Thursday, July 14, 2016

KU tapped last, but it’s not unanimous

KU coach David Beaty celebrates an early score in the Jayhawks' 45-14, season-ending loss to Kansas State on Saturday, Nov. 28, 2015, at Memorial Stadium.

KU coach David Beaty celebrates an early score in the Jayhawks' 45-14, season-ending loss to Kansas State on Saturday, Nov. 28, 2015, at Memorial Stadium.


When the results of the 2016 preseason Big 12 football media poll were released on Thursday, it came as no surprise that Oklahoma was the overwhelming favorite to win the conference, securing 258 points and 24 of 26 first-place votes.

What did come as a surprise, however, popped up at the opposite end of the poll, where the Kansas Jayhawks were voted last but not in unanimous fashion.

KU finished a distant 10th in the voting, earning 27 points compared to 59 for ninth-place Iowa State. But simple math indicates that exactly one member of the Big 12 media contingent that voted in the poll picked the Jayhawks to finish ninth instead of 10th during David Beaty’s second season as KU’s head coach.

That’s 25 points for last-place nods from 25 of the 26 voters and two more for a ninth-place vote of confidence from voter No. 26.

This year marked the sixth consecutive season that Kansas football was picked last in the Big 12 preseason poll.

Since the inception of the conference in 1996, which began as a 12-team league with a north and south division, the Jayhawks now have been picked to finish at the bottom of the conference or their division 10 times.

Iowa State, which will be under the guidance of first-year coach Matt Campbell, hired this offseason to replace the fired Paul Rhoads, has been picked last eight times.

This year, however, the Cyclones finished one spot in front of KU after landing two players on the preseason all-Big 12 offense, running back Mike Warren and wide receiver Allen Lazard.

Kansas State, which was picked to finish eighth by the media, landed five players on the preseason all-Big 12 team, including four on defense.

KU did not have any players named on the preseason all-Big 12 first team.

While Oklahoma enters the season as the heavy favorite to win its record 10th Big 12 title this season, the rest of the conference standings seemed harder to predict. Second-place TCU, which earned 222 points and the other two first-place votes, and seventh-place West Virginia (126) were separated by less than 100 points, with Oklahoma State (202), Baylor (156), Texas (151) and Texas Tech (141) rounding out third through sixth.

2016 Big 12 Football Media Preseason Poll

*First-place votes in parentheses

  1. Oklahoma (24) – 259

  2. TCU (2) – 222

  3. Oklahoma State – 202

  4. Baylor – 156

  5. Texas – 151

  6. Texas Tech – 141

  7. West Virginia – 126

  8. Kansas State – 88

  9. Iowa State – 59

  10. Kansas – 27


Aaron Paisley 5 years, 3 months ago

Another couple of years and we'll be back to the good ol days of Kansas and Baylor fighting for last.

Brett McCabe 5 years, 3 months ago

Was listening to sports talk yesterday after the announcement that Rhodes is leaving mu for Baylor. It's a clear move to try and get the Houston coach, who worked for Rhodes, signed up to replace Briles. If that happens, I'd put fairly big money on Briles going back to Houston - though I think he'll be a pretty hot commodity in spite of the issues this year, so a P5 job might be out there (not sure who might be looking).

I don't know enough about the Baylor situation to know if Briles is untouchable, though, so Houston could be a pretty soft landing.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 3 months ago

Houston is the better job right now and will be for quite awhile. They just built a new stadium just like Baylor, they pay just like Baylor, you can recruit there just like Baylor, and there's no NCAA cloud hanging over UH like there is Baylor. The conference schedule is also much easier at UH and it's not hard for them to schedule home and homes with major programs because major programs recruit in Houston.

Briles is untouchable right now at the college level because he still doesn't believe he really did anythong wrong with the way he ran his program and he's probably going to end up with a show cause which will make him unhireable to a college program. Briles will likely end up in the NFL in 2017 as his next job.

As long as Baylor has this scandal hanging over theor heads, they will not be able to attract a top level coach.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 3 months ago

Art Briles is toxic. No program worth its salt would hire him.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 3 months ago

Brides is a Texas football legend. There is a battle going on between Dallas and Houston for Briles. The Cowboys want him but I'm not sure for what position. Houston obviously wants him badly to keep the program in Top 25 as they make the final push to get in the Big 12. Entry into the Big 12 is THE priority for UH .... and UT will do all they can to keep UH out!

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 3 months ago

UH is not dumping $3 mil/year Herman for Briles. Briles will end up in the NFL because he is too much of a PR nightmare for ANY college team right now.

Robert Brock 5 years, 3 months ago

Eventually the Hawks will be battling it out in the Mountain West.

Mike Barnhart 5 years, 3 months ago

Nope! Power conferences may be driven by football but they still have to fill a TV schedule from December to March and KU basketball is a prized piece in that mega-million dollar puzzle.

Eliott Reeder 5 years, 3 months ago

I'm sorry, but putting that photo of Beatty pumping his fist at the top of an article about a SINGLE media member out there voting us into second to last place is pretty hilarious. Wait, what!?! It wasn't unanimous? YES!!! LOL. I hope we prove them all wrong! Rock Chalk!!!

David Robinett 5 years, 3 months ago

Well yes I know you kicked our arse the last few years but even so...

Brett McCabe 5 years, 3 months ago

I have to say that I am a bit stunned at how well the new coach at ISU is doing in recruiting. Not a knock on him, I don't really know much about him, but holy cow has he hit the ground running. I've been to Ames, I've seen their facilities. Ames ain't much and the facilities are middle-of-the-road. This guy must really know what he's doing and how to do it.

Bryce Landon 5 years, 3 months ago

In other words, he's doing what Fred Hoiberg used to do and what Steve Prohm probably also does - give players extra benefits to play in a piece-of-crap town like Shames.

Doug Cramer 5 years, 3 months ago

4 wins this year for KU.

With the experience our young linemen got last year...and the young depth in the trenches we have...combined with great coaching and better bodies from a year ago...I think we win 4.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 3 months ago

4 is a bit of a stretch DC, but I like your style. Get some Hawks!!!

Kevin Robert Fest 5 years, 3 months ago

Name the other 2 wins assuming we beat RI and Ohio. Ist? Kst? Maybe get a shocker over TCU or TT?

Doug Cramer 5 years, 3 months ago

All three non-con games and Iowa State.

If we don't win all three non-cons...then we win 2 non-cons...Iowa St...and sneak a win somewhere else like WVA.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 3 months ago

Doug The challenge is that those players that got experience last year are still just young underdeveloped players. They're more experienced than last year yes but they still need another year.

Brad Sherp 5 years, 3 months ago

Does the survey show who voted for KU to place 9th? I am very curious....

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