For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

How many NCAA teams have been better than UK's 2012 NC team? Not many...unless you have UK's current recruiting class coming in to replace the 6 players drafted like the 2012 team had, you are going to have a drop off which occurred. Actually, from a defensive standpoint, no one (including Davis) was better than Noel. Noel also didn't have the benefit of playing with another experienced player next to him (Terrence Jones).

May 20, 2013 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

So you know what Calipari WANTS? Right? Calipari has been in the past couple of days telling all schools should secede from the NCAA if they don't change the one and done rule. Why aren't all the other big name coaches coming out like Calipari is doing right now and telling the NCAA to change the one and done rule. Calipari wants to coach his players for two years rather than see them go to the NBA after a year. Calipari is going to get the elite recruits whether they stay one year or two because he has proven to be the coach that gets players ready for the NBA.

Like I said, Calipari is always going to get a majority of the elite recruits that he is going after. Look at Dakari Johnson's recruitment - he committed to UK with Cauley-Stein and Noel still on UK's team and not declared for the draft. He said he wants to play against the best in practice to get better and win a NC. Same with James Young - he wants only the best to sign with UK for the same reasons. If it were up to Calipari, the one and done rule would be gone in a second!

May 20, 2013 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Don't forget about Bledsoe either - he is a force. They haven't necessarily proven anything is right - because they are only 19-22 years old!!! Give Anthony Davis another 2 years to build up his body and you will see a NBA All-Star for years to come.

DraftExpress had Poythress the #11 pick overall in the 2013 draft before he declared that he was staying in school.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A...

Brak - don't let the facts get in your way though!

May 20, 2013 at 1:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

"say one thing...do another"? Calipari as does Self, Williams, Coach K, etc. all go after the elite recruits. It's just the fact Cal signs most of who he recruits. If Bill Self signed most of the players he recruits (Wiggins/Randle/Walker/Gordon/Parker/Young), Kansas would be changing its roster over each year.

May 20, 2013 at 12:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Did Nerlens Noel live up to expectations? Are you kidding me? He tore his ACL running the length of the court to block a UF guard going in for a layup. If you haven't seen it, Noel likely will be #1 in the NBA draft. You are right on one account, Goodwin didn't live up to expectations.

May 20, 2013 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Great reply genius...and what am I naive about?

May 20, 2013 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Why don't you google "Calipari" and "One and Done rule" and read what Coach Cal says about the rule. From his perspective, wouldn't you want to see Anthony Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Marquis Teague around for two years rather than one? I guarantee you that Kentucky wins back to back NCs in 2012 & 2013 if these guys have to stick around for two years. Both Davis & Kidd-Gilchrist have publicly stated that they wouldn't have any issues in serving two years in college and both have stated they would have gone to college if the rule changed where you could go directly into the NBA.

So your argument is that Cal wouldn't be getting the recruits he has been since there would be already top recruits sticking at UK for a second year. I will tell you the drop off of the "Alpha" recruits (Harrisons/Randle/Noel) wouldn't change all that much because their ultimate goal is the NBA and they want to play against the best (in practice) to prepare them for the NBA. The second wave of the UK recruits (Marcus Lee/Cauley-Stein/Wiltjer) would be the recruits thinking twice about going to UK because now they are looking at being the 3rd player at a given position. When it comes to landing the elite recruits, Calipari will still get them at a high rate because of his proven record of getting players to the league. Actually, UK's chances for a NC increases if players are required to stay two years.

May 20, 2013 at 11:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Your logic doesn't make sense because Poythress was a projected mid-first round pick and he could have gone pro, but decided not to. He was smart enough to come back another year and refine his game. A player's decision to stay in college or go pro has nothing to do being able to coach OAD players. If your point is to say UK hasn't had a track record of putting OADs in the NBA, then have you heard of Cousins, Wall, Bledsoe, Orton, Knight, Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Noel, and Goodwin - and that is all in the past 4 years!

May 20, 2013 at 8:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

"But let's be honest. By Self's own admission, he doesn't like the OAD rule. By Calipari's own admission, he thinks it's great for the game."

What are you talking about??? Calipari HATES the one and done rule - seriously, do you even read what Calipari says about the rule??? I will help you out - just two days ago:

"I'm the one guy out there saying we've gotta change this somehow," Calipari said. "We've gotta encourage these kids to stay two years. But the NCAA's gotta do some stuff, and if they don't do it we need to separate from them. I'm not afraid to say it. But something's gotta change with this one-and-done rule."

May 20, 2013 at 8:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

For Kansas basketball, recruiting never ceases

Yeah, Self's history of starting 3 freshmen and winning a NC is unprecedented. But if your theory is right, KU will be winning a NC this year as Self will be starting 3 freshmen this year (Embiid, Wiggins, & Selden).

May 20, 2013 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )