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Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Kansas leads country in lottery picks

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, left, congratulates Andrew Wiggins of Kansas who was selected by the Cleveland Cavaliers as the number one pick in the 2014 NBA draft, Thursday, June 26, 2014, in New York. (AP Photo/Jason DeCrow)

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, left, congratulates Andrew Wiggins of Kansas who was selected by the Cleveland Cavaliers as the number one pick in the 2014 NBA draft, Thursday, June 26, 2014, in New York. (AP Photo/Jason DeCrow)

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Business Insider Australia has written a short piece that gives Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self some valuable ammo in recruiting.

Over the last 15 NBA Drafts, KU leads all colleges in lottery picks (top 14) with 13 — three more than any other school. North Carolina, Duke and UConn have had 10 lottery picks apiece in that span, followed by Kentucky (8), Arizona (7), Texas and Syracuse (6), Florida, UCLA and Indiana (5) and Georgetown (4).

KU has had eight lottery picks in the last five years, including last year’s No. 1 (Andrew Wiggins) and No. 3 (Joel Embiid). The article is available at http://ljw.bz/1Eiszcp

Mack chooses Texas: Tevin Mack, a 6-6 senior small forward from Dreher High in Columbia, South Carolina, who is ranked No. 61 in the Class of 2015 by Rivals.com, committed to Texas on Tuesday over Georgia and Clemson. Mack had KU on his list of schools until Sunday, when 6-5 LaGerald Vick committed to the Jayhawks.

Mack actually committed to coach Shaka Smart for the second time this school year. He signed to play for Smart’s VCU team but opted out of his letter-of-intent when Smart accepted the Longhorns job.

“It was the relationship that was the main thing. I signed with him in the fall. He was the same person as six months ago,” Mack told The State newspaper.

The Longhorns have a three-man recruiting class that includes guards Eric Davis (Saginaw, Mich.) and Kerwin Roach (Houston, Texas).

“He has a unique blend of scoring, length and a really nice feel for the game,” Smart said Tuesday. “In particular, his ability to make shots from the outside is something that was extremely attractive to us in the fall and remains extremely attractive to us now. Personality-wise, he’s a great fit and he is very competitive.”

Big Ten switcheroo: Caleb Swanigan, a 6-8, 255-pound center from Fort Wayne, Indiana, who is ranked No. 19 in the Class of 2015, committed to Purdue on Tuesday after recently decommitting from Michigan State.

Recruiting note: KU has called to express interest in Providence freshman Paschal Chukwu, Rivals.com reported Tuesday. The 7-foot-2 center, who announced plans to transfer Monday in telling the Providence Journal he wanted “a change of scenery,” averaged 2.6 points and 2.4 rebounds his freshman campaign at Providence. Virginia has also called about Chukwu, ScoutFriars.com reported.

“While those numbers were modest, Cooley (Ed, head coach) and other members of the Friar coaching staff frequently linked the words ‘Paschal’ and ‘lottery pick’ when discussing Chukwu’s vast potential,” writes Kevin McNamara of the Providence Journal. “He is the highest-rated big man Cooley and his staff has ever recruited after he was ranked the 61st best prospect in the country by ESPN.com coming out of Fairfield (Conn.) Prep.”

McNamara added: “Filling Chukwu’s role will be next to impossible, at least in the 2015-16 season. The 20-year old owned great potential as a shot blocker and rebounder and owned excellent hands for a big man. That’s why he’ll be in great demand on the transfer wire over the next few weeks.”

Chukwu, a native of Nigeria, is expected to hear from a plethora of programs.

“The Chukwu thing, I was blown away by. I didn’t know he was unhappy,” coach Cooley told the Providence Journal. “It was a total shocker. It blew me completely out of the water.”

Providence coach Cooley was quite candid in discussing with the Providence Journal the issues of so many players transferring recently.

“Any kid, when they’re unhappy with anything, they think there’s a quick fix somewhere else. I call them the ‘microwave generation.’ It’s the age of instant gratification. Not many kids want to persevere if they don’t get what they want right away. The ones who do become like LaDontae Henton (one of Providence’s all-time leading scorers who progressed yearly at the school).”

Comments

Shannon Gustafson 3 years, 8 months ago

A 7'2" center would help our size issues a bit!

Kentucky may get 2-3 guys in the lottery this year so our big lead won't exist much longer. Still good to see we're in the lead currently. I wouldn't have guessed we had more than anyone else over either of those time spans.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 8 months ago

I took a look at this guy and he is pretty athletic although he could use a few pounds on his frame. I think this guy could thrive under Bill Self's high low offense. Maybe Embiid could give him a call.

Brian Wilson 3 years, 8 months ago

I mentioned Chuckwu in these blogs about 20 minutes after he announced. He is a great addition if we get him. However, he will have to redshirt and when eligible to play he will have 3 years remaining, which is the same as next year's incoming Freshman. This of course could affect the huge list of big men we have given offers to for next year. It also means we won't have the 7 foot shot blocker we could use in the middle next year. This move is looking toward 2016-17. On that note, he's obviously highly intelligent by using the extra year practicing with KU and playing in the WUG where Chuckwu could improve greatly.

It surprises me that the Providence coach is surprised. The best way to become a better player is to practice and play against the best competition. After March, when most recruiting is finished, if a player see's a bunch of open scholarships in the top 5-10 basketball schools it's obvious its time to level-up. KU, Duke, UK, UNC have all shown interest in last minute big men. The chances of a bigger payday and making the NBA from one of those is dramatically better. Especially KU. RCJHKU!

UK will likely only gain one lottery pick on us. Oubre will likely be a lottery pick.

Chris Shaw 3 years, 8 months ago

What's interesting is that all 8 of Kentucky's lottery picks have occurred in the last 5 years once Calipari got there in 2010. I guess going to 4 Final 4's in 5 years and winning a National Championship makes sense.

What's also interesting is that Coach K has only had 3 lottery picks in the last 5 years and has still managed 2 National Championships. Granted, Okafor and Winslow are gonna be lottety picks this year so that will be 5 but still.

KU, just like UK, has also managed 8 lottery picks since 2010. Xavier, Aldrich, Morii Twins, TRob, BMac, Wiggins and Embiid.

Finally, in the latest mocks I've seen Oubre as high as #10 to Miami and as a low as #17 to the Bucks. I thought the Bucks was interesting. I hadn't seen that but it would be intriguing to see Oubre and Parker play together. Not sure how that would work but it is intriguing.

As far as Clifff goes...I've only seen one instance where he's been included in the first round and that was #25 to San Antonio. I'm afraid Cliff is looking like a second rounder.

Benz Junque 3 years, 8 months ago

And Kentucky technically has nine if you count Enes Kanter, who never actually played a minute for Kentucky but was on their roster.

Chris Shaw 3 years, 8 months ago

Because it's called the "Business Insider Australia", doesn't that mean Kansas should have a direct pipeline to all the top talent from the land down under?

OVER/UNDER on 3 years before Kansas gets its next Australian Big Time Recruit?

Eric Dawson 3 years, 8 months ago

BI Australia is simply including an article written for the main BI site, so no real Aussie ties here. Here's the link to the original: http://www.businessinsider.com/nba-draft-lottery-2015-5. FWIW, the author Cork Gaines is an Iowa grad with a PhD from Fordham, so no apparent KU ties. In the "credit were due" department, based on the reference to the Aussie edition of BI, Bedore's first source for this story was Shay Wildeboor, Senior Writer for Rivals' JayhawkSlant site, who posted about this early yesterday evening, linking to the Aussie edition.

Mike Riches 3 years, 8 months ago

Chukwu may be a perfect way to round out our recruiting class this year. He would become eligible just as we lose 3-4 bigs after next season, and would have all next year to practice and develop under Self and Co. I don't know anything about him personally, but it's hard to argue against 7'2''!

Joe Joseph 3 years, 8 months ago

Agreed!

I just watched some of his highlights from high school and the kid appears to have good athleticism, agility, and even some touch. Hard to believe he barely sniffed the floor at Providence. He'd be a huge get for Bill Self!! HUGE!

Jonathan Allison 3 years, 8 months ago

As long as Chukwu played soccer and volleyball growing up I'll take him. We can always use more volleyball and soccer players on our basketball team.

Matt Woolley 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm awarding you post of the day btw. Bravo.

Matt Woolley 3 years, 8 months ago

If we land him I'm not sure that some people on this site won't have to go to the doctor from eating too much crow... Cough. Cough. Rodney. Cough. Cough.

Glen Miller 3 years, 8 months ago

Right!! The sky was falling just a few weeks ago and now our cup runeth over. I was a bit worried, but not the doomsday prophecy like some others. I have eaten my crow and enjoyed it lol

Rodney Crain 3 years, 8 months ago

Ahh Matt you should just stop this, it is becoming too funny. Never seen someone miss so many times on here. Wrong again!

Yup I am sure feeling that I was wrong(not really), when we have the 7th, 21st, 137th(on his second school commit now we did not even recruit him originally) and a possible transfer who is a proven 2 and 2 guy(who wants a change of scenery). WooHoo we are home free man. Have you been paying attention this is a weak recruiting class? All this new talent, cough, cough, added to an already outstanding team who limped home 8-6 cough cough. An Outstanding team who could not make it to the Sweet 16 for the second time in a row losing to a lower seed cough cough.

(this is sarcasm Matt just in case you did not know) - Your right Matt we have an outstanding(actually good) recruiting class (Cheick makes it good by himself btw). Put this stellar class with our stellar team, heck I don't even know why we play the games, just give us the trophies and let us take a victory lap during the season, we have earned it. Does it ever get cloudy on the planet you live in? (Say Hi to the unicorns for me).

Look back a year at how Cliff was being touted on this site. Like he was Okafor, That he owned Okafor, but he wasn't and he didn't. Freshman are mostly unknowns, especially at KU where they have to play defense and know the offense.

Pump the brakes Matt, we are a long way from OK. A long way!!! It only counts, when it counts, not in your head.

Not sure what you are crowing about. I have no idea actually. But when you figure it out, let me know how it tastes!

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

Rodney and Ben nearly choked to death. Pretty much everyone else took their medicine gracefully.

Matt Woolley 3 years, 8 months ago

Today I will be using YOUR OWN WORDS to prove that there is no pleasing you no matter what. Should be fun. Let’s get started.

“Which is why it is strange that we have not signed early many of the top 50-100 talent available to go along with the later period signees. We seem to be chasing some questionable recruits late now.”

Somehow Lagerald Vick doesn’t make you happy. But he is exactly what you wanted LOL. ^^^^ Just mad because we "didn't recruit him originally." Really good reason not to like a guy.

Then you say this:

“Waiting for 1-2 top ranked players to sign in the summer is fine.”

  • So waiting for Cheick and Jaylen is fine? Ok cool. Except you won’t stop complaining about it.

Well, then you would bring up how we still should have filled another scholarship already:

“To go into the season with an open scholarship is risky, period end of sentence.”

  • Duke'15 won NC with 11 Schol.
  • Duke ‘11 NC team with 11 Schol
  • KU ‘08 NC only used 12 Schol.
  • Florida ’07 won 11 Schol.
  • Florida ’06 won 10 Schol.
  • North Carolina ’05 won 12 Schol.

So to prove my point, 6 of the last 10 years a team has won a NC with less than 13 scholarship players. Also the time period OAD became a thing. Coincidence? Yea probably not. It is the new way of recruiting, and you are blind to it.

And “Stating that it is fine to have an open scholarship is an excuse, not a strategy.”

-Sorry, but Duke seams to be fine doing just that. Won the NC and has the #1 recruiting class. Still a projected top 10 team and still aren’t filling all 13 scholarships.

“We need developmental guys, our coaches speciality, in the program now so in 2-3 years when they are ready, we can plug them in and get contributions. There is no reason to sit on a scholarship for the second year in a row, in the hope that somebody drops out of the sky. It is risky. KU should be able to put together a full recruiting class.”

  • Then when we actually do this, nothing positive comes out of your mouth. You have a "should have already had it done" mentality. When really, who cares when we sign them? What if we had signed a lower ranked big man early and that scared Cheick away. Now we have the ability to have Cheick and get a 7'2 transfer with 3 years of eligibility. What an awful strategy.

“Although everyone is breathing easier I would still like to get a SG and Big to develop over a couple years. Mack and Papagiannis or Riak would round out a really good class for us.”

-Again, doing just what you have wanted. Got a SG in Vick and are working our butts off for a good future big. But again, only negativity.

You say you are looking at this “objectively.” But you provide no facts, no numbers, not anything but a clearly negative bias towards this years team.You are clearly the one seeing fictional characters.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 8 months ago

If we didn't get Cheick in the late spring, this class would have been a bust. But we did. We had ZERO recruits until the Spring signing period when Bragg committed. All the other top schools had multiple commits. Fortunately, we have a head coach who was capable (and a little lucky) of scrambling and landing 2 top picks.

Hopefully, at least one of these players will stick around more than one year. I remember when as player after player picked schools other than KU, there were a lot of concerned fans. Now, after the fact, some act as if they knew it all along.

Aaron Paisley 3 years, 8 months ago

Bragg committed in October and every other top level recruit Self was actively recruiting had already said they were waiting until spring to announce their decisions. It was also known for months that Cheick Diallo was Bill Self's top target in this class the entire time. Luck had very little to do with landing Diallo, time and effort was what landed Cheick Diallo. It has also been known for awhile that KU was going to have limited minutes available next season which also meant that most top recruits weren't going to come here anyway. KU is going to have a lot minutes available in the front court next season and a lot of back court minutes available in the 2017 class.

Chris Shaw 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm not sure what his proves. Everyone of those quotes probably stemmed from a different discussion and topic. I get you're trying to make someone a fool by quoting them but don't "sound bite" them. That's the problem with these message boards and especially our media.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 8 months ago

Doesn't matter who we recruit if we can't figure out how to beat MVC teams in the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament. Self could land every big recruit now till the end of time and win the Big 12 every single year now till the end of time; but until he can get his teams past the Round of 32, make a few more Final Four appearances, and win another national title or two, recruiting battles really don't mean that much. Nobody hangs banners for getting prize recruits to sign with your program.

Keith Gellar 3 years, 8 months ago

13 lottery picks..woohoo..lets hang a banner next to the "Andrew Wiggins 2014-15 ROY" banner...

seriously

you

guys

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm hoping Embiid can make a serious run at "Rookie of the Year" next season since he is still eligible. Back-to-back rookies of the year would be a nice feather in Self's cap.

Rob Bedford III 3 years, 8 months ago

KU has the most lottery picks since 2000. During that time KU has one NCAA title. Duke has 3, North Carolina 2 and UConn 2.

Rodney Crain 3 years, 8 months ago

Shh Obviosly they are looking for any positives (had to go to Australia for this one), any ones at all for our program in the off season.

There is no room Rob to bring in actual, real, realistic but negative, meaningful facts.

This is the "HAPPY PLACE", where Unicorns and Rainbows are Everywhere. Only Joy and Dreams are discussed here. Celebrate the program here or you risk being shouted down. Not even facts should be addressed here. It is sleepy time, dream, dream of only the good, see only the great, dismiss anyone, anyone, who does not follow the path.

Seriously great post!

Bryce Landon 3 years, 8 months ago

We like the Jayhawks. We'd like them more if they'd start playing defense, rebounding, and figure out how to extend their season past the NCAA Tournament's first weekend.

Rob Bedford III 3 years, 8 months ago

Thank you for proving Rodney correct on his post. I point out that several other school have done more with fewer lottery picks and you freak out.

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

UConn actually has 3 in that span. UConn, Dook and KU have all made the title game three times since 2000, but Dook and UConn are 3-0 and KU is 1-2.

KU and Dook each have 38 NCAA tournament wins in that span, ahead of everyone else.

Jesse Johnson 3 years, 8 months ago

Go back one more year to 1999 and UConn has 4. That's right, between 1999 (UConn's 1st title) and 2014, UConn won 4 national titles and surpassed KU in total NCAA National Titles (note that I was specific wording such that I am excluding the Helm's titles).

I know if you compare KU's entire body of work as a program that UConn can't compete, but it is frustrating that they now have more national titles than us (and the 2011 one should have been a KU title).

I am happy with everything Self has done and I have never really been worried about recruiting. I am somewhat frustrated with our post-season success and would really like to see some changes in that area.

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

UConn is the outlier, to be sure. They were not favored to win ANY of their titles. The only time they were a one seed, they beat a heavily favored Duke team to win it. Since, they've been a two (granted, that team was underseeded, but again Duke was the favorite), a 3 and a 7 seed and won the title.

The tournament is designed for upsets and intrigue.

Jesse Johnson 3 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, that is totally correct. UConn was nowhere near the best team in 2011 or 2014. Duke was NOT the best team in 2010. And so on and so forth... But you have to admit that the tournament is what you get the most excited for as a college basketball fan and it is therefore hard to just be satisfied with success in other areas.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 8 months ago

That is my biggest concern with this program. We are stuck in neutral with only three NCAA titles, while other programs are getting ahead of us. We can only hang our hats on Mario's Miracle for so long. Worse yet, it's taken us 63 years to win those three titles while other programs have won more titles in shorter time spans.

Suzi Marshall 3 years, 8 months ago

Brett - For a person I severely disagree with politically and socially, I enjoy many of your post.

Harlan Hobbs 3 years, 8 months ago

Sick enough of it to give up on the "fire Bill Self" bullxxxxx

John Pritchett 3 years, 8 months ago

I just don't understand why some people can't find any satisfaction and pride in the accomplishments of our Jayhawks. It's either the NC or failure for some. That's just sad.

Since 2000, KU has had some teams that were talented enough to win it all, but it's not always the most talented team that wins it all. See Kentucky last season. Stacked with NBA talent, but no NC. It happens. The NC is illusive, and a lot of things need to go your way to grab that title. It isn't the best measure of quality and success, unless you're a one-dimensional fan who can't appreciate all of the other achievements to be earned during a basketball season. For this type of fan, the entire season is just practice leading up to the tournament. If you're this type of fan, you're so focused on the destination that you're missing out on the joy of the journey. And given the infrequency of a national championship for even the historically very best of teams, you will never be satisfied. Not for any length of time.

Take pride in the many accomplishments of our Jayhawks. Don't focus on their failures, but appreciate their many successes. We have so much to be proud of. We're among the elite basketball programs, and deservedly so. We all want to win one more NC, but if you can't be satisfied without it, you have unreasonable expectations.

Was Kentucky the best team last year? Not if you use the national title as the only measure. Duke was the best. But was Kentucky a great team last year? One of the greatest college basketball teams in many years? Over the course of the season, they proved that they were, I think. In college basketball, it's not always in your power to be "the best", but over time, with consistent effort, you can prove that you're great. The Jayhawks have done that. Be proud and appreciate what we fans have been a part of over the years. We've been blessed.

  • An unashamed fan of Jayhawks basketball and Bill Self

Bryce Landon 3 years, 8 months ago

The national championship is elusive (not illusive, BTW)? Really? It hasn't been very elusive for Duke; they've won it five times in less than a quarter-century, including twice since our most recent appearance. Nor has it been elusive for Connecticut, with four titles in fifteen years, including twice since our last title.

I love the Jayhawks, but it's hard to love Bill Self when he keeps getting tripped up in the Dance by double-digit seeds, FCS programs, Missouri Valley teams. His March coaching leaves a lot to be desired. Actually, his coaching the last two seasons has left a lot to be deisred.

Michael Lorraine 3 years, 8 months ago

I applaud your passion and can appreciate your disappointment but you have got to be the most unrealistic Jayhawk fan alive.

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

He's just a troll. Same post over and over. He finally dropped the FIRE BILL SELF tag line, but the rest is just the same post, again and again.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 8 months ago

Not trolling, just fed up with the notion most of you bozos have that Self is above criticism.

Alex Resnik 3 years, 8 months ago

Bryce... you have to understand one thing. Not everyone is going to agree with you. Trying to prove your point over and over with the same argument just isn't working. As a KU fan, I am upset and embarrassed on how we have played in the tourny the last 10 years. There are ALOT of bad tournaments, but there are some good ones too. Take 2012, we had no business being in the national title game, but it just so happened the best team in the country made it there too and we lost. If you look at Ucon's national title in 2014 or 2011, they didn't have to go through the best team in the country to get there. The tournament is a wacky thing and there are so many teams that can get on a run. With all that being sad, I am going to say this again, I'm not satisfied with our NCAA tournament history with Bill Self. Winning a national title and getting to the title game help, but it is still frustrating.

John Pritchett 3 years, 8 months ago

And prior to last year's win by Coach K, you'd have to say the exact same thing about him. Look at the results since the 2006-7 season:

Coach Self - 1 championship, 1 title game, 2 elite 8, 2 sweet 16 and 3 round of 32.

Coach K - 2 championships, 1 elite 8, 2 sweet 16, 1 round of 32, 3 round of 64.

Is Coach K the gold standard? Is that what we're looking for in a coach? Because if you take away last season's championship, which I think most would agree, but for some major luck, should have been a title game loss to Kentucky (much like the 2011-12 title game loss to Kentucky for the Jayhawks), Coach Self has undoubtedly had the better results over the last 9 seasons. But Coach K is the best coach in college basketball and fire Bill Self? Seriously, Bryce and others like you, get some perspective.

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

No, arguing that anyone here thinks Self is "above criticism" is a strawman argument, because no one thinks that, and it's in the Troll Handbook, as is repeating the same argument ad nauseum just...because.

Between all this and you're history ('FIRE BILL SELF", etc.)...you're a textbook troll, bud. Embrace it.

Michael Lorraine 3 years, 8 months ago

I don’t think he’s above criticism but that criticism needs to be justified. If your upset over the lack of national titles, why would you get rid of the coach who brought us one?

Rodney Crain 3 years, 8 months ago

You got a point John, a participation medal type of point, but still a point.

I will side with the players and coaches on this. They expect to win the B12, and have a respectful showing in the NCAA tournament just about every year. What Rank we finish at and doing well in the B12 tournament are not high on their list typically. I share their goals.

As a unashamed fan of Jayhawks basketball and Bill Self I also understand that to win you have to constantly strive to be the best. I beleive that if you ask anyone within our program, not the happy go lucky fans on here of course, they would agree that they expected to do better the last two years. At least that is the way I interupt the disappointment, and a few tears they showed in losing near and at the end of the season each year. There is nothing wrong with that.

I share their disappointment.

Its not sad to want to be better, or to hold yourself to higher standards. It is just sports. It is not wrong as a fan to have the same hopes for your team as the players and coaches do either.

Why does everyone think that we should just be positive no matter what? That you are spoiled to want to do better? That makes absolutely no sense.

You say we are great, I think we are elite program too. We did not get there without striving to be better each and every year, and with being disappointed when we did not.

I would be happy with making the Final Four every few years, I think our coaches and players would consider that a positive too. Anything less for a GREAT team, is disappointing. Don't take my word for it, watch how our team reacted the last few years when they didn't. No one was looking for their participation medal on the floor.

Jay Scott 3 years, 8 months ago

Is Paschal Chukwu a better prospect than Georgios Papagiannis?

Jesse Johnson 3 years, 8 months ago

The article yesterday that apparently nobody read (the one where the main part was on Tyrel Reed) seemed to suggest that Papagiannis wants to play just one year in college before going pro. If that is the case he is not a good fit at all for KU. Of course it was just a mention and maybe he is not actually looking to be a OAD.

Tyler Capone 3 years, 8 months ago

never a dull moment in the life of Rodney Crain

John Pritchett 3 years, 8 months ago

For those who want to claim that Coach Self is a failed experiment and it's time to move on, I'd like to show just one set of data:

Since the 2006-7 season:

Coach Self - 1 championship, 1 title game, 2 elite 8, 2 sweet 16 and 3 round of 32.

Coach K - 2 championships, 1 elite 8, 2 sweet 16, 1 round of 32, 3 round of 64.

Now, if you take the Jayhawks' title game loss to Kentucky and compare that to last year's Duke title, you can see what a razor-thin edge there is between being a great coach and being called, by some, a failure. In 2011-12, Kentucky had a pretty good team. That team got all the way to the title game and beat KU. In 2014-15, Kentucky had a much better team. That team miraculously fell short of the title game, leaving Duke with a much easier task in its quest for a championship. Had Kentucky reached the title game and defeated Duke (not a stretch of the imagination at all), would Duke fans be calling for Coach K to be fired? Well, maybe a few nuts would, and I suspect that's all we have here. I hope that's all it is.

Last season's title aside, Coach K has 3 round of 64 exits in the last 9 seasons!

Coach Self is a victim of his own consistent greatness. If he didn't always manage to build quality teams with a legitimate chance to win it all, year after year, then the statistically inevitable early exits wouldn't have been such a disappointment to us. But that's the nature of the tournament! That's what people love about it. Any team can beat any other team on any given night. The dance is full of upsets. It doesn't only happen to KU.

Tom Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

It's a pretty spoiled bunch on the whole.

Rob Byrd 3 years, 8 months ago

John Pritchett, Tom Jones, Brett McCabe, and others of course, but you 3 in particular, are a joy to Jayhawks that live in the real world and STILL appreciate our youngsters and coaches for the incredible consistency and superb quality program that takes the floor yearly! True joy and appreciation of your program is when you love them, National Championship, or not! I wish HCBS would hire Bryce though, because from what I have gathered from his posts, with him on board we would be only accepting the top player at each position and turning away all others and we would soon be passing John Wooden.

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