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Tuesday, October 2, 2018

David Beaty: No plan to redshirt any KU football players at this juncture

Kansas head coach David Beaty looks over to an official during the first half of an NCAA college football game against Baylor, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2018, in Waco, Texas.

Kansas head coach David Beaty looks over to an official during the first half of an NCAA college football game against Baylor, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2018, in Waco, Texas.

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Sidelined by a shoulder injury this past weekend, and out for at least the Kansas football team’s game at West Virginia this coming Saturday, too, quarterback Miles Kendrick has only played in four games for the Jayhawks.

Thanks to a new rule put in place by the NCAA earlier this year, Kendrick is still eligible to take a redshirt this season and preserve a year of eligibility, because he hasn’t surpassed the four-game limit.

However, when asked Tuesday during his weekly press conference, KU football coach David Beaty said Kendrick is “not at all” a redshirt candidate.

In fact, Beaty added, he and his staff aren’t discussing the idea of redshirting “anybody” right now.

“We don't have enough full scholarship guys to be able to consider that,” KU’s fourth-year coach said. “Everybody is going to be eligible the entire way. We need everybody. We need everybody we’ve got.”

Earlier this year, Beaty said KU planned on having 70 “true” scholarship players — not counting former walk-ons who have picked one up — competing, “if we’re lucky,” in 2018.

Prompted to elaborate Tuesday on his philosophy regarding the usage of redshirts and to clarify whether there was any player on the roster KU planned to redshirt, Beaty said the staff “may” end up identifying players who would fall into that category.

“But we're not trying to do that,” Beaty explained. “Some of it will come as we move along through the season, and guys are just not quite prepared yet, right? But there (are) no plans to redshirt anyone.”

As an example of the fluidity that comes with a player’s ability to get into a game and contribute, Beaty pointed to junior defensive back Elmore Hempstead. The transfer from Fort Scott Community College “wasn’t completely ready early,” the coach said, referencing that Hempstead didn’t play in KU’s season opener against Nicholls State.

“But he's starting to show signs that he's getting there, right?” Beaty added of Hempstead, who made an interception in KU’s loss this past weekend to Oklahoma State.

Such progress can come behind the scenes, at practices, particularly with younger players, the KU coach said.

“And we’ve got 25 seniors, so we've got the ability — and most of those guys are playing — so it gives you the ability to let those others grow before they have to get thrown completely into the fire, right?” Beaty said. “We're not planning on it. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but we're not planning on it.”

In past years, NCAA football considered a full season of eligibility used if a player checked in for even a single play in one game.

Per KU’s published participation numbers as of Tuesday, below are the number of games played this season for offensive, defensive and specialist Jayhawks. If an active member of the roster is not listed, it means he has yet to play this year.

(An “R” indicates the player already has used his one redshirt year permitted by the NCAA; “grad” signifies the player is a graduate transfer.)

OFFENSE

FIVE GAMES

Khalil Herbert, jr. RB

Dom Williams, soph. RB

Steven Sims Jr., sr. WR

Kerr Johnson Jr., sr. WR

Stephon Robinson, soph. WR

Kwamie Lassiter II, R-soph. WR

Caperton Humphrey, jr. FB

Hakeem Adeniji, jr. OL

Earl Bostick, soph. OL

Kevin Feder, R-jr. OL

Alex Fontana, grad-sr. OL

Antione Frazier, jr. OL

Chris Hughes, R-soph. OL

Jack Luavasa, soph. TE

Clyde McCauley, R-jr. OL

Ryan Schadler, R-sr. WR

Andru Tovi, jr. OL

Dwayne Wallace, grad-sr. OL

FOUR GAMES

Miles Kendrick, soph. QB

Carter Stanley, R-jr. QB

Pooka Williams, fr. RB

Jeremiah Booker, sr. WR

Peyton Bender, R-sr QB

Evan Fairs, jr. WR

Quan Hampton, soph. WR

Daylon Charlot, R-jr. WR

Tyler Patrick, R-sr. WR

Malik Clark, R-soph. OL

Hudson Hall, R-jr. FB

THREE GAMES

Deron Thompson, R-sr. RB

Takulve Williams, R-fr. WR

Zach Nachbar, sr. WR

Api Mane, jr. OL

James Sosinski, jr. TE

TWO GAMES

Reese Randall, R-sr. RB

Mavin Saunders, grad-sr. TE

ONE GAME

Ryan Malbrough, fr. RB

Kendall Morris, R-jr. RB

Miles Fallin, R-fr. QB

Joey Gilbertson, R-fr. OL

Reuben Lewis, jr. OL

Kameron McQueen, R-soph. WR

DEFENSE

FIVE GAMES

Joe Dineen, R-sr. LB

Bryce Torneden, jr. S

Keith Loneker Jr., R-sr. LB

Mike Lee, jr. S

Hasan Defense, jr. CB

Corione Harris, fr. CB

Daniel Wise, R-sr. DT

KeyShaun Simmons, sr. DL

Kyron Johnson, soph. LB

Brian Lipscomb, grad-sr. DE

Isi Holani, R-sr. DT

Osaze Ogbebor, sr. LB

Shak Taylor, sr. CB

Jeremiah McCullough, jr. S

J.J. Holmes, sr. DT

Codey Cole, jr. DT

Dru Prox, R-soph. LB

Jelani Brown, jr. DE

Tyrone Miller Jr., sr. S

Willie McCaleb, R-jr. DE

Azur Kamara, jr. DE

Emmanuel Moore, sr. S

Darrius Moragne, jr. DE

Robert Topps III, R-fr. S

Sam Burt, soph. DT

Denzel Feaster, R-jr. LB

FOUR GAMES

Elmore Hempstead, jr. CB

DeAnte Ford, R-jr. CB

Davon Ferguson, soph. S

Drew Harvey, soph. LB

Julian Chandler, jr. CB

THREE GAMES

Ricky Thomas, soph. S

Elijah Jones, jr. CB

Najee Stevens-McKenzie, R-jr. DE

Jay Dineen, R-fr. LB

ONE GAME

Kenny Bastida, fr. LB

Kyle Mayberry, jr. CB

SPECIALISTS

FIVE GAMES

Gabriel Rui, R-sr. K

Kyle Thompson, R-soph. P

John Wirtel, R-sr. LS

FOUR GAMES

Donovan Gagen, soph. P/K

Comments

Thomas Wagner 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Why would he red-shirt any players? He isn't going to be around to worry about it in the future. It's not like he needs to worry about the next coaches problem he leaves behind.

If I'm the AD, I would step in and make sure some of the players do get red-shirted for the benefit of some of the kids.

Brett McCabe 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I would hope that Long and the football associate AD would do just that. It's about the future of the program now, Coach Beaty, you had your chance.

[''] 10 months, 3 weeks ago

He has no idea what he's doing. So he doesn't know if redshirting would be good or bad....

Jeff Coffman 10 months, 3 weeks ago

And people wonder why I say fire the coach now.

Micky Baker 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Yes, they do because they know you're not an expert and they have their opinions as well, but not as irrational as yours.

Steven Haag 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I think he is doing it just to pi$$ all of you haters off😂😂😂😂😂

Randy Bombardier 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Why think about the future of the program? What about the future of the players. Wouldn't they benefit being able to have an extra year of preparation? What about that Stephen?

Micky Baker 10 months, 3 weeks ago

It's Steven. It's right on the screen for you to spell it right. Why is this so hard for those who are being pretentious? Both sides of this argument have some validity. There are some kids who need to work on their strength and quickness. On the other hand, getting experience while also working strength and quickness is also beneficial. In high school, they don't have this luxury. Mike Lee started as a freshman. The only reason I can see any redshirts this year is due to medical issues, and giving them a redshirt is beneficial to the kid so they don't lose a year of eligibility at the college level. The goal posts for the expectations seem to have been moved by those criticizing the program a couple of years ago for not having enough scholarship players, and now they don't want to put them on the field. They criticized Weis when players never played a down but were taking up a scholarship, now they're criticizing Beaty for playing the scholarship players as freshmen. Can't have it both ways.

Steven Haag 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Randy, first of all, please learn how to spell my name if you want to have a conversation. Now to answer your question. I’m honestly not sure. I do believe this with all of my heart: Beaty is a good person. He loves those kids and those kids love him. Being a good person does not make you a good coach. I get that. This is year 4, and he will almost certainly be gone at years end or before. With that said, he knows a lot more about these players than you or me, or any other poster on this thread. I’m quite sure he doesn’t wake up every morning and think to himself, “How can I screw these kids and this University over today?” He May end up red shirting some, he may not. I know a few athletes that played college ball. Never met one who wanted to spend 5 years in college. None of the athletes that I knew were heading to the NFL either. They wanted their degree and wanted to go earn some money. I’m not convinced that not redshirting them is “bad” for the players.

Micky Baker 10 months, 3 weeks ago

That's right Steven. Your name is spelled correctly on the page for them. It's not hard for them to look at it.

Chris Condren 10 months, 3 weeks ago

The key word here is plan. Beaty does not have a PLAN for anything.

Brian Hosfelt 10 months, 3 weeks ago

No reason not to redshirt Kendrick.....if Carter is going to start your not going to do a two quarter back rotation in a game with the same skill set of a player...redshirt him, let him watch the rest of the season, have spring and fall ball to WIN the job next season....and still have 3 years eligibility...seems simple

Micky Baker 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Do you really want Bender as a back up if Stanley gets hurt? Not me!

Aaron Paisley 10 months, 3 weeks ago

If Stanley is the guy going forward, it makes no sense to play Kendrick barring injury. Stanley can run the packages that were designed for Kendrick so there's no point in bringing in Kendrick because he doesn't change anything from Stanley.

The 2 QB system only makes sense if the QB's are different styles of QB's like Kendrick and Bender are.

John Fitzgerald 10 months, 3 weeks ago

And it only makes sense if a coach has successfully ran one package. Which as we’ve seen he hasn’t.

Randy Bombardier 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Well Steven (sic) , the article on Dineen makes my point. As a fifth year senior he is graded after 5 games as the top linebacker in the nation. That most likely doesn't happen if he doesn't redshirt.

Micky Baker 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Or it makes the point that Weis didn't recognize his talent and redshirted him as a freshman.

Thomas Wagner 10 months, 3 weeks ago

When I made my original statement I wasn't saying that all Freshman should be red-shirted. The point I wanted to make was there are at least a handful with every class that would benefit from it.

Upon further review of the list in the article, I'm shocked (although I shouldn't be) that there are a total of 2 freshman that could be red-shirted at this time. This is a direct result of the lack of planning and using JUCO's and Transfers to help fill the upper class gaps from previous issues.

What's going to happen in 3-4 years (Beatty won't be here to deal with it) when this group are upperclassman.

So maybe it isn't a bad idea to not red-shirt them since there aren't very many.

This is the type of planning that requires a coach to be fired.

Steven Haag 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Randy, you make it sound like every player who redshirts will lead the nation at their position. Doesn’t happen that way. Some benefit, some don’t. Some know that they won’t go to the NFL and to graduate in 4 years. These student/athletes?????? It’s sort of about them, not the fans that have all the answers to going undefeated

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