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Coaching Search 2011: Day 5, 7:18 p.m. - Five favorites for the KU job? Plus, will Sumlin go to A&M or ASU? And a deeper look at Sonny Dykes

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7:18 p.m. Update:

One more link: This SB Nation report says that Arizona State has ended talks with Houston coach Kevin Sumlin.

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/2/2606803/arizona-state-kevin-sumlin-houston-end-talks-coach

Again, this could make it more likely that Sumlin goes to Texas A&M, which hypothetically would give KU a better chance of landing Larry Fedora.

Interestingly, Fedora also makes the list of Arizona State's potential candidates in the link above.

5:37 p.m. Update:

Couple of quick things before nightfall (sorry East coasters)...

First, an email was sent out from KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger to all Williams Fund Members today. It was short, sweet and to the point. KU's still searching and KU has options.

Here's the email:

Dear Williams Fund Donor,

Just a quick note to tell you we appreciate your support as we navigate through the important issues at Kansas Athletics.

Dealing first with conference alignment and now a change in out football program, it is certainly never a slow time in athletics.

As a Jayhawk, I am incredibly excited about the opportunities before us. I look forward to introducing the Jayhawk nation to the new leader of our football program very soon. I ask for your continued support as we move through this process.

We are fortunate to have such a strong fan base that reminds us, “Once a Jayhawk, Always a Jayhawk.”

Rock Chalk!

Sheahon Zenger
Director of Athletics
University of Kansas

One other note... As the weekend approaches and Zenger continues to try to trim his list and hone in on his finalists, we believe the top-tier guys are starting to take shape.

As of this minute on this day, here's a look at the likely Top 5:

1. Larry Fedora - Southern Miss head coach - may be the favorite
2. Mark Stoops - Florida State defensive coordinator - hanging around
3. Sonny Dykes - Louisiana Tech head coach - solid option
4. Dirk Koetter - Jacksonville OC (it's pronounced "Cutter" by the way) - rising fast
5. Dave Doeren - Northern Illinois head coach - not likely but not eliminated

I know that's not quite a percentage wheel, but it's close. And I think I may be feeling one coming on in the near future.

Stay tuned...

3:16 p.m. Update:

Boise State coach Chris Petersen, one of the big fish in the small pond of this year's coaching candidates, evidently will not be an option for UCLA.

Sources told ESPN.com that Petersen's name will not surface at UCLA, which is looking for a coach to replace Rick Neuheisel and restore some sort of luster to the Bruins program.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/7305778/boise-state-not-allow-chris-petersen-talk-ucla-bruins-source-says

Stay tuned...

2:56 p.m. Update:

Not a whole lot of new information in this, but John Henderson of The Denver Post, compiled a short and sweet look at all of the jobs out there right now. It's worth a look for a little perspective.

http://www.denverpost.com/henderson/ci_19453723

Trying to find out more on Fedora, Doeren and the Sumlin situation at the moment.

Stay tuned...

1:51 p.m. Update:

My bad on the Sumlin-ASU link. That was from Thursday and was refuted. I thought it was new... The link's still below in case you want to check it out, but, evidently, nothing is new there as of yet.

Stay tuned.

1:34 p.m. Update:

The Arizona Republic reported Thursday that Kevin Sumlin has been offered the job at Arizona State. Sumlin later refuted the report so who knows exactly where it came from.

Here's the link. Certainly would create a shift in terms of Larry Fedora and would leave A&M on the board as a top-tier job.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2011/12/01/20111201asu-football-offers-job-kevin-sumlin.html

Stay tuned...

1:07 p.m. Update:

First of all... WE'RE BACK up and running!!! Thanks for hanging in there. You guys are awesome! Time to make up for this morning's debacle. Got a lot planned for this afternoon, so check back often.

Here's the latest:

Seeing reports of Texas A&M making a serious play for Houston’s Kevin Sumlin... Makes perfect sense and may be a perfect fit.

I’d love to get in to Sumlin’s people and find out if the prospect of going from Conference USA to the SE-freaking-C would turn him off. If that’s the case, he, like Leach, could probably draw a similar payday (if not more) out west from UCLA or Arizona State.

I’m sure KU would even pay well for Sumlin, but it seems that he has no interest in Kansas. Surprises me a little since his recruiting ties and familiarity are basically in the heart of Big 12 country anyway. But to each his own.

The Sumlin news still has a potential impact on KU in terms of how it affects Southern Miss coach Larry Fedora. Fedora’s not talking until after the Eagles take on Sumlin’s Cougars in this weekend’s Conference USA championship game. If then.

In other news... Starting to hear about Sonny Dykes working on a contract extension with the folks at Louisiana Tech. Can't find anything concrete on this, but I'll keep looking.

I still don't think Dykes was a top-tier guy for the KU job, but it's interesting nonetheless.

More to come. Stay tuned...

11:33 a.m. Update:

Well, we've had some pretty major site issues today that's kept our traffic and discussion from being what it normally would.

All apologies for that. The issues is with Knology, our Internet service provider, and we've been told they're doing everything they can to fix the problem and get us back up and running.

Drag, I know. But look at it this way, at least this didn't happen on the day the new coach was hired... [me knocking on wood]...

I'll keep the updates limited until I know we're up and running again, but a couple of things to remember for those who can access the site right now.

• Just because a guy says he's interested doesn't mean KU's going to jump all over him. As I mentioned in a Tweet I sent while the site was down, KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger hit the road with a list and I'm guessing he's not going to deviate much from that list. Now, if Pete Carroll called and said he'd like to be considered for the job, I'm guessing Zenger would add him to the list. But not every Tom, Dick and Harry out there is going to get that kind of treatment, regardless of past experience. Zenger came up with the list he has with good reason and he's the kind of guy who's going to stick to his game plan.

• Another thing about coaches names coming up out of left field... A lot of times people will push a coach's name just so it's out there. Maybe a coach wants a job somewhere else but hasn't had contact with that school yet. So he says he's interested at another school to get his name on the radar and have people start talking about him and then that spreads like wildfire. It happens all the time in these deals and probably has already happened here with the KU job opening. No harm, no foul. Just the way it goes.

• One more thing that I'm starting to gather from talking to people in all corners of this thing, there seems to be serious sentiment that the program is in the best hands and in the best shape when Kansas guys are involved at least a little bit... Makes sense, really: The more people from around here that are on the staff, the deeper they're going to care about what happens to the program. I'm not saying that will be a deciding factor here by any means, but in addition to looking at the head coaching candidates with ties to KU and Zenger, it's important to think about the head coaching candidates who can bring in the most guys with ties to KU for their staff.

More to come. And once the site's back up for everyone, we'll try to make up for lost time.

Stay tuned...

8:57 a.m. Update:

It’s Day 5 and the list of candidates for Kansas University’s vacant head football coaching job seems to be getting clearer by the day.

One problem.... It also seems to be getting longer.

After riding the wave of the ups and downs that come with any coaching search for the first few days of the week, some real pitches for the job have started to surface.

Before we dive too deeply into the candidates, new and old, who have thrown their name into the hat, let’s take a moment to simply list the guys that seem to be in the running.

We’ll go with no particular order here — because, quite frankly, it’s still a little too difficult to tell who the favorites are — but assume that the guys near the top of the list have a better shot than the guys near the bottom.... for now. I’ll put breaks between what I perceive to be the different tiers.

Here goes nothing:

1. Larry Fedora - Southern Miss head coach one of the hotter names available
2. Mark Stoops - Florida State DC staying quiet and hanging around
3. Skip Holtz - South Florida head coach eyeing Big East to Big 12 move?

4. Dave Doeren - Northern Illinois head coach and former KU assistant
5. Sonny Dykes - La. Tech head coach known as offensive guru and solid recruiter
6. Brent Venables - OU DC is interested in KU job and primed for chance to run own program

7. June Jones - Offensive-minded veteran with past success at Hawaii and now SMU
8. Dave Christensen - Wyoming head coach and former Mizzou offensive coordinator
9. Dirk Koetter - Jacksonville asst. w/ 9 years of college experience at Arizona State & Boise State
10. Troy Calhoun - Air Force coach may be intrigued by challenge of Big 12

11. Houston Nutt - Can you hire a guy who just got fired even if it was from Ole Miss?
12. Phillip Fulmer - Former Tennessee coach ready to get back into coaching?
13. Gary Barnett - Former Colorado and Northwestern coach expressed interest in KU
14. Glen Mason - Former KU coach interested in getting back into coaching and KU

OK, I’m sure there are a few more names that could be on that list, but that’s the best of the best as far as I can tell. I also think it’s important to point out that probably only about half of those names are actually potential candidates. Remember, Zenger said earlier this week that he had a list of 6-to-10 candidates. You gotta figure Mike Leach was one of them, so that’s now more like 5-to-9.

Anyway, since none of us know who those 5-to-9 are, we might as well throw out all the guys that could be on there and see where that takes us.

OK, with the list out of the way, let’s ltake a closer look at a man who could be shooting his way up KU’s list. Sources have said there is real interest between KU and Louisiana Tech coach Sonny Dykes, the son of former Texas Tech coaching great Spike Dykes.

Here’s more...

La. Tech working on contract extension for Dykes: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20111202/SPORTS0203/112020329/La-Tech-working-extension-Dykes?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cs

In case you missed this from Tom Keegan, here’s a look Dykes' roots:

Video from Dykes’ days as a coordinator at Arizona under Mike Stoops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOfsFppstg

Dykes after this year’s spring game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7H-Xtyy3no

ESPN radio interview with Dykes after 2011 spring game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_GBB9GtzhY

And this from Dykes’ bio at La. Tech:

Sonny Dykes was introduced as the 32nd head coach in Louisiana Tech history on Jan. 20, 2010 in front of an overflowing Jarrell Room filled with Bulldog fans at the Charles Wyly Athletic Center.

In his first season Dykes put his high octane offense into effect, resulting in him being one of only four of the nation's 22 new head coaches to improve a team's conference record from the year before. Dykes' exciting brand of offense improved in several areas of the NCAA statistical ranks including passing offense (91st in 2009 to 62nd in 2010) and total offense (66th to 52nd) while the team's average offensive national rank improved from 65th in 2009 to 54th in 2010.

Dykes, son of Texas Tech coaching legend Spike Dykes, has coached in the PAC-10, Southeastern Conference and Big 12 during his 16 years in the college football profession while also serving under some very successful head coaches including Mike Leach and Mike Stoops.

He won the 2006 Mike Campbell Top Assistant Award, presented by the All-American Football Foundation, and was a nominee for the 2009 Broyles Award, which goes to the nation's top assistant coach.

Dykes comes to Louisiana Tech after completing his third season as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Arizona, leading the Wildcats to an 8-5 record and an appearance in the Holiday Bowl. That Holiday Bowl appearance marked Dykes' 10th bowl appearance as a coach with all 10 appearances coming within the last 11 years.

A spread-offense specialist, Dykes' offensive attack set at least five single-season records at Arizona while also racking up a pile of single-game marks in the UA record book. Former Wildcat quarterback Willie Tuitama, a disciple of Dykes, notched career numbers that are among Arizona's best.

Rivals.com cited Dykes as one of the countries brightest offensive minds and top ten college recruiters in the country.

Dykes' Arizona team went 6-3 in the Pac-10 Conference during the 2009 campaign, finished tied for second in the league with Oregon State and Stanford.

Fond of the passing attack, Dykes Arizona offense in 2008 ranked 16th in scoring and 33rd in total offense while developing and outstanding run-pass balance.

Dykes orchestrated an Arizona offense that was ranked 10th nationally in passing yards per game in 2007 as he coached then-junior Tuitama to honorable mention All-Pac-10 honors that year. That same season, he helped develop the offensive scheme that pushed receiver Mike Thomas to first-team all-league status as a junior and senior ('08).

Prior to his tenure at Arizona, Dykes was co-offensive coordinator working with then-head coach Mike Leach and inside receivers coach Dana Holgorsen running Texas Tech's wide-open passing attach in 2005-06 after having been Texas Tech's wide receivers coach since 2000. The Red Raiders were among the national top six in total offense and passing during the span.

Texas Tech was No. 3 in passing and No. 6 in total offense in 2006 under his co-direction, throwing for 370 yards and accumulating nearly 450 overall. He directed an offense that scored 32 points per game in 2006 with two receivers ranked top three in the nation and a third in the top 20 in receptions per game.

While in Lubbock, Dykes helped develop Joel Filani into a two-time first team All-Big 12 honoree and a sixth-round NFL draft selection by the Tennessee Titans in 2007. Receiver Jarrett Hicks also signed a free-agent deal with the San Diego Chargers that year.

Dykes also worked with quarterback Graham Harrell who completed 412 passes for 4,555 yards and 38 touchdowns in 2006, ranking Texas Tech third nationally in total offense that season.

Prior to his five seasons at Texas Tech, Dykes spent two non-consecutive seasons at Kentucky, first coaching tight ends as a graduate assistant in 1997 and then coaching special teams and wide receivers in 1999 under the "Air Raid" attack of former UK coach Hal Mumme. Dykes coached Kentucky's James Whalen to AP All-America honors after his Division I-A record for receptions by a tight end.

Stay tuned...

Comments

ParisHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

I can access both mobile and normal versions of this site on my iPhone. but neither from my desktop. Weird. ISP got problems?

Matt Tait 9 years, 10 months ago

You are correct. They're aware and working rapidly to resolve it. Bear with us. Thanks!!!

ja3hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Yeah... site was having issues. I was hoping it was flooded with traffic from the news of KU hiring a new head coach! :)

LSHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Funny how "the worst BCS coaching position" is attracting some very quality coaches interest. Never listen to the talking heads, they always show you how little they know when they open thier mouths. Anyway, love seeing Venables is interested.

9 years, 10 months ago

+1 ~ The more I hear and think about Venables, the more I like him.

Starting to warm up to Doeren too. His team is one stop away from beating us, sitting at 10-2 right now, and no one talking about how he got beat by Gill. In the interest of full disclosure, they did lose at Central Michigan (3-9) this year.

Jones would be a good option, however I read SMU is paying him quite well ($2M yr?), so we might not be able to afford to pull him away from that gig.

Matt Tait 9 years, 10 months ago

Don't get too excited about Venables... He's a good coach but I'm not sure how seriously he'll be considered.

Interview? Perhaps. Finalist? Doubtful.

9 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for the insight, Matt. Does it have to do with Venables not having any head coaching experience, not being a good fit for us, or is there something about his style or him personally that would keep him off mid-to-upper tier schools’ A-Lists?

buckleyhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

After listening to Jon Kirby on The Border Patrol this morning, I'm getting very curious about Koetter. He was very successful at BSU (he was the first coach to make them a winner), good at ASU and seemingly got a raw deal due to bad timing. The NFL connection doesn't hurt either...

railer20 9 years, 10 months ago

I heard the same thing and it got me interested also...suprised me a little to see him in the third tier on Matt's list. I wish we were good enough to fire a coach after a 7-5 season (and look where AZ State is now).

irvan moore 9 years, 10 months ago

just hire glen mason, ya know what ya get and it's pretty good

bradh 9 years, 10 months ago

As long as Georgia and Minnesota don't have openings I guess it is all right. Sorry, the guy who couldn't wait to leave wouldn't be on my list until almost every other candidate was crossed off.

JayhawkParadise 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt - thoughts on Chad Morris from Clemson? Heard rumblings of his name early on, and excited by his potential. Any thoughts here?

Thanks so much for the coverage; while your work productivity goes up, ours seem to go down..

michael anway 9 years, 10 months ago

I agree. Matt Morris is a great candidate, History of succes, Offensive Guru and recruits well in Texas. He stated in Tulsa where I hear that's not a bad place to get experince.

plotku 9 years, 10 months ago

How about Turner Gill being a finalist for the UAB job, How do you sell that one to your students and boosters??????? "Hey guys I know he isn't a proven winner, or for that matter even putting together teams that are competitive, but hey who cares about winning anyway?" That is one weird conversation to have.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 10 months ago

He is also in the list at Akron, now that Tressel indicated he is not interested...

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 10 months ago

Oh gawd! Here we go with tha "Kansas ties" thing again...kill me now!

Micky Baker 9 years, 10 months ago

KU's football history is better than that of Kansas State and Boise State and a lot of others.

I wouldn't try to pretend you know something.

Matt Tait 9 years, 10 months ago

It's not about the program's success, though... It's about having people in the program who care and would give their left... arm... for the program to be successful.

There's no substitute for that...

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 10 months ago

Agree. I could give a sheet about someone being familiar with KU. Gve me someone that would give their left arm to win a football game!

railer20 9 years, 10 months ago

started out in KS though...even if it was KSU

TwistedFish31 9 years, 10 months ago

Just go back to your k-state site you little troll.

KUMC81Hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand why Stoops and Venables are rated as high as they are. IMO a winning HC (even at the mid-major level) with experience as a BCS OC or DC is a better candidate than a BCS OC or DC.

KUMC81Hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

While Allen and Gill had experience coaching at the mid-major level, neither had experience as a BCS OC or DC. Did you misunderstand my post? I'll post it again "IMO a winning HC (even at the mid-major level) with experience as a BCS OC or DC is a better candidate than a BCS OC or DC."

Micah Mandy Haase 9 years, 10 months ago

Well I guess since T A&M is looking for a coach where will Sherman end up and how does the vacancy there affect our search?

Joe Joseph 9 years, 10 months ago

I almost didn't know what to do with myself the past 6 hours without this site. What am I supposed to do? Work?!

actorman 9 years, 10 months ago

Work??? What are you, un-American or something?

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 10 months ago

Since the "big splash" hire is not out there what about going with an intern coach all of next season?

actorman 9 years, 10 months ago

Dykes seems like he would be a great fit, so I'm holding out hope that KU can get him.

Why no mention of Nolan Cromwell? Is he completely out of the question?

SuperJayTNT 9 years, 10 months ago

Kansas ties = prepare yourself for Doenen. Crap.

Matt Tait 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm not saying that's what I meant, but I do think Doeren's become a strong candidate and would do a terrific job here.

Not sure it'll come to that, but if it does, don't let the name bum you out.

Major upgrade from Gill in a lot of ways.

moliemolie 9 years, 10 months ago

He was a very successful recruiter here. He coached our LB's when they were awesome. He was a very successful DC as Wisconsin. He's won 9 games so far in his first year as HC. He is from KC so he might stay for years if he is successful. There is enough to say he is a very strong candidate.

blackhawkjayhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

June Jones should be the number one candidate. In every way superior to Leach - just as much, if not more success, proven rebuilder, less baggage.

I don't get Venables. He has access to some of the best athletes around but his defense isn't really that good, is it?

dylans 9 years, 10 months ago

Did you watch OU shut down KU in the second half? Or KSU in the second half of that game?

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

Did you not see what Manny Diaz did to KU the entire game. UT almost had more points than KU had yards.

Bville Hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

I think we need to add Jim Leavitt back into the mix. He has been a successful coach at a BCS school. Took a program from non-existence to respectability in just a few years.

Two issues: 1) He is supposedly unavailable til after the 49ers are eliminated from the NFL playoffs. That is probably true, but not cast in stone. Certainly if he signed with us with him taking over after the 49ers season concludes it would make the job of the recruiters still on staff much easier.

2) He was fired from USF for striking a player. You would have to build in some serious language in his contract to deter anything like that in the future, i.e. immediate termination with payment of a penalty to the university equal to 6 months salary or some such thing.

Micky Baker 9 years, 10 months ago

It is fishy that all these coaches that were accused of mistreatment of players all coached under Bill Snyder,and then as soon as Mark Mangino is gone, Snyder returns to coaching.

Leavitt, Mangino, and Leach came from under the same mold. Who molded them?

All three terminated, while Snyder sat out?

Any way, these kids are 18, when they start playing. They are adults.

The biggest mistake Mangino made is that he benched players who got them unsportsmanlike penalties, except for Aqib Talib in the Orange Bowl.

Those other guys didn't see much PT after that.

However, character! Talib is now in legal trouble for something in the Dallas area. If he was defending his mother from a thug, good for him, but if he is a thug, bad for him.

Nonetheless, Mangino didn't treat the players equally (Talib was First Team-All American). If he wasn't, would have seen another down in the Orange Bowl? Probably not.

But that says something. KU can attract some of the top players(we have some right now).

Personally, my biggest concern are the rules Gray-Little has imposed on Zenger that none of us know about, because corruption is usually kept a secret. Gray-Little strikes me as "if you kiss my rear end you get what you want, if not, I destroy you even if you're the best".

To me, that is the where the lack the credibility at the University is.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

Synder was coaching at K-State in 2009, the year Leavitt, Mangino and Leach were fired. It was his first year back.

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

So many inaccuracies in that post, another one to point out is when exactly did Mike Leach coach under Bill Snyder? I was always under the impression that Leach came to OU from Kentucky where he learned his offense from Hal Mumme and not Bill Snyder. Guess I should go update Wikipedia to say that Leach is a former KState assistant coach now because we all know Wikipedia never lies like how it says that Mark Mangino was born in Honolulu instead of Pennsylvania.

sevenyearhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Your ISP failed to execute ... I believe that you need a new one!

TwistedFish31 9 years, 10 months ago

I think Venables is the best of the Coordinators out there. And for those of you that don't like the idea of getting an assistant...where do you think head coaches come from?

letourneau41 9 years, 10 months ago

Where do you think that failed head coaches come from?

VaJay 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, the ties to Kansas issue - does that elevate a coach like Doeren (and is he the only one with a direct link)? And does it mean the candidates are being asked who they might bring in with them?

Matt Tait 9 years, 10 months ago

That's always a question for candidates... Always.

I wasn't necessarily implying that Doeren would be the guy or that the guy would have to have Kansas ties himself. Just the ability to bring guys onto his staff that may.

Make sense? Hope so.

Steve Hillyer 9 years, 10 months ago

Glad to see I'm not the only one that cringed when I saw the "Kansas connection", it goes without saying KU football doesn't exactly have a coaching tree, not even a dandelion, but even programs that do have one it doesn't always work out i.e. Frank Solich NU, Matt Doherty UNC. Huge mistake to limit your candidates to someone with a connection to the area or school, the guy could be from Timbukfreakintu for all I care, as long as he can coach.

kupride4u 9 years, 10 months ago

Back finally!

I asked this yesterday during your live chat, but I was kind of late getting it in.

How long do you think SZ knew that Gill was gone? Reason I ask is because if he had known for 3-4 weeks, why not announce it a week or two sooner, then maybe would could have gotten a guy like Leach, Sumlin, etc. in place a day or two after the season before other jobs started opening.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, What is the scoop on Venables's recruiting skills? I have read in several articles that it is his weak spot. However, an article on the KC Star by Blair Kerkhoff indicates that "...He’s been described as a “maniacal” recruiter" which would seem to indicate the opposite, wouldn't it? Any thoughts?

KUAlum2000 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, not sure if you've got this, but the report out here in Phoenix is that ASU just offered Sumline the job here. No word on if he accepted it.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

I got back in. I learned a little bit about Twitter this morning. It is hard to follow some of the side conversations. A lot of talk down here about the A&M opening and Sumlin is definitely the guy they are targeting. The Aggies may be the one program in more disarray than KU. I find it hard to believe they let go Sherman, but they have always had a sense they are bigger than they really are. Next year, they lose alot of top players and play in the SEC West with a new coach.

I really think it is a mistake to give priority over Kansas ties. I would be more concerned about ties to Texas high schools. Looking at the top half of the list, I think that Jones, Dykes and Fedora would be the best hires. But that's my opinion. My guess is that Fedora will have better opportunities; Jones will command a high price tag as he currently makes over $2M/year and Dykes could be a possibility (though I would prefer a defensive guy,

sevenyearhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Colorado went to the Pac-12 with a new coach ...

Texas A&M is going to the SEC with a new coach ...

Mizzou might be going to the SEC with a new coach ...

what the frack?

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

Colorado was rebuilding and has no illusion of being competitive in the Pac-12 for at least the next 3-4 years.

A&M expected to waltz through the last year of the Big 12, contend for a national championship and flip off the Big 12 as it moved to the SEC. They lost alot of close games and were never blown out. To me it would seem like an overreaction. I live down here and the Aggies think of themselves on par with the powers of the Big 12 and SEC when they really are on par with Missouri and Texas Tech and Kansas State and Mississippi State and South Carolina and maybe Arkansas. I find it amusing. I don't think they would accept Larry Fedora as a replacement.

Of course, there are may who post here who think the KU job is better than it really is.

MU is not changing coaches.

coolsportsdad 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, At least a little dissappointed to notice that N'Western's Fitzgerald didn't make to either of your lists. He was on earlier ones, has something gone down that would eliminate him? He's been to 4 bowl games in 6 years. He can obviously recruit to a high standard private school and then coach them through the Big 10 schedule every year. I know it's his alma mater, but it would appear that we can double his salary. He's young enough to have the energy required to turn this cruise ship around. Thanks for all you work in this process, enjoy the read.

blackhawkjayhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Beware of the Sumlin love affair. Look at his record with his quarterback and then his record without. Like Mangino, he's benefitted from a great quarterback. Without one, both suffered mightily.

A&M can have him. He'll get killed in that league - which is why he'd be smart not to take the job.

June Jones and Fedora are the guys we need.

Likewise on Doeren. I love much of his background but NIU won the league before he came, too. How much of this season was him? I'm guessing that Zenger can figure that out.

In any case, I'm actually encouraged by all of the quality options that are out there. Zenger will come through with the right hire.

coolsportsdad 9 years, 10 months ago

Agree completely on Sumlin, he's an internet stock right now and his record without Keenum says it all. Prefer Fedora over Jones, though.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

We are not going to have to worry about Sumlin. We are not on his radar. He is very impressive and we should have looked at him two years ago.

Kent Wells 9 years, 10 months ago

The ISP is knology? Humm... This would be a lot like going to the doktor. And Knology owes me! I didn't get my day started off on the right foot at all. I figured the chat yesterday just drained the system!

CardHawkFan 9 years, 10 months ago

Just out of curiosity, Matt, is there no chance from either side that could see Gus Malzahn interested in the job or us interested in him?

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm curious as to why James Franklin's name hasn't popped up anywhere. He has Vanderbilt bowl eligible in his first season in Nashville and that is a one hell of an accomplishment considering Vandy went 2-10 each of the previous two seasons and only has one winning season in the past 30 years. Vandy's defense is top 30 in points allowed and top 20 in yards allowed and 4 of their 6 losses were by 6 points or less and their two blowout losses were to two top 15 teams on the road (Bama and S.Car). His biggest coaching influence is Ralph Friedgen of Maryland where Franklin was an assistant under Friedgen for 7 years. James Franklin is going to be a great hire for whoever gets him out of Nashville to somewhere he has resources and a good talent pool. I would love to see what he could do at a place like KU where he has better all around resources and much easier schedule on a yearly basis that he does at Vandy.

blackhawkjayhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Interesting name. Seems like a worthy candidate. Would his recruiting ties to the east be a drawback? Might be tough to pull the trigger on a 6-6 guy, even though, as you point out, he's been very successful. Interesting to see that his defense is very strong even though he comes from the other side of the ball. Love the idea of the West Coast offense.

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

He spent two years as the OC/QB at KState and helped develop Josh Freeman into a pretty good QB when he wasn't playing KU so he has spent a couple of years in the region and wouldn't be completely unfamiliar with recruiting or coaching in the Big 12. He comes from the Frank Beamer coaching tree by way of Friedgen which probably goes a long way towards why there's such an emphasis on defense.

Sam Brockert 9 years, 10 months ago

Stable SEC Head coach or could implode in six years big 12 Head Coach....I think the SEC one would have my vote...

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

Money talks and and KU could pay a hell of a lot more money than Vandy can plus there's a much higher ceiling for success at a place like KU than Vandy.

blackhawkjayhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Please make a case for Venables. Given OU's paltry defense, I'm interested as to why he should be considered a candidate. Not being a jerk, just would like to know more.

jhawkjunkie 9 years, 10 months ago

Venables-1) Bob Stoops isn't going anywhere soon.2) Defense! 3) Kansas boy so he knows the state and where to recruit. 4) Defense! 5) Knows the Big 12 and the talent 6) Did I mention DEFENSE!

plotku 9 years, 10 months ago

Carl Pelini is supposedly going to accept the FAU job.

cvince10 9 years, 10 months ago

Given SZ history at ISU and as a coach, I don't see how June Jones even makes the list. Assuming that history is a good indication of future, I think a case could be made for all on the list except Jones. But I'll defer to "greater minds" for a prediction of how SZ experiences will factor into his selection process. He picked a DC from Purdue at ISU, who appears to have an above average record after two years.

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

I wonder if Zenger waited too long to fire Gill.

cardinco 9 years, 10 months ago

JahawkSlant (rivals) is reporting that Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter is a candidate. I don't have access to rivals, so don't know the details.

railer20 9 years, 10 months ago

Koetter, I think, would be a good candidate...He was the one that actually got the Boise State program up and running...won 10 games each of the last two years he was there. Then he went to Arizona State and had success there also. They fired him after a 7-5 season (KU would KILL for some of those) to hire Erikson, who won 10 games with Koetter's players the following year and has put them back into mediocrity and was fired.

dhinkansas 9 years, 10 months ago

I've always thought Venables would be a good candidate for anyone, but his name seldom comes up when teams are looking. Sumlin is over-rated in my opinion because of his q/b. 5-7 last year when the qb was hurt. A good qb even makes Pinkel look like a good coach.

DevilHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt,

What are the thoughts on hiring Chris Petersen away from Boise State?

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

Not that you asked me, but...would you take the KU job if you were Petersen?

I sure wouldn't. I'd stay put for anything except an elite (top 10) coaching job.

I hope KU tries for him anyway, if only a wing shot.

DevilHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm not sure. The KU opening does provide a lot of potential for any coach who can seriously recruit and coach. It would depend on how certain I was that an elite coaching job actually would open up.

Personally, I don't think that elite schools are going to seriously interview him. They may give him the opportunity to interview, but I have little doubt that they still want to see what happens when he coaches against better teams on a regular basis.

He doesn't have the coaching lineage that many schools would like to see. Also, his emphasis as a coach was on the offensive side of the game. Because defense wins championships - and that is what elite programs are looking to do - I really don't expect to see an elite program take the risk of hiring him.

With that in mind, I think that he would take the opportunity. He has shown that he is willing to take educated risks when those risks have the opportunity to reap a high reward. I think that that is the status of the KU job at the moment.

He has made make recruiting in roads in California and Texas while at Boise State, and I think that he could do an excellent job at KU - especially with the help of Reggie Mitchell and Buddy Wyatt. The problem will be finding someone to coach the defense.

Kevin Randell 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm going to throw in my two cents on Dirk Koetter. I was living in Stillwater when he accepted the job to coach at OSU, then two days later Arizona State offered him more money and he bolted. Don't get me wrong, it worked out great because OSU got Les Miles, and in his time at Arizona State he didn't do that well.

DevilHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Koetter is on my list of coaches not to hire.

He couldn't beat a ranked team at ASU despite having every opportunity to do so, and nearly every other team in the Big 12 is ranked at some point in the season.

michael anway 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt: What about Chad Morris at Clemson. Why isn't he on your list?

blindrabbit 9 years, 10 months ago

Someone please tell me the scoop about Nolan Cromwell! Every time KU is in the hunt for a football coach his name comes up; what's the skinny? Is he not interested, not wanted, does not want to be a head coach, etc?????

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

He has no head coach experience. If we hire him, it would be our tenth option.

justinryman 9 years, 10 months ago

Finally I can get on site today. Here in Nebraska it's been down all day, must be the OWH thwarting my knowledge of all things Kansas, since they are so mad about Gill getting canned.

Just good to be back.

michael anway 9 years, 10 months ago

Heck with it all. Go for bust and get Tressel!

shinanigins 9 years, 10 months ago

My list would look like..... 1) Fedora (Sumlin would actually be #1 but I don't see that as happening so I leave him off)

2) Stoops 3) Holtz

4) Dykes 5) Jones 6) Venables

7) Calhoun, then everyone else

Bville Hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Texas A&M Aggie joke not really relevant, but funny nonetheless:

A building was suffering from a rat infestation and the A&M Aggie Exterminating Service was called to take care of the problem. A dozen Aggie Storm Troopers charged into the building and a raging battle ensued. After 3 hours all was quiet. Six troopers were lost in the battle, 3 were injured and received battlefield decorations, and the final 3 came out with war brides.

railer20 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, I heard on 810 sports today that there are also rumors that Mack Brown may retire after this year. Have you heard anything about this and if so will that hurt KU with their search. I would guess Texas could pick from any coach they wanted other than the Alabama's, Ohio State's, etc.

Daniel Kennamore 9 years, 10 months ago

I don't think it affects our candidates at all.

The Texas job is a whole other level compared to KU. Nobody Texas would be interested in would give us the time of day.

shinanigins 9 years, 10 months ago

I had heard that rumor myself. I also heard that if Mack does retire that Saban would be offered a very large deal to come to Texas.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

According to the message boards from the link I posted, it is rumored that when Brown retires that Chris Petersen would be a good replacement.

Daniel Kennamore 9 years, 10 months ago

Just to give an idea of how big of a missed opportunity Leach was, in addition to all the front-page free press WSU got, they've also sold 750 season tickets and gathered $170,000 in donations over the course of two days.

Again, this was a massive blunder by Zenger.

http://www.king5.com/sports/WSU-financial-boost-Mike-Leach-hire-134856733.html

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

Why are you blaming Zenger? Maybe Leach didn't want to come here. Is that Zenger's fault?

Daniel Kennamore 9 years, 10 months ago

Leach had been throwing his own name at every BCS job that could had opened up the last couple weeks of the season, from Arizona State to Ole Miss, and he is friends with Zenger.

WSU is not a remarkably better job than KU...they just pulled the trigger first.

nwhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

You really don't know what Zenger did or didn't do. Nor do you know what Mike Leach thought about the KU job. Do you really think KU didn't snag Leach because WSU made the first offer? That's ridiculous. Mike Leach wouldn't just take the first offer. He knows his value.

Daniel Kennamore 9 years, 10 months ago

Actually...unless you know otherwise, he quite literally took the first offer.

nwhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Really? You're Mike Leach. Do you take the first offer? Or do you take the offer that's the best fit for you?

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

Mike Leached helped out a summer camp at WSU this past season and they're paying him somewhere in the ballpark of $2.5 million per season. Because of him helping out at the summer camp, he's already familiar with most of the personnel at WSU so him going there isn't the risk that some are making it out to be.

Kevin Randell 9 years, 10 months ago

Oh come on...that's only an additional $300K in revenue for next year. And that is just saying if tickets were $50 a piece. Na....we didn't drop the ball with Leach...

Daniel Kennamore 9 years, 10 months ago

That's in TWO DAYS. That's just the start of their payday because of the hire.

railer20 9 years, 10 months ago

There is a reason I believe went there...The guy from Jayhawkslant (can't think of the name) said nobody was calling Leach...not ASU, Illinois, UCLA...I wonder if the lawsuits won't end up causing some issues for WSU in the future. I would have loved to have him, and he would have put butts in the seats for sure, but if we are looking out for our university, I think the baggage was just too much

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

Washington State is in a better position to handle the lawsuits than KU. First, Leach is not suing another conference school. Secondly, Leach is suing ESPN and ESPN is a major partner for KU. They own the conference first tier rights AND they pay KU about $6M/year to show basketball games. These are 3rd tier rights which KU does not share with other conference members and the contract is due in a couple of years.

WSU and Pac-12 have sold the majority of its media rights to FOX. As a result of that, WSU has a boat load of money to offer a new coach.

At the end of the day, Leach may just preferred the Pac-12 and WSU over KU. You can't blame Zenger for that.

Mandie Eutsler 9 years, 10 months ago

I disagree. Lotsa baggage. Do you think that (assuming they are close friends) he would take a gamble with his own career and his buddy's bringing all of that with him? I think ANY Big 12 job wouldn't be in his best interest and he knows it. I have serious doubts that his need for revenge would outweigh a fresh start and a chance to be successful.

Bville Hawk 9 years, 10 months ago

It's not a blunder if Leach gives you a verbal commitment then reneges at the last minute. It's not a blunder if you are getting yourself into a situation where Leach has his dick up your arse and you can't get it out!

Sayers44 9 years, 10 months ago

Yes it is a blunder, a blunder of the major kind.

First: Turner Gill should have been given 4 years to produce.

Second: Should never have fired Gill until a new coach was in place and signed....

New coach should already be out recruiting.

Zenger has pulled a Steve Peterson and it is not pretty.

KU is going to get leftovers.

AzNHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Steve Pederson? Oh you're talking about the AD at Nebraska that fired Frank Solich after 6 winning seasons because he wouldnt let "Nebraska gravitate into mediocrity"

You're talking about the guy who hired Bill Callahan and led Nebraska into a few mediocre seasons right?

My oh my! What has KU gotten itself into? HAHAHAH!

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 10 months ago

4 years...let me help you with the math...Less than ten wins over a 4 year period...the problem was TG should have never been hired in the first place. The best thing about this coaching search, is the person will be better than Turner "the worst coach in Kansas History" Gill.

Micky Baker 9 years, 10 months ago

No, it is't a blunder.

Arizona State didn't. (We should have fired Gill EARLIER than we did though) Texas A&M didn't UCLA didn't Ohio State didn't.

etc., etc.

It is very hard to get someone interested in a job that isn't open.

nwhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

How do you know? Seriously. Give us your insight. Cite your sources. Otherwise you're purely speculating.

irvan moore 9 years, 10 months ago

please go hire glen mason and you can come back home

Kent Wells 9 years, 10 months ago

Hey Matt,

Any truth to the rumor that you launched the percentage wheel and that crashed the site?

cvince10 9 years, 10 months ago

I heard it was the Cheetos and Mike and Ike's he was eating at his desk!

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

There are 5 remaining candidates

Doeren Doeren Doeren Doeren Doeren

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

Zenger's letter as quoted by doyel on the message board. "Once a Jayhawk, always a Jayhawk" is a probably reference to Doeren.

That, and he just "fits" as Tait has said. He's the guy to bet on.

That, and KU is sure as hell too polite to bag a name guy like Leach or Fedora.

Doeren is better than Gill. Although....he lost to Gill. Gosh that's nice.

But Doeren is the guy. I'd bet my retirement.

RUNDO 9 years, 10 months ago

Is there an announcement coming very soon ?Just got this email from Mr Zenger.... "I look forward to intorducing the Jayhawk Nation to the new leader of our football program very soon. I ask that you consider helping the program grow by attending game at Memorial Stadium in 2012." Sounds like they are getting ready to spend some CASH MONEY.........

dgless21 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, is there any interest in/from Fitzgerald?

Also, who do you hope we get and why?

Thanks again for all your work.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

Apparently Zenger is on the road looking for the next coach. Don't we have a Zenger tracker?

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

On another subject, rumors are floating around that A&M will fire its AD Bill Byrne. This makes you realize how abruptly fortunes can change. Three months ago, the Aggies were on the top of the world with a Top 10 football team and had just broken away from Big Brother Texas to move to the SEC. They expected their last year in the Big 12 to result in a championship and BCS game and now look at them. They may be on the hook for $40M with coaches buy-outs and exit fees and the athletic department was already operating in the red.

This reminds me a little of KU 2009. Ranked football team- starts out 5-0. Consensus # 1 basketball team and then in a few short months: fight, seven straight losses, Mangino out/ Gill in, Northern Iowa, Perkins-gates and conference realignment. We are due to have our fortunes turn.

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

Forget Stoops. It's Doeren. Just wait and see.

Beats Leach, huh? Oh yeah.

rob4lb 9 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand the obsession with Doeren. He would seem to be a high risk hire. He has has only one year as a head coach. He took over a team that was already good so there is no indication he can perform a turnaround.

He is from the area, which to me is not that important of an attribute.

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm anti-Doeren. But I think that's just the kind of hire that KU will make.

Unfortunately.

jhawkjunkie 9 years, 10 months ago

Brent Venables! If he's interested in the job, HIRE HIM! Bob Stoops isn't going anywhere ANYTIME soon, Venables wants a job, hire him. He's from Kansas and knows the area keeping the instate talent in Kansas. KSU isn't going to hire him, they hired outside the family last time, when ol' Snyder finally decides to retire, the replacement will be from somebody from his own staff. He knows the conference the teams. He has multiple Big 12 championship rings and a National Championship ring, has coached NFL talent. And most importantly, DEFENSE!!

JhawkalumJB 9 years, 10 months ago

I like Venables a bunch. While watching OU play his passion for the game is awesome. I think that FB players respond well to that.

Side note: I was very envious of his enthusiasm while enduring Gills monotone responses to questions at press conferences and his lack of emotion during games.

Venables would be KU's version of Frank Martin enthusiasm and antics.

I would welcome the hire. That said, Fedora is my top choice now that Leach is gone.

trout984bum 9 years, 10 months ago

Why Venables? I live in OU country and they want the Stoops bro to come back to legitimize their defense again. He hasn't gotten it done with the best defensive recruits the B12 can produce. Pass on him...

AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

another k state that used to throw little metal balls

ku basketball almost cost one there eyes were suppost to
be jayhawk but looks like we have been wildcat a.d. wildcat now some of you want are football coach to be wildcat,

where your pride

AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

another k state that used to throw little metal balls

ku basketball almost cost one there eyes were suppost to
be jayhawk but looks like we have been wildcat a.d. wildcat now some of you want are football coach to be wildcat,

where your pride

ack 9 years, 10 months ago

Zenger and Tait- Call Mike Ackerley Former KU Asst. Coach now with the Tenn Titans as Dir. of College Recruitment Knows KU Likes Lawrence Great Recruiter Knows the Big 12.

David Atchley 9 years, 10 months ago

I am not certain why there is any remote sentiment to bringing "Glen Mason" back? Those that recall his premature ejaculation to Georgia..then ultimately changed his mind, only injured a very fragile recruiting period of that year. He was off to find greener pastures...and that's where he should stay....

doctorWho 9 years, 10 months ago

Picking Mason would mitigate the risk of bringing in Turner Gill v2.0 or Terry Allen v2.0 (i.e. Doeren) That is why I hope Mason receives some thought.

That said, I hope we do better than Mason, but I'm not sure we are going to achieve that. Forget about building for the future. What we need is damage control.

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 10 months ago

I've gone back and forth on a few names, but the following I would feel good about: 1) Venables 2) Leavitt 3) Peterson (long shot and would be my favorite) 4) Manny Diaz (I'm torn about, but I would take him) 5) Pete Carroll - he would sell some tickets...and I'm sure we would get some rock star to come sing before games (snoop dog at USC...he'll get some one for KU). Let's admit it, this would be a home run...and Seattle might not be too happy with him, he was always built for the college game. 6) Philip Fulmer was my top choice last time around, he still would be a huge win this time around. He has ties to SEC country for recruiting and KU has some people that have ties to Texas recruiting.

Okay 1) Chad Morris - Success in multiple locations as an OC. 2) Kirby Smart

I'd rather shoot myself 1) Doeren (The only thing I knew about this guy is he let a KU offense score 45 on him) 2) Sumlin and Fedora - Both have one good year in a mediocre conference...oh I thought I was typing the same thing that they said about Turner Gill. 3) Houston Nutt - Please no, I'd rather have Neusheisal or Sherman and they are bad 4) Mark Stoops hasn't been consistent as any DC

Shouldn't even be considered 1) Above listed is a Missouri Coordinator - I don't care what we do, but if we hired him, I think that we should burn the stadium down in protest 2) Barnett - Talk about a Syracuse or PSU repeat occurring...I'll pass.

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, Sorry to tell you those 5 names, are horrible...i think they all fall in "I'd rather shoot myself" category.

Please get SZ on the phone and tell him that all of those names are unacceptable and that ljw will blast him for any of those.

jhawkjunkie 9 years, 10 months ago

What happened to Venables?! He has been a part of the turn around in Manhattan, and again in Oklahoma. If anybody would know how to build a foundation for a winner, I would think it would be him!

Robert Brown 9 years, 10 months ago

Though none of the names will result in appreciable increase in season ticket sales, I think the candidates (at least the Top 3) are the types of candidates we can expect at KU. I know alot of people don't want to hear that. We have to hope that Zenger is able to identify the right guy. At this point, he needs to take his time in making the decision. Fedora has a game tomorrow.

Is anyone tracking Zenger's whereabouts?

irvan moore 9 years, 10 months ago

where in the heck is glen mason? best choice left.

texashawk10 9 years, 10 months ago

You would shoot yourself if a former Missouri assistant coach was hired at KU, but you would be excited to have a Missouri alum as head coach at KU? Pot meet kettle. Dave Christensen is one of the few coaches mentioned who has actually had success at a place that hasn't been great recently and has the tools to do the same at KU.

pepper_bar 9 years, 10 months ago

Koetter is a non-starter. How is he even on your list? "Rising fast"? Huh?

Fedora isn't going to leave USM for Kansas. USM is a better job.

Doeren is the guy. This is becoming pretty obvious.

babyjay1 9 years, 10 months ago

On the subject of the letter to Williams Fund Donors... Mine also referenced that he hoped we would continue to support KU by purchasing fix for the 2012 football season!! That is still under consideration.

David Meredith 9 years, 10 months ago

Matt, Maybe i missed this earlier, but why would you say Doeren is a not likely? Although from reading the message boards, that may be a good thing for most.

JayhawkMafiaFamily 9 years, 10 months ago

“Once a Jayhawk, Always a Jayhawk.” This can mean one thing and one thing only: Welcome Back, Mangino! We missed you big guy!

AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

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AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

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AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

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Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

mctait Matt Tait Gut feeling after hearing that Arizona State is out of the Sumlin Sweepstakes — Sumlin to A&M, Fedora to Kansas. #KUfball 49 minutes ago

That would be pretty cool. But as recently as yesterday (a long time ago in this coaching search business!), Tait said he'd put his money on Doeren getting the job, if he had to put money on someone....

goldeneagle31 9 years, 10 months ago

There will be a great chance to watch Fedora tomorrow when USM takes on Houston. ABC, 11:00am CT. As a USM alum living in Lawrence (there are at least two of us here) I pull for KU all the time with the exception of when we played our home and home series. My wife's a KU alum now, so we come by it honest. I do have mixed emotions about all of this. I know Fedora isn't going to stay at Southern Miss, so I guess the next best thing for me is that he comes here. I think KU would be getting an amazing coach. Trust me when I say they don't want to see him go. Anyway, "Rock Chalk Jayhawk," and as we say at USM, "Southern Miss to the Top!"

jay381 9 years, 10 months ago

I knew of him while living in OK. I had not followed him after he left Oklahoma (State). I do know his offenses scarred the heck out of everyone he played in the Big 12 (including the Sooners). The alumni base I interacted with was certainly happy with his time at OSU and did not want to see him leave. I did go to his bio page on the So Miss web site

http://www.southernmiss.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fedora_larry00.html

Although his first HC job is in C-USA he has a lot of experience with teams in BCS Conferences. I really do not see a lot of candidates with 3 years experience at comparable to OSU plus 3 years experience at a program like FL with the success at both programs and 3 years of success at a HC level on the level KU can attract. I also liked his return to the “nasty” defense and yet with a 90% graduation rate.

Sorry for you but I would personally be glad to see him in crimson and blue next fall. I posted several days ago he would be one of my first choices and nothing I have read has changed my mind.

I will say in advance this is a highly ranked Houston team with a great quarterback he will play tomorrow. It might almost be in our interest he does not upset Houston. If he upsets Houston (favored by about 9 pts I think) it will only add to the competition for him. He beat Houston in this same game last year.

jhawkjunkie 9 years, 10 months ago

Looks like Doeren is coaching his way off the top of the list. Bring on Venables!

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 10 months ago

There should be nobody that is sad that Doeren ends up off the list.

Hopefully, it gets uglier, than there is no way SZ could introduce him as the next coach.

What is he going to say...I was so busy interviewing for the KU game, that I forgot to prepare my team?

cmku10 9 years, 10 months ago

This is why we leave it to the professionals to hire the head coach instead of taking a fan vote.

Brian Zachary 9 years, 10 months ago

And then he just coached his way back on it!

Eric Dawson 9 years, 10 months ago

Watching how unprepared NIU seems to be against Frank Solich's Ohio squad (MAC title game) and gotta say that what I'm seeing does not give me any warm fuzzies regarding Doeren. Yeah, it's just one game, but it's their biggest game of the year. 20-0 Ohio at the half.

Jeff Coffman 9 years, 10 months ago

And you wonder why I would be utterly disappointed with a hire like this...TG with less experience.

Kirk 9 years, 10 months ago

In another "just one game", he lost to Gill.

C'mon back to the plains, Frank, and pop a cold one.

bradynsdad 9 years, 10 months ago

I guess doeren saw your post and decided to show you what he can do.

blackhawkjayhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Don't understand the love affair with Stoops. All due credit for building strong defenses at hard-to-recruit places like the U and Florida State, but he won't be sitting in the middle of the strongest recruiting pool in the country if he comes to KU. Fedora and June Jones would be far better choices. And Koetter? Has anyone seen the Jags offense? His record in college was just slightly above average.

My hope is that Z-man closes the sale on Fedora or Jones by Sunday, before A&M comes calling.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 10 months ago

I'm sorry to hear that Sumlin evidently is not interested in KU.

Which is ok, because we don't want an idiot for a coach.......

I suppose he's holding out for some insanely stupid offer like 2mil per year guaranteed for 5 years. Good luck with that one Mister - who in their right mind would make an offer like that ????

bjejayhawk69 9 years, 10 months ago

I hope Sumlin goes to A&M. Don't want him here. Sub .500 without Keenum. Fedora coaching history looks good coming from Texas. He would be first choice. Stoops if he brings his brother as DC. Beyond that I would accept Venables cause I like his fire and experience with OU. Doeren would OK but definitely not 1st choice but he has been DC at Wisconsin and has head coaching experience and if successful may just stay for a long time being a Kansas native.

I have a feeling since the search seems to be taking awhile Fedora and Doeren will be interviewed. Still think Leavitt is in play too.

I do want a younger guy with energy - the players and fans need it.

Coach-Matt Koelling 9 years, 10 months ago

Ohio 20 NIU (Doeren) 0 at halftime...Ohio 20 NIU (Doeren) 23 FINAL...Looks like someone at least knows how to make adjustments at the half...

But really, if we weren't prepared to hire a coach the minute we fired Coach Gill then why not let him have one more year. He's shown he can bring in playmakers (Miller, Pierson, Shepard...also currently have 2 top 25 dual-threat qb's verbally committed). I mean, next season couldn't get any worse than this past one.

ManginoRevenge 9 years, 10 months ago

Doeren would have been there next year if Turner failed again.

He should have gotten one more year, although I'm not sure he would have survived if things turned south early. No butts in the stands is too big of a risk to AD Dept.

The only thing that is going to turn this program around is TIME and $$$ and flat out commitment from everyone, including the fans.

Rip that stupid track out, and get us closer to the field.

Let's do this Zenger...we can win here!

Coach-Matt Koelling 9 years, 10 months ago

Ohio 20 NIU (Doeren) 0 at halftime...Ohio 20 NIU (Doeren) 23 FINAL...Looks like someone at least knows how to make adjustments at the half...

But really, if we weren't prepared to hire a coach the minute we fired Coach Gill then why not let him have one more year. He's shown he can bring in playmakers (Miller, Pierson, Shepard...also currently have 2 top 25 dual-threat qb's verbally committed). I mean, next season couldn't get any worse than this past one.

AzNHawk 9 years, 10 months ago

Dave Doeren? A first year head coach in the MAC? What happened to the last guy we hired from the MAC? Well, he had 4 years of HC experience, 1 winning MAC championship season, but we fired him after two years.

So, does KU go out and get a proven coach with a great track record because we want wins immediately or hire a no head coaching experience, up and coming defensive or offensive coordinator from any of the 120 FBS football programs that are available?

Or should we ask Gill to come back, return the 6 million, let him put his recruited players on the field (No, not just Pierson, Miller, Shepherd), and take part of that 6 million and hire a defensive coordinator along with a great strength and conditioning staff.

The easy part was to fire Gill. The hard seems to getting someone interested in the job and actually signing up for it.

AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

this sounds great the fans wanted mike leach oh no. kans wants to kiss up to south they know right hire im 55 there track record says look out .this a.d, is like turner gill in way over his head .you say once again source tell you were in good hands maybe you check in with k state they probely give him the list.

Mike Barnhart 9 years, 10 months ago

Currently eight BCS jobs are open.

Mangino's name not on any list!!!

Fact: He'll never be Head Coach anywhere else!

AcesWild 9 years, 10 months ago

this sounds great the fans wanted mike leach oh no. kans wants to kiss up to south they know right hire im 55 there track record says look out .this a.d, is like turner gill in way over his head .you say once again source tell you were in good hands maybe you check in with k state they probely give him the list.

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