Wednesday, October 31, 2018


Tom Keegan: Even Bill Self wonders what preseason No. 1 really means

Kansas coach Bill Self calls to his players during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game against Texas, Saturday, Feb. 25, 2017, in Austin, Texas. Kansas won 77-67.

Kansas coach Bill Self calls to his players during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game against Texas, Saturday, Feb. 25, 2017, in Austin, Texas. Kansas won 77-67.


Kansas carries college basketball’s No. 1 preseason ranking into Tuesday night’s season opener vs. No. 10 Michigan State in Indianapolis, and its 16th-year head coach posed an interesting question about the ranking.

“I don’t know whether preseason rankings are supposed to be who the best team is on Nov. 5th or who the best team is projected to be over time?” he wondered. “I really don’t know, and nobody’s given me a definition of what that means.”

Good question.

The answer is that’s up to the voter. In its voting guidelines, the Associated Press lists first: “Base your vote on performance, not reputation or preseason speculation. Avoid regional bias. Your local team does not deserve any special handling when it comes to your ballot. Pay attention to head-to-head results.”

But it doesn’t say anything about the preseason ballot. When I was a voter, I used my preseason ballot as a projection of where I thought teams would be come Final Four time and then quickly shifted to purely a performance vote, disregarding preseason rankings.

Remember, KU has just two returning starters in center Udoka Azubuike and small forward Lagerald Vick, so it might take a while for the talent to blend together. The good news: The other three starters likely will be preseason All-American Dedric Lawson and a pair of freshmen guards, Devon Dotson and Quentin Grimes. Plus, these Jayhawks have more depth than the past few teams.

“For somebody to say who’s the best team, I don’t think anybody could do that right now,” Self said at Big 12 Media Day. “I would be surprised if we are, even though we were picked there.”

He explained why.

“I don’t think we’ll be near as good as what we need to be to play to that ranking until we can get some experience in our backcourt,” Self said.

If not Kansas, then which school has the best team in the nation right now?

“I have no idea,” Self said. “I haven’t seen anybody play."

But he pays close enough attention to rattle off a few schools.

"You would say Duke and Kentucky would be ahead of everybody right now," Self said, "because they had 10 practices and they went on a trip this summer, and based on what I was told and the little bit I saw, both teams were ultra-impressive with their respective games.”

Anybody else up there?

“Mark (Few) returns most everybody out at Gonzaga,” Self said. “Rick (Barnes) is loaded, got everybody back for Tennessee. Certainly, you have other teams out there that will all challenge.”

Self also mentioned that he thinks No. 12 Kansas State deserves to be included in the national conversation, not just listed as a Big 12 contender.

AP voters ranked Kentucky second, Gonzaga third, Duke fourth, Virginia fifth and Tennessee sixth in the preseason poll.

“If we don’t play to that (ranking) early, that’s OK, too,” Self said.

Of course, he meant that it’s OK as long as the Jayhawks make great strides throughout the season, which his teams typically do.


Dane Pratt 2 years, 5 months ago

Means the fans of the opposing team will storm the court when we lose.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 5 months ago

Means Coach will need to be creative to motivate the team to put in the extra effort to be #1 at the end of the year.

It started with telling Dedric he had an ugly 31 point game.

He's a master motivator.

Tony Bandle 2 years, 5 months ago

It means KU will have a larger than normal bulls eye on our backs from day one.

It means we will be anywhere but Number One by Christmas.

It means those bastards at adidas will sell a lot of shoes.

It means that every away game will be a battlefield.

Actually, it means NOTHING!!!

Armen Kurdian 2 years, 5 months ago

It means if we lose even one game the coach is FIRED!!!! And it means I'm going to freak if we win every game by less than 20 points!!! (Actually for those of you that remember 96-97, that was the norm until the worst loss I have ever experienced).

Armen Kurdian 2 years, 5 months ago

Truthfully, I believe it is a historical measure of what Coach Self does with new recruits and how he always, invairably, and without exception surprises everyone as to how well and how quickly he gets a team to play in a season. Leaving tourney out of it for a moment, KU has been the most consistent team in Div I since he took the helm. He's getting paid the big bucks and he's delivering.

Marius Rowlanski 2 years, 5 months ago

I'll reserve judgment on several points until we are officially cleared or we only lose a scholorship or so but if Coach Self not only knew but collaberated with Adidas, everything he has accomplished will be tarnished.

I still believe in our coach but it didn't take 23 years in the USCG to learn not to tether yourself to a sinking ship.

Bob Strawn 2 years, 5 months ago

self knows the college game is a match of guards.

Marius Rowlanski 2 years, 5 months ago

I don't agree and I'm willing to bet you see a hybrid of Self's hi/low game this year. We've had back to back years with more a lot of guards but not

David Robinett 2 years, 5 months ago

“Wilt, that was the ugliest 100 point game I’ve ever seen!”

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