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What's next for KU football's red-hot recruiting?

By now, I’m sure at least a few of you have checked the connection on your computers and stared down Twitter to make sure you didn’t miss another Kansas University football commitment.

You didn’t. It just may feel that way.

Beginning with an oral commitment from kicker Trevor Pardula on Sunday, Dec. 9, and ending with huge news of a pledge from four-star defensive end Chris Martin at tipoff of the KU men’s basketball game on Dec. 15, the KU program enjoyed one of the wildest and most successful recruiting weeks in recent memory.

In all, 10 players made oral commitments to the Jayhawks in the seven-day span, with nine of them coming from the junior college ranks and two coming from four-star prospects. Not counting the kicker, the haul included five defensive prospects and four offensive talents.

It’s early still, and it’s certainly a stretch to suggest that all of these junior college prospects (16 of 23 currently committed) will pan out, but it seems fair to say that anywhere from 5-10 members of the current class could become starters as soon as next season, with serious voids and inexperience in place at all four secondary spots and along the offensive and defensive lines.

If that’s true, then this haul, as is, would have to be deemed a success.

So who’s left for KU to target? Well, with 23 spots already spoken for and a maximum of four spots available — 24 and 3 if defensive tackle Ty McKinney is included as expected — the group is small and appears to have a very select list of names.

Here’s a quick look at a few of them:

• Devonte Danzey, 6-3, 285, OL, Hutchinson C.C.
Danzey, who seems to have narrowed his list down to Kansas, West Virginia, Auburn and Baylor is expected to pick a school by Christmas. Auburn has turned up the heat in the past couple of weeks and the Tampa native’s recent visit to Auburn blew him away.

• Matt Finnin, 6-8, 330, OL, College of DuPage.
Finnin is a monster of a man who has drawn serious interest from some big-time programs in recent weeks including Oklahoma, Nebraska, Marshall and Maryland. Finnin started his career at Western Michigan and since has been to three other schools while helping his father through a health issue. KU may be in good shape here, but after initially saying he would decide Friday, Finnin now appears to be headed toward waiting until January, when he'll take a couple of more visits and make a decision then.

• Hunter Jarmon, 6-0, 190, WR, Midway High (Waco, Texas).
The Jayhawks aren’t the clear-cut leader for Jarmon or anything like that, but he’s a name worth mentioning, particularly because of KU’s need at his position. He’s a two-sport star who also is interested in playing college baseball and has taken official visits to KU, Minnesota and Oregon State, which may be his leader. Texas Tech and Washington State also may be in the mix.

• Reeve Koehler, 6-3, 280, OL, Honolulu, Hawaii.
Koehler is another four-star prospect who would add serious clout to an already solid recruiting class. The high school standout who is ranked as the eighth best guard in the nation has an offer list that includes Arkansas, Arizona State, Cal, Georgia and Tennessee.

• Josiah St. John, 6-6, 305, OL, Trinity Valley C.C.
St. John is another big-time target who has offers from 13 BCS-conference schools, including five Big 12 programs. St. John, a three-star tackle who visited KU Dec. 7, is one of the most highly recruited juco linemen in the country.

Stay tuned... And try not to panic if too many days pass between commitments. Last week certainly was rare.

While you wait, here's a quick look at the ESPN Juco 100 list, which was released today and features KU commitment Marquel Combs in the No. 1 slot.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8743658/espn-junior-college-100

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Comments

Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

Tait,

Which of these guys do we have the best shot at, and why?

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Matt Tait 1 year, 7 months ago

Real good shots at all three linemen... Won't get all three, of course, but KU's way up on the list of all three.

I think KU gets Koehler and Finnin.

But any combination of them would be great for the program. St. John is ranked 6th on that list of the ESPN Juco 100.

Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out...

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

Any of these guys would be great, but If we somehow land St. John and Koehler, I will need serious medical attention. Oxygen, IVs, possibly defibrillation.

C'mon Combs! Keep the Dream Team rolling.

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

Don't sleep on Finnin. He has offers from OU and WVU and obviously great size at 6'8 330.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

That ESPN JUCO 100 List has Chris Martin as a 3-Star. Which is more accurate?

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

I think maybe the "wrong type of buzz" Keegan referred to, chased some schools off. He was a 5 star out of high school. #2 DE in the country.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

You concerned about that "wrong type of buzz?" Is this going to be a problem guy off the field?

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

Don't know. Like Matt mentions below. I think the watchful eye of Weis will help. Possibly combined with a leader who just went through a 3 game ban for a dumb off field mistake might be enough to keep him in line.

I sure hope so. He has the tools that makes the coaches drools.

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

Dreamius Smith sighting. #26 to West Virginia. See you on the field Dreamius.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

Combs. I hope he meets expectations.

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John Fitzgerald 1 year, 7 months ago

All I have to say is ... wow. Weis has and company have put together a pretty impressive recruting class so far. Although recruting is important, putting the players on the field and making them successful is a different story. I'll be a true believer at that point. Until then, I'm stoked for next year and happy to have Weis as our head coach! RCJH!!

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

May be beating a dead horse, but is anyone else concerned from an academic standpoint about getting these guys here and ready to rock for Spring?

Lest we forget the crucial benefit of an extra few months with Holsopple.

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

Where's that grit I keep hearing about? Stop worrying.

If Georgia, Oklahoma, OSU, Tennessee, Auburn, TAM, etc. aren't concerned, then I'm not concerned. We don't often have an opportunity to land guys with an ESPN grade of 86 and offers from those types of programs, for our OL. We'll (and that means you too) take what we can get.

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Matt Tait 1 year, 7 months ago

You're right on the money here... Weis takes academics seriously and would not recruit and/or let in a guy who is a high-risk. There may be a couple of low-risk guys coming, but it seems safe to say that Weis believes that low-risk guys become no-risk guys when they're in town and under his watchful eye.

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

A David Beatty recruit. Nice. Shades of Tony Pierson with the quick feet. A 4.34 40 is crazy. How do you know they will be dumping receivers?

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Michael Maris 1 year, 7 months ago

Weis and staff sure look to be addressing the defensive side of the ball this off-season.

Not to take anything away from the current roster of football players for Kansas. But, what are the possibilities of Bolton and Martin serving as Strongside and Weakside Defensive Ends? Having the new crop of DT's join the current roster of DT's is going to really allow some flexibility for the current roster of players. Defensive depth does not look to be as big of a problem in 2013 (as has been in the past few years). Sure loved to watch the old Bill Young Defensive players attack the opponents. Hopefully, we Jayhawk fans will once again enjoy seeing that style of defense being played beginning in 2013 and beyond.

I'm really getting excited to watch Kansas Football in 2013 already. Hoping that the wins will come (as well).

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

Hate to say it, because obviously defense is a major issue for us.

But it all falls on Heaps (or anyone who proves himself better) and the WR corp. Without outside and deep threats, we become very, very predictable and easy to contain.

Defense is critical, but what separated us from a 1-11 team and a 5-7 team was QB/WR play...or lack there of.

Until proven otherwise, we have to consider McCay as nothing more than another over-hyped, "middle of the pack" receiver; lest we repeat the Great Dayne Crist Debacle of 2012.

In short, Weis needs a standout WR. One, if not more, of the remaining scholly's has to go that direction.

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RockinChalkinLA 1 year, 7 months ago

The coaching staff should make Turzilli eat and sleep with a football, when they're not throwing them at him.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

My comment is fueled by skepticism, my friend.

Recall, if you will, Weis' comments about our receiving corp before last season. Paraphrasing....the WR spot is our deepest unit.

I see a corp losing its best receiver, Kale Pick, returning Parmellee and Turzilli, neither of whom impressed, and bringing in JUCO receivers to fill a gap that, honestly, was never filled to begin with.

I understand any recruit is a gamble regardless, but the point I was trying to make is Weis needs to bring in as many hyped receivers as possible.

The more the merrier at this point. And that means more than the 3 you mentioned in your unwarranted retort.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 7 months ago

His eye for talent is what's in question. Weis' transfer "Cavalry" did nothing for this program. So I wouldn't necessarily consider it "being blind;" moreover, referencing his track record with spotting quality transfer talent.

If one of these 3 guys pan out, then I was wrong. And I will gladly admit to being so.

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

It's not Weis's fault Crist and the WR's were so bad.

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

Deepest doesn't mean best. At the time, Omigie, Matthews, Turzilli, the 3 seniors, and Tre Parmalee were all competing for playing time.

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

ESPN on JUCO WR Mark Thomas: "Possesses good size" (6'1 210 pounds) and "has quick feet and a quick surge off the ball" and "is a reliable target with soft hands." Rivals says Thomas runs a 4.4 40.

ESPN on JUCO WR Rodriguez Coleman: "Plays fast and explosive" and "he has very quick feet and good stop/start ability given his height." Coleman is 6'3 195 pounds.

To conclude, I think McCay might be a disappointment (nothing like Crist though) but Thomas and Coleman are clearly flying under the radar and will make our WR core about average by Big 12 standards.

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David Leathers 1 year, 7 months ago

Hey Matt, just to let you know, Rivals has already included McKinney in this years class. I checked last night and saw that the list was up to 24. I wondered if you had somehow missed a recruit, but that's when I noticed Ty's name on the board as a commit on 12/17

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Jim Jackson 1 year, 7 months ago

Tait, what about Colton Goeas whose Dad mentioned us as a good possibility? He is also Koehler's HS teammate.

http://247sports.com/Player/Colton-Goeas-18063

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

With Schyler Miles and Ben Heeney at ILB for the next two seasons don't expect us to pursue him as much as Finnin, Josiah St. John, Hunter Jarmon, Jaelen Strong, and Reeve Koehler.

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Jason Keller 1 year, 7 months ago

Goeas would be huge. We have a lot of decent linebackers but only one great one in Ben. This guy would make two...

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KGphoto 1 year, 7 months ago

Jayhawker28 I accidentally flagged your post. Hope it doesn't come off here. Sorry.

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hawkdds 1 year, 7 months ago

We are going to find out this year if Charlie and staff are the real deal. They have the facilities, the backing of the administration, a good recruiting class and fans that want to see a resurgence of KU football. Another 1-11 season and we are toast, so god speed and good hunting Charlie--kick 'em in the you know what.RCJH

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Pbbut 1 year, 7 months ago

I love the size too, especially if they're play to their size. I remember a comment from Glen Mason after a game where we had beaten OU. Former OU coach Switzer gad pointed out before the game how short KU's OL was. Mason replied that 'they are short, but sure are wide.' The guy I remember out of that unit was Hessley Hempstead (NFL has him listed at 6' 1". 295 lbs.)

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hawkdds 1 year, 7 months ago

All the more reason to recruit 6'5" quarterbacks even though I loved Todd Reesing, but lets face it , QB's take a pounding from 300lb linemen. RGIII is hurt as is Rothesberger and they are big and athletic. Speed, size and athleticism has changed the game forever, Brady and the Peyton brothers rarely leave the pocket , it's too dangerous.

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Boouk 1 year, 7 months ago

I'd like to see us add one more safety who's capable of starting immediately so we aren't relying on Tevin Shaw, Dexter Linton, or Ray Mitchell starting alongside Isaiah Johnson next season. Hopefully with 3 scholarships left we land Finnin or Josiah St. John, Reeve Koehler, and a safety.

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Jim Jackson 1 year, 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure Dexter Mcdonald will be playing Safety.

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Matt Gauntt 1 year, 7 months ago

Matt,

I know this is off topic- but will you be doing a story on what the major shake up in the Big East might mean to the Big 12? Been checking the site every day since it happened to see what your take is. Thanks

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Jim Jackson 1 year, 7 months ago

Since Mckinney is back on board, that takes us to 24 commitments, with 3 spots open. Anyone know what scenario could play out for us to be able to sign 28, maybe 29 players?

Can we release some walk- ons? Would that work?

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Jason Keller 1 year, 7 months ago

Fine with me... Release them all.

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JayHawkFanToo 1 year, 7 months ago

Interesting. 20 out of the top 100 players played for a Kansas Community College.

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