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The 2010 "How'd they do against KU" All-Big 12 Team

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It's time for the second annual “How’d they do against KU” All-Big 12 team.

The rules are simple: My squad will consist of the five best players I saw while watching them play against the Jayhawks. For this exercise, Kansas players are ineligible.

This year, with so many candidates, I went ahead and decided to add a HTDAKU second team. At the end, you'll also find honorable mention selections to go with a coach of the year.

Without further ado, here are the selections.

"How'd they do against KU" All-Big 12 first team

MVP — James Anderson, Oklahoma State

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This was a pick made without hesitation. Not only was Anderson the best player on the only team to beat KU this conference season, he also did it under extraordinary circumstances. OSU coach Travis Ford wasn't even sure that Anderson would play early in the day because of back spasms.

Anderson not only gave it a go, he was the best player on the floor, racking up 27 points on 9-for-19 shooting. He was 4-for-6 from three and added eight rebounds, three assists, two blocks and two steals. He also held KU's Marcus Morris to 10 points on the defensive end, which can't be overlooked.

LaceDarius Dunn, Baylor

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I still sometimes wonder how KU didn't lose this game at home to Baylor. The Bears were amazing offensively, and it started with Dunn, who had 27 points on 8-for-14 shooting from the floor and 5-for-8 shooting from three. He also added nine rebounds, two assists and four steals to go with five turnovers. They didn't ask me, but if I had a vote for first-team All-Big 12, I'd have put Dunn (second in Big 12 in scoring, fourth in three-point field-goal percentage) on that list over KU's Sherron Collins.

Damion James, Texas

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Anyone else noticing the pattern of small-forward types giving KU fits? James was spectacular against KU, scoring 24 points on 8-for-13 shooting from the floor and a perfect 4-for-4 shooting from three. He also posted 10 rebounds and had five blocks. He's probably not too popular around these parts because of his postgame comments about Cole Aldrich, but that shouldn't take away from the strong effort he had even when his teammates were struggling around him.

Keiton Page, Oklahoma State

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If James Anderson was beating KU slowly with papercuts, then Keiton Page came in to finish off the Jayhawks with uppercuts. Every shot Page hit against the Jayhawks seemed to come at a time when the Cowboys needed it.

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"Little Mac" Page finished with 15 points on 5-for-6 shooting from the field and a perfect 4-for-4 shooting from three. He also added four assists and two steals to go with three turnovers. Another key was that he held his own defensively against KU's much quicker guards that day.

Fun fact: Page is 1-for-13 (7.7 percent) from three-point range in OSU's two games since the KU game.

Matt Pilgrim, Oklahoma State

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To the victors go the spoils, and OSU receives plenty of love on this list because of its 85-77 upset over KU. To be honest, because of Anderson and Page's impressive performances, the play of Pilgrim didn't stand out to me much during the game. The stats don't lie, though. Pilgrim finished with 18 points on 8-for-8 shooting to go with six rebounds. A perfect shooting night in a winning effort is good enough to get you on the HTDAKU first team.

"How'd they do against KU" All-Big 12 second team

Jacob Pullen, Kansas State

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If Kansas State had been able to knock off KU at Bramlage Coliseum, Pullen probably would have made the first team. He still averaged 21 points, three assists, two steals and just 1.5 turnovers in his two matchups against KU. He made 13 of 29 shots (45 percent) and 7 of 19 threes (37 percent).

J'Covan Brown, Texas

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So who scored the most points against KU all season? That's right, it was Brown, who put in 28 points (including 26 in the second half) against the Jayhawks. Unfortunately for UT, most of his points came when the game was already out of reach.

Jorge Brian Diaz, Nebraska

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The 6-foot-11 freshman center gave KU's Cole Aldrich all sorts of problems in the paint. In his two games against KU, Diaz averaged 17.5 points on combined 16-for-29 shooting (55 percent). In Big 12 play, Diaz's top three scoring games were at KU (20 points), vs. KU (15 points) and vs. Colorado (15 points).

Marcus Relphorde, Colorado

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Here's another guy that seemed to play his best games against the Jayhawks. Relphorde averaged a double-double (17 points, 10 rebounds) in his two games against KU on 14-for-29 shooting from the floor (48 percent) and 3-for-8 shooting from three (38 percent).

Obi Muonelo, Oklahoma State

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KU coach Bill Self singled out the quick Muonelo as a matchup nightmare following KU's loss to OSU. Muonelo scored 17 points on 6-for-13 shooting (46 percent) while adding four rebounds, three assists, a block and a steal to go with just one turnover. Muonelo and Pullen are the only two players to pick up at least second-team honors on the HTDAKU list the last two seasons. I'm sure they're both very proud.

"How'd they do against KU" All-Big 12 honorable mention

Marquis Gilstrap, Iowa State

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Averaged a double-double against KU (14.5 points, 10.5 rebounds), but will be most remembered for his two dunks over Cole Aldrich (and his celebrations afterwards).

Tweety Carter, Baylor

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Posted 17 points and seven assists, and KU was lucky he didn't shoot that well (5-for-13). I'm not sure how you defend him when he has a good shooting night.

Justin Safford, Missouri

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Contributed 19 points and seven rebounds against KU in Lawrence before tearing his ACL later in the year. The Tigers really missed him in the rematch.

David Loubeau, Texas A&M

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Didn't see this one coming. The 6-foot-8 freshman was good offensively (17 points, 7-for-11 shooting, nine rebounds) on a night the rest of the Aggies were bad.

Alec Burks, Colorado

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The Grandview, Mo., native was the best of the Buffs (17 points, 7-for-16 shooting, seven rebounds) during his one game against KU.

Denis Clemente, Kansas State

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Averaged a lot of points against KU (17) but needed a lot of shots to get those points (11-for-30).

Andrew Fitzgerald, Oklahoma

If he walked up to me right now, I wouldn't recognize him (I didn't include his picture; does anyone remember what he looks like?). But his stats against KU (16 points, 8-for-14 shooting, six rebounds) were pretty impressive.

"How'd they do against KU" All-Big 12 Coach of the Year

Travis Ford, Oklahoma State

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As the only Big 12 coach to beat KU this season, Ford gets the nod. Remember, Ford was at a disadvantage in this game, as KU's previous game was on a Monday, while OSU's previous game was on a Wednesday. Ford still had his team ready and fired up to play KU, and it showed. How the undersized Cowboys out-rebounded KU by 10 on that day I'll never know.

Comments

Ace452502 10 years, 2 months ago

Since Oklahoma F Ryan Fitzgerald didn't get a picture, here is a link to his profile on SoonerSports. http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/fitzgerald_andrew00.html

Last year, Fitzgerald was high school teammates with Kansas freshman F Thomas Robinson at Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, NH. Iowa State F Craig Brackins and Texas G Dogus Balbay are fellow Brewster alumni as well.

Joe Joseph 10 years, 2 months ago

I scrolled all the way down without looking at the blog. I'll check after I post to see how they line up.

Here is my first team:

F Damion James (Tex) F James Anderson (OSU) F Matt Pilgrim (OSU) G Lacedarius Dunn (Bay) G Jacob Pullen (KSU)

Second Team:

C Brian Diaz (Neb) F Marcus Relphorde (CU) G J'Covan Brown (Tex) G Keiton Paige (OSU) G Tweety Carter

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 2 months ago

On the Damien James elbow incident, I was watching "Courtside with Seth Davis" last night, and he interviewed the guy who is over all the referees. During the examples of how fouls should be called they showed the clip of Cole/James. The guy said that should not have been a technical or flagrant or whatever they called because James failed to give Cole room to turn. So I guess technically he hit Cole's elbow with his face!

Eric Sorrentino 10 years, 2 months ago

Hey Jesse, interesting stuff! That picture of Little Mac just made my afternoon. When video games were truly at their finest.

CaramelMacchMan 10 years, 2 months ago

I lost respect for Damien James after that incident.

Forget Cole elbowing to James on the face.

I was more interested in when Cole showed sportsmanship toward Damien James, He refused to shake hands.

Absolutely No Class. Because of his attitude I am really judging the School and the Texas Athletics on who they bring... means I have no respect for Texas Longhorns.

Jesse Newell 10 years, 2 months ago

tino — The question is whether I can somehow make the "Little Mac" nickname stick.

justinryman 10 years, 2 months ago

Caramel- I felt the same way about James and the whole Texas team after that incident. It wasn't like Cole was trying to take him out, he was just trying to clear the space. Apparently the Ref's didn't think the free piggy back ride was a fould before that, but hey.

Cole went to help him up, went to shake hands and James acted like a street punk and walked the otherway, that or he was afraid to take another elbow if he got to close.

Then again Class and The Univ. of Texas have never went together.

Eric Sorrentino 10 years, 2 months ago

I definitely see the resemblance. OSU should take notice!

James Stewart 10 years, 2 months ago

I just love the reference to punching/boxing in relationship to Keaton Page. A friend and I independently came up with the thought that he has a face that just makes you want to throw a punch -- and neither of us are at all prone to any kind of punching or violence in general.

Joel Hood 10 years, 2 months ago

jnewell - I don't think Little Mac will stick. Page is actually the Mini-Me of Bryant Reeves - http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/004/907/02F.jpg

Jesse Newell 10 years, 2 months ago

joel — Maybe mini-mini me. I doubt Keiton even weighs half of what Big Coutnry weighed when he was in school ...

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

Joel.....I vote the little red-headed girl from Texas as the best opponent's distraction.

Tyrel Reed's sister would be right up there but we can't vote for our own team members...your rule, not mine!! :}

ChicagoJHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

CaramelMacchMan & justinryman,

I used to say the same thing you guys said but...after I thought about it some more I see both sides. I think the refs made the right call by calling a foul on both of them.

James should have given Cole his space and can't be that close up to him. At the same time, Cole knew he was right there & didn't need to swing his arms around that much. He was also swinging his elbows upward, not sure if all that was necessary.

I don't know if I'd judge the entire school by the actions of 1 player, but that's just me.

Chris1955 10 years, 2 months ago

I finally figured out who Keiton Page reminded me of, besides being the only 12 year old to play college BB in the Big 12. I have to agree with the post about having an overwhelming desire to punch him in the face for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Keiton's face reminds me of Ron Howard (Opie)"s little brother that was either on the old TV show Flipper or Gentle Ben, Clint Howard. I always wanted to shove mud in that kid's mouth. He just annoyed me. I found Sandy Dennis to be the female version of that persona.

Kit Duncan 10 years, 2 months ago

If Cole had been swinging his elbows at shoulder height he might have deserved a technical. Considering how much everybody reaches in on him, using his height and considerable arm length to clear the ball "above" his head is a reasonable thing for Cole to do and he should not be called for a foul (let alone a technical) if James or anybody else leans in that close. I'm sure it hurt to get hit, but James put on a stellar acting job to sell it to the refs. Now... the kid from UCLA is another matter. He got walloped, albeit not intentionally, but his shiner was real.

Kye Clark 10 years, 2 months ago

James is a punk, and he's not the first ther at Texas. Some years ago, back when Roy was coaching here I believe, I have a vague recollection of a Longhorn punching one of our players in the stomach. Anyone else remember that and have any more details?

At any rate, James' college career, while impressive from an individual player standpoint, is no doubt a disappoitment. Never outright winning a regular season conference title, sharing it only once with Kansas in '08. Never winning the conference tournament. Never reaching a Final Four, advancing to the elite eight once in '08 but otherwise never advancing to the second weekend of the tournament. Attaining the number 1 ranking in the polls this year only to stay there one week before eventually tumbling out of the polls all together. This despite playing along side great players like DJ Augustine, AJ Abrams, & Kevin Durant during his career, and despite what was supposed to be a stellar recruiting class this year. Maybe this season's decline should partly be attributed to him. When Kansas lost 6 of it's top 7 players following our National Championship, we still won the league and advanced to the sweet 16. Obviously Rick Barnes is no Bill Self, but having leaders like Cole & Sherron willed last year's team to be as good as it was. Clearly James does not possess that kind of character.

*While it still is possible that Texas can achieve such goals as winning the Big 12 Tournament and performing well in the NCAA tournament, does anyone really think this team will get it together?

CaramelMacchMan 10 years, 2 months ago

Jesse

Dont you think it is little to late for Doppelganger week? ( i'm talking about your profile image )

Jesse Newell 10 years, 2 months ago

Caramel — It's never too late. And thanks for implying that there's a resemblance.

Sweet_Sandbags 10 years, 2 months ago

Lil Mac will go down when he meets the Sandman in a rematch!

I coulda been someone...I coulda been a contender!

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

If it wasn't for James being rescued off the streets by a friends' mother a few years back we never would have heard of him because he'd either be dead or in jail. Cut him some slack. In the heat of battle he didn't respond in the way that we expect someone to do. It wasn't the worst thing I've seen by a long shot.

VegasJhawk09 10 years, 2 months ago

Ok so this is off the topic but its still KU.

posted Nov. 28 - originally, this is the road to the NCAA championship. Im basically copying the ranks of the top ten, adding their offensive and defensive ranks according to the AP, plus now Im adding # of players averaging over 15 min per game, # of those averaging 45% or better from the field + how many come close to it and how many average 10 points or better per game + how many come close to it within 3 pts/ game. Then finally Im adding the Kenpom (www.kenpom.com) offensive and defensive rating of each team AND the average years of experience. Its complicated, I know but it seems to work for me as far as trying to predict the final four teams and who will come out on top. I am slightly biased toward the Jayhawks but I didnt pick them to win it last year, they have a great great chance to do it this year for the 2nd time in 3 years.

1 KU - 5th / 49th , 8 , 6+2 , 4+4 , #2 , #5 , 1.43yrs

2 UK - 16th / 91st, 7+1 ,6+1 , 4+2 , #21 , #14 , 0.85yrs

3 'cuse- 7th/103rd, 7+1 ,6+1 , 4+2 , #10 , #16 , 1.65yrs

4 Duke- 20th/36th, 7+1 ,4+4 , 3+4 , #1 , #3 , 1.99yrs

5 OHst- 28th/19th, 5+3, 4+3 , 4+2 , #12 , #22 , 2.01yrs

6 Prdu- 97th/23rd, 7+1, 5+1, 3+2 , #38 , #4 , 1.86yrs

7 Wvu- 57th/76th, 6+1, 4+2, 4+1 , #7 , #28 , 1.78yrs

8 NMx- 36th/127th, 7 , 3+3, 4+1 , #24 , #72 , 2.40yrs

9 KSU- 14th/177th, 6+1, 5+1, 4+1 , #22 , #21 , 1.69yrs

10 'Nova- 3rd/252nd, 7+2 , 5+3, 3+4 , #8 , #56 , 1.59yrs

Notes : Question, when was the last time that a team won the NCAA with offensive and Defensive ratings greater than 20th over all? The past 5 years that I can remember, each team that has won it all has been in the top 15th over all in both categories. The only two teams that have close to that right now are KU and Duke with Syracuse & Kentucky not too far behind. Another thought, KU's '08 team with Chalmers, Robinson and Collins off the bench in the back court were the best in the country and they were loaded with seniors that year too, something they lack this year but, they are very talented, deep and balanced. Do they have the experience and the killer instinct to win it all this year? That is a concern of Coach Self, and us all...

I am going to make an early prediction of KU Syracuse Kentucky and Duke for the final4. Elite 8- those four plusOhio St, Purdue, KSU and West Virginia with MSU as my sleeper. 2008 was the year KU won it all, can they do it again this year? I think they have a great great chance.

hawkward1 10 years, 2 months ago

Keiton Page reminds me of the robotic-toy with the evil-looking baby head in Toy Story 1, personified, then minus one chromosome. And yes, as previously mentioned by many, you just want to punch it - repeatedly, until it (or he, or whatever it is) can do no more harm. He's the other-worldly figure that your primal urges first reaction is to exterminate, without hesitation, after catching just a glimpse. Like an unwanted pest > "arghhh, step on that thing!"

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