Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Beaty on 2019 recruiting class: ‘We don’t have a whole lot to give’

Kansas University football recruiting

Kansas University football recruiting


Either during college football’s early December signing period or on National Signing Day in February, one would have to believe, some football players will join lone wolf Cole Mueller, the only prospect from the Class of 2019 currently committed to the University of Kansas.

A two-star running back from Wentzville, Mo., Mueller became the Jayhawks’ one and only recruit for the class earlier this month when Clay Cundiff, a three-star tight end from Wichita, backed out of his nonbinding verbal commitment to KU in order to align with Wisconsin.

Back in August, Lance LeGendre, a four-star quarterback from New Orleans, decommitted.

With Dec. 19-21, the early signing period for football this year, less than a couple months away, KU head coach David Beaty was asked Tuesday to comment on the state of the program’s 2019 class.

“You know, we can't talk specifics,” Beaty began, referencing rules that prohibit coaches from talking about players before they sign.

The fourth-year KU coach went on to say he and his staff have been “very pointed and direct” with their approach on the recruiting front, according to what they need and what they’re working with from a scholarship standpoint.

“We don't have a whole lot to give, believe it or not,” Beaty said, apparently referencing how he and his staff have utilized blueshirts — athletes who don’t sign letters of intent but join the program on scholarship and count toward the following year’s recruiting class. “So it's one of those deals where knowing exactly what you need and what your needs are, are very important.”

Beaty also offered up the idea that “the recruiting game has changed” in terms of what it takes to sign players.

“And where and when do you pull triggers, right? There's guys running all over the fields in places we're playing and in the SEC, of guys that were committed to us,” Beaty said. “I mean, we've got to learn from that. So being very smart about how we do things and making sure that we're just not the guys that just put people on radars. That make sense?”

During KU’s recruiting efforts for the 2018 class, 11 players committed to the team at one point but had backed out by the time the early signing period came around:

• Ja’Marr Chase, now a receiver at LSU

• Aaron Brule, a linebacker at Mississippi State

• Nelson Jenkins, a defensive tackle at LSU

• Devonta Jason, a receiver at Mississippi State

• Cartez Crook-Jones, a defensive end at Kansas State

• Clayton Tune, a quarterback at Houston

• Tevailance Hunt, a receiver at TCU

• Zach Burks, a defensie lineman at Ohio

• Josh Smith, who signed with Prairie View A & M

• Jonathan Lolohea, who left Washington State in August

• Charles Cameron, a defensive tackle at Florida Atlantic

As of Tuesday, according to Rivals, eight other Big 12 programs had at least 15 commitments for the Class of 2019, and Kansas State had eight.


[''] 2 years, 6 months ago

‘We don’t have a whole lot to give’ -- you got that right. You can't give these athletes squat.

Brett McCabe 2 years, 6 months ago

What's interesting is the whining on this site about how handicapped Beaty was when he took the job. Four years in, and he doesn't have any scholarships to offer? Who was in charge of the scholarship situation? He was surprised he lost recruits to LSU, Miss. St. and TCU? He needs to learn from that? That a kid might go to a successful program vs. a 3-33 one?

The number one reason I want Long to do his job is so that I never hear another sentence from David Beaty again. Ever. Ever.

Dane Pratt 2 years, 6 months ago

Patience Grasshopper, all in good time. The chancellor didn’t fire the AD so he could bring Beaty back for a fifth season and the new AD is not going to fire Beaty for the purpose of satisfying the Brett McCabe’s of the world. Have faith in Long, he knows what he’s doing even if it doesn’t meet with your approval.

John Strayer 2 years, 6 months ago

I can live with losing players to LSU Miss St...maybe even TCU....but Prairie View A&M and Florida Atlantic???? What the hell...we can't even compete for recruits against these schools? Please....please tell me this is a case they couldn't meet KU academic standards...

Brian Wilson 2 years, 5 months ago

First off. I was one of those that supported Beaty all the way up until our foruth game this year. And, I would do it again.

Second, I, or anyone else that I saw on here, never said he didn't have any scholarships to give. What we said is, Beaty was left with less than 23 Seniors and Juniors combined, and the ones left were mostly walk-ons and scrubs. When he took the job even after recruiting he had to find 60 walk-ons. it was beyond a pathetic situation.

Third, Beaty has done what he was hired to do. Beaty recruited enough players over the course of four years to get the numbers back up to near normal. during which time, he got a shot a beind coach for a power 5.
No other coach wanted the job. Why take over a program so depleted you have a 80% chance of getting fired in 4 years. Beaty came cheap because he was desperate to get a HC position and KU found someone cheap that could rebuild the roster and possibly just maybe Beaty woud work out.

I was really hoping Beaty would be successful. But now IMO, he is done. So, Beaty's buyout is cheap and our current Junior and Sophomore classes are big and we can move on with a roster where an incoming coach with 4 years can be successful.

Dane Pratt 2 years, 6 months ago

How do we lose recruits to Prairie View and Florida Atlantic.

Kevin Robert Fest 2 years, 6 months ago

Because after listening to Beaty, they thought it was best to go somewhere else.

Dennis Mahorney 2 years, 6 months ago

He have a lot of playing time to give. There are a lot of seniors leaving. They probably want to know who they will be playing for next year, and they know it won't be him.

Kevin Robert Fest 2 years, 6 months ago

What coach comes out and says that? Did he say this to recruits during the bye week? Did he have his coaches say this to recruits during the bye week? He's leaving the next coach with next to nothing to work with. How many people on this site said it would be a mistake to fire him before the season and just have an intern coach coach this year.? You got what you asked for. Another season wasted.

Try to defend this one Steven.

Andy Godwin 2 years, 6 months ago

Maybe Beaty needs to give someone at Adidas a call.

Phil Leister 2 years, 6 months ago

“I mean, we've got to learn from that. So being very smart about how we do things and making sure that we're just not the guys that just put people on radars. That make sense?”

No. No that literally does not make sense. Is he seriously implying that a scholarship offer from KU puts unknown guys on the radar of big programs that will come in and scoop them up? Give me a break.

Marcus Balzer 2 years, 6 months ago

If I was a parent or young man and I had Coach Beaty or any of his staff sitting in front of me the first question I would ask would be... At the start of winter conditioning will you or your assistants still be employed by KU.

I don't believe that any of them, save for Hull can say with a shred of decency and honesty that they will be retained at the end of this season.

Zero way I would commit to a school with that aura of uncertainty around it.

Gerry Butler 2 years, 6 months ago

The reason we don't have to give - -What he really means is , we don't have anybody who wants to come here for this cess pool. I don't really know WHO the hell not just recruits but possible NEXT Coaches is wanting or going to come here. We think getting recruits to come here is bad? - - It's going to be a REAL challenge to get any Coach that will be willing to take on this challenge - -I and I know countless others that are so sick and tired of being the laughing stock of College football. - -Hell there are probably a lot of Juco College programs that could be JU in football. It's just really sad how bad this program has gotten to - -un believable

Robert Brock 2 years, 6 months ago

KU should explore joining the Big East Conference when the Big 12 GoR expires. Non-football.

Joe Black 2 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, that's the answer. When the going gets tough, quit. Sounds like a snowflake.

Andy Tweedy 2 years, 6 months ago

I can't even listen to this guy talk any more!

Steven Haag 2 years, 6 months ago

Amen Marcus. No way I commit to a school or coach with the uncertainty that we have. Actually it’s pretty certain that Beaty will be gone, kids want to know who the new coach is. With all the bashing and short leash fans, we will be lucky to get anybody. I can GUARANTEE that we won’t offer up $3 million a year......won’t happen. With all the assistant coaches that football requires, and they have to pay the assistants something, we won’t/can’t afford a huge salary. I’m waiting for the new hire and then set back and listen to all the whining and complaining. It’s quite hilarious

Brett McCabe 2 years, 6 months ago

Short leash fans? Bashing? That’s the problem? He’s won one conference game in 3.5 years. He just admitted publicly that he mismanaged his scholarships and that, going into his 4th season he has few available to give. This guy has been given the longest leash ever and he continues to wrap it around himself.

And I’ve never understood the “poor pitiful me” approach that says the only coach we can get is the one with the worst P5 record in the country. Believe in your university. We will do much better.

Doug Merrill 2 years, 6 months ago

And he won't play the QB that won that lone conference win...

Steven Haag 2 years, 6 months ago

Brett, I didn’t say he was a great coach, or that we didn’t have a problem with our program, because we do. What I DONT do is continue to bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash, and bash............gets us nowhere.

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