No Jo Jo?: What an Embiid-less lineup would mean for Kansas

Kansas center Joel Embiid swats away a shot from West Virginia forward Devin Williams during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 8, 2014 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas center Joel Embiid swats away a shot from West Virginia forward Devin Williams during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 8, 2014 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

With the news that Kansas University men's basketball center Joel Embiid won't even practice for the next couple of days as he tries to recover from some knee and back issues, it's feasible to think his coach, Bill Self, and the training staff might decide to hold him out for a game or two, if necessary.

The No. 7 Jayhawks (18-6 overall, 9-2 Big 12) lost in overtime at rival Kansas State on Monday with the freshman center limited to 18 minutes.

Looking at the next two games on the schedule — TCU (9-13, 0-10) comes to Allen Fieldhouse on Saturday and KU travels to Texas Tech (12-11, 4-6) on Tuesday — they might not miss him quite as much in those matchups. If Kansas decides to give the 7-footer some extended time off to heal, the Jayhawks' next marquee game wouldn't be until Feb. 22 against Texas.

The uncertainty around Embiid's immediate future started becoming evident Monday night, so naturally members of the national media began to speculate on how KU would adjust to the valuable big man's absence, if that is indeed how the situation plays out.

Kansas guard Andrew Wiggins grabs an offensive rebound over the Kansas State defense during the second half on Monday, Feb. 10, 2014 at Bramlage Coliseum.

Kansas guard Andrew Wiggins grabs an offensive rebound over the Kansas State defense during the second half on Monday, Feb. 10, 2014 at Bramlage Coliseum. by Nick Krug

• Brian Hamilton at wrote that Kansas could still thrive if freshman guard Andrew Wiggins asserts himself on offense.

Hamilton referenced Wiggins' play in the closing seconds of regulation at K-State, when he put back his own miss, as an example of what the 6-foot-8 guard can do with his athleticism.

"…Kansas had a chance because Andrew Wiggins decided to give his team one, and it’s clear by now there’s no harm in the Jayhawks demanding more of that."

He goes on to suggest KU's offense is better off — especially if Embiid is out — with Wiggins taking an active approach.

"Meanwhile, his effective field goal percentage, a measure that takes into account success (or failure) from three-point range, has been up and down. That figure has soared as high as 75 percent against Iowa State on Jan. 29 before plunging to 20.8 percent in the next game, at Texas on Feb. 1. But a correlation between Wiggins’ willingness to be even slightly more selfish, and the offensive efficacy that follows, has become clear."

Obviously, Self knows that more than anyone, and the coach will continue to try and get the best out of his explosive one-and-done guard.

• college basketball reporter Myron Medcalf discussed what an injured Embiid means for Kansas in a video chat.

"That's a big blow for that team," he said.

Medcalf, like many watching the Sunflower Showdown on Monday, thought it was "mysterious" when Self kept his talented center out of the game for extended stretches, even though Embiid wasn't in foul trouble.

He said the key to how this impacts KU depends on how long Embiid is ailing. Medcalf hypothesized it could become more difficult for Kansas to win a 10th straight Big 12 title and/or earn a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament if he misses much more than a couple games, because he is a "defensive force."

• As far as Embiid's personal longterm value on the basketball court goes, the NBA still loves his potential.

ESPN's Chad Ford has Embiid at the top of his draft big board, at No. 1. ESPN's Jeff Goodman projects Embiid as the top pick in his mock draft, too.

Ford has Wiggins as the No. 2 prospect, and Goodman has him getting chosen third, after Duke's Jabari Parker.

On Ford's board, KU freshman Wayne Selden is 27th. The 6-5 guard goes 22nd in Goodman's mock draft.

• KU's OT loss at K-State dropped the Jayhawks to No. 9 in's power rankings.

Oddly enough, Duke, which lost to Kansas earlier this season and plays in the weaker ACC, has moved past Kansas and up to No. 7.

Over at Gary Parrish's Top 25 (and one) rankings for, which are updated daily, the Jayhawks are No. 7.

Parrish said he had no reason to drop KU in the rankings because of its six wins against RPI top-30 teams and eight victories against the top 50.

• Finally, here is the Twitter roundup of some of the top media tweets during and after KU's Big Monday loss at K-State.

ESPN's Fran Fraschilla sat courtside for the live broadcast, but had plenty to say afterward.

None by Fran Fraschilla

None by Fran Fraschilla

None by Fran Fraschilla

Yahoo's Pat Forde enjoyed the atmosphere and competition of the overtime rivalry game.

None by Pat Forde

Goodman couldn't help but praise Brannen Greene after the freshman guard scored on an offensive rebound and stole the following in-bounds pass for another layup in KU's late rally:

None by Jeff Goodman

And, of course, anyone who saw KU's late surge, capped by Wiggins recovering his own miss to tie the game in the final seconds, had to be wowed.

None by Seth Davis

None by Dana O'Neil

Basically, as Medcalf tweeted, who else is looking forward to the Big 12 Tournament?

None by Myron Medcalf



Chad Smith 2 months, 1 week ago

I don't want a #1 seed, I want a #2 seed in the same region as Wichita State for an all-Kansas incredibly hostile regional final in Indianapolis!!! please selection committee,make this a reality!


Steve Corder 2 months, 1 week ago

Game at Tech could be a trap game, coming before the UT rematch. Tech won at OU Wed.


Mark Lindrud 2 months, 1 week ago

2 seed midwest, with two games in Milwaukee are very winnable with a healthy team then off to Indy? I like our chances, but our boys need to be ready to take no prisoners, which includes being healthy.


Tony Bandle 2 months, 1 week ago

My suggestions to Bill [like he really needs them].

1] Jo Jo in street clothes till the Texas game.

2] Continuous rotation and match-ups of Tarik, Jamari and Landon with two of them on the court for significant minutes.

3] Conner, Frank and Naadir split time more equally.

4] Wayne and Brannen split time more equally.

5] Ellis and Wiggins held out of game near TV timeouts only otherwise one MUST be on the floor at all times and preferably both the majority of the time.,

Luckily, we couldn't have been handed better match-ups for this experiment.....TCU at Allen and, to a lesser degree, TT on the road [next to TCU our least challenging road game.]....probably the two are among the weakest teams in the league although TT can be dangerous.

That would give Jo Jo almost twelve days of rest and rehab. If he can't go by then, however, we've got a lot bigger problem than we thought we had.


Ryan Shelton 2 months, 1 week ago

I say shut down Joel for Saturday's game, even if he feels fine. In addition, does anyone have a Segway to loan him for going up and down those knee and back-killing hills on campus? That wouldn't be a NCAA infraction, would it?


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