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Reasons for KU fans to not be scared, admiration for OSU's Keiton Page, and predictions for Monday's game

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Jesse Newell: Welcome back to the GameDay Cram Session, as Kansas is taking on Oklahoma State on Monday night in Stillwater, Okla.

As coach at Kansas, Bill Self is 1-3 at Gallagher-Iba Arena. KU is coming off an emotional, overtime comeback victory against its chief rival and guaranteed itself at least a share of the Big 12 title.

Playing without injured freshman Le'Bryan Nash, Oklahoma State in its last game scored its biggest Big 12 margin of victory, beating Texas A&M by 18 points. Earlier in the schedule, the Cowboys defeated Missouri.

Some might say this has classic signs of a trap game. Tom, tell us something about Oklahoma State that could ease the anxiety of KU fans.

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor passes through a trap by Oklahoma State defenders Markel Brown, left, and Brian Williams during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor passes through a trap by Oklahoma State defenders Markel Brown, left, and Brian Williams during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

Tom Keegan: The Cowboys haven't won two games in a row since the first week of December. Their full-court pressure did give Kansas fits in the game in Allen Fieldhouse, but Kansas will be ready for that this time.

JN: Another reason KU fans might be able to breathe a little easier: Oklahoma State probably won't be grabbing many rebounds.

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson wrestles for a rebound amidst the Oklahoma State defense during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson wrestles for a rebound amidst the Oklahoma State defense during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

In the teams' first matchup on Feb. 11, KU outrebounded OSU, 50-21. The Jayhawks grabbed more than half of their missed shots (52 percent) while the Cowboys came away with offensive rebounds on just 13 percent of their misses.

OSU's rebounding numbers should be better than that Monday night, but I'd still expect KU to dominate that category. To make up for that, the Cowboys will either have to make a lot of threes, get to the free throw line a ton or create a lot of KU turnovers.

The free throw line — OSU had 56 free throws in a 90-78 home win over Texas, tying the second-most in an NCAA game this season — is probably the Cowboys' best bet.

Tom, what do you like best about OSU's 5-foot-9 point guard, Keiton Page?

Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page knocks the ball away from Kansas guard Josh Selby during the first half on Monday, Feb. 21, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page knocks the ball away from Kansas guard Josh Selby during the first half on Monday, Feb. 21, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

TK: I like what a fearless competitor he is. In the layup line, he doesn't look as if he belongs. In the game, he proves he does. I like how he has become noticeably better in each of his four seasons in Stillwater. His scoring averages, starting with his freshman season: 8.6, 10.7, 13.2, 16.2. Starting with his 19-point effort in a 15-point loss in Lawrence, Page has averaged 25.2 points and averaged five three-pointers. He followed a 40-point game against Texas with 29 points against Oklahoma.

JN: He's also the only senior that will be honored in Monday's Senior Night ceremonies, so this game should be special for him regardless.

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson watches as Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page puts up a three during the second half on Thursday, March 10, 2011 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City.

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson watches as Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page puts up a three during the second half on Thursday, March 10, 2011 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City. by Nick Krug

But you're right ... he's been playing especially well offensively as of late. Since the KU game, he's made 21 of 43 three-pointers (49 percent) and 26 of 28 free throws (93 percent) in four games.

Page was held to 19 points on 5-for-16 shooting in his first game this year against KU. The Jayhawks would certainly take that kind of a defensive performance against the senior Monday night.

All right, Tom, what's your prediction for this game?

TK: Kansas by 6.

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson pulls his teammates together during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson pulls his teammates together during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

It's a tough turnaround for Kansas, emotionally drained from Saturday's game, but the desire to clinch the outright Big 12 title and continue to hunt a No. 1 NCAA Tournament seed should be ample motivation to pull out the victory.

JN: I'll take KU by 11.

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson swoops into the lane under Oklahoma State forward Le'Bryan Nash as the Jayhawks work against a zone defense during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Elijah Johnson swoops into the lane under Oklahoma State forward Le'Bryan Nash as the Jayhawks work against a zone defense during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

Outside of Page, OSU just doesn't have many playmakers offensively, especially with Le'Bryan Nash most likely sitting out with a fractured hand.

As I mentioned above, I think the rebounding disparity will be hard for OSU to make up. This isn't a Cowboys team that forces a lot of turnovers, so it'll most likely have to rely on making lots of shots and free throws.

That seems like a lot to ask for a team that made just eight of 24 field goals in the first half against KU while falling behind, 51-24, in a game 16 days ago.

OK, Tom, who's your Hawk to Rock?

TK: Travis Releford.

Kansas guard Travis Releford defends against Oklahoma State guard Cezar Guerrero during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Travis Releford defends against Oklahoma State guard Cezar Guerrero during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

Against the two Big 12 schools from Oklahoma, Releford has made 19 of 25 shots (76 percent) and has made 4 of 7 three-pointers (57 percent). Against competition from all other states, Releford makes 46 percent overall and 32 percent on three-pointers. Whether it's red or orange, Releford tuns into a bull when he sees the word Oklahoma.

JN: Even with a bad wheel, Jeff Withey is my HTR.

Kansas center Jeff Withey looks for an outlet after rejecting a shot by Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas center Jeff Withey looks for an outlet after rejecting a shot by Oklahoma State guard Keiton Page during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 11, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

OSU is another team that does not match up well against him, and the 7-footer had 18 points, 20 rebounds and seven blocks in the first matchup.

Self said earlier Monday that expected Withey to start against OSU with his ankle injury.

Because the Cowboys have only one player close to his height (reserve Philip Jurick), this sets up to be another impressive statistical night for Withey.

Give me double-digit points and rebounds for the KU junior.

Predictions tally (through 28 games)
Tom: 23-6 record, 273 points off (9.4 points off/game)
Jesse: 26-3 record, 236 points off (8.1 points off/game)

Hawk to Rock

Tom Keegan
Towson: Tyshawn Taylor (4th in Keegan ratings)
Kentucky: Tyshawn Taylor (1st in Keegan ratings)
Georgetown: Elijah Johnson (4th in Keegan ratings)
UCLA: Tyshawn Taylor (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Duke: Elijah Johnson (4th in Keegan ratings)
FAU: Jeff Withey (4th in Keegan ratings)
South Florida: Tyshawn Taylor (1st in Keegan ratings)
Long Beach State: Elijah Johnson (7th in Keegan ratings)
Ohio State: Thomas Robinson (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Davidson: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
USC: Jeff Withey (4th in Keegan ratings)
Howard: Kevin Young (4th in Keegan ratings)
North Dakota: Elijah Johnson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Kansas State: Tyshawn Taylor (5th in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma: Tyshawn Taylor (4th in Keegan ratings)
Texas Tech: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Iowa State: Elijah Johnson (4th in Keegan ratings)
Baylor: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Texas: Thomas Robinson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Texas A&M: Thomas Robinson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Iowa State: Tyshawn Taylor (1st in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Missouri: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Baylor: Thomas Robinson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma State: Thomas Robinson (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Kansas State: Tyshawn Taylor (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Texas Tech: Thomas Robinson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Texas A&M: Tyshawn Taylor (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Missouri: Thomas Robinson (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Average: 2.8th in Keegan ratings

Jesse Newell
Towson: Conner Teahan (6th in Keegan ratings)
Kentucky: Elijah Johnson (4th in Keegan ratings)
Georgetown: Kevin Young (9th in Keegan ratings)
UCLA: Elijah Johnson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Duke: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
FAU: Tyshawn Taylor (7th in Keegan ratings)
South Florida: Elijah Johnson (6th in Keegan ratings)
Long Beach State: Thomas Robinson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Ohio State: Travis Releford (5th in Keegan ratings)
Davidson: Jeff Withey (5th in Keegan ratings)
USC: Elijah Johnson (1st in Keegan ratings)
Howard: Tyshawn Taylor (1st in Keegan ratings)
North Dakota: Conner Teahan (5th in Keegan ratings)
Kansas State: Travis Releford (1st in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma: Elijah Johnson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Texas Tech: Travis Releford (2nd in Keegan ratings
Iowa State: Thomas Robinson (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Baylor: Kevin Young (9th in Keegan ratings)
Texas: Travis Releford (5th in Keegan ratings)
Texas A&M: Tyshawn Taylor (1st in Keegan ratings)
Iowa State: Jeff Withey (3rd in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma: Conner Teahan (6th in Keegan ratings)
Missouri: Kevin Young (8th in Keegan ratings)
Baylor: Jeff Withey (1st in Keegan ratings)
Oklahoma State: Tyshawn Taylor (4th in Keegan ratings)
Kansas State: Travis Releford (4th in Keegan ratings)
Texas Tech: Kevin Young (4th in Keegan ratings)
Texas A&M: Jeff Withey (2nd in Keegan ratings)
Missouri: Travis Releford (6th in Keegan ratings)
Average: 3.9th in Keegan ratings

Comments

Alohahawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Young man seems humble and yet has aspirations. (Wants to play pro and win the NCAA championship.) Obviously has a ton of talent. Should fit into Coach Self's system just fine.

Good luck, Andrew, in your team's run for the state title.

Look forward to seeing you in a Jayhawk uniform.

LAJayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Kid mentioned the possibility of immediate playing time over and over. Seems like that was a very big factor for choosing KU. Hopefully that will work out, but if it doesn't I hope he doesn't become discouraged. I definitely think he'll have an impact whether it be right away or down the line.

Kye Clark 5 years, 9 months ago

I thought that as well reading it. As it stands now, I think he'll likely come off the bench behind BMac & Releford, so there should be minutes there for him, and then the following year Releford will be gone and he'll have a legit shot at starting. That's pretty good, to be a sophomore starter at KU. Considering how everyone on this year's squad with the exception of Tyshawn had to wait their turn until their junior years, he's coming in at a pretty good time. If Shabazz were to commit tho...he'd probably be better off redshirting, and I don't know if he'd accept that. Again, this is just pure speculation on my part, and is not meant to disparage or cast any negativity on the kid. Regardless of his role out of the box, I am really stoked to see this kid in the crimson & blue!

Alex Berger 5 years, 9 months ago

Keiton Page is one ugly dude. I hope our team comes out ready to play and isn't hungover from the awesome game Saturday. Should be a good game and I like playing against OSU. Wish they had a better team more often so that they could be considered more of a rival. Not to mention they did give us Self...

8ball 5 years, 9 months ago

why you checking out another dude??just saying

Orangedog87 5 years, 9 months ago

who cares what he looks like and seriously he is not ugly....the guy can play BB and that is the most important factor for the game

kesmithstl1 5 years, 9 months ago

Has it been confirmed Nash is out? Just heard Coach Ford say he is doubtful, and Nash really wants to play.

John Myers 5 years, 9 months ago

I hope we can successfully ruin Page's senior night. Can't stand that kid, for some reason.

kesmithstl1 5 years, 9 months ago

Seems like Keiton has been at OSU forever. Maybe this is his Senior Citizen night instead of senior night.

trustyourSelf 5 years, 9 months ago

After 12 games in a row of HTR of Robinson or Taylor, Keegan mixes it up.

indianajayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

I am a little scared as well, but it seems that one thing the team has done this year is learn about facing challenging situations.

Jesse, anyone else.. when was the last time KU faced #1, #2, #3 (at the time) in one season?

Alohahawk 5 years, 9 months ago

After facing #1, #2, #3, and still be ranked #4.

jayhawker_97 5 years, 9 months ago

JN, you read minds well. you can predict the future (well, most of the time). yes, Paige gave a scare everytime we face OSU, that's always in my mind. but after reading this article, we should fear no more. the question remains how mature our group is after a big win and knowing that they'll get their 8th. we've been in this situation before.

JayHawkFanToo 5 years, 9 months ago

From NewsOK.com

Twice Saturday, as he's done all season, Keiton Page lured defenders into fouls on pump-fake 3-pointers. Both times, he made all three foul shots, part of his 20-for-20 day at the free throw line and 40-point performance in a 90-78 win over Texas. “I'm like: ‘Why do guys jump? You're 5-9, I'll just put my hands straight up and make you try to shoot over me,'” said Cowboys freshman Le'Bryan Nash. “But guys who play my position, they make defensive mistakes. He looks for those defensive mistakes.

“And I'm glad they're calling it for him.”

Hopefully KU guards follow Nash advice. Page is a gutsy bulldog on a hot streak. He lit up Texas for 40 points, including 20-20 from the line. He scored 19 against KU, and OSU outscored KU 42-30 in the second half of the game at AFH. KU cannot take OSU lightly!

WoolyMammoth 5 years, 9 months ago

This game reminds me a lot of the Texas Tech game back in 2009. Remember in that game we had just clinched at least a tie of the league. Alan Voskuil then proceeded to light us up for 35 including 9 treys. I hope I am wrong!

JD Roth 5 years, 9 months ago

You are wrong. KU pulls away in second half for double digit win.

Nick Cole 5 years, 9 months ago

We better not have a hangover from last game. Our guys really only played about 20 minutes of basketball. We were just really good in that 20 minute span.

LAJayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

1) We seriously need to bring back those 1952 throwbacks permanently. Those are just awesome looking uni's.

2) Good thing for OSU that Kramer found Pigman in that hospital. Dude can really ball.

3) We are currently favored by 9. For a little perspective, we were favored by 8 over mizzou on Saturday. I think we have some light struggles earlier, but I'm very confident we win this by double digits.

HTR: I think Jesse makes a solid pick in Withey, but I'm pulling out the old bread and butter. I think TRob can smell the finish line (both team-wise and for the POY). He's going to have a huge game.

jaycon11 5 years, 9 months ago

tough call. i'll take withey for the 1st half and robinson for the 2nd half. i expect to see robinson attract the defenders and dish to withey for many easy baskets before halftime. i hope to see withey resting his ankle in the 2nd half while robinson destroys what's left of oklahoma state's will. this will be a good game to give kevin young some more gametime experience, especially when the score is close.

Alohahawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Withey with a sprained ankle. Is less than 100%.

Paige shooting lights out for OSU.

This is OSU's Senior Night, which adds incentive to OSU to win.

Trap game, after a very emotional win over MU.

KU has had only two days rest. They are tired having had to play overtime against MU.

KU is ranked fourth, so they carry a huge target on their backs.

As head coach at KU, HCBS hasn't had much luck when playing at his alma mater.

KU has already gained a tie for the Big 12 championship, so less pressure for KU to win.

However:

KU started the season with a less than favorable forecast. But they've proven the prognostigators wrong in most instances. For that reason, they've played with a chip on their shoulders most of the season. OSU is a big chip because of KU's recent record at OSU. KU would like to change the results this time around. For HCBS's self esteem, his players want him to leave OSU with a win.

One of OSU's best players/scorers (Nash) is injured and is doubtful to play.

KU has played a very difficult schedule this season, so it knows how to compete against anyone and doesn't give up. This KU team hates to lose.

KU has been taught how to play stingy defense by the best defense coach around. With Nash missing, and just one major OSU threat to score, they will clamp down and hold Paige to his lowest points all year. Which could mean a blowout win for KU.

KU's 3 point shooters were on target against MU. They've gained some confidence, which will continue against OSU.

With KU's 3 point shooters forcing OSU's defenders away from the paint, TRob will have a field day.

Having secured at least a tie for the Big 12 championship, the pressure is off, so KU plays for fun while winning in a landslide. KU by 25.

And then there's the biggest factor of all: WE ARE KANSAS!! (All caps)

"Hawk to Rock" - TRob with another double-double, which keeps him ahead of Davis for POY. (perhaps a 20+ / 20+ outing.)

And the bench will play a plethora of minutes. Gotta rest up for Senior Night in the Phog.

Lei an Aloha (Goodbye) on the Cowboys, Hawks!!

R C J H K U !!!

John Myers 5 years, 9 months ago

I'm not sure how this can really be called a "trap game." We have a losing record in Stillwater, we know Page is hot, we know what we're getting. It's gonna be a tough game, and we know it. And we want to clinch outright. To me a trap game is one you overlook, or don't prepare for, or assume you're going to win.

Jeff Coffman 5 years, 9 months ago

I'd love to see the official height of Page. He can't be 5'9", he must be wearing hills or sporting lifts.

Steve Kubler 5 years, 9 months ago

Nice story here http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/50250/on-kansass-ridiculous-big-12-title-streak I have not seen it posted here as of yet.

I like the title.

I like HCBS for COY

Damn, I'm still whipped from Sat night, I hope the players have recovered better than this old man!

Steve Gantz 5 years, 9 months ago

That was a great read. I took one little issue with the writer saying we had been upset every year since the NC. Michigan St. beating us in 09 was not an upset. I can't tell you the seeds in that game, but we can't call it an upset when you lose to any MSU team and Tom Izzo.

5 years, 9 months ago

I noticed the same thing in the article, wissoxfan83.

“Self's Kansas team has been upset in all three tournaments since 2008, including 2010's second-round loss to UNI and last year's Elite Eight defeat to that scorching VCU team.”

Michigan State was a 2-seed that year, while we were a 3-seed.

http://www.databasesports.com/ncaab/tourney.htm?yr=2009

Jonathan Allison 5 years, 9 months ago

I guess it just depends on your definition of upset.

I was upset after KU lost to MSU.

We were ahead for most of the game.

Kyle Sybesma 5 years, 9 months ago

I missed the last OSU game. I would love to see us play at least one game per year in throw backs. Speaking of.......... Have we worn the red's this year?

Kye Clark 5 years, 9 months ago

I don't believe we've worn the reds. I know a lot of fans don't like them, but I do!

Robert Brock 5 years, 9 months ago

If Nash was playing, I would pick the Hawks by 25. But OSU is clearly better without the vastly overrated Nash in the lineup. Prediction: KU by just 4 points.

HTR...EJ.

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