Weiss.

My guess is that there is still some unfinished business, like completing another semester of study, that has to be taken care of before the school will grant a release. He waited too long and miscalculated that skipping the meeting would get him out of that requirement.

He sounds like a real head case, I dont want him either, but I dont want a release to hurt the program either.

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hawk316 2 years, 7 months ago

Seems to me, at least from what is presented here, that Brock has a reasonable beef. Hopefully, justice will be served and things will work out for the best both for him and for the University.

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oldalum 2 years, 7 months ago

Of course it does. It was written by his lawyer.

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drnater 2 years, 7 months ago

Why grant him the release? He didnt hold up his end of the commitment, so why should we grant him anything? I have a feeling thats a key factor in this whole thing.

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Horace 2 years, 7 months ago

So KU feels it needs to punish a 19 year old that just wants to move on with his life?

Real classy.

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drnater 2 years, 7 months ago

So by signing a LOI and never actually doing anything besides taking classes for free is acceptable? You have to hold the kid accountable for something! He abused his scholarship at KU by never actually joining the team, so why should he be allowed to join another team?

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

why should he be allowed to join another team?

Shouldn't that be an issue for the other team to decide

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drnater 2 years, 7 months ago

Not since we denied his release. If you sign a contract your required to uphold your end of the deal. If a scholarship student doesnt hold up their gpa, he loses his scholarship. Yet, if this guy gets a football scholarship and isnt even on campus to play football he should just be allowed to go? That just seems rediculous to me.

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jhox 2 years, 7 months ago

LOI is a series of one year contracts. These things go both ways. Just ask Jordan Webb. We need to let him go and move on. It's clear he's not on the team and not going to be on the team, so why the need to be vindictive?

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drnater 2 years, 7 months ago

Yes, he graduated early and was suppose to come here last January. Never came if I remember right, then in March/April he got arrested for punching a guy "defending his gf." He then came to KU for the fall semester, praciced for what? A couple days, and then left because him and TG decided he needed to take care of that. Since that time he asked for a release from a scholarship that he had done absolutely nothing to deserve. Yet, we should allow this release?

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actorman 2 years, 7 months ago

Yes, we should allow the release because it does KU no good to deny it. Even if you're right that he doesn't deserve it (which I'm not sure about, since none of us know all the facts), how would it help KU in any way to drag this thing out any longer than necessary? In fact, it might hurt KU in recruiting if other schools can point out that we're trying to force someone who's unhappy at KU to be stuck there rather than be allowed to go elsewhere.

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bradh 2 years, 7 months ago

I had no problem with not releasing him while he was still on the team. Now that we made the decision to drop him from the team I think it is also time to release him from his commitment and move on.

I did find the lawyer's letter to be quite funny. "Abrupt demotion"? Shoot, the kid wasn't even competing for a back up QB position under Gill, he wasn't here to compete. I also enjoyed the part about giving notice that he wasn't going to make the team meeting. He gave less that two hours notice, if I recall correctly. It wouldn't surprise me if he was sitting at home in CO and just didn't want to make the drive, waited too long to start the long trip across Kansas, so decided to skip the meeting. He figured Weis would eat up his excuses like Gill did. Weis didn't want to be strung along for another year and could see it starting all over again.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 7 months ago

Anyone else read this and think "spoiled little rich kid"

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clarkentsman 2 years, 7 months ago

Does this answer your question?

Median Household Income

Highlands Ranch: $109,700 Colorado: $55,430

city-data.com

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jackpot 2 years, 7 months ago

Talk about two face. Glad to take someone from other schools, but you can't have "our" guys. Show some class KU let him leave if he wants to. Why keep fighting someone that may not want to stay?

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matlockhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

I might speculate that there could be NCAA issues at play here? There is not an obvious reason to keep him (lots of them not to keep him), so it must be something legal that is not being made public. Anyone who has followed this at all knows that he has not been straight forward. There have been issues from day one.

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kuhawkster 2 years, 7 months ago

Wow, way to over simplify it. I am 100% positive that if Brock would act like an adult and take care of his responsibilities, he would be realeased. Yet, we see press releases from a lawyer in Colorado, and hear about him finding out about being dismissed after coming out of a movie in Colorado... Look, there is a way to handle your business and a way not to handle your business. The previous coaching staff let him get away with doing anything he wanted. This one isn't. Again, I am pretty sure that if Brock came back to KU and had face to face meetings with the Head Coach and the AD things would be different. Kid has to learn some time, I guess his family isn't teaching him these lessons.

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Steve Brown 2 years, 7 months ago

the kids we accepted "took" were in good standing.

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TenaciousD 2 years, 7 months ago

Is Zenger acting alone without Wise knowing about this situation? That letter from the assistant AD and Zenger doesn't seem like something Wise would support. It would be extremely hypocritical for Wise to make that statement and not give Berglund his release.

Wise better give him his release ASAP or suffer the media consequences. KU's lawyers won't state their position publicly like Berglunds lawyer will. So the story will continue to be one-sided and destroy Wise's honeymoon.

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actorman 2 years, 7 months ago

Since he's the head football coach you might want to make the effort to learn the guy's name. It's Weis, not Wise.

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orbiter 2 years, 7 months ago

hmmm, trying to get back at the school that publicly dismissed him?

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texashawk10 2 years, 7 months ago

"Due to the scheduled appeal hearing, and because his attendance may have subjected him, pursuant to strict NCAA requirements, to complete an additional academic semester at KU, Berglund did not attend a mandatory team meeting last Sunday, but informed KU in advance of the meeting that he would not be in attendance."

So if he's forced to stay at KU an extra semester because of NCAA rules, then I don't think he has much of a choice but to wait until the summer to find another school.

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BigBlue4KU 2 years, 7 months ago

So far, Weis seems to be an upfront, stand-up guy. The three transferring kids all seem like good guys as well. The only person that has questionable ethics is Berglund. I am willing to trust the athletic department on this. There is obviously more going on than meets the eye. One thing about this kid, he sure as heck will be pro at hiring lawyers by the time he gets to college. While I agree that we should get as far away from him as possible, perhaps that isn't as easy as his lawyer makes it sound.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

Nonsense. Let's give him his release and be done with him. As long as his appeal remains pending, it will be an unnecessary distraction to the task at hand, which is building a winning football program.

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BigBlue4KU 2 years, 7 months ago

Definitely NOT "Nonsense". Legal issues involving kids that have legal problems have sunk many a ship. If there are lingering issues surrounding this very troubled young man, we should not let him go until he has appropriately crossed every t and dotted every i. To do anything less is "Nonsense" and will result in folks like you throwing stones at the administration for not "doing their jobs".

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

If there are legal issues involved, then KU needs to explicitly articulate them publicly. In the absence of a reasonable explanation, KU looks like a bunch of vindictive jackasses.

You're just speculating on the existence or non-existence of legal issues. Speculation is for fools. I want facts.

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BigBlue4KU 2 years, 7 months ago

Who are you, Berglund's attorney? You don't get any facts. You want facts, go read the encyclopedia (better yet, maybe the dictionary; where you could find a more appropriate handle, like, say, Recalcitrant). Be careful who you call a fool, you are really quite speculative yourself.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

Humor me. What facts are you talking about

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texashawk10 2 years, 7 months ago

How often are people, universities, companies, etc. allowed to talk about pending legal matters in any detail which is what this sounds like right now.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

It is both in bad taste and foolish to talk about legally specific facts during a pending legal matter. However, sound ethics and decorum do not prohibit a general recitation of the applicable law. In this regard, KU has remained silent, to their detriment.

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matlockhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

Like austin5string said; it seems that everytime his name was mentioned, there was something about legal problems in Colorado. It was always either he left campus or couldn't be here or went home or something vague. I don't remember ever hearing anything about him getting his problems solved or being with the team or anything positive that sounded like he even wanted to be in Lawrence. So................all of that being said, why is he still around. Trying to scam cash from KU?...Getting his name out there again?....What is the point? The other unanswered question is......Why would KU care if he leaves? IS it a money issue? I guess time will tell.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 7 months ago

There could be a money issue? A full ride is enough to rent and apartment, buy food and other necessities, and still have about $400/month - as I recall from a 2008 article with RussRob. It could also be things like making successful academic progress or the school is penalized. I could be filling out forms, and doing it correctly, or the school is penailzed. There are a litany of requirements that a student athlete needs to fulfill. A comment at www.rockchalktalk.com mentioned a radio interview in KC where they asked a bunch of questions like Did KU give you xxxxxxxx forms to fill out? The response was true brockian at it's best. Something like, I'm not exactly sure. Dr. Z has been the picture of decorum, and brock has been anything but, though he has been respectful of late - it serves his purpose to be. Definitely need to hear the whole truth, and not just the one sided twist.

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actorman 2 years, 7 months ago

Those are good points, dagger. After reading your post, I can see how it might be better for KU to wait until everything has been done properly before giving the release. I guess I should have read more before I entered my earlier post in which I asked how it would hurt KU to release him now.

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Ron Prichard 2 years, 7 months ago

Matt, as someone with more knowledge about the goings on with KU football than most of the rest of us, what are your thoughts on why KU has not issued Berglund a release? It seems to me there must be more to this than what has been publicly released so far, but right now, KU sure looks hypocritical. Unless I hear something shocking that hasn't been released, I would just as soon they take the high road and let him go and move forward with players that want to be here.

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Yakihawk 2 years, 7 months ago

If Brock's not careful, he's going to end up like Uncle Rico.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 7 months ago

It's only January, but this is the post of the year!

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homechanger 2 years, 7 months ago

"how much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains? Yeah. "

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Kevin Long 2 years, 7 months ago

Lol! That's a good one Yakihawk! That was a sweet van!

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Sparko 2 years, 7 months ago

Obviously a lot of issues here. He was a scholarship athlete who never showed. There is a hidden legal reason to keep him. Could be fraud, failure to uphold contractural obligations, an unresolved suit--who knows? But he has been an absolute waste of resources. The school had to want to cut its losses, so we will see the true cause.

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BPSkelly 2 years, 7 months ago

I think they should let him go. That whole thing has essentially been a debacle. My guess is the legal issues are part of the secrecy of the whole thing, but my guess as well is simply that he's not going to start (or maybe even play) so he wants to bolt.

Weather its fair or legit or not is irrelevant. KU looks petty right now, and until more information comes out shining a different light on it, thats how it will look.

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Lee Eldridge 2 years, 7 months ago

I've got an idea! Let's jump to a bunch of conclusions after only hearing Berglund's side of the story!

Somewhere, KU has their reasons for going through this process. This story was a little confusing on the chronology. Sounds like KU initially refused to cut him loose (possibly with hopes of salvaging the relationship?), and then he no-showed for the meeting. Then he was kicked off the team. I bet he ends up with his release fairly soon.

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kevinw2434 2 years, 7 months ago

LET HIM GO! Just move on. No reason to drag this out. Time to move on!

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Mo Mosallaei 2 years, 7 months ago

Darian Miller tweeted earlier today that he is having trouble getting released from his KU scholarship as well.

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DevilHawk 2 years, 7 months ago

There was no reason to send out a press release about this.

This is more about the difference between a player committing to a school and a player committing to a coach. I also doubt that this would be happening had he been with the team during the entire year.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

However, the reality is that many players commit because of the coach.

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coachfernandez 2 years, 7 months ago

Play hard ball. Glad Charlie & KU is. The kid failed his obligation from Day 1, don't give him a free walk away card.

I also remember this site and was it Keegan maybe getting pounded for his pre-season write-up on the kid. Give him a chance, etc. Seems it came true.

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ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 7 months ago

No problem Brock. Just reimburse the $20,000 worth of education you got and we will gladly sign your form.

And someone tell this lawyer that Crist graduated, McCary is on a hardship wavier, so only BYU released a player.

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Mike Ardis 2 years, 7 months ago

Did KU ask TG to return his salary? No KU gave TG $6 mill to go away, yet KU wants to be a jerk to Brock and not let him go away while basically promoting itself as a specialty transfer haven...I thought TG should have gotten rid of BB last year but its time to cut KU's losses. Also not sure BB got $20,000 worth of education. How many "remote" classs/credit hours did he take last spring and this fall? $20,000 worth?

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Steve Reigle 2 years, 7 months ago

Oh, for crying out loud. Let the kid go. Give him a break. This is not a classy way to handle this situation. KU is better than this.

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Jim Baker 2 years, 7 months ago

Brock who? Maybe he will get his chance to start at Liberty one day (only God knows when) ??

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Alfred_W 2 years, 7 months ago

"Abrupt demotion"? At what point was this kid taking snaps as KU's starting QB?

Lame.

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slantrox 2 years, 7 months ago

Who cares if it is true. He is a prima dona from a prima dona breading ground of a school in a prima dona non-town in a prima dona state called Colorado!

He is not respected here and obviously his "legal issues" were way more severe than they should have been if he had just ruffed up a kid. He clearly had issues.

Either this is a big mistake on KU's part, or someone is finally setting the kid straight!

ps. I'm from Denver, CU wasn't broken-hearted when he broke his commitment to them!

Having said all that, let him go so he can be a pain in somebody elses a$$

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haps 2 years, 7 months ago

Royal mistake by KU.

Either accept the kid's reasoning for missing the practice (sounds legit) or release him from his obligations. Do NOT like the fact that he found out he was released via twitter and now this. Perceptions are extremely important in recruiting and we need to do the bare minimum here to not kill ourselves publicly - not to mention it's the right thing to do. If there is a reason, legally, we can't release him then it should have been in the response.

Wish Brock was coming to KU, but if he's not, let him go somewhere else.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 7 months ago

If Brock had talk to his coach before or following the MANDATORY team meeting, I'm sure Coach would have explained to him what mandatory means, and what the consequences of missing such a meeting are. Instead, he called late enough that not only was he not able to contact Coach, he also had no chance of getting to KU on time - not even close. It was significant enough for Brock that he didn't bother to try to contact Coach Weis after the meeting or the next day either. Instead, he was just kicking back with his family.

Some truths are leaking out, tho team Brock isn't being upfront about it.

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lv_jhwk 2 years, 7 months ago

I need to remember to write my own press releases. I would have my attorney write them, but he's actually a good guy and I'm not sure he'd be entirely comfortable inserting a quote from himself written in the third person. He'd consider that a bit cheesy, to say the least.

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Todd Hill 2 years, 7 months ago

Give him his release to Butler.

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Todd Hill 2 years, 7 months ago

Ouch. I meant Liberty, so much for quick witted humor.

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canuckhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

My guess is that he has an obligation to the university that he has to fulfill in order to be granted a release. I would be amazed if he didn't know exactly what it would take to get a release and he is just trying to get out of not doing it.

No factual knowledge here. But given the circus that seems to follow the kid, it makes sense.

Also. What kind of credibility are we supposed to give the kid when he claims to have been fully committed to KU and he didn't even watch the presser.

To dos: - skip mandatory meeting (send out last minute email as excuse), CHECK - ignore opening presser, CHECK - go to a movie, CHECK - act indignent, CHECK - go back to court, CHECK

I fully support the university in sticking to its guns (or beaks).

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Randy Bombardier 2 years, 7 months ago

Maybe everything is not as it seems.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

I am amazed at how posters are jumping all over this story without all the fact in evidence. Let's face it, none of us have all the information needed to make an informed evaluation; at this time it is just WAGs. Because of the strict privacy laws, KU will likely not be able to release a lot of the information it used for its decision any time soon. or perhaps ever. If Berglund is interested in resolving this issue, he could give KU permission to release all the applicable information; I did not read anything along these line in his attorney's release, and I am going to guess that he has no interest in the information becoming public. There are NCAA regulation that govern transfers; if not properly followed or if the student-athlete is not in good standing, it could count against KU's graduating rates and possibly expose the school to penalties.

This is an excerpt from the NCAA web site:

"The NCAA developed the Graduation Success Rate to more accurately assess the academic success of student-athletes. The rate holds institutions accountable for transfer students, unlike the federal graduation rate. The GSR also accounts for midyear enrollees and is calculated for every sport.

Under the calculation, institutions are not penalized for outgoing transfer students who leave in good academic standing. The outgoing transfers are included in the receiving institution’s GSR cohort. By counting incoming transfer students and midyear enrollees, the GSR increases the total number of student-athletes tracked for graduation by 37 percent."


They say in Hollywood that "no publicity is bad publicity" and also "if they are running you out of town, make it look like a parade."

It looks like Berglund fits both cases.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

strict privacy laws

They ain't that strict. Witness the recent list and accompanying explanation regarding the ten former players who are no longer on the team.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

You just made my point. The release did not specify, other than in a generic manner for all players, why each individual player was released. BTW, your handle fits you to a tee.

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AirCapJay 2 years, 7 months ago

I think KU would be wise to give him a release and move on.

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Bob Forer 2 years, 7 months ago

Thanks for the link. Perception is reality, and in this case, the entire nation sees a black eye on the Jayhawk.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

Why? Because one blog writer, without all the facts, says so? I don't think so. Let's wait until all the facts are know and then comment on the merits of each position.

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haps 2 years, 7 months ago

If there's more to it, then KU needs to make that known. Fact is this is giving KU a black eye. One blogger is enough to get the word out. Don't think for a second other recruits don't see stuff like this. Perception is everything.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

Google FERPA. You will find out that once a student enrolls in college, he is the sole owner of his personal information. Parents do not have legal access to their student's grades, transcripts, or any information, even if they are paying all the student expenses. KU could not release the information to Berglund's parents without his permission. Releasing any information without his permission would result in a huge legal liability for KU. As you can see, it is not as simple as you think.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

Why would another recruit give a fart what KU's policy is on transferring players?

A recruit is not considering the circumstances of leaving a program because when he commits to a program, he does so thinking it's the right program for him to go for a full college career.

The possibility of transferring is probably the furthest thing from his mind.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

You can't possibly give that writeup any credence.

The writer didn't even place blame on the correct party. As the release from Berglund's lawyer states, it's the ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT that has refused the release, not Weis.

Clearly it's a writer who is not a fan of Charlie Weis.

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kureader 2 years, 7 months ago

As mentioned several times above, there are issues and circumstances that we're not privy to. Still, I don't like to see a dispute that immediately gets handled by some kid's attorney and through the media. Has this kid done anything this year without having an attorney involved?

As for KU's decision, this isn't just about Berlund. It's about KU's way of working with the four or five hundred student athletes each and every year when the subject of a transfer is considered. KU and all other schools try to establish a consistent way of doing things. At first glance, you'd think KU would just want to get rid of this kid. But, if you grant exceptions, the other side will try to take advantage. In fact, in this case Berglund's attorney begins his publicity release by comparing KU to other schools hoping to get KU to make an exception. Transfers routinely involve a year of "sitting out". It's normal. I'm not defending KU's decision, though you've gotta admit, we've given this kid plenty of chances to show up and participate. I"m just saying there's more to it than meets the eye, and KU's decisions don't all revolve around one kid. I'd be surprised if Weis actually made this decision. If so, he's certainly not making them now. Berglund called in legal artillary, KU will now do the same. What a waste.

I've always thought Berglund was treated harshly by LJW and by Keegan, in particular. I've changed my mind. Apologies to Keegan. I was wrong. You were right. Not only will the kid never play a down at KU, we're gonna be much better off without him. As far as I can recall, he's the highest maintenance kid NEVER to play a down at KU.

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Larry Smith 2 years, 7 months ago

"As far as I can recall, he's the highest maintenance kid NEVER to play a down at KU."

Even though its a different sport. I would give this award to Vincent Askew.

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Dirk Medema 2 years, 7 months ago

The award should be named after Askew, but Brock is clearly the most deserving recipient in a long time. Since Giles? Who was the QB?

Matt, How about an article about all the problem child athletes over the years?

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Jayhawker111 2 years, 7 months ago

In December, 2011, Berglund was informed by coach Ron Powlus that Crist, would start for the KU football team in 2012, and that Berglund was only competing for the backup quarterback position.

I can guarantee you that this is made up in Berglunds mind and was never said.

Weis has stated that every position on the team is wide open.

There is no guarantee for any player including Crist.

Berglund and his attorney are making this stuff up.

Timeline

  • Berglund commits to Colorado.
  • Colorado hires new coach Embree
  • Embree tells Berglund that he is not wanted at Colorado. • Berglund orally commits to KU - Dec 20, 2010 • Berglund first reports to KU campus. - Jan 19, 2011 • Berglund leaves KU after a week – unknown reasons. • Gill says Berglund won't participate in spring drills - Mar 2, 2011 • Spring practice begins without Berglund - Apr 1, 2011 • Berglund comes to Lawrence to observe practice - Apr 5, 2011 • Third-degree assault incident between Berglund and another male takes place in Douglas County, Colo - Apr 9, 2011 • Berglund in Lawrence for photo day - Jun 15, 2011 • Berglund arraigned in Colorado - Jun 24, 2011 • Berglund appears in court - Jul 25, 2011 • Preseason camp begins without Berglund - Aug 3, 2011 • Berglund has trial on assault charge – Jan 9 -10, 2012
  • Berglund fails to reprot to mandatory team meeting - Jan 15, 2012
  • KU dismissed Berglund for failure to report - Jan 16, 2012

I would not give Berglund an open transfer -- where he might be able to sign with a team that KU might play in the future. Berglund should pay back the $20,000 tuition for a free freshman year of education.

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Larry Smith 2 years, 7 months ago

This is the ugly side of college sports. Basketball and football players get screwed all the time, while coaches are free to come and go as they please. Obviously none of us have all of the facts. However, an argument could be made that the previous coaching staff promised this kid that he would have the opportunity to compete for a starting job and that is why he committed. The new regime made it abundantly clear that he has no shot at starting and that at best, he may be a back-up. Thus, he wants to try someplace where he has a chance. Personally, I could care less if he were to stay or leave. However, if I were a kid, I would want to be at a school where I could compete for a starting job. Since Heaps is not eligible, and the staff does not know what they really have for QB's who may fit their system, they want BB to be the back up plan and they are pissed he would rather try his luck elsewhere. Anyone who thinks Crist was brought in to be anything other than the starter is crazy. People call them student athletes all or the time, but they should really be called athletic revenue generators. This is all about big business. Release the kid and move on. No one here will be able to convince me that 1 kid is going to have that big of an effect on our GSR. Let the kid go and move on.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

As somebody else posted there has to be more to the story i.e. some NCAA policy that is being considered so as not to violate a rule because....if I'm understanding correctly: 1. He was given notice of a demotion. 2. He filed a letter requesting only "communication" with other schools not a transfer. 3. Zenger denied a request to "transfer" which wasn't what the Berglund's request was for.
4. He has been dismissed from the team for what is believed to be for not attending a mandatory meeting and still has to wait for the appeals board to grant his request only to "communicate" with other schools not transfer.

Taken at face value based on this information, this young man is getting screwed and KU is not acting judiciously.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

Why even post this?

How can you possibly accept an account written by ONE SIDE of the issue "at face value"?

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

That's why I precluded the facts in the comment by saying there must be some policy, statute, or precedent that enforces this kind of decision that hasn't been explained. Based on the facts listed in this story and taken at face value the decision to deny the young man's request is inconsistent with the decisions made by other schools that have granted releases to communicate with other schools regardless of whether or not they had even stepped onto the field. This decision makes no sense from a precedent or Public relations point of view. The fact he is that he isn't happy, and he wants to go somewhere else. Then let him. This is America, not North Korea. Let him sink his own boat somewhere else, not at KU and drag the team and the school's image down with him.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

Again, this isn't a "story". It's a press release written from the perspective of the party who is claiming to have been wronged.

Show me an example of ONE other recruit who came to a school, didn't even compete or participate with the team, asked for release, and had it granted.

This situation is not comparable to normal transfer situations. In fact, one only has to look back at KU's own history regarding players wanting to transfer out of the program to deduce that all the facts are not available to the public.

Which sounds more reasonable to you: KU is picking on this particular kid for no reason, or the attorney's statement above isn't telling the entire truth?

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

Again, he wasn't granted a release to transfer. According to the press release, he simply wanted to begin communicating with other schools. Zenger denied a transfer which isn't what the original request was for. Which sounds more reasonable to you, expending effort, time and money, possible legal fees on a botched denial that didn't even address the original request and binding the kid to an institution that he doesn't want to be at after being dismissed from the football team or cutting out the cancer before it spreads. Get rid of him.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

You are clearly incapable of understanding my point. Nothing you read in this release can be trusted as an objective account of what ACTUALLY happened.

It's like talking to a wall. Only noisier.

Get rid of yourself.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

Yikes no need to get personal there, Sparky. I get what your saying but... It doesn't matter if the release can be trusted or not. The bottom line is that the kid wants out so let him out. Unless as I mentioned before there's some red tape that KU has to follow before granting the release. If that's the case then KU needs to comply to NCAA rules. But, simply not granting the release to prove a point and "teach him a lesson" is ridiculous.

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DevilHawk 2 years, 7 months ago

The press release is a persuasive piece - similar to a brief submitted to a court by one party to a lawsuit - and should not be accepted at face-value.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

Good point. All the more reason why I HOPE there's more to the story and KU has a good rebuttal because if the press release is true it doesn't sound good.

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dynamitehawk 2 years, 7 months ago

What was Berglund's GPA? How many credits did he attempt?

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aviebs51 2 years, 7 months ago

I thought that I had heard somewhere that Berglund had already started talking to other programs about transferring and thus Weis found out and kicked him off the team. This (if true) would be the reason that they won't release him for imediate transfer. If you do this while your still the member of KU they aren't going to do you any favors. Not sure if this is true. But only what I thought I had heard.....Matt have you heard anything about this?

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Dyrk Dugan 2 years, 7 months ago

He hasn't been on our campus. He has NEVER been on campus. and yet he's taking a scholarship for a full year.

this is totally within KU's right and domain....he has not been committed to the program...why should we grant him a release?

this is a good lesson for young Berglund. complete a semester of school, and then we'll give you your release. actually commit to something......and then you'll learn what a real relationship is.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

He hasn't been on our campus. He has NEVER been on campus. and yet he's taking a scholarship for a full year. All the more reason to cut him loose. Get rid of the cancer before it spreads.

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rob4lb 2 years, 7 months ago

On the surface this seems a little heavy handed. Admittedly, I don't know all of the ramifications of not releasing Berglund. I would think that if he transfers, he will have to sit out year before playing. If KU is afraid of playing against him in the future, I would think they could give him a conditional release. Doesn't not releasing Berglund hold up a scholarship for someone who might play?

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

After reading more on the subject, I expect he'll get his release at the next hearing because he has been dismissed since receiving the denial letter. The problem with this story is that there aren't enough dates to verify when each event took place. I'm assuming that permission to contact other schools wasn't granted because he technically WAS still on the team at the time. Without having visited with coach Weis, it may have been assumed that he should still be committed to the team and fulfill that commitment based on the fact he is receiving a scholarship. Unfortunately because the Zenger didn't release statutes that explain the denial this is painting KU in a bad light and some media outlets are blaming Weis even though this story says Zenger pulled the trigger on the decision. Damage control, Damage control and grant the transfer ASAP.

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STL_Jayhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

Who cares what the previous coaching staff promised this kid. Berglund wasn't fulfilling his end of the agreement to the previous coaching staff. If he had been, KU would likely have granted his request just like it will to any of the other players that have been released. But Berglund was a spoiled brat that took a scholarship and then didn't even attend classes in Lawrence. If he had been on campus instead of back home in April, maybe he wouldn't have been in a fight. His legal troubles started in April. That doesn't explain why he wasn't in school between January and April. Of course his lawyer didn't approach his client's lack of character or breach of contract. Berglund is the only pour soul I know that can punch a guy at a bar, have to appear in court twice over a summer, and then wouldn't be able to play football in the Fall because of his "legal troubles." Man, I hope he doesn't jaywalk anytime soon. That might prevent him from having the motivation to find a job for the next 10 years.

Comparing Berglund and his situation to the three recruits coming to KU? Really? I'm pretty sure that if any school is satisfied with the athletes attempt to be successful at their school, that goes a long way towards granting them a release when things don't work out. But if the athlete just takes up a scholarship and put all his effort into making excuses for his absence, the school does't want him back, but doesn't feel compelled to make it easy for him to play somewhere else.

That is not being vindictive. Schools are designed to teach young people how to handle responsibilities. The lesson for Berglund is that there are thousands of kids out there that would have accepted that scholarship and done everything they could to help the team and earn that free education. If Berglund wants a release, let him pay back the school for a year's tuition and room & board so that another kid can use it next year..

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

It's a PR nightmare. It's getting bad press all over the nation and making KU look like a bunch of Nazis. This is America, not North Korea. He's been dismissed from the team, break his scholly, let him go, and life goes on. This whole ordeal was completely unnecessary.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

It's been said ad nauseum, but just a few points surrounding the whole "we don't have the whole story" angle:

1) It's a press release written by a LAWYER who is being paid by one side of a two-party disagreement.

2) Berglund was on scholarship for a year. As far as I know, he was attending classes, or he wouldn't have even been eligible to compete in the first place. If he wasn't attending classes, then he wouldn't be eligible to play at whatever school he did transfer to. Pretty sure the way a scholarship works is to provide a free education in exchange for something. I don't know if Berglund ever really did anything to hold up his end of the bargain. He certainly didn't do any of the things he was reportedly expected to do (like reporting last spring).

3) Let's not compare Berglund to other transfers. MOST other transfers at least spend some time at the school of their initial choosing trying before attempting to move on. Berglund decided to transfer without putting forth any noticeable effort. That lack of effort plays into my next point...

4) Establishing precedent. Some people have mentioned the fear of other recruits' perception, but imho that's the wrong angle to worry about. KU does need to worry about sending the wrong message, but I would imagine that the AD is more worried about sending messages to potential incoming recruits than he is about sending messages to potential outgoing transfers. The simple truth is that an incoming recruit isn't thinking about the circumstances of a potential transfer down the road. If a recruit is considering a school's transfer policy when he comes in, then he probably isn't terribly committed to playing at that school. On the other hand, KU doesn't want to take any action that tells current athletes that the smallest hardship or displeasure is an acceptable grounds for leaving the program. As alluded to in #3, Berglund didn't even TRY. KU can't just let him go and make it seem like getting a release is no big deal.

5) Lastly, lee_go_hawks mentioned the timeline, and that got me thinking about another concern. Supposedly, KU refused to grant the release, then Berglund missed the mandatory meeting. Given this kid's history, it's not terribly far-fetched that he hatched a plan to get the release he had been denied by getting kicked off the team. Then KU would have no reason to keep him, right? Well, unless Zenger and the athletic department have seen a thing or two in their time and aren't going to let some 19-year-old kid manipulate the system to his advantage.

I'd say, given Zenger's recent history of issues that were much more sensitive than this one, that KU is handling this just about the best way it could be handled. If I were making the decision, I'd make Berglund do what a normal transfer is required to do and sit out a full year. KU has no power to prevent that.

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Hammertoe 2 years, 7 months ago

The negative publicity after this story is picked up in other media outlets is worth granting him release.

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DevilHawk 2 years, 7 months ago

It's negative publicity until you realize that it also shows Zenger's commitment to the football program.

Remember: the entire purpose of releasing the 'press release' was to generate spin and sympathy for Berglund and, on the other hand, bad press and public pressure against KU.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

If it looks and smells like a rose, it's a rose. It's bad pub regardless of intents and purposes. Get rid of the cancer before it spreads.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

Yes, because KU should make decisions based on "bad pub", regardless of the actual facts.

Berglund is trying to COERCE the University into letting him go. Don't you think there is some value in not cowtowing to a 19-year-old kid?

He's been kicked off the football team. There is no danger of "contamination", because he officially no longer has anything to do with the football team. He gave up that opportunity thinking it would trick KU into letting him go.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

Not on the football team, yes, but hasn't been granted a release from the University, hence the cancer is still there. But, nevertheless I can see yours and other's points. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one-meaning Tait and myself. According to his chat: "I do know this, universities that don't grant releases to guys quickly get a reputation that's not favorable and that can hurt recruiting. I wouldn't imagine KU wants that to happen right now, especially with all the momentum surrounding football and the rebuilding project that's ahead." As I mentioned before-cut out the cancer before it spreads.

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Ryan Sullivan 2 years, 7 months ago

"... arbitrary and capricious..."

I swear to God that's a Kramer line from a Seinfeld episode! Based soley on that, he should be granted a release because his lawyer is AWESOME. I'd like to hear more from his lawyer to see what other comedic movie and TV quotes the guy can drop. That made my day, nay week, possibly month.

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RonnieNick 2 years, 7 months ago

Hey Doofus: "arbitrary and capricious" is legal code word for how one challenges any state agency (like a university) in a court of law on the grounds that the decision violated due process - so the point the lawyer is making is this is illegal and a lawsuit is coming on the basis that KU acted in an 'arbitrary and capricious' manner in violation of law. One word for you "Google". The matter is over your head....

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jhawkrulz 2 years, 7 months ago

I wonder how long it took BB to find a lawyer...oh wait he has had one on retainer for a year.

Also, I believe there might be some issues, because he actually took the scholarship for Spring of 2011, but ended up dropping out. Said for personal reasons but Alph pointed out a young soccer player.

He than took online courses this last semester (not coming to school). I believe there are some issues because he has to fulfill the second semester of his school or pay back his tuition. I think that is the NCAA rules. I think the kid needs to talk to the university and figure it out, taking this to the court is probably not his best course of action, but as noted above this kid hasn't been well known for his decision making abilities.

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milehighhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

He is enrolled in classes for the spring semester.

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

I think it's funny that Berglund is playing up the "I found out I was dismissed on Twitter!" angle.

Pretty sure that, if you choose to skip a "mandatory" meeting, you are basically deciding that you would like to be dismissed from the team. I have a feeling that Weis wanted to keep Berglund around, but realized that the kid wasn't interested when he didn't show up to the meeting.

If Berglund can't attend a meeting that is declared to be mandatory for team members, why in the heck would he expect to remain a team member?

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

One last thing I noticed, then it's off to bed. The press release states the following things:

"Due to the scheduled appeal hearing, and because his attendance may have subjected him, pursuant to strict NCAA requirements, to complete an additional academic semester at KU, Berglund did not attend a mandatory team meeting last Sunday"

"Berglund was dismissed from the team by KU and Weis on Monday, reportedly for failing to attend the Sunday meeting"

"Berglund learned about his dismissal...via Twitter and internet media outlets, which reported that during Weis' press conference he personally introduced his new high-profile quarterback transfers and announced certain "dismissals" from the team -- including Berglund."

"KU scheduled Berglund's SAAB appeal hearing after Weis' press conference"

So if you're following along at home...

1) Berglund didn't attend the meeting on Sunday, 1/15, supposedly because of the scheduled appeal hearing and fears that he might be locked into staying at KU by NCAA rules.

2) Berglund was then dismissed from the team on Monday, 1/16, the date of the press conference.

3) KU scheduled the appeal hearing after the press conference (meaning 1/17 or if the same day as the press conference, 1/16)

4) That means Berglund decided (on or before 1/15) to skip the mandatory meeting because of a hearing that would not be scheduled for 1-2 more days.

This is all information from HIS OWN PRESS RELEASE. So the fact that it's not correct only adds the impression that this guy is a lying, excuse-making POS.

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Larry Smith 2 years, 7 months ago

Your comprehension isn't really working

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Sam Constance 2 years, 7 months ago

I give this comment about as much credence as the amount of supporting information it contains.

None.

Now, if you care to explain where you think I've misunderstood something, I'd be happy to listen.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

I hold judgement until the facts come out in the appeals process. But if it is true that he requested permission from the university in December to talk to other schools, it should have been granted and if he intended to transfer it should have been granted.

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danmoore 2 years, 7 months ago

Big university vs. 19 year old. Can't see how anything good will come of this. Release him before it becomes a big pr nightmare.

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Ben Kliewer 2 years, 7 months ago

I've read several documents and releases drawn up by Lawyers and this one reads like it was written by a teenager. Maybe a teenager who's going to major in writing, but a teenager nonetheless. Not impressed with his writing skills.

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DevilHawk 2 years, 7 months ago

Possibly, but there are a few more likely possibilities, namely: Paralegal - without much experience; Intern/Extern - a/k/a a current law student; or * First or second year associate - a/k/a an inexperienced attorney.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

From the article in the Denver Post: "But Berglund had asked for permission to contact coaches at other colleges to ensure returning to Kansas was the right decision for him."

Let me ask the following question: how long would you last at your job, if you ask your supervisor permission to talk to other employers to see if you can get a better deal while keeping you current job as a backup in case you do not get any offers?

My guess is you get fired on the spot.

Berglund strikes me as an arrogant, immature, diva-wanna be, with a sense of entitlement and, who expects things to be handed to him without any hard work or effort on his part. Now, he is using the media to force KU to play his game; KU should do what is right for KU and not play the spoiled brat's game.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

I've mentioned to my supervisor that I'm submitting apps to find a higher paying job and pursue a life-long dream. He's looking out for himself the same way Eli Manning did when the Chargers selected him in the first round and said he wouldn't play for them. I bet he doesn't regret that move.

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STL_Jayhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

Please don't compare Eli Manning to a whining brat like Berglund. That is really an insult to the Manning family and there thousands of fans. Eli works his butt off to improve his game, leads by example, and doesn't point the finger at others when his team doesn't play up to his expectations..

And yes, its perfectly OK to tell your boss at McDonald's that you are trying to get a job that pays more and is more in line with your career goals. But the more your current employer is paying you, the riskier that move becomes.

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kranny 2 years, 7 months ago

Not comparing the character of the men, only comparing the situation. If one man is able to take advantage of a similar situation then why can't another. This is America not North Korea. In regards to my current employer, you're not even close Sparky. Remember, assuming makes A$$es out U and me.

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Bryan Anderson 2 years, 7 months ago

Notice that the lawyer only released a small excerpt from KU's letter.

My assumption is that KU has a perfectly legit reason for not granting a release, and are bound by some confidentiality issues not to talk about it. The lawyer writes a press release to make the university look bad, and try to strong arm them into granting a release. I'm sure the truth will come out soon.

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Jean Robart 2 years, 7 months ago

We don't want him, but nobody else can have him. Sounds like KU is being vindictive for some reason.

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Steve Corder 2 years, 7 months ago

Matt, tell everybody the technical side of what a Release is.

This kid is FREE to go anywhere he wants!

My best guess is he has precious little time to find another program and enroll in school for spring.

A release would allow him & parents to "shop" him to others so he'll be "wanted" by another program.....scholarship $and all.

I wouldn't grant this kid an after thought much less his shopping release.

A mature adult would have walked into the coach's office after attending the mandatory meeting and ask for a release. But this kid has not done much of anything at KU. Good luck Brock, don't forget to take you're resume.

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Yolanda Gay 2 years, 7 months ago

Did Berglund benefit from the year's scholarship? If he didn't attend class and pretty much stayed at Colorado, then I say good riddance to bad rubbage.

But if Brock got anything free (i.e. place to stay, free medical, legal, etc) and didn't go to class, then I say make him pay it back then release him. There are expectations from the athlete that goes along with a scholarship. If Brock didn' t live up to his end, then he is at fault.

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Phoggin_Loud 2 years, 7 months ago

From Matt Tait's article on Tuesday, January 17th:

"KU officials said Berglund sent an email to several people in the KU athletic department at 3:08 p.m. Sunday. In the email, officials said Berglund requested his transfer release and informed them that he would not be at a mandatory 5 p.m. Sunday team meeting."

So, is he really requesting a release because he was dismissed for missing the meeting? Sounds like he requested a release before the meeting.

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JayHawkFanToo 2 years, 7 months ago

You are comparing apples with oranges.

Berglund sending an e-mail shortly before the start of a mandatory meeting indicating that he would not attend, is not the same thing as requesting (ahead of time) permission to not attend the meeting.

In the real world, when your boss tells you to attend a mandatory meeting, you would not send him an e-mail shortly before the start of said meeting (except for an emergency) telling him you are not attending. In the real world you would place a phone call ahead of time, explain the reason why you cannot attend a scheduled meeting and request permission to be excused.

Berglund is counting on KU not wanting bad publicity to get out of an agreement in which only KU fulfilled the terms. I believe it is called blackmail.

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Phoggin_Loud 2 years, 7 months ago

I am not defending Berglund. There has to be a good reason that his request was denied that is not being released to the media.
It looks bad for KU now, but we have only heard Berglund's side of the story. KU's side will come out soon enough.

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kugrad93 2 years, 7 months ago

Regardless of KU's motives, they need to let him go. This is generating bad press on a national level. He's not worth the trouble. Grant him his release on the condition that he transfer outside the conference (including TCU and WVU). Don't waste any more time on this brat.

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Phoggin_Loud 2 years, 7 months ago

While we're at it:

FREE WEST VIRGINIA!!!

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april28 2 years, 7 months ago

The kid collected a semester's worth of free aid from KU. I have no problem making him work for his release - we'll let him go eventually but I'm sure most D-1 programs will run, not walk away from him.

I believe that Charlie is sending a message to other players, if you don't do what you say you are going to do, then there will be consequences. The fact that this kid went public and legal immediately tells you that there is more to the story.

I'm guessing that he assumed KU would cave under pressure. Now, let's see what happens when it goes to appeal. Radio-heads implied it would be an automatic approval by the appeals board. Not so fast, as Lee Corso would say. Typically, students are much tougher judges than adults when it comes to these sorts of things.

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troutsee 2 years, 7 months ago

A case of a spoiled, pampered, immature individual who has jerked KU football around for a year, who was never committed to playing for KU (not really), and who is now getting his leash jerked a little by the school that he has been taking advantage of. Waaa! Waaa! We will end up releasing him but I'll bet he never plays college football on any level. His heart is not in it. I do not feel sorry for him and I do not think Zenger is tarnishing the image of the University. This whole incident is nothing but the tiniest of ripples in world news and will fade rapidly without doing any harm to KU's reputation.

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april28 2 years, 7 months ago

What's really unbelievable is that this guy was only a 3-star prospect in the first place. Why did TG think that this kid was going to be the savior?

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wakeupcall 2 years, 7 months ago

Interesting article, Matt. Didn't the same thing just happen to WBB player Keena Mays? And it is my understanding that The Mays Family tried repeatedly to speak with Dr. Zenger about their circumstances and Dr. Zenger (or his representative) repeatedly declined the offer to meet with them to discuss the matter. Bottomline if a player does not want to be here - do the honorable thing and let them go especially since other schools extended the courtesy to KU.

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Jayhawker111 2 years, 7 months ago

Brock Berglund assault trial was rescheduled from Jan 9 - 10, 2012 to this April, according to a spokeswoman with the Douglas County 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Colorado Office.

This assault trial will be conducted right in the middle of KU spring football practices.

Berglund missed last year with his assault legal problems and he would have been gone again this year from Spring practices.

Berglund legal problems are a reality and are not going away.

Any school that he transfers to will have to deal with him missing practices for Court!

Very hard to compete for the Qb job when you are having to defend yourself in court.

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Tony Bandle 2 years, 7 months ago

This appears to be a case of Kansas walking on a legal tightrope while crossing the NCAA minefields. One false step and KABOOM.

I am sure Mr. Berglund will never take a snap for the Crimson and Blue but only after all t's are crossed and i's are dotted.

The only question is, can you be defined as a "bust" if you have not even played a single down?

We may have to invent a new category, something like a 'NW" [never was].

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ejlumus 2 years, 7 months ago

Right or wrong ... who cares?

PR nightmare!

Cut bait .... give the a$$hole the release ASAP!!!!

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Steve Corder 2 years, 7 months ago

So, the moral of the situation is: Be a "a$$hole" and then you'll get want you want the way you want it?

The bait has been cut. what more do you'd really care about?

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Steve Brown 2 years, 7 months ago

seems simple to me.

  1. let all TG players know they may transfer if: currently in good standing. have passed all drug tests. up to date in school and on track for class assignments. has a 2.0 GPA has attended or been previously excused from all team meetings. Looks at least one coach in the eye and request the release.

has a coach of the school you want to attend call the AD dept. and speak to us. I suspect HCCW or TimmieG called and spoke with Stoops, etc.

give him a release after he gets caught up or after spring ball. Sure the 'transfer' rules have been communicated to the squad, as HCCW said in 1st presser some will want to leave us and that is fine.....so some procedure exists. This bum didn't follow it, so I vote no release, screw the publicity.

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april28 2 years, 7 months ago

These are really good ideas.

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Steve Corder 2 years, 7 months ago

NCAA Bylaws 13.1.1.3 regarding Contactable Individuals basically states that the individual must be granted written permission by the athletic dept. so the individual can contact/discuss transferring with another school. There is a specific form that is required to be completed by the individual before a release can be considered.

13.1.1.3.1 Hearing Opportunity states that if denial is made then the individual has 15 business days to file for a hearing by an entity outside the athletic dept to hear the request.

Brock is free to go to any school and go out for the football team as a walk-on and play his way to a scholarship.

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John Randall 2 years, 7 months ago

Could we all pay a little more attention to the difference between "issuing a statement" and "making a release"?

The statement on Burgturd's behalf is in no way, shape or form a "release". It is a compilation of partial quotes and half truths "issued" for obfuscatory reasons by a spin doctor who uses the title 'lawyer.' Nothing in it should be assumed factual or even credible.

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milehighhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

I get your point but don't think you understand what a press release is.

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John Randall 2 years, 7 months ago

When the subject of the 'release' is the 'release' (or not) of Berlund from responsibilities he has failed to meet, there is a good deal of need for semantic clarification, nicht wahr?

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Dan Pawlowski 2 years, 7 months ago

Welcome to the real world kid. There are consequences when you don't hold up your end of the contract.

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Dan Pawlowski 2 years, 7 months ago

But since you have a lawyer something tells me you already determined you welched and you could use a lawyer.

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John Randall 2 years, 7 months ago

For some reason, CJonline didn't allow this post . . .

Zenger and Berglund By KU62 | 01/21/12 - 10:23 am are not the only involved parties. Not only has BB failed to meet his responsibilities to KU (one practice and picture day instead of months of hard work), but has fallen far short of NCAA requirements for student athletes, both in athletics and in academics. In particular, his academic performance has put KU in line for sanctions regarding the progress toward graduation regulations of the conference and the NCAA.

KUAD is merely minimizing the damage by handling his departure according to the book. The hue and cry to "just cut our losses and get rid of him" completely ignore the fact that penalties on the school - for coddling his irresponsibe (lack of) participation in both the s.t.u.d.e.n.t and the a.t.h.l.e.t.e categories - must also be considered. Apparently, Brock has yet to acquire ANY academic credits during two semesters and a summer of sporadic attendance, and certainly falls short of the 'good standing' required of transfers by the NCAA.

BTW, this is only one of several instances of Turner Gill putting his nice-guy-image above his responsibility to run the football program in accordance with athletic department standards, regardless of ineptitude on the field. If Sheahon Zenger is really the hard @$$ some are suggesting, we may soon see some reconsideration of the 'exit fee' for Gill's departure, as more instances keep seeping through the confidentiality quagmire.

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kubiggestfan 2 years, 7 months ago

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't scholarships renewable from year to year? If so, why would he be bound to KU after this year?

LET ME GET THIS RIGHT....Coaches can let players go, but players cannot go at their own free will.....Someone needs to re-write the NCAA Bylaws if this is the case. If a kid does not want to be there, then they should be able to leave after their commitment is over. This guy never even played one snap, so what value is he to KU? Coaches do it all the time, and get paid a hell of a lot to do it. Don't be surprised if the other conferences begin to only release players with the intent that they cannot go to KU, or the Big12.

I really don't think this is a case of rich/spoiled kid, it is about principles and doing what is right and wrong for the sake of the kids and players. COLLEGE ATHLETICS IS SO OVERRATED IN MY BOOK....Let these kids be free to make decisions and often when they don't pan out as hoped, let them be free to move on...Keep him, and lose a scholarship that some other kid could use that really need or want to be there.

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bville_hawk 2 years, 7 months ago

"Correct me if I am wrong"
You're wrong.

"let me get this right" You didn't.

"I really don't think this is a case of rich/spoiled kid, it is about principles and doing what is right and wrong for the sake of the kids and players" Wrong again. Return to the dugout, that's 3 strikes, you're out.

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kubiggestfan 2 years, 7 months ago

No bville_hawk, you are wrong... Check your facts: Kid never played at KU...Never put on a uniform, but to take pictures (hardly constitues taking a snap or even being on the playing field). Yes, let me get this right: Kids should be free to leave if they so desire, don't you do it on your job if you are not satisfied or feeling a sense of accomplishment?...or do you have a job? So you go back to the dugout and count your strikes....IF A KID DOES NOT WANT TO BE THERE, WHO ARE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO BE HELD HOSTAGE?

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big12ku 2 years, 7 months ago

KUBIGGESTFAN, you're correct in that scholarships are renewed annually and are no longer 4 year guarantees as they have been in the past. Although, I read somewhere that the NCAA may be considering going back to 4 year guaranteed ones in the future.

Also, as it stands NCAA rules (NLI, NCAA Transfer Penalty) currently favor the institutions more than the student athletes and so I would agree with you that it is more difficult for students to leave a program on their own than by way of a coach releasing them. But as we have seen from this case even if dismissed by the coach, he or she still has a say in when and where they go next because this kid was not given a full release.

At this point, it really does not matter why this kid wants to leave. He did not make a positive impact on the program; he was informed that his minutes would be limited going forward; and he was dismissed from the team. Grant the release and move on.

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