Monday, October 9, 2017

Beaty doesn’t plan to name starting QB ahead of trip to ISU

Kansas quarterback Carter Stanley (9) throws a pass during the first quarter on Saturday, Oct. 7, 2017 at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas quarterback Carter Stanley (9) throws a pass during the first quarter on Saturday, Oct. 7, 2017 at Memorial Stadium.


Now that the starting quarterback job is back in a state of flux on his Kansas football team, head coach David Beaty doesn’t plan on naming a No. 1 QB ahead of the Jayhawks’ upcoming trip to Iowa State.

Beaty waited the entirety of the offseason before officially awarding junior Peyton Bender the job on the day of KU’s season opener the first week of September, and Bender has started every game since.

However, redshirt sophomore Carter Stanley featured prominently in the game plan for the first time this season on Saturday against Texas Tech. And when Bender didn’t provide Kansas with the results asked of him much of the first half, Beaty and his staff played Stanley at QB the rest of the way.

Immediately after the loss, Beaty said he didn’t know whether Bender would be back as the starter for the following game, at ISU (11 a.m., Saturday, FOX Sports Net). He stuck with that stance Monday on the Big 12 coaches media teleconference.

“You guys know me. I’m never going announce a starter,” Beaty said. “I just don’t do it. I don’t think it gives us an advantage. I think it makes it a little tougher on the defense.”


Kansas quarterback Peyton Bender (7) slings a pass to a receiver during the first quarter on Saturday, Oct. 7, 2017 at Memorial Stadium.

Bender, who watched the entire second half of a blowout loss from the sideline, went 12-for-24 through the air for 146 yards, with one touchdown and one interception.

Stanley, the starter in KU’s final three games of 2016 but a bystander the majority of the first four games this year, while he also recovered from a break in his right throwing hand, completed 11 of 19 throws versus Texas Tech for 110 yards, with an interception and no touchdowns.

More mobile than Bender, Stanley also gained 19 yards rushing — though 14 yards lost via a sack, a negative run and lost fumble left him with a net running total of five yards.

“And, you know, from our standpoint we have two very, very capable quarterbacks that can help us,” Beaty said.

Using both QBs didn’t help KU (1-4 overall, 0-2 Big 12) much against the Red Raiders. But Iowa State (3-2, 1-1) implemented the strategy to great success in a marquee upset victory at Oklahoma, where Kyle Kempt did the majority of the passing (18-for-24, for 343 yards and three TDs) and linebacker Joel Lanning played the part of the part-time, run-threat QB.

“I’m not saying we’re going to use that; I’m not saying we’re not going to use it,” Beaty said of sticking with the two-QB offensive game plan another week. “But there’s some merit to being able to use both those guys, because both of them have very different skill sets that can give you an advantage.”

On the year, Bender has completed 114 of 202 throws for 1,373 yards, with eight touchdowns and eight interceptions (most in the Big 12). Stanley didn’t attempt a pass in a game until the loss to Texas Tech.

“It’ll be no different from how we prepare each week,” Beaty said of how he plans to handle the renewed QB competition. “All of our guys know they’re only as good as their next snap and that comes from a positive point of view, not a negative point of view. It’s all about competition each and every day, getting yourself ready to play.”


Aaron Paisley 2 years, 2 months ago

Bender can stretch the field, Stanley can open up the read option. If I was an opposing coordinator, I'd leave a single high safety when Bender is in to take away the deep ball and crowd the line when Stanley is in since he doesn't have a strong arm and floats his deep passes which gives a DB time to find it in single coverage.

Since Chase Harrell is KU's only real deep threat that can go get a jump ball, the smaller guys need to be used in motions, jet sweeps, end around, and plays like that to create the open field they need to succeed. I hate east-west play, but KU has guys that are fast enough to take advantage of stuff like that and they need to do it to help out the between the tackles running and to help create one on one match ups with LB's on receivers and other advantageous match ups. Chip Kelly's Oregon offense should be the model for KU's current personnel.

John Fitzgerald 2 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if Meacham will be around next year? If I were him I'd start taking offers and get the heck out.

Austin Lopez 2 years, 2 months ago

Meacham is the only coach that actually is producing some what.

Adam Engelbrecht 2 years, 2 months ago

Yeah but why would he stay when his team is getting creamed and the head coach overrules you on important decisions all the time? Can't be fun to be Meacham.

Brett McCabe 2 years, 2 months ago

Meachem's offense ranks 9th in a 10-team conference in offensive scoring. This is the third year of the Air Raid. Stanley and Bender were both recruited specifically because they had played in a similar offense.

While our defense has been stunningly bad, it's confusing to come on here and read comments that suggest that the offense has been good. We're next to last and falling.

Jim Baker 2 years, 2 months ago

Thumbs Up! I finally agree with you about something. Defense of the Defense is a whole 'nother subject. Too much time on the field! I know this may sound stupid, but it has crossed my mind more than a couple of times over the last few years: "What if..." KU has tried TOO hard to continually recruit the next to best QB talent that wants to transfer schools. How about giving the nod to Stanley after he rose to the top of the talent pool (IMO should have been there all year) and if PB wants to come in to supplant him, then come on down. Just sayin', stick with a target and develop him by giving him more reps. Mangino was sold on Reesing and recognized what he could become and had the brains to tell Kerry Meier that he was not going to be QB for long. Injury aside, I think it should have said publicly that it was Stanley's job, perhaps to lose. Again going back to Mangino, he turned KM into a NFL caliber WR and used him in Wildcat formations. Couldn't Stanley or Bender be asked to use their athleticism to at least be on the field at the same time to create some mismatches or confusion?

Austin Lopez 2 years, 2 months ago

Kansas should be running a read option offense, our personal fits more of a read option than a air raid offense. So coach Beaty ran off Ryan Willis and Montell Cozart for Bender the turnover machine? Kansas should be going with a young QB, or I forgot Beaty doesn't know how to develop a QB.

Bryan Schmiedeler 2 years, 2 months ago

Does anyone believe that we gain any advantage by not naming our QB? There are so many things wrong with our program now, I think this is a total waste of time. Probably overall detrimental as I would want my starting QB to know they are the starting QB.

Len Shaffer 2 years, 2 months ago

I agree that it likely doesn't make any difference, but what does it hurt? And just because he hasn't told the public doesn't mean that the starting QB doesn't know.

Adam Engelbrecht 2 years, 2 months ago

“It’ll be no different from how we prepare each week,” Beaty said of how he plans to handle the renewed QB competition.

Oh good. So another blowout, continuing to make KU football look like the laughing stock it is on a national scale. Goody.

Jerry Walker 2 years, 2 months ago

Not naming a QB doesn't bother me near as much as watching Bowen's game plan and defense getting plundered every week. Has Keegan or any of his staff confronted Beaty concerning Bowen's performance?

Doug Cramer 2 years, 2 months ago

Was hoping to wake up this morning to an announcement regarding our defensive coordinator.

Bville Hawk 2 years, 2 months ago

There is no waking up, this is like a bad dream that you can't wake up from

Bryce Landon 2 years, 2 months ago

When Turner Gill was fired, I was brazen enough to say on these boards, "Woohoo! The nightmare is finally over!"

How wrong I was. The nightmare had only just begun.

Chris Bailey 2 years, 2 months ago

Does he plan on waiting until Saturday to announce our DC as well?

Bruce Bertsch 2 years, 2 months ago

If you have two qbs you really have no qb. Combine that with a defense that can't stop the run or the pass and you have this year's version of KU Football. The initial issue I had with Beatty is his insistence on running the air raid offense without having the personnel to do it. It is the coach's job to give the team the best opportunity to succeed. Run an offense that fits the personnel and find some kids that want to play defense. The current DC has been here for the recruitment of all off these players, its time he is held accountable.

Lance Cheney 2 years, 2 months ago

Maybe we should name our starting QB right now (whose last name better not rhyme with "Fender"), since the genius strategy of not naming the QB has gotten us absolutely nowhere.

Robert Brock 2 years, 2 months ago

The nation holds its breath in anticipation.

Brad Sherp 2 years, 2 months ago

Beaty is so focused on keeping the depth chart a secret that he forgot to coach the team.

Doug Fogleman 2 years, 2 months ago

I wish we could just run a pass route passed the first down marker. Its third and four and we don't have a receiver that can go six yards before catching a pass.

Bender has this big arm and 90% of our passes are less than five yards down field. The opposing D backs never get off the line of scrimmage.

Austin Lopez 2 years, 2 months ago

You would think with all us passionate Kansas fans throwing our opinions out there negative and positive that our football team would start working there asses off to get better but all I see is our players playing like they don't care and with no confidence.

Brian Wilson 2 years, 2 months ago

Depth is the issue.....have you ever tried to learn 200 plays as an Offensive Right guard and then tried to figure out your responsibility against all the 3-4, 4-3 defenses and all all their variants just to get put in the game at Left guard and be expected to know that side of the line as well. Or maybe even being switched to tackle when you've been studying and working to be a guard? When the team is this low on depth, and you are filling holes with freshman, walkons and transfers.....what do you expect. Depth is everything. When you are Texas Tech and can afford to keep most players at his position all four the time they are Seniors they know what the hell they are doing. God forbid us leaving a coach in place long enough for that to happen or for him to recruit four full classes before passing judgement. This is all about team depth.....and knowing the plays and the system so well you could play the game in your sleep. Instead you all expect a turn around to happen in two years when we are playing with Junior and Senior tiddly winks - walkons and transfers. Beatty needs two more years to fill the stable and break in the horses. Leave him alone. In the meantime our players are getting the **** kicked out of them....keep your heads up guys!

Richard Duran 2 years, 2 months ago

Why the hell not? he ruined Cozart and Willis doing this garbage. I don't think the opponent really cares who starts at QB. The competent coaches at our opponent schools can prepare their teams without knowing who they're facing.

How does this help us at all? Meachem should just F it and start running play action.

Beatty is in no way a head coach. He's not proven to be a good recruiter and he is following Weiss' blueprint for ruin.

he and Zenger gotta go.

Jack Hoff 2 years, 2 months ago

Thats bullcrap. If there is one thing Beaty has proven he can do that is recruit. Considering how atrocious the mess is that he inherited, he has recruited fairly well. He recruited the pre season defensive player of the year...

Richard Duran 2 years, 2 months ago

Where is the stud QB Beatty's recruited? where is the group of red shirts that will be the foundation of our team in the next few years? where are the DBs waiting to replace the seniors who almost all got NFL tryouts? There is a reason Bender didn't start at Wassu, just like there was a reason Dayne Christ and Jake Heaps lost their jobs. I see three guys he's brought in that could play anywhere else in the big 12: Armstrong, Lee and Herbert. Ok Daniel wise, thats 4. Meantime, there are 2 scholarships being wasted on Charlot and Baldwin. Would a truly great talent evaluator be in the mess he is now?

Jeff Coffman 2 years, 2 months ago

This is smoke...Bowen should be gone. The fact Beaty does this every other game helps me think it is time to pull the plug on him. We need someone who can coach up talent.

Steve Corder 2 years, 2 months ago

There was once an old coach who had a spot-on, gut-knowing, instinct to recognize when a player wasn't competing. God help the kid, because a volcano erupted....Why? Because getting whipped for lack of ability/talent didn't phase the old man. Wasted athletic, God gifted talent, is the most frustrating part of coaching.

There obviously two sides of this debacle. The old man didn't care as much about "family" as he did about squeezing out every ounce of effort from his players. At times it wasn't pretty, but the kids ultimately were better for it. One of them eventually would earn a World Series MVP.

Eliott Reeder 2 years, 2 months ago

Awww yeah! Now we got them right where we want them! ISU’s gonna have sleepless nights all week long worrying about who we’re gonna start against them. Man, if only Beatty had thought of this brilliant strategic move earlier in his career, he might have won more games. Keep them guessing coach, they won’t know how to adjust when they see big bad Bender or Hurricane Carter trotting out there. I bet they’re shaking in their cleats!!!

Gunnar Hays 2 years, 2 months ago

Being as though Iowa State just beat Baker Mayfield while playing a backup quarterback themselves, I seriously doubt KU's announcement (or lack there of) about who is starting QB will deeply concern them. Unless maybe Beaty reveals Tom Brady is an option.

Its possible Iowa State will have a bit of a hangover from the big win in Norman and the Hawks can get out of the gate quickly to make a competitive game. Rest assured though, the Cyclone fans will pack into Jack Trice Stadium ready to go, and if its another bad 1st quarter for KU the rest of the game will be hard to watch.

Layne Pierce 2 years, 2 months ago

Fact is, I like coach Beatty, but qb is the least of our problems. Our offense scores points sometimes, but it puts the defense, which is inept, in horrible positions. I seriously believe that rather than speed up the game, we should probably run the play clock down to 2 seconds, every other play. The longer the game goes, the more outmached we look.

I am also getting tired of chasing the rainbow of the run and gun offense, when we don't have, and probably will not ever have the line, receivers, or quarterback at one time to run it.

We are a mule obsessed with being a race horse. We need to run the clock down, run at least half of the time, and especially at the beginning of the game, and each half, and fight for first downs that keep the defense off the field, and we need to stop this thing of giving the opponent great field possession for a half at a time.

Lastly, I don't give a damn what offense we run, but whatever it is, is should maximize the strengths of our players, and minimize their deficiencies, and frankly that is what I think head coaching is really all about.

We need discipline, and I don't mean yelling or screaming at the players, but rather, the Mason, Mangino kind of discipline, that if you screw up on the basics, you won't be playing for awhile. A point guard with too many turnovers won't be playing for Coach Bill.

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