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Wall receives money, Cousin's speaks to Calipari during non-contact Periods, and now Eric Bledsoe !

John Wall violated NCAA rule sby receiving pay for play benefits from his AAU Coach. Proven.

Demarcus Cousins admited on camera to being in contact with Coach Calipari during league mandated non-contact periods. Proven.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5231161

Eric Bedsoe, You're Next.

Apparently, Eric Bledsoe couldn't return to Lexington even if he wanted to next season. NOt that it matters, at thispoint he is a lottery pick and will likely be selected to play basketball for millions of dollars anyway.

Let's go over a few of the Specifics....

The investigation is centered on Bledsoe's high school transcripts, payments made for an apartment shared by him and his mother, and whether his high school coach in Birmingham, Ala., demanded money from schools recruiting him, according to the story on the newspaper's website.

Waaaaait a minute.....

On May 28, the Memphis Commercial Appeal obtained the letter through the Freedom of Information Act and released it. Although the player's name was redacted due to privacy laws, process of elimination and sources revealed the player as Derrick Rose. The next day in a separate investigation, James Sullivan, Inspector General of the Chicago Public Schools district's Board of Education, released a report of his investigation stating that four student-athletes of a CPS school had one-month grade boosts to alter their college transcripts.[48] The Chicago Sun-Times revealed the school as Simeon Career Academy and that three of the four were Rose and his former teammates Kevin Johnson and Tim Flowers, prominent members of the back-to-back championship teams.[48] The newspaper claimed that Rose's grade was changed from a D to a C.[48] Another part of the report stated that "high school staff lost the original permanent records for three of the above mentioned students athletes" (including the unknown four).[49] Sullivan started the investigation because "none of the grade changes were supported by any documentation”. He also failed to find a suspect as "at least seven people at Simeon had the ability to access student grades and records".[48] Illinois High School Association (IHSA) executive director Marty Hickman reacted by saying, "It is obvious that this is worth taking a look into".[49] Robert Smith, who coached the Wolverines from 2004 to 2007, denied any wrongdoing.[48] District spokeswoman Monique Bond said the students involved probably didn't know about the grade change.

i knew this sort of thing sounded famaliar. John Calipari involving himself in the recruitment of a kid who might OR MIGHT NOT qualify and letting him play anyway.

So, while we wait for the NCAA to penalize Calipari ( i"m not holding my breath, by any means ) for his involvement with Derrick Rose and Robert Dozier at Memphis. We are now awaiting on the on going investigations on John Wall, and Demarcus Cousins.... Now we have a NEW channel to watch, Call it KRSN ( Kentucky Recruitment Scandal Network ) 4, Eric Bledsoe and his falsified grades in high school.

As always, debate, converse.....

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Comments

DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

That's your prerogative. Unfortunately, to be taken seriously when making a claim, the burden of proof is the claimant. I've made my claims and I've backed them up with reliable sources and the actual rules.

You say Cousins broke rules. Show me the rule he broke. Show me the violation. You're making the claim. The burden is on you to support your claim with facts, not conjecture. Can you do that?

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

Stand by my original word.....

WHy would Demarcus cousin's need to back track..... Because he wasn't supposed to be talking to calipari....

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DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

You can repeat yourself all you want, but you're still wrong about Cousins calling Cal or Cal calling Cousins being a violation. I'll go ahead and link sources as to why.

Here is the recruiting Calendar for NCAA Men's Division I Basketball.

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/AMA/recruiting_calendars/2010/DI/Text/MBasketball.pdf

Note that it has 4 periods listed: Contact, Evaluation, Quiet, Dead. There is NO SUCH THING as a complete no contact period.

Now, here are the definitions for those periods FROM THE NCAA website. Please do pay particular attention to the last sentence of each paragraph.

Contact Period During this time, a college coach may have in-person contact with you and/or your parents on or off the college's campus. The coach may also watch you play or visit your high school. You and your parents may visit a college campus and the coach may write and telephone you during this period.

Evaluation Period The college coach may watch you play or visit your high school, but cannot have any in-person conversations with you or your parents off the college's campus. You and your parents can visit a college campus during this period. A coach may write and telephone you or your parents during this time.

Quiet Period The college coach may not have any in-person contact with you or your parents off the college's campus. The coach may not watch you play or visit your high school during this period. You and your parents may visit a college campus during this time. A coach may write or telephone you or your parents during this time.

Dead Period The college coach may not have any in-person contact with you or your parents at any time in the dead period. The coach may write and telephone you or your parents during this time.

Now, if Bill Self talked to Wall in-person during a quiet or dead period, yes, that would be a violation. Simply making a phone call is not a violation.

Oh, and Sampson was in trouble for making phone calls above and beyond the number allowed.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

David.... DC, there ARE specific periods that a coach cannot contact... that's why self got slapped on the wrist for talking to John Wall last year at an event they BOTH attended....

If Calipari dropped a call during one of those times ( which is what Demarcus alluded too ) then he should have been slapped on the wrist TOO.... this is why sampson was so fond of the text message because it was a LOOPHOLE In the " NO CONTACT" Period..... You cannot call, but the rule said you CAN text which got amended after the sampson issue at Okalhoma.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself.....

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DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

Clifton gave up his agent's license in August 2008, almost a year before Wall arrived at Kentucky, and well before Calipari was even a thought at Kentucky.

Source: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/oct/23/wall-sidney-have-issues-on-eligibility/

And once again, on Cousins, you've yet to show why him saying he talked to Calipari, or even the act of talking to Calipari on the phone is a violation of any sorts. There is no completely silent period in NCAA recruiting. A coach can call a recruit once a week during the strictest of periods, and a recruit can call a coach a million times in any period if they like. Whether you think he acted guilty, or if he even stripped on national TV, is irrelevant. So please, what violation did Cousins commit if he called Calipari or Calipari called him?

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

David,

Are you suggesting that John Wall, a year from making at least 40 million dollars, only received 800 bucks from an agent ? See, that's just common sense telling me. There's more. Those with the power to should be LOOKING.

Camby and Rose couldn't be denied, that's why they are obviously guilty. The NCAA pretty well went after them, and they did their job with the exception of pinning down John.

As for the rest, People have found solid evidence but the NCAA hasn't investigated, or investigations haven't been released.

Dozier took what 3 Sat's and couldn't pass in Georgia, but remarkable passed when it came to Calipari in Memphis ? And not only PASS, he made huge improvements. We have seen already that Derrick Rose had someone take the exam for him with similiar results.... all we need to do is LOOK and prove that dozier wasn't guilty. the evidence says he is.

Cousin's said it on Camera, that's proof. He was answering a question thrown out by the Media, and then he immediately squirmed away from what he said, because he knew what he just did. That's guilty.

Hell, I even remember seeing that Tyreke Evans had some issues.

Sampson gets fired for texting people too much, and someone like Calipari has all this chaos around him and yet, he's innocent ????

Kentucky can keep the wins, they can Keep the Sweet Sixteen run, I just want Calipari out of COllege Basketball.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

Lastly, CLifton was the reason Wall was suspended.

Can we split the difference and say Clifton gave up his International Agent's liscense after Wall was IN Kentucky, and had already received his benefit moneys ? He no longer needs an international Liscense if John Wall is playing a year at Kentucky.

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DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

I never said no one was guilty. Wall obviously received benefits from someone with an agent title, which is why it was an issue--simply because Clifton had an agent license during that time period (he did surrender it. A simple search would show you this). AAU coaches can pay for expenses of their players. It's no different from a high school/college paying for the travel expenses of an athlete. However, to state he must have received more because the low amount "doesn't make sense" lacks one thing: proof. So you can say he received impermissible benefits, which, as you said, amounted to a month of working at Burger King, but that's all that is shown.

You've yet to show how Cousin's calling Calipari or vice versa during a dead period is a violation, which is a far cry from saying "proven."

Lastly, you're right is doesn't mean anyone's not guilty, however, you can easily say, at least with the unproven claims (Camby and Rose are obviously guilty), that it doesn't mean they are guilty either.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

OK, so SIdney was a seperate story, i remember reading before the season the two were linked, maybe it was poor reporting ..... still doesn't mean Wall's not guilty....Cousin's isn't guilty.... Bledsoe's not guilty.... Rose wasn't guilty.... Dozier wasn't guilty..... Marcus Camby wasn't guilty..... and yet this all happened under the supposed unknowing and watchful eye of One John Vincent Calipari.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

He was suspended by the NCAA from Kentucky's first exhibition game and first regular season game, for travel benefits he received from his AAU coach, Brian Clifton, who was a certified agent at the time.

got this from wikipedia who cited, an AP article..... which no longer exists ( not the greatest source ever but still :)

If Clifton WASN'T an Agent, then Wall wouldn't have had to sit out the two games for the penalty.... I never believed the amount of money that switched hands, it just doesn't make sense.... It had to be more, really... 800 bucks ???? come on... he coulda gotten that being John Wall at BUrger king for a month.....

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

David... Your wrong about Clifton and the agent thing. He did not surrender his international liscense, incase Wall was not able to play in the US, he was to be Wall's agent overseas, ala Jennings.

Demarcus's would have been a secondary , but STILL an Infraction. We got a stink eye for Bill Saying Hi to Wall at an AAU game. What did they get Capone on, tax evasion... Not for the murders or robberies... tax evasion.

However they chase Calipari out of Basketball is fine for me.

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DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

Perhaps you are confused. Brian Clifton was the AAU coach Wall played for, and the money was placed in question because Clifton, for the year he was a certified agent, paid for certain expenses for Wall, which is permissible for an AAU coach to do for players up to an amount, but not allowed at all for someone with an agent title. Clifton had given up his license before this all came to light, but the fact still stood about the benefits during that time, so Wall paid them back. Where you get Rinardo Sidney out of all this, I have no idea. He has never played for Clifton. Sidney's father was his AAU coach, and his eligibility stems around the sponsors of that AAU program and that money. I can find nothing anywhere with Clifton and Sidney mentioned in the same sentence.

On the Cousins issue, first off, there is no such thing as a no-contact period. The most stringent period that would be closest to a no-contact period is a dead period. The coach is still allowed to call a recruit once during this time. There are no restrictions on a recruit calling a coach at any time.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

Are you kidding.... david.... that was last year's news....

JOhn wall received illegal benefits from his AAU coach who was also an international agent.... he received according to a Kentucky audit just under 800.00 dolalrs, while Ricardo sidney received from the same AAU agent.... just under 12,000 dollars.... Seems unlikely that a lesser player ( sidney ) would get that significant more.... no one has investigated further.....

Demarcus Cousin's last year admited on camera to speaking with John Calipari just before the McD's all American game. which is a no contact period. After he realized he outed his coach for a minor violation he quickly said that calipari talked to his mom, instead of him, because that doesn't violate ncaa rules.... NO one investigated further....

Bledsoe's details are particularly damning because i thought he was clean... I was never expecting to find his grades had been changed....

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DavidDC 3 years, 10 months ago

What are you talking about in regards to Cousins and Wall? Details, man, details.

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

it will be almost more intesreting to see the contracts as to see who goes where....

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waywardJay 3 years, 10 months ago

Hawk, or he'll leave the finger prints and won't be punished anyway...

Doolin, if anyone would know he's going pro it would be John Wall... and John Wall thinks he's staying. Wall's going to Washington, they been missing a Point guard since Rod Strickland hit the sauce ( conveinantly one of Cal's assistants.... ) From Experience, I believe they hire someone with Pro Basketball Savvy..... someone who can handle an NBA point guard ( Avery Johnson? ) ..... If this were the Kincks or the Brooklyn Bison i would expect Calipari to be in the mix....

Keep in mind, he might bide his time long enough to find a replacement first at Kentucky.... someone who can keep alive the current trend of Academic malfeasance ...

in 2 more years he's have the next big thing at Kentucky ( Brandon Knight after a year of NBA lockout ?) Stern will rig the draft so that the Newly mented Brooklyn Ballers will get both Calipari and Knight.... the question will be Which Multi-Millionaire will be available.....

Lebronious could sign a 1 year deal and go somewhere else for that to become the biggest star on the brightest stage....

Potential starting line up for that team....

Demarcus cousins ( second overall pick this year ) Brook Lopez Lebron Devin Harris Brand knight

withYi Jianlian, Chris DOuglas Roberts, and god knows who else coming off the bench...

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doolindalton 3 years, 10 months ago

Calipari is headed to the NBA; why would he care?

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Benjamin Piehler 3 years, 10 months ago

if anything happens... UK will get sanctioned and calipari can calmly walk away while another program is left burning. As you hinted at, he probably wont leave his fingerprints on anything.

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