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Monday, November 26, 2018

Notebook: UT’s Herman seeks input from Beaty

Kansas offensive lineman Alex Fontana (53) puts his arm around Kansas head coach David Beaty as Beaty leaves the field for his final time as head coach following Friday's 24-17 loss to Texas at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas offensive lineman Alex Fontana (53) puts his arm around Kansas head coach David Beaty as Beaty leaves the field for his final time as head coach following Friday's 24-17 loss to Texas at Memorial Stadium.

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Former Kansas football coach David Beaty hasn’t traded in his crimson and blue gear for burnt orange.

But, according to Texas head coach Tom Herman, Beaty, who spent his final days with the Jayhawks preparing to try and defeat the Longhorns, now will at least play some small part in helping them out.

During Monday’s Big 12 Championship Teleconference, Herman was asked about a report from Orangebloods.com that Beaty would be consulting the UT coach as he and his staff prepared for the Longhorns’ conference title game matchup with Oklahoma.

"Any time you have an opportunity to gain some knowledge of what an opponent saw of you in their breakdowns of you, you want to see that," Herman said. "It's pretty standard stuff. I don't know why it's that big of a deal."

Reached by the Journal-World, Beaty declined to comment on the reported arrangement.

Herman and Beaty worked together closely as assistant coaches at Rice, in 2007. Herman was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, while Beaty oversaw receivers and was the passing game coordinator.

During his Monday press conference, Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley was asked about Herman seeking input from Beaty.

"Coach Beaty can do what he wants to do. I don't like the precedent of it, of being able to bring in somebody from the league from the same year. I don’t think that’s good for the conference. But it's not against the rules, and if they want to do it, that's fine," Riley said.

Would Riley have someone coming in to help out OU?

“No comment,” a smiling Riley replied.

Rui KU’s most accurate kicker

A senior for KU in 2018, kicker Gabriel Rui leaves the program as its all-time leader in field-goal percentage, having connected on 78.4 percent of his attempts (29 of 37) these past two seasons.

Rui, who transferred to Kansas from Northeastern Oklahoma A&M;, also tied the program record for PAT percentage, making 100 percent of his tries in both 2017 and 2018.

A Hinton, Okla., native, Rui made a careerlong 54-yard field goal in the season opener, against Nicholls State. That puts him tied for seventh all-time in KU’s record books for longest field goal made.

Dineen semifinalist

Redshirt KU linebacker Joe Dineen was named a semifinalist for the Lott IMPACT Trophy.

Dineen was joined on the list of Lott semifinalists by Kentucky linebacker Josh Allen, Boston College defensive lineman Zach Allen, Washington linebacker Ben Burr-Kirven, Utah linebacker Chase Hansen, Duke linebacker Ben Humphreys, Cal linebacker Jordan Junaszyk and Clemson D-lineman Christian Wilkins.

Voting for the winner and finalists will take place in November and the 15th annual awards banquet will be Dec. 9.

Comments

Andy Tweedy 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Reading about Rui made me think about some of the KU kickers I've seen. Man, I sure loved Danny Eichloff!!! I was at the Ball State game when that dude blasted that 61 yarder...that was awesome!!!

Jeff Coffman 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Beaty worst coach ever to coach at KU...OU should be happy to have Beaty on the Burnt Orange sidelines.

I do think it is poor judgment on Beaty's and on Herman's side to do this. I think it is a bad precedent that we shouldn't want in college sports. It might be legal, but doesn't make it ethical. Especially since KU just played both of those teams. If he took any notebooks, plays, documents, video or anything from KU, I hope KU sues him for his entire buyout.

Plus I don't get why he is allowed to go do this, although he was terminated, his contract was left to pay through the entire time period (2 years), which means he should have to negotiate to go coach somewhere else.

I hope OU destroys Texas.

Brent Shipley 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Worst coach ever? Nah you are crazy. The two before him are even worse. Beaty loves the university and did some good things. He was not ready to be a HC and that was one of the biggest things to hurt him.

Sure we lost a lot but look at the teams and the improvement before opening your mouth.

Oh and before you get confused I am not saying he was a great coach or should be our coach.

Brett Hathaway 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Exactly, HE GONE!! Who cares.. The shelf life on DB would have been the same whether he won or lost. If he came here and won, he probably would be accepting the Tex Tech job for big dollars and a TX return anyway. So Godspeed my friend, hope we face you in competition one day and really test out your football competence!

Robert Brock 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Just when the Longhorns thought they were back - then they go and do something bizarre like this.

Waylon Cook 7 months, 4 weeks ago

I hope that OU can score 100!(texas could score 99 tho lol)

Steve Corder 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Ah, who cares whether UT calls in Mickey Mouse from Florida.

Kevin Robert Fest 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Beaty's key to victory? Call time out before 4th down

Kevin Robert Fest 7 months, 4 weeks ago

No seriously Beaty's keys to victory. 1) Have confused look on your face that is usually planted there after opening kickoff. 2) Wait until last second to send in plays, resulting in multiple delay of game penalties or using timeouts. 3) Keep switching QBs during the game. If one is more effective than the other, put in the worse of the 2 QBs. Resulting in multiple false start pensalties. 4) Leave gaping holes in defense, let OU tire themselves out with plays of 80 yards or longer.
5) Be sure to have a "walk around" guy.

Dirk Medema 7 months, 4 weeks ago

I was wondering on the drive home why there's still so much complaining and negative comments. Beaty is gone. He was the source of all our problems. We should be happy now.

Then I remembered the video online about bitchyface syndrome and realized some people just have male pattern bitchyface syndrome. MPBFS. Hmmm. Too bad it doesn't spell something catchy.

There's a country western song along those lines right? About the dog dieing or getting run over by a train or pickup and wife leaving?

Joe Black 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Teams share game film all the time. What is the big deal.

Jeff Coffman 7 months, 4 weeks ago

It is the property of KU and it is KU's to share, not former coach of KU. He is under contract and can not provide anything to a competitor, nor should he be able to work for another entity while still under contract.

Brent Shipley 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Once again you are an idiot. He is not under contract and is free to talk to any university that he would like. We owe him money but that doesnt stop him for moving on with his life.

Nobody is saying he is sharing the game film either. Not like it was on national TV or anything.......oh wait it was on Fox.......

Steven Haag 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Agreed. Good Grief. If these whiny pants are still whining about Beaty 6 months, 1 year, 2 years from now, then I will truly that deep down in, they are infatuated with Beaty. I think deep down in they like him😂😂😂😂

Andy Godwin 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Seems like a potentially smart move. First Beaty’s knowledge is not owned by KU, nor is he employed by the University. Beaty and staff just broke down both OU and UT and their collective schemes held UT to only 24 points (well under their season average) and allowed KU to hang 40 points on OU. Beaty is no longer employed by KU, so why not serve as a consultant (I am assuming a paid consultant).

Jeff Coffman 7 months, 4 weeks ago

I'm not sure your statement is correct. The agreement was that he wouldn't return as head coach, but that his contract would be set to be paid out over the contract. He is being paid by the University of Kansas for the next 2 years. I believe that he should negotiate out of the contract before he "consults" with another university. Although his knowledge is not KU property, if he took any notes, video, playbooks, etc., with him, those are the property of KU and now in his role he would not be authorized to share those with anyone outside of the program.

Brent Shipley 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Dude you just need to stop. Or how about Les cant talk to any other coach currently employed or being paid by a previous university.

Oh wait we pretty much offered him the job then he went to get a buy out because HIS contract was stated that way and had other rules and regulations he had to follow. Those also being in no other fired coach that I have ever seen or read about.

I sure hope that Les took notes, playbooks, etc from his past and is bringing them with him.

Steven Haag 7 months, 4 weeks ago

In the end, it just doesn’t matter. OU will beat Texas........AND Ohio State will get the last spot in the CFP.

Jonathan Allison 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I for one think that it's kinda cool that Texas is consulting Beaty for game-planning help against OU.

Beaty just got done scouting both teams and his team outperformed expectations both times, and besides the guy is looking for a new job as a position coach and maybe as a coordinator (though I likely wouldn't hire him as OC at this point). So it pays to play nice with other Coaches and pitch in and help out when called upon. This guy is an optimist and a team player and he's moving on and doing what he does.

Good for him.

Jerry Ryan 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Idiotic statements about Beaty helping another coach analyze their opponent. There is no rule against it. He is not employed by KU and the university can not control where he uses his knowledge or who he helps unless there’s some contractual obligations not yet disclosed. Haters going to pick at Beaty cause that makes you feel good. But ask yourself, where do you think Garrett Riley is this week and where is your “outrage” about it? #stupidpeople. There’s more of them than us.

Eric Eakins 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Thank you Rui for coming to KU and honing your craft. It has certainly been nice not to pull what little hair I have left out because of the kicking game. It was just a year or two before Rui that we started going for it on 4th down in field goal range because we had no hope of scoring on a field goal and even extra points was stressful. I hope Rui has been mentoring his backup. RCJH.

Randy Bombardier 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Tom, first you get yourself a Pooka. Long pause. What next David? Give him the ball. But make him earn it. Anything else? Nope, that's about it.

Mike Hart 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Wait a minute.. .I thought Beaty was such a moron... such a lousy recruiter... such an imbelic head coach... why on Earth would anyone want or respect his opinion on anything? Yet, the Beaty detractors care that Beaty is now using his "talents" or coaching "acumen" to assist Tom Herman? If coaches are friends.. then they are going to leverage each other, whether it happens publicly or behind closed doors.

It's just one more thing for the "I hate David Beaty" club to criticize him for. He was criticized at every turn for everything he did the last 2 years.. .why not continue to criticize every move he makes now? I mean it took less than 24 hours for the KU football program to erase his name on their on-line website and replace it with Les Miles once the KU-OU game ended... less than 24 hours. Yet we want to criticize Beaty for not honoring his contract with KU? So we are adding "unethical" to Beaty's list of foibles. That's priceless...

Timothy Grillot 7 months, 3 weeks ago

First of all regarding potential inside information that is more than likely irrelevant since we have a new coach. Teams share film all the time. Conference teams probably have some contractual obligation to share with other members when requested. With that said, a couple of interesting things stand out in this situation. Although KU should probably not care what Beaty does (or may not be able to legally under his buy out) probably something should at least be said so that this situation is not poster board material for OU for next year. Basically, something to the extent we do not condone or approve and since he is no longer employed he may do what he wants but we find it in poor taste. Not over the top condemnation because then it goes up on the wall at UT. I have been wondering how the buyout is worded? Does any payments he receive offset what we owe him? Not sure there but based upon Perkins' contract with Gill on buyout nothing would surprise me that he would be free to collect millions and not pay anything back. So with all that said maybe the better route is to take the high road and ignore it or if asked we did not approve it. Additionally, we are all KU fans quit calling each other morons and the like. Although we all agree Beaty was not a head coach that does not mean he cannot help as an assistant. Clearly, his prior experience had some merit just not enough to be an effective head coach.

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