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Wednesday, August 2, 2017

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Tom Keegan: Kansas quarterback competition has everything but controversy

Spring football came and went at the University of Kansas without Peyton Bender or Carter Stanley wowing head coach David Beaty to the point of naming a starting quarterback for the 2017 season.

Spring football came and went at the University of Kansas without Peyton Bender or Carter Stanley wowing head coach David Beaty to the point of naming a starting quarterback for the 2017 season.

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Peyton Bender and Carter Stanley take the fun out of what could be a percolating quarterback controversy because they’re good friends, roommates even.

The coaches take the edge off of it by pointing out that in today’s world, thanks in part to closer attention paid to head injuries, nearly every team needs two quarterbacks to get through a season anyway. And they’re right.

Sadly, we can’t call the Bender-Stanley competition a controversy. Bummer.

Oh well, it still offers the thrill of trying to guess which one will stand in the shotgun for the opening offensive play of the 2017 football season.

To the best of my knowledge, Las Vegas doesn’t offer a Bender-Stanley proposition so there is no way to wager legally and officially, so spare the flight and make the wager with Monopoly money. I’ll set the fake odds by making Bender a 5-to-2 favorite to get the first start of the season.

Bender, a fourth-year junior who has played at Washington State and Itawamba Community College in Mississippi, and Stanley, a third-year sophomore who has played only at Kansas, both played high school football in the state of Florida. And they both have played a version of the Air Raid since their high school days. They are not far apart in size, Stanley having an inch and six pounds on Bender, who is 6-foot-1, 190 pounds.

Other than that, they have more differences than similarities.

As uncertainty swirls around the right-tackle spot, the question of whether the quarterbacks will have ample time to find receivers and avoid getting planted on the turf lurks like a massive, dark-gray cloud threatening to dump on the cautious optimism for a Kansas offense that has been in torpor for the past seven years.

In the event the pass protection breaks down, Bender and Stanley have different means of surviving. Bender uses his quick release, Stanley his quick feet.

First-year Kansas offensive coordinator/receivers coach Doug Meacham is in his 12th season as a Big 12 offensive assistant coach. So when he talks football, he tends to reference Big 12 names, which is nice.

Meacham’s first season at TCU coincided with quarterback Trevone Boykin’s emergence as a Heisman Trophy contender.

“Trevone was an athlete guy who could run around and you could do a few things with him that way,” Meacham said. “Carter Stanley has a hint of that whereas Bender might be more of a traditional (former Texas Tech quarterback) Graham Harrell type.”

Beaty offered interesting insights recently on the skills Stanley and Bender use to counter pressure.

“Carter’s athletic and he was able to elude some things,” Beaty said. “He can extend plays on his own. . . . That’s what you look for. You look for a guy who can do some things on his own because it’s very rarely the way we teach it: Taking a three-stop drop, set there, everything looks pretty and good, you throw it. It doesn’t work like that very often. There are a lot of mean dudes running at you.”

Making “mean dudes” miss by running away from them isn’t the only way to thwart them.

Bender’s not a runner, so it’s his blink-and-you-missed-it release that puts pass-rushers into lousy moods.

“You heard our guys talk a little bit earlier about how quickly they got the ball out at Texas Tech, well, that frustrates a guy like Dorance Armstrong because he can’t get to the quarterback because the ball’s out so quick,” Beaty said. “The thing when you watch Peyton, he is protecting himself because his release is so quick that most guys would get hit and he gets it off clean. Most guys are going to get it off, but they’re going to get hit at the final motion and that affects the accuracy.”

Since the day Bender signed with Kansas, Beaty has talked about how Bender is anything but “most guys” in terms of his release.

“This kid gets it off so dad-gum quick and he finishes the motion so quick that he protects himself,” Beaty said. “Being able to sit behind him this year in (spring) practice was really fun to watch because you see the value of that kind of a release.”

Linebacker Joe Dineen played safety and quarterback for Free State High, so he knows a little about the qualities that make a successful QB.

Dineen shared what he liked about each teammate.

“Carter’s thing is he’ll expand plays. The pressure from Dorance (Armstrong) and Daniel (Wise) will get to him and he’ll roll out and make a play,” Dineen said. “That’s what I like about Carter: He’s fast and athletic.”

And Bender?

“The thing about Peyton is he can sling it and he’s easily the most accurate passer I’ve seen,” Dineen said. “He can just sit back there and pick you apart. If he has time, which I think he will, he’ll make some things happen. I’m excited to see how camp goes.”

Naturally, Dineen was careful not to sound as if he favored one QB over the other.

“Both those guys can get it done,” Dineen said. “Whatever coach Beaty decides, I think they both can get it done. Carter showed he can win a game (against Texas) and he competed. And Peyton, throughout spring, had a great spring.”

The competition is far from over, but if Bender is as accurate as Dineen says, he’ll be difficult to beat out.

Comments

Phil Leister 2 weeks, 2 days ago

Odds that Beaty doesn't name either of them a starter, and uses them the way he used Cozart/Willis last year?

Chris DeWeese 2 weeks, 2 days ago

Man, I hope he doesn't do that again. That was infuriating to watch. I think you've got to give either guy at least 3-5 games without subbing (barring injury) to show he can hack it.

John Fitzgerald 2 weeks, 2 days ago

I for one think Beaty learned his lesson on that. Also, being that the offense is Meacham's I'm sure he'll have a big pretty say on what happens. But having said that, If Beaty doesn't name a starter by game 2 (I believe game 1 we'll see a significant amount of both) then I'll sell my season tickets. There is zero proof that playing two QB's every game works. Also, you're going to run the same style offense and call the same plays regardless of what QB is in. If you play two it's because they have such significantly different games and it can throw off the defense. So, again to my point, if Beaty again decides to play the 'QB by committee' game brace yourself for another heart breaking year.

Jacob Zutterman 2 weeks, 2 days ago

Carter must've put on some weight during the offseason. Never would've thought Bender being smaller than Carter

John Fitzgerald 2 weeks, 2 days ago

I believe Bender's quick release and accuracy will land him the starting job, even though I've favored Stanley because of his 2 years of experience under Beaty and our unlucky streak with transfer QB's. But regardless none of this matters if the OL can't protect them. If they give Bender and/or Stanley time, I think either one will be an improvement from what we've had lately.

Skyler Owen 2 weeks, 2 days ago

I wonder if Tyreik Starks is anywhere close to being considered for a shot at running the offense he seems more like a Trevone Boykin than either of these two. I'm all for Stanley or Bender as the leader whoever separates themselves from the pack and can the run the offense to its full potential just don't hear much of Starks being mentioned. Hate to be the fan who thinks the practice squad QB is always the best but if we could get a pretty sizeable lead in say the SEMO game why not let him play and see what he can do in mop up time.

Brock Wells 2 weeks, 2 days ago

My guess: Tyreik was extremely raw coming out of high school and needed a couple years to develop. With Carter showing us that he can win a big 12 game and Bender's experience no need to rush Tyreik unless they both go down.

Randy Bombardier 2 weeks, 2 days ago

I'm guessing that one thing that makes Meacham a good O coordinator is his ability to recognize the guy who can fit into the system.

Therefore, I'm not worried. I think each has advantages but I suspect Bender will get the nod because he has a higher ceiling in the O scheme as I understand it. If we were to utilize more of the read option as during Reesings tenure perhaps Stanley would be better. I hope both get some start time and Starks as well.

2 weeks, 2 days ago

'five-to-two' favorite? "5:2" isnt that the same as 2.5:1 ? how is worse than 'even' odds a favorite with just two guys competing? don't you mean a 2:5 favorite? wager 5 to win 2, not wager 5 to win 12.5...?

Dillon Davis 2 weeks, 1 day ago

If Bender really is an accurate passer then he should get the job. It does no good to have a quick release if it means you are gonna throw the ball away or have it intercepted. I am rooting for Stanley because of what we saw last year and he can move, but if Bender is truly a good passer then I'm all for it.

Bryce Landon 2 weeks, 1 day ago

Personally I'm leaning toward Stanley because he's the closest thing we've had to a competent quarterback since Todd Reesing was under center.

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