Charlie Weis goes wild over Ben McLemore 3; Bill Self compared to Vince Lombardi by unlikely source

A few links and videos following Kansas' 97-89 overtime victory over Iowa State on Wednesday ...

I know you've probably seen KU guard Ben McLemore's game-tying three already, but you'll want to look in a different spot the next time you play it.

If you look on the baseline under the basket, KU football coach Charlie Weis (dressed in black) is watching the game from a courtside seat.

And his reaction to the three is pretty spectacular. Definitely worth a look.

• Speaking of the game-tying three, is it possible that McLemore was fouled on the play?

Good nugget from Randy Peterson in the Des Moines Register.

Tyrus McGee did foul Kansas’ Ben McLemore with just more than a second to play Wednesday night.

“The ref just didn’t call it,” Iowa State’s energizer guard said after sixth-ranked Kansas’ super shooter sent the Big12 Conference game into overtime. “I got him on the bottom of his hand. I should have smacked him in the head.”

A lot of talk in Iowa about whether ISU coach Fred Hoiberg should have told his team to foul up three with just over eight seconds left.

The Register's Bryce Miller says he agrees with the decision to not foul, partly because former coach and ESPNU announcer Matt Doherty said he wouldn't have fouled in that situation either.

There's also this snippet:

Iowa State’s Fred Hoiberg decided to play on. Then, Kansas did what Kansas does — in soul-crushing fashion on a banked 3-pointer by Ben McLemore with one second dangling on the clock.

Peterson also has an interesting take in his postgame blog, wondering how the game would have changed if Georges Niang hadn't picked up a technical foul in the first half.

Niang later fouled out in the last minute of regulation.

"And if he’s not sitting the bench on Kansas’ last-second possession," Peterson writes, "coach Fred Hoiberg orders an intentional – non-shooting—foul.

Blogger C.J. Moore does a great job here of diagramming KU's "chop" play, which KU coach Bill Self runs at the end of close games when he needs a three. Moore shows why KU has so many options on the play, and even points out that Mario's Miracle in 2008 was probably the worst-executed chop play of the bunch.'s Jason King was at Allen Fieldhouse, and he left wowed by McLemore's performance.

No KU player under Self -- and, heck, none since Pierce in the late 1990s -- has ever been pegged as a “star." Until now.

King also bumped McLemore up to No. 4 on his latest Wooden Watch player of the year ballot.

A few more highlights of the game from different angles, from KU Athletics. was so impressed with McLemore's 33-point performance that the site moved him to No. 1 on its newest 2013 Mock Draft board.

• And finally, KU's late-game execution was enough to even get Self some praise on Twitter from former Missouri forward Kim English.

Hand off, ball screen, flare screen... Bill Self is like Vince Lombardi. You know what's coming end of game. But it somehow always works.



Geezer 1 year, 3 months ago

In the title game we ran chop on the play that Arthur ends up taking "the worst shot in basketball". We've run it a bunch of times.


Hank Cross 1 year, 3 months ago

Got to give Kim English for that Lombardi reference, and the allusion and the way that everyone knew what Lomabari's teams were going to do.

BMac is star on the rise, but I don't think he is a PP level yet. PP could do it all: passing, shooting, jumping out of the gym, scoring in the post or on the break. He was the best all-round player that I ever saw at KU, including Manning. Too bad Roy favored LaFrentz over him. The options should have been: Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Raef, Pierce.


ArgyleJayhawks 1 year, 3 months ago

Anyone have the radio call handy or know where it is on the internet? Would be cool if KU athletics put the radio call over the highlights like some schools do.


AzHawk97 1 year, 3 months ago

It does seem like there are more options out of the "chop" as opposed to the "weave." If I'm not mistaken every time we ran the weave last night ISU's bench yelled out "Flare!" and had it defended. From there the only way out of that is to reset or flatten out and drive.


David Leathers 1 year, 3 months ago

Jesse, is that Jr. right next to him?


nwhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

Did Releford get away with an illegal screen on that play?


Tony Bandle 1 year, 3 months ago

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Joe Joseph 1 year, 3 months ago

Also, I thought Charlie's reaction was much more dynamic after Ben's and-one layup.


justinryman 1 year, 3 months ago

Kim is a girls name. hahuhahuhahu


LeadFarmer 1 year, 3 months ago

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Joe Joseph 1 year, 3 months ago

After watching it on replay (couldn't watch it live) my reaction was that he was fouled as well. That would make three non-calls on three point attempts in that game. Something that the Mayor coaches perhaps?

Also, I am here to eat crow. I gave up on ku with just under 4 to go. I do like to think that my pessimism helps will ku to victory at times, though. :)


StanHernly 1 year, 3 months ago

clevandjayhawker - You must have missed Ben's two late-game head-fake cross-over dribble moves that ended in open 3's.............. and you must have missed EJ's two late-game drives in the lane. The 0-10 shooting streak in the middle of the second half does fit your description though. ISU came in well prepared and didn't get rattled till overtime; hope we can come out as well in Aimes!


PSM 1 year, 3 months ago

Can't see **** in that video. IDK if Charlie is capable of going wild. Did he wave his cane in the air?


Jonathan Allison 1 year, 3 months ago

Kimmy English giving KU some respect.

He just moved up a couple notches with me.

He's now on notch 2.


Jonathan Allison 1 year, 3 months ago

A pretty good job diagramming the Chop by CJ Miller. It's interesting that in the NC game there was no off-the-ball action and everyone was just watching Mario shoot it.

That game wasn't the first time that we'd used the Chop at the end of a 3 pt contest. I believe that we ran at least two other times previously that season or maybe the previous season, I think that one of them was against Texas in the Big 12 tourney and Chalmer's hit the shot. And another one where Chalmers missed the shot.

But I thought that the flare screen was always a part of it.

Either way, Memphis should have known to expect it in the NC game, and every opponent that ever has us down 2 or 3 points with under 10 on the clock is expecting it. I wonder how many times KU rehearses that play in practice. I am sure they run it to death to make sure that the execution is good should they need it.


Doug Roberts 1 year, 3 months ago

"Goes wild" is a bit of an overstatement, but it's cool to see him there and cheering on the team.


clevelandjayhawker 1 year, 3 months ago

My two negative cents:

Our team doesnt look like the #6 team in the country the last two games. Teams are exsposing what we use to do with ease (lobs, alley-oops, etc) heck they are even cutting off that three man weave we like to run for some reason. BMac is great in tranistion and when a play is set for him to get open, but I want to see him create when he is one on one with the ball and has to do it off the dribble more. What is bothering me is when we need a bucket most we dont feed it inside or drive, we settle for long off balance jumpers. When we are in a drought and the in the bonus why do we look for the three so much? This team needs to do a little better job of knowing the situation and how to work for the right shot, not just force it.

With that said; its early January, we have the best coach in the nation, EJ and Tharpe were driving to the lane and creating at times when we really needed them to, we may have just found our go-to-guy (even if he is a decoy for those last sec shots sometimes), and we are going to be really battle tested if we can get through this conference schedule.

Rock Chalk


Jayhawk470 1 year, 3 months ago

I'm sure Weis wishes he had a football player who could have pulled off a game-tying or game-winning play this past season. Maybe he'll have one in 2013; we'll see, I guess.


osborn_2009 1 year, 3 months ago

is it just me, or can anyone else NOT find Weis in that video? lol. I keep looking but can't find him.


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