Perry Ellis one of few positives for KU against Baylor


Perry Ellis (34) splits defenders for a layup in KU's 81-58 loss to the Baylor Bears Saturday in Waco.

Perry Ellis (34) splits defenders for a layup in KU's 81-58 loss to the Baylor Bears Saturday in Waco. by Mike Yoder

1. Ben McLemore: The freshman's best road game ended up being his last one. McLemore led KU with 23 points on 8-for-16 shooting, which included 5-for-9 shooting from three-point range. A few of those threes were impressive too, including one where he jumped to catch a pass from the lane, landed, and immediately sprung up to drain a three. McLemore added three rebounds and two assists but also had a team-high four turnovers.

2. Perry Ellis: If you're looking for a positive for KU, Ellis was definitely it. The freshman easily had his best game in Big 12 play, looking sure of himself offensively against a good shot-blocking team in Baylor. The freshman finished with 12 points on 5-for-7 shooting with three rebounds, two assists, one steal and no turnovers in 22 minutes.

3. Jeff Withey: One of KU coach Bill Self's frustrations after the game was that Withey was only able to get three shots up. The senior made all of them, posting eight points with eight rebounds in 34 minutes. While battling foul trouble, Withey had a few nice defensive stretches, adding four blocks to go with an assist and two turnovers.

4. Elijah Johnson: After three great games, Johnson struggled Saturday, making just three of 13 shots and one of six threes. He finished with 10 points, two assists and three turnovers, but his biggest issues were on the defensive end, where he was one of a few Jayhawks who couldn't do anything to keep Baylor guard Pierre Jackson in front of him.

5. Travis Releford: Releford has now scored two points or less in two Big 12 games: at TCU and at Baylor. When he doesn't score, KU usually doesn't play well. Releford contributed just two points on 1-for-6 shooting, adding three rebounds and two assists to go with two turnovers. Like Johnson, he wasn't able to slow down Pierre Jackson defensively.

6. Jamari Traylor: Missed a shot, but had two rebounds, an assist and a block in six minutes.

7. Kevin Young: The senior was shut out for the first game this season. He never seemed to get into the game after picking up two early fouls, missing both of his field-goal attempts, which included an alley-oop. Young also had two rebounds and a turnover in 15 minutes.

8. Naadir Tharpe: The sophomore didn't give KU a boost when he went in, making just one of six field goals for two points. He had an assist and no turnovers in 13 minutes.

9. Justin Wesley: Had a foul and no other stats in two minutes.

10. Rio Adams: Made one of four free throws and had a turnover and two rebounds in two minutes.

11. Andrew White III: Missed both three-pointers he attempted and had a foul in two minutes. Season Standings
1. Jeff Withey (251 points)
2. Ben McLemore (238 points)
3. Travis Releford (226 points)
4. Kevin Young (186 points)
5. Elijah Johnson (176 points)
6. Naadir Tharpe (155 points)
7. Perry Ellis (135 points)
8. Jamari Traylor (100 points)
9. Andrew White III (50 points)
10. Rio Adams (34 points)
11. Justin Wesley (22 points)

Big 12 Standings
1. Jeff Withey (160 points)
2. Ben McLemore (149 points)
3. Travis Releford (141 points)
4. Kevin Young (127 points)
5. Elijah Johnson (100 points)
6. Naadir Tharpe (94 points)
7. Perry Ellis (83 points)
8. Jamari Traylor (59 points)
9. Andrew White III (27 points)
10. Rio Adams (19 points)
11. Justin Wesley (15 points)


mikehawk 6 years, 8 months ago

Not sure what has happened to AWIII's shot. Probably the forced work in other areas takes away from the shooting confidence, at least for now. Not the first freshman to experience that at KU. I've hoped Rio would return and still hope he does. But this young man appears to struggle with maturity. He'll either grow up at KU, or he'll have to do it somewhere else. It might as well be under Bill Self at KU.

Tonight was a classic second round game in the NCAA. Team loose with nothing to lose and a guard shooting lights out. We fall behind and can't get over the hump You are going to have one or more of those games and you have to find a way to win. We didn't tonight. A backed in championship shared with KSU. Just planted a big fat kiss on my sister. Yuk! The real season starts now.

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

Not quite a "backed-in championship" considering we had just won seven straight and swept K-State.

Kevin Studer 6 years, 8 months ago

Perry looked really good. I think we can expect big things from him next year, similar to Thomas Robinson's and Cole Aldrich's leap in year 2.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 8 months ago

Baylor is not a physical team. Perry will excel in those games. Hopefully, he continues to grow and can translate the ability to physical games as well in the future.

Kye Clark 6 years, 8 months ago

That move Perry had where he caused 2 Baylor defenders to fall down was sick! Hopefully he can use this performance to spring board him to a great post season.

Will Babbit 6 years, 8 months ago

I noticed they've stopped calling AWIII a "pure shooter". Bout time...

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 8 months ago

First game Ellis looked like he can be an elite D1 performer.

Jim Erickson 6 years, 8 months ago

Great to hear! I'm still high on the kid but I thought it would come earlier for him.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

I wanna know how yhe hell Jeff Withey only had 3 shot attempts (5 or 6 unofficially) against that toothpick Isaiah Austin. This was the Jeff Withey from 2 years ago that got bullied by everyone. Withey should've had 15+ shot attempts tonight with Austin on him. Poor execution by KU by not pounding the post and taking advantage of Austin's lack of size was baffling to me. Perry Ellis was the best player to me today. I know McLemore had better stats, but his defense was absent today and Ellis was good today on defense and very aggressive on offense.

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

Withey needs some cool goggles like Austin.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 8 months ago

Whey or Ellis would have been playing D on Jefferson. Not sure how anyone can be highly rated when their D-assignment shoots 80%.

Michael Luby 6 years, 8 months ago

The Seniors got their butts kicked by Baylor. Im glad our Freshmen had good games.

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

Last night's game against Baylor looked like they had not practiced the entire week. They focus for k-state and texas (and missouri in the old days) and phone it in for everyone else. Coach needs to get a sports psychologist involved soon to make it through the post season, or he will be wondering why his prized future recruits go somewhere else.

okjhok 6 years, 8 months ago

Won't call you dumb, but that's a dumb comment

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

What's dumb about it? It's a truthful observation.

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

Uh, we're going to have a 1 or 2 seed in the tourney and we just won a 9th straight Big 12 title, yet you're saying this team is a train wreck that needs a shrink and the program will never draw any more prized recruits, all because of one loss in a game that we didn't need? Chill out, dude.

LAJayhawk 6 years, 8 months ago

I wouldn't call you or your comment dumb, as it's simply an opinion based on an honest observation. However, I also disagree with the sentiment. We are a (legitimate) top 10 team who will be a number 1 or 2 seed depending on the conference tourney. And to say "his prized future recruits [will] go somewhere else" is just plain silly. Even without Wiggins or Randle, we STILL have the #2 recruiting class in the country according to basically every recruiting service out there. If you simply mean Wiggins and Randle, then fine, but this class will be absolutely excellent either way (although, it will be close to legendary with one or both of those guys).

So, yeah, I do understand your frustration and where you are coming from, but... calm down just a bit.

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

And why would Wiggins or Randle or any other recruit make their decision based on one loss to Baylor, or even an early-round tourney loss if that happens this year? Is Duke losing recruits because they went down in the first round last year and got blown out by Miami and Virginia this year? What program hasn't gone through things like that?

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

I thought the Big 12 was weak this year compared to the past. Gonzaga beat #2 and 3 and I really think could beat us too. We would finish in the middle of the Big 10 if in that league. We would be unranked near UNC in the ACC.

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

Are you a cheer leader? I'm making honest observations. Unless this team wakes up, they won't make Sweet 16.

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

We went into Columbus, Ohio and decisively beat the Buckeyes. The only other team that won there all year was Indiana. So how exactly would we be "middle of the pack" in the Big 10? And how on earth do you get "unranked" in the ACC? What does that even mean?

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

We lost to all but one ranked team. MSU was ranked #21 when we lost to them. All our other losses came to unranked teams when we played them.

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

I don't know if you've been watching much college basketball this year, but everyone has been losing to unranked teams -- partly because there's no dominant team, partly because the rankings have been so fluid from week to week that there have probably been 60 different teams in the Top 25 this year. Sure, we've lost to unranked teams, like Oklahoma State earlier in the season; we've also beaten a lot of ranked teams, like Oklahoma State later in the season. It's not a particularly meaningful distinction.

jaybate 6 years, 8 months ago

Its pretty clear that the Big 12 is massively underrated this year.

When ever there is a big influx of freshman playing, the Big 12 is automatically ignored, where as the big market conferences with EST footprints always get the same hype. This is just media SOP to keep the register running. Sell EST sizzle every year. Sell Big12 steak when its returning and proven. This is why all the media guys so badly misread that KU would walk away with the Big 12 this year. They tend to underestimate the quality of the incoming freshman. They can attract more eyeballs with EST sizzle than CST sizzle, so they only hype the team with returning strength in the heart of America.

Green teams mostly fair poorly in pre-conference and then come on strong down the stretch. The Big 12 is taking a rap for a poor pre-conference, but it was to be expected. But the Big 12 teams will surprise everyone as they do in these kinds of years.

Pretty much every Big 12 team but TCU and Tech has a draft choice or two.

KU has two lotteries.

OSU has 1 lottery and probably two low first rounds in Brown and Cobbins.

KSU has MacGruder.

ISU has one but can't recall his name.

OU has one.

And so on.

Under rating the Big 12 is always good for creating unrealistic betting expectations on the east coast, so that sheep can then be sheared IMHO.

Nice work, if you can get it.

AirCapJay 6 years, 8 months ago

We shall see. I'm really wondering if any Big 12 team will make it past Sweet 16.

JayHawkFanToo 6 years, 8 months ago

Put Gonzaga in one of the top 6 leagues and they will have a lot more losses. Put any of the top 5 Big 12 teams in the West Coast Conference and they finished in the top 2.

texasdochawk 6 years, 8 months ago

Dude, what are you smokin? The top tier Big 10 schools would have a difficult time staying .500 in the Big 12...wait till March Madness and we will see

Robert Brock 6 years, 8 months ago

Face it: the seniors just couldn't make themselves care. I hope they can get their mojo back; otherwise, the Hawks are going down big time!

jaybate 6 years, 8 months ago

Perry should have played for both Kevin and Jeff yesterday.

First game I can say that.

Keep getting better Perry.

Redezvous with destiny.

Tape it to your locker.

Chris Bailey 6 years, 8 months ago

Come on football! Just kidding! Although I am looking forward to year 2 of CW and company! I sure hope AWIII doesn't leave. He will be a great player and should get more minutes next season. I hate when players leave but we all know that egos are big in these kids. I hope we decide to play ball the next 8 or so games I would be pretty happy if we played 8 more games :)

hawk_of_ages 6 years, 8 months ago

Why do we have to bring up the specter of transferring every time a freshman doesn't get much PT? He shouldn't transfer and there's no reason to think he would.

Jake Smucker 6 years, 8 months ago

When Relly isn't scoring, that means we aren't running, and that means we aren't getting it done on the defensive end. Very few takeaways and blocks and rebounds that we were able to convert to transition baskets. Only 3 steals all game and we got out-blocked for probably the first time all season.

LAJayhawk 6 years, 8 months ago

We were a mess on offense, but we were absolutely atrocious on defense. When we play smothering D, we ALWAYS play better offense, as we are ALWAYS out and running. Yes, give some serious credit to Baylor for knocking down shots (a LOT of shots), but we did basically nothing to deter it. Pierre got to the lane literally anytime he wanted, and could pick and choose which wide open teammate he wanted to dish it off to... when he wasn't scoring at will. Our perimeter defense has been the weakest part of our D all year, but yesterday, it's like it didn't show up at all. And don't even get me started on the horrendous post feeds we tried to make. It's hard for our footer to get more than 3 shots when we don't give him the ball (which is also largely on him for not positioning up well, either).

And for all the very good things BMac did, and as aggressive (yay!) as he was, those 4 turnovers were just deadly. They pretty much all came at the worst possible times on really bad mistakes, and I'm pretty sure at least 3 of them lead directly to layups on the other end. You can forgive them to a degree, because he was trying to create and be aggressive, but.... man... they were just killer turnovers.

joshuamc914 6 years, 8 months ago

Lol I love the morning/afternoon after a loss because it shows how many fake fans there really is smh. Calling Bull Self's gameplan terrible, saying certain are terrible, questioning ayers hearts lol. Oh man stop the whining we lost it happens man a team gets hot with their guard going crazy and a big has the game if his life it happens stop acting like this has never happened in previous years smh. All the times Jacon Pullen lit up Kansas c'mon man it happens once a year stop complaint saying te sky is falling smh. It's one loss that means nothing to the main goals of a season which is winning a championship. We lost to Bayloe in the Big XII semis last tee and every1 was like of this team is no good and it will lose in the first round blah blah blah. Some of you fans are so spoiled its sickening. I'm not worried Bill Self will push the right buttons and come tournament time we will have a chance to win it all. I don't worry about games like this because in every season there are bumps I'm the road you will lose games. Everytime kansas loses its always the end of the world, we suck, overrated, would be middle of the road in Big 10 shut up. Do me a favor when this team wins the Big XII tourney next week please all you are fans dont jump back on the bandwagon was so real fans can have some leg room on the bandwagon ok.

JayHawkFanToo 6 years, 8 months ago

I hope KY does not get the 'fro trimmed before the end of the season. Did not work well getting it trimmed before the Baylor game.

brutus 6 years, 8 months ago

I think Perry Ellis is going to really blossom but I want to see him dunk the ball at some point. Has he dunked this year?

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