Monday, January 28, 2019

Jayhawks fall out of AP top 10 for first time this season

Kentucky's Reid Travis (22) drives on Kansas' Dedric Lawson during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game in Lexington, Ky., Saturday, Jan. 26, 2019. Kentucky won 71-63. (AP Photo/James Crisp)

Kentucky's Reid Travis (22) drives on Kansas' Dedric Lawson during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game in Lexington, Ky., Saturday, Jan. 26, 2019. Kentucky won 71-63. (AP Photo/James Crisp)


For the first time this season the top 10 doesn’t include Kansas.

The Jayhawks dropped to No. 11 in the AP poll released on Monday, with the new top 25 reflecting KU’s Saturday loss at Kentucky.

The Jayhawks (16-4 overall, 5-2 Big 12) fell two spots from the previous week, with No. 9 North Carolina and No. 10 Marquette moving past them.

Marquette just edged KU in points, 973-972, securing the final spot in the top 10 over the Big 12’s perennial champion.

Kentucky also moved up a spot, to No. 7, after defeating KU at Rupp Arena.

The order among the top six teams in the country remained unchanged from last week: No. 1 Tennessee, No. 2 Duke, No. 3 Virginia, No. 4 Gonzaga, No. 5 Michigan and No. 6 Michigan State.

KU opened the 2018-19 campaign as preseason No. 1 in the AP poll before spending the next four weeks at No. 2. The Jayhawks then regained their No. 1 spot for two weeks in December, before dropping to No. 5 following their loss at Arizona State.

A loss at Iowa State bumped KU down to No. 7 in the first January rankings, and Kansas slid down to No. 9 this past week, after losing at West Virginia.

The move to No. 11 in the new poll marked the first time the Jayhawks didn’t reside within the AP’s top 10 since the second week of February, in 2018, when they were No. 13. Kansas ranked among the top 10 in the final four polls of the 2017-18 season and finished No. 4 in the country with its run to the Final Four.

KU remained the top-ranked team from the Big 12 in this week’s updated top 25, which only included two other conference foes: No. 16 Texas Tech and No. 20 Iowa State. Both Kansas State and Oklahoma received votes.

The Cyclones (15-5 overall, 4-3 Big 12) moved up four spots, despite losing at KU this past week, with their Saturday win at Ole Miss helping them improve their stock.

No. 11 Kansas plays at Texas (11-9, 3-4) at 6 p.m. Tuesday on ESPN.

AP Top 25 (Jan. 28, 2019)

No. 1 - Tennessee

No. 2 - Duke

No. 3 - Virginia

No. 4 - Gonzaga

No. 5 - Michigan

No. 6 - Michigan State

No. 7 - Kentucky

No. 8 - Nevada

No. 9 - North Carolina

No. 10 - Marquette

No. 11 - Kansas

No. 12 - Virginia Tech

No. 13 - Houston

No. 14 - Villanova

No. 15 - Louisville

No. 16 - Texas Tech

No. 17 - Purdue

No. 18 - Buffalo

No. 19 - LSU

No. 20 - Iowa State

No. 21 - Maryland

No. 22 - Mississippi State

No. 23 - North Carolina State

No. 24 - Wisconsin

No. 25 - Florida State


Michael Maris 2 years, 2 months ago

Due to season ending injury, ruled ineligible player and a young less experienced backcourt, Kansas is not a Top 10 team. Based on what we've seen in games (since the redshirt was pulled from Agbaji), Agbaji should have been rated (by Rivals) as a 4 star player, and Grimes as a 4 star player as well. Grimes seems timid in his shooting abilities, and has not impressed me at all. I hope that Grimes finds his confidence and shooting touch in the month of February and March into the first week of April.

Suzi Marshall 2 years, 2 months ago

If we don’t get Silvio this week, We won’t have him at all this year.

The AZ and USC plea deals last week and this should move the needle for Silvio one way or another.

Chris DeWeese 2 years, 2 months ago

We're probably more of a #17 or #18 team right now anyway. No big surprise. In Bill Self I trust, so I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of players find their stride in March. However, my expectations were tempered several weeks ago. High ceiling for this team? Yes! Will they hit it this year?

Glen Miller 2 years, 2 months ago

We've beaten the #1, 6 and 10 team in the country, barely lost to the #7 when we played like garbage, lost Doke are waiting on DeSouza....... I think we'll be just fine. Some folks act like the sky is falling when any adversity comes our way. Let's just see how the season plays out. I for one don't feel like there are 16 or 17 teams in the country that are better than us on a night to night basis, but do agree we are in line to have a "down" year by our standards.

David McNickle 2 years, 2 months ago

Skies not falling but those 3 wins were with Dok in the lineup. The ruling on Hernandez doesn't make me real confident that Silvio will be back this year.

Armen Kurdian 2 years, 2 months ago

At least in the Hernandez case, he had some level of personal involvment while Silvio has had none. The NCAA does have a hard decision in ruling on ineligibility, i.e., fruit of the poisonous tree, but that being said, it is unjust to punish a kid who had zero knowledge of anything happening around him, and that quite frankly probably made no difference in where he was going to play.

Len Shaffer 2 years, 2 months ago

I don't think anyone can make a blanket statement about KU being in the top 10 or 17-18. At Allen, KU is a top 10 (and probably a top 5) team. On the road, they look like they barely belong in the top 20.

Marius Rowlanski 2 years, 2 months ago

I'm not sure that we've ever been a top 10 team this season. Losing Dok hurt but McCormack is more skilled as a freshman then was Udoka. McCormack looks very uncomfortable out on the court but maybe there is enough time to get his production up à la Silvio. Our other freshmen haven't gotten off to a good start and other than Dedric, not much production from the transfers either.

Did anybody really think Silvio was going to play this year?

Suzi Marshall 2 years, 2 months ago

I was pessimistic about getting Silvio back for this season until he retained the services of Scott Thompslett. He is a top of the line layer in this field.

Len Shaffer 2 years, 2 months ago

"He is a top of the line layer in this field."

Are you saying he's a ladies' man? Just wondering ...

Bj Cassady 2 years, 2 months ago

We have been exposed as: a not very good road team; a team with a weak bench; a team with a weak frontline; a team with inconsistent guard play; a team when with the lead, does not know how to go for the throat; a team that does not rebound with the heavies.

Len Shaffer 2 years, 2 months ago

You're right on all of that, BJ, and yet I still have some hope because even in their losses, KU has generally been in the game till the end (ISU in Ames notwithstanding). So maybe they can still hit their stride in time for the Madness -- and of course if Silvio does end up playing, that could be a huge boost.

Marius Rowlanski 2 years, 2 months ago

Even w/Silvio, we lack any type of outside shooting, little mid-range and I'll give Dotson credit for driving into the lane but he doesn't finish and we don't rebound that well. Mason would be the 2nd best rebounder on this team.

Ryan Zimmerman 2 years, 2 months ago

I disagree here. Outside of Dedric, Dotson is the best chance we have of scoring. He doesn't make every drive, but he can finish with his right or left and is light years ahead of where Frank and Devonte were as freshmen. Dotson has a motor and will drive and is really the only one that will

Jay Scott 2 years, 2 months ago

This team looks almost as thin and awful as the 2011-12 team that also had 2 conference losses and 4 losses overall at this point. That team scored 74 PPG + shot an atrocious .345 from the arc vs 77 and .358 currently. Both teams averaged 13 turnovers and 38 rebounds.

Hopefully this years team doesn't crap out like the 2011-12 team...

RJ King 2 years, 2 months ago

Interesting numbers for sure. I've always advocated for Vick, but wouldn't it be cool if his personality suddenly morphed into a Kevin Young? Both super bouncy. Vick more talented. (Maybe a fro could channel his inner KY?)

Garrett can certainly fill the Releford role. Dedric can produce T-Robb/Withey numbers (but without the shot blocking, and only half the fouls to give.) Can Dotson/Grimes/Ochai progress and be what Tyshawn and EJ were to that team?

Fun to watch it unfold.

Jay Scott 2 years, 2 months ago

My wife still chuckles every time Young is mentioned... Funniest nickname of all.

Brad Watson 2 years, 2 months ago

The lack of leadership is hurting us right now...The lack of hungriness is glaring....we have great talent and we are good enough to beat most teams...the only top !0 team I see that we could beat consistently is Tennessee...which is very overrated...and Self owns Barnes....we just are not playing with the energy needed to deserve a high ranking...the Kentucky game exposed our MANY weaknesses...but things can change by March...but it will take an all out effort from the players...the coaches...the managers...everyone involved with this team needs to step up their game and try as hard as they can to be their very best...every minute of every day and things will turn out well in the end.

Dale Stringer 2 years, 2 months ago

IMO, we should have put in the last 5 minutes. If we still lost and he's eventually declared ineligible, then what did we penalized - a game we lost? But if Silvio played and we won, UK and it's fans would have screamed so loud that the NCAA would have had to make an eligibility determination by now.

Ryan Zimmerman 2 years, 2 months ago

We've had some great wins (Tenn, MSU, Marq) and some head scratching losses (WVU, ISU) but that's usually the name of the game. The one thing that's different this year than the last few is that I always believed we could lose to any team, but also beat any team on any given night. This year we've shown we can get beat and I don't see us as a team that go and beat anyone in the top 10 right now. Before the season we kept hearing how deep we were. Obviously losing Dok didn't help, but we are not deep. Deep to me means you can plug in a bench player and not lose much on the floor. Let's face it when Charlie or KJ or McCormack get in, we are definitely not gaining much let alone keeping the same pace as the starters. I think DMC will be a good player, he just looks super frantic on defense especially. Charlie is probably the biggest letdown. I thought he was going to bring some offensive firepower but other than the one career best game, he's non existent. And seriously though, what's the issue with Mitch? It seems that IF he plays HCBS has about an inch of patience and if he's not playing perfect, he's yanked for 2 games. I don't get it. Vick, Grimes, Garrett have no ways off messing up into losing significant playing time as of late. But man if Mitch doesn't grab a rebound one time, he's done for. .

Brad Watson 2 years, 2 months ago

Lots of good teams this year...Louisville looks good...Houston is scary....Buffalo is also scary good...I haven't seen Nevada....Marquette is really good....Michigan is is little brother......those 2 games will be fun to quit in LSU.....and of course Duke and the Zags...are always this is a fun season...and don't forget Villanova....who have not lost since we played them.....where do we we fit in?....without great effort...we DON'T!....these teams are just too good for us to just show up...we have to want it more....which was obvious against Kentucky...they wanted it more and played like it...its not too late ...but like last is the time to start playing like Champions...or you do not deserve anything.

Jay Scott 2 years, 2 months ago

The intangibles focus Chicken Littles are the funniest (Stupidest).

"They don't try hard enough"...."There's no leadership"....

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