Advertisement

Advertisement

The Recruits

I haven't blogged on here in probably close to a year, but I figured I would take a look at next year's KU recruiting class while we are having fun rolling to another Big 12 title. I'm going to ignore possible additions to the class right now and just focus on the guys we have - Conner Frankamp, Wayne Selden, Joel Embiid, Frank Mason and Brannen Greene. I really like this class as it's currently constructed. If we add a PF type, that's icing, but there's plenty of cake to go around with this group.

Greene 6-7, 200, SG/SF - I think he's more of a "pure shooter" than a "pure scorer", but my goodness is that jumper pretty to look at. If you think McLemore's jumper is picturesque, wait for Brannen to show up in the Phog. The release is high, it's consistent, he finishes it nicely, he can catch and shoot or hit it off the bounce. I can't say enough good things about his shot. Now for what he's not. He's not a slasher. He can put it on the floor, but that's not his game. He's a shooter first, which is awesome, especially when you can stroke the jumper like he can. He's not super athletic, more of a smooth athlete than an explosive one, but his size and length should make him an adequate defender, particularly in college where he will see guys much smaller than he is. He won't blow by guys and dunk in traffic, but he could be the type of guy to hit 6 threes in a game. He will benefit from Hudy, as he's not a big kid right now and that will help him quite a bit.

Mason 5-11, 160, PG - He's a scoring PG, which is worrisome considering his size. He's quick and has the ability to finish, but his size makes me wonder how that will translate in college. He has good vision and seems to be very efficient with his shots and decision making. He's a good pace PG, meaning he knows how to push the ball without being out of control, and he can find his teammates in transition. Because he's such a scorer in HS, it's hard to figure how he would run an offense where he is not the primary scorer. He looks to have the handles and vision for it, but that's not really his role right now. I wish he were more of a ball hawk because at his size he can't just settle for being an okay on ball defender. He has the quickness to do so, but that type of thing requires a commitment that he hasn't been asked to make to this point.

Embiid 7-0, 220, C - Easily the guy I am most excited about because of his height, agility, balance and athleticism. He's a 7 footer that moves like a 6-7 guy. That's a huge compliment. Whereas most 7 footers lose some of their agility as they grow, he's similar to Hakeem Olajuwon not in skill, but in that he moves like a much smaller player. His skills are very raw, but that's to be expected for someone that has only been playing ball for a year. He should be an exceptional shotblocker right away. Offensively, his game is limited to dunks and short hooks, with a developing jump shot, but I think he will develop very quickly as he learns the game. Physically all of the skills are there, but he has to shape those into a basketball skill set. If anyone would have benefited from a year under Danny Manning, it would have been him, but that ship has sailed. Still, I see him as a very good defender right away (maybe even a great one with his agility) and a decent offensive player eventually. Hudy is probably excited to get to work with such a raw athlete like Embiid. If his work ethic is high, he may only be in Lawrence 2-3 years, but he will leave as a lottery pick.

Selden 6-5, 225, SG - Most on this board will cringe when I make this comparison, but this is a big compliment from me - Selden seems to be a bigger, stronger version of Josh Selby. The Selby I saw coming out of high school was quick, explosive, powerful, strong, great vision and shooting range and absolutely would rise up and cram on any defender foolish enough to challenge his attacks. Selden has all of the same tools and elements to his game - the explosiveness, the quickness, the range, the handles, the power, the vision - but he's 6-5, 225. He's a load on the perimeter. Unlike Greene, he absolutely will dunk on somebody's head in traffic. I think he looks to do that quite a bit, actually. He also reminds me a bit of Lance Stephenson in that his strength creates space that most others can't create for themselves. He could be an exceptional pure scorer. Obviously those tools should make him an exceptional defender, but the commitment on that end will take time and Bill Self coaching.

Frankamp 6-0, 160, PG - He can flat out fill it up. At the high school level, he's probably the most accomplished scorer in this group. He can shoot it, he can drive it, he can flat out put the ball in the basket. My concerns for him mirror my concerns about Frank Mason. At his size, can he do that in college? Similar to Mason, can he adapt from being the primary option to the primary distributor? He's a good passer, so I think it's likely he can, and will with the talent that will surround him here at KU. That leaves my only concern being his defense. His HS plays a ton of zone, so he doesn't have to guard the ball a whole lot. Obviously that will change in college. He's got a good hoops IQ and quick hands, so I think he should be a solid defender, maybe even an above average one, but again, his size will be at issue on that end against bigger guards, although with the size KU should have next year on the perimeter, that is much less an issue than it could otherwise be.

Comments

jross1972 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Like your analysis. Thanks for the blog entry JAF! I'll just add that I think it's important to look at next years' class of POTENTIAL recruits. We desperately need to add one of the following forwards for a presence in the paint: Andrew Wiggins, Aaron Gordon, or Julius Randle. All three are on KYs radar, which is precisely why they wont all end up there. I imagine that KY "may" be all three's first choice. However, one realizes you can only slice a pie so many ways. It just so happens that Kansas is on all three's radars as well, and so I think Coach Self may pick up another major commitment before this recruiting class is in the books. And we'll need to. Pending other potential additions, Kentucky's class coming in next year may be the best yet for a Calipari-coached team.

0

justanotherfan 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I can't see UK getting any of those guys, honestly. They've already signed 2 SG's, a PG, a C and 2 PF's. They can only sign one more guy, and I doubt its another PF. Calipari might grab another guy, but he doesn't have enough minutes for the guys he already has signed, plus his likely returners (Wiltjer, Cauley-Stein, Harrow) if he signs a guy that is a likely starter. That UK class is nasty though.

I'm betting Wiggins goes to Florida State, Gordon goes to Arizona and Randle goes to Texas, but I am usually wrong about these types of things.

0

jross1972 3 months, 3 weeks ago

One of those three will end up a wildcat and then, as often happens, other players get concerned about PT and find interest elsewhere. Id give Kansas a 50-50 shot at landing ONE of those three. I guarantee Bill Self is pressing the case that they have a chance to play a lot of minutes in a high-profile program that gets a lot of attention and sends a lot of players to the pros. That BETTER be his angle!

0

jaybate 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JAF,

Nice dish on the recruits. My adds are:

Greene--never enough trey artists. But a few have said his defense is farther behind than AW3's at the same time.

Mason--Self has learned with the recent run of long guards that he has to be able to go shorter sometimes, and guards get hurt, so backups are a must. Mason will learn from Dir, then plug into his role when Dir graduates.

Embiid--I saw only a little footage of him, but he is what I think: he's one of the best big man prospects in terms of athleticism that I've ever seen. Period. It comes down to whether he can take a course in basketball fundamentals and get an A, or only a C, or D. No one can know the answer to that now. Worst case you've got a Dikembe Mutombo that can really run and move. Best case is you've got a future Hall of Famer. He has so much athleticism for a footer, only a moron wouldn't take a chance on him.

Selden--I believe Selden will have the kind of impact on the team and draft freaks his sophomore year that Ben McClemore is having this season. I don't know where he will play. Notice I said sophomore year. He will play quite as a frosh, but he won't blossom till sophomore season. I know I want him to play PG, but it looks like there may be too many PGs--Dir, Mason, and Frankamp--for him to get a look.

0

jaybate 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Frankamp--To be "frank" about Frank, until I saw some recent feeds from the game he got his bell rung in, I just saw him as a spot up shooter in D1. But in those feeds, I looked for what Self has called "sneaky fast" and I saw it TWICE. It is the kind of quickness only great athletes have, and it is the kind of quickness a six footer has to have to play D1. I would go so far as to say he has the kind of quickness John Stockton had. Bottomline, however, quite a few guys have that kind of quickenss and never rise to the next level. Stockton was a ferocious competitor that would do almost anything to get an edge on an opponent. Even big powerful guards dreaded playing Stockton in the NBA. He was the ultimate combination of lightening quickness and ruthless. He was so quick and so dirty when he decided to be that there was no way you could avoid him wrecking you. And when you went to try to get even, he was such a fabulous and quick athlete, 9 times out of 10 he could avoid the harm you were trying to bring him, and he wasn't afraid of taking brutal treatment on the 10th time, because he would just dish it back five fold. I haven't seen enough of Conner to know if he has that sort of personality. This kind of quickness Stockton and Conner have is rare. But the personality Stockton had is even more rare. It would take that kind of personality for Conner to go much beyond a Jeff Boeshee. But it could happen.

This class is very peculiar. It has the potential to be Self's best by a considerable margin, if these guys were to reach their full potentials. But outside of Selden, whom I believe has a lock on being exceptional, it could be very mediocre if they don't.

P.S.: I reckon Self will get one more.

0

justanotherfan 3 months, 3 weeks ago

To be Self's best class, they have to be better than the 2005 class of Rush, Chalmers, Wright and the forgotten Micah Downs. Downs obviously was a disappointment and transferred. Wright only stayed two years, but Rush and Chalmers were the catalysts behind a national title.

The 2008 class would have to be next, with Tyshawn Taylor, the Morris twins, Travis Releford and Quintrell Thomas. Thomas transferred, but again, strong class and Releford and Taylor helped get us to the national title game.

For the 2013 class to be on that level, they need at least 3 of the group to be highly productive at KU, and they need to get to at least a FF during their careers.

0

jaybate 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Totally agree with how high the standard to meet or beat is.

But add either Randle, or Wiggins, and have Embiid develop into a super star his third season, and have Frankamp pan out and could/would may BE.

0

Commenting has been disabled for this item.