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Tuesday, April 21, 2015

Recruiting target Diallo sets Twitterverse abuzz

East forward Cheick Diallo of Our Savior New American in Centereach, NY., holds the MVP trophy after East defeated West 111-91 in the McDonald's All-American boys basketball game in Chicago on Wednesday, April 1, 2015. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

East forward Cheick Diallo of Our Savior New American in Centereach, NY., holds the MVP trophy after East defeated West 111-91 in the McDonald's All-American boys basketball game in Chicago on Wednesday, April 1, 2015. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

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Cheick Diallo is hinting that he is mighty close to announcing his college choice.

Diallo, a 6-foot-9 senior forward from Our Savior New American High in Centereach, New York, on Monday night released a statement on Twitter that had the recruiting world buzzing.

“It’s been a long 3 years. Just wanted to thank all the coaches who recruited me and stopped by my school ... appreciate all the fans who followed my journey. All my teammates, my coaches, teachers who’s made me a better thanks and Love y’all,” he wrote in characters that filled not one, but two tweets.

The country’s No. 5-rated player (by Rivals.com) also attached a picture of himself with the logos of finalists KU, Iowa State, Kentucky, Pitt and St. John’s behind him.

It had many speculating that a Tweet announcing the winner for his services was imminent, but that tweet hadn’t appeared by late Monday night.

The only additional “news” revealed by Diallo’s Twitter account was the fact he “followed” KU’s Perry Ellis on the website an hour or so after his recruiting Tweets were posted.

White’s brother a prospect: Andrien White, the brother of former KU/current Nebraska guard Andrew White III is considering several mid-major schools.

White, a 6-3 senior point guard from Quality Education Academy in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, who received an offer from Hofstra on Monday, also is considering Charlotte, Western Kentucky, Stetson, Longwood, Austin Peay and others.

Juco player: A KU assistant coach Monday reportedly visited Tyrone Outlaw, a 6-6 sophomore guard from Lee College in Baytown, Texas.

Outlaw, who visited Virginia Tech last weekend, averaged 23.4 points and 5.5 rebounds per game at Lee while hitting 55 percent of his shots and a sizzling 50.7 percent from three.

He’s also receiving interest from Arkansas, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Oregon, South Florida, Missouri and others, according to jucorecruiting.com.

“He is a 6-6 wing who does an excellent job of mixing things up on the offensive end. His combination of size and shooting ability makes him extremely attractive to high-major programs, especially this late in the year,” writes Brad Winton of jucorecruiting.com.

TV show: ESPNU will air its annual signing-day special at 5 p.m. Central time today. There has been no word if any top players will commit or be interviewed on the show.

New name: KU coaches are expected to today visit Ebuka Izundu, a 6-10 senior forward from Victory Christian High in Charlotte, North Carolina, the Charlotte Observer reports. He has been granted a release from his Charlotte scholarship and reportedly also has heard from Kentucky, Tennessee, UConn, Miami and Cincinnati.

Comments

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 10 months ago

Holy guacamole! He followed Perry Ellis on Twitter!? He's as good as ours!

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

I remember when Myles Turner added a few KU players last year before picking Texas.

Kent Wells 5 years, 10 months ago

But he is also following Ralph Lauren and Tommy Hilfiger

Caden Ford 5 years, 10 months ago

He also follows Kelly, Evan, and I think Wayne. Maybe some others. He even follows the KU Basketball account. Him following Perry last night could be a closer..

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Scrapping for Juco transfers now. Competing against the great college basketball powerhouses of Virginia Tech, Arkansas, Southern Florida. I do not feel something like that should be acceptable at a blue blood program.

The chances a player like that will make a large enough impact at the D1 level to significantly improve his teams chances at a national title are extremely low. (Please don't bother listing the few that actually have. Their existence doesn't change the odds)

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree Ben.

Hope the glass half full posters do not give you too much grief today!

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Doesn't count when you agree with the guy who goes off topic, everyone knows that.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Brett you miss the point again. Thank you for supporting my thoughts.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Sorry Ben as you can see there is group of posters on here who cannot allow anyone ever say anything critical about our perfect team. They try to label you, call you names, and shout you down for having a different opinion than they do.

Somehow they have it in their minds that every comment on here must be super positive about our team, that every player reads everything we say, and that somehow they get to control what is said on here.

I appreciate you defending your right to respectfully disagree with them.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

thank you rodney. i look forward to a healthy discussion about an issue in which we disagree int the future

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Motivated forgetting applies to the recall of long term memory. As my post was immediately after reading the text only short term memory was being utilized.

Adding west Virgina and Oregon doesn't make the situation look any better. now we have a list of 5 schools that shouldn't be considered peer schools to KU on the recruiting trail going after a target that shouldnt be recruited by KU in the first place

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

You all need to LET IT GO. Frank Mason was picking between us, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Providence, Seton Hall, Rutgers and had originally committed to Towson. Graham originally signed with Appalachian State and picked us over North Carolina State. How are those guys working out for us? SHUT UP

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Always nice to see a disrespectful post supported by so many. Very sad in a way.

Just shows indirectly that you actually agree with him. In addition if you make your point without using a regression defense mechanism like SHUT UP you actually would have made a valid point to consider. As it stands though all you did was confirm that his point was better stated than yours which is why you let your emotion come out in the post. Leave the disrespect out of you post next time if you can. It is better without the SHUT UP in it. IMHO.

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

Its not really disrespectful its just the truth. You know what I find disrespectful? Asking for the firing of our talented and successful coach who has given everything to our program. THAT is disrespectful. Your point about me agreeing with him might be accurate if I had just insulted someone personally and not given a logical rebuttal, but I did. Try again next time.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

Completely agree. The real buzz kill will be Cheick Diallo picking any school other than KU. He is almost assured to start on one of CBB best programs at Kansas.

Brett..be classy.

LJ Gee 5 years, 10 months ago

this is such a dumb comment. First, the bulk of the story is about us potentially landing the #7 recruit but you conveniently overlook that and focus solely on a single paragraph. Second, we have ALWAYS brought in JUCO guys and those guys are always being recruited by the likes of VaTech, etc. Third, your logic is totally flawed to begin with. Would VaTech not want the #1 recruit in the country just like anyone else? If we are recruiting him too are we not competing with VaTech? This means absolutely nothing. Congrats on your absolutely pointless comment. You are the winner of today's Negative Nelson Award

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Logic was not flawed. the inference to take away from that list is that the Kenutuckys, Dukes, Arizonas of the world are not interested in the recruit. Therefore its concerning that KU should be

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

Actually no el Jay. HCBS has not recruited JUCO transfers on any regular basis. I was surprised when the national JUCO player of the year from Hutchinson Community College (Hutchinson Kansas) was never recruited and will be playing ball at Arizona next year.

Wichita pulled in a 6'11" player. Oklahoma has picked up 2 top 15 JUCO transfers w/Casey Arent a 6'11" big man along with Sam Grooms. Iowa State has brought in another top JUCO player - Tyrus McGee. Kansas State has the number eight JUCO player - Jeremy Jones signed and on his way to Little Manhattan.

Mario Little was probably the only JUCO Self recruited and also contributed key minutes.. Under Roy Williams, Jeff Graves almost got us a national championship with a 16 and 16 performance in 2003. His minutes were cut significantly the following year under Bill Self.

We have brought in a lot of transfers but JUCO players? Think again.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

And obviously, that was the 2014/15 JUCO class which I totally blew. In this year's incoming class, Oklahoma, Baylor, Oklahoma State, West Virginia and TCU have all landed a top 20 JUCO player.

Brian Wilson 5 years, 10 months ago

The fact is that Kentucky, North Carolina , Duke and all the other schools have a lot of 3 and 4 star players on their roster as well as Juco players. That's the fact. So, I don't understand the whining when KU does it.

Glen Miller 5 years, 10 months ago

Seems like Iowa State is doing just fine with Juco players and transfers..... yet, all you people want to do is complain that we aren't getting the #1 rated players. Well what good have those players done us?? Bounced in the second round and some recognition in the draft? Oh boy!! I'll take Juco players or transfers that have played college ball and gotten some maturity about them if they will help our team. We've not gotten some of our top targets and it sucks, but the sky is not falling people. I think all of you who are freaking out about our signings are silly. It's like you want to run out and commit suicide if we don't land a player and start to doubt if Bill Self can recruit anymore. We aren't going to have a top 5 class every single year folks. If you look at what is STILL on our roster and the addition of Bragg.... plus the couple more players that Bill WILL add (I promise, he's not done bringing in players), we should be fine folks. I would like to think that our coach knows a little more about what he's doing than any of us do.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

It's not like KU had significant personnel issues the last two tournaments or anything. Who knows what happens with a healthy Embiid against Stanford or a healthy Ellis and Greene and an available Alexander thus tournament.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

That's a crazy thought.

How dare you use common sense.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

You don't consider a roster comprised almost exclusively of freshmen and sophs to have personnel issues?

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Not really. KU's biggest issue the last two tournaments has been injuries which don't discriminate against which class a player is in.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

MEh, they weren't going to the Final Four with Tharpe leading a bunch of freshmen and sophs two years ago, even with Embiid healthy and they weren't going to the Final Four last year. Maybe they get by WSU with Perry at 100% but they weren't beating Notre Dame. Round of 32 vs Sweet Sixteen isn't really much of a difference to me. Elite Eight is really the first impressive accomplishment of the tourney for a #2 seed.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Do you really want to compare Iowa State's results over the past few years to that of UK Duke and Arizona who all are using the top recruits strategy?

Its not favorable for Iowa St.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Correct Ben, actually Fred is bringing in those players because he cannot entice top recruits. So to say it works for him, actually proves your point. Do we want to be like ISU or like DUKE, KY, and the other elites.

Great post!

Marius Rowlanski 5 years, 10 months ago

Fred Hoiberg has done a masterful change in culture at Iowa State. When he arrived, let's just say the cupboards were bare. He needed experience and talent and he got both by making use of JUCO players and transfers.

Kansas has done very little with JUCO players but with transfers we have done pretty well.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 10 months ago

BS - You suggest that recruiting jucos should not be 'acceptable' at blue blood programs.....What kind of elitist are you anyway. Do you trust in Self to make the right choice regardless of High School, Transfer, or JUCO, or no? Quite frankly I don't see the odds anymore different than hoping a high school kid pays off. If Self has an interest then he thinks the kid could help. That's good enough for me.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't trust anyone. I prefer to analyze objective facts and come to logical conclusions. And right now there are enough objective facts to logically warrant concern for the program.

Believe me, i hope im wrong. I hope everything pans out all perfectly like all the kool aid drinkers believe it will. But i cant look past the current reality and just mindlessly succumb to a mass delusion

Tom Jones 5 years, 10 months ago

"And right now there are enough objective facts to logically warrant concern for the program."

What facts are these, Ben?

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

read my post on yesterdays article about landing top recruits. i fear if i repost it its only going to stir up another round of irrational personal attacks against me

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Don't be scared!

If it's your opinion, let it fly!

Oh and the personal attacks come when fools talk about philosophy, religion, gravity, and psychoanalysis on a basketball thread!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Wow. i dont even have to actually repost the thread to begin the attacks. Thank you doing exactly what i predicted you would do yesterday Adam.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Correct Ben, Adam likes to attack the poster and not the actual point you are trying to make. I support you and your right to post respectful well thought out comments.

Adam shows a Classic Regression Defense Mechanism post here, as he points out by trying to label posters again here. He just cannot bring himself to actually respond to the point and wants to show superiority over the person. Many do this on here, Brett, Benz, Tom J. It is ok, once you realize that they are actually agreeing with you and cannot reply respectfully it makes it easier to deal with all their negativity.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 10 months ago

You mean like the delusion your in now? How interesting that you relegate those with glasses half full as ka drinkers, needing a reality check, and being mindless and delusional. I'd take the time to provide you the immense amount of success the basketball program has had since (minimally) LB and how HCBS has been even better, but that would just be pissing all over your delusion. I'm out and thanks for playing...

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand the point you are trying to convey with this post. please clarify/

making an argument and then stating "im out thanks for playing" indicates that you are a fearful of any rebuttal to your claims. if you truly believed in what you were arguing would stand and wait for any rebuttals to your claim. making an argument and then running away does not mean your argument was vaild

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

First people complain that we only recruit OAD players. Then they complain about not recruiting only elite players. At what point does it become obvious that some people just complain?

I do not care at all who Kansas chooses to give their 12th and 13th scholarship to. If that person plays 20 minutes over the course of their career at Kansas, great. Who cares. We don't need 12 guys that can all play i the same season. Some guys are practice fodder and role players that give a few minutes if an injury happens. That's it. You aren't getting a top 25 guy to take that role.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

If you believe that 12th and 13th scholarships are not important for building a sustainable winning team over the long term you have a very perverse understanding of how a college basketball program works.

Your 12th and 13th guys on the bench today should become big contributors to the rotation 2-3 years from now. if your 12-13th guys on the bench today arent very good, your rotation 2-3 years from now isnt going to be very good

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Wrong. Show me ONE guy that was the last scholly player on the bench that turned into a significant contributor at Kansas.

The guys that become big contributors 2-3 years from now are guys that are at least some piece of the rotation when they first arrive on campus. NO TEAM has 12-13 guys in their rotation contributing.

12 and #13 in minutes per game on our 2012 Final Four team were Christian Garrett and Niko Roberts.

12 and #13 in minutes per game on our 2008 Final Four team were Connor Teahan and Matt Kleinmann.

12 and #13 in minutes per game on our 2003 Final Four team were Brett Olson and Christian Moody.

12 and #13 in minutes per game on our 2002 Final Four team were Todd Kappelmann and Chris Zerbe.

Of all these players, only Teahan and Moody were ever any type of contributor, let alone significant. Both had one season in their career where they had to play 20+ minutes due to roster problems and neither averaged even 6 points a game in those seasons.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Benz bringing people back to reality!

And if we signed a lower ranked guy, who would undoubtedly be our 12th or 13th man, these same yahoos would be crying that we can't recruit and that these players don't deserve to be at KU.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Sorry for the crazy font. No idea why that happened. I swear I wasn't yelling.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

its a bug in the sites software. it happens when you start a new line with a number

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

Adam you realize what you are currently doing is jumping in to support any rebuttal made against me because of your personal dislike for me. Since you seem incapable of actually submitting a valid counter argument to what ive put forth you are desperately trying to cling to anything anyone else submits to soothe your ego.

at this point someone could post "2+2 =5, therefore ben is wrong" and youd give them a thumbs up and use it as a reason to believe im incorrect

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

I just love ruffling feathers, Ben!

You take things too seriously. Life is about being as happy as possible. What makes me happy is your well thought out responses. So I want them to continue.

I want you to speak about your BASKETBALL opinions! I really do! I've stated that.

But I will continue to antagonize you until you realize this is a basketball article, not a forum that is dedicated to your knowledge on any other subject. Does this make sense?

Oh ya. I also agreed with Benz, well, because we share the same opinion on that topic. Has nothing to do with you. And I don't believe I mentioned you at all. Just a broad group of people.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Perfect Ben.

As you see Adam is doing it for fun. Sad isn't it? His only way to make a point is to try to tear you down so he can feel superior. Text book Regression Defense.

It is the price one pays to post on a public site. Especially when you post something benign and they take it personally.

Keep Posting I am 100% behind you!!!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

You are forgetting the red shirt players that where on scholarship and got 0 minutes of playing time. they become significant contributors.

The discussion is what to do with scholarship players, walk-ons aren't in that subset

Danny Hernandez 5 years, 10 months ago

Even if we get pretty good players that aren't starting or in the rotation, they most likely will leave, ala Andrew White whom I really liked and believed he could have been a tremendous role player for us. Players don't like getting recruited over and that's what is happening. I say, keep the 12 & 13th schollie. At least, the bench is happy because all we'll do is lose players anyway.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree. if you cant one of the top guys. dont waste the scholarships, save them for next year

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Not every player on the roster of a national title winner significantly improves his teams chances at a national title. Were Jeremy Case and Rodrick Stewart impact players for KU in 2008?

Rich Hetherington 5 years, 10 months ago

Stewart sort of was before his injury, but you still make a very valid point.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

Rodrick Stewart played key minutes when Collins was injured down the stretch and although nothing spectacular he was steady and filled in well until Collins reclaimed his position. If I recall, Stewart was a top 25 recruit but never was higher than the ninth man in the rotation.

Alex Resnik 5 years, 10 months ago

Step off the high horse for a minute Ben. Just because HCBS is looking at a Juco player who isn't being looked at by the other "Blue Bloods"doesn't mean the player is going to be terrible. Since I cannot write about other Juco transfers (cough, Mario Little) I will take another approach. What about the players that HCBS recruited out of high school that other Blue Blood programs weren't looking at?? How about Frank Mason, Devonte Graham, Kevin Young and Conner Teahan? Those players were not heavily recruited by the traditional blue bloods. Two of them played in the national title game of 2012. The other's fate have yet to be determined. Since you made up your own rules for responding.. I'll make up my own too. If you choose to respond you cannot use the letter "a". That letter's existence doesn't change my mind.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

please look at my original post: "Please don't bother listing the few that actually have. Their existence doesn't change the odds"

Alex Resnik 5 years, 10 months ago

Please look at my post "if you choose to respond you cannot use the letter "a". That letter's existence doesn't change my mind"

Sam Constance 5 years, 10 months ago

Comments like this, as well as the inevitable back and forth rabble, are why I stopped participating in KUsports.com message boards.

Sports are supposed to be fun. Comments like this remove all that fun.

Listen to yourself. Despondent, not because of a loss or some other serious failure, but because the relative competing schools for a given prospect don't meet some imagined standard of what schools a so-called "blue blood" program should compete against. It's severely lacking in perspective and comes across as whiny and entitled.

Grow up.

Sam Constance 5 years, 10 months ago

^ A wholly predictable response.

Grow up Rodney.

Brian Wilson 5 years, 10 months ago

I disagree. KU can use a 3-4 star 7'0" center that sticks around for 3 or 4 year anytime.

Brian Wilson 5 years, 10 months ago

Also, Tail Wynyard a SOPHOMORE JUCO TRANSFER verbally committed to KENTUCKY just a few days ago.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Tai Wynyard is a 2016 signee who may reclassify to 2015. He's also from New Zealand. He is not a JUCO player. He's actually quite young, like Svi, and that is why he is debating on reclassifying. He just turned 17 a couple months ago.

Cool tidbit on his family, his parents are world champion wood choppers. I seriously couldn't make this up!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

good point. a long term developmental center would not be the worst use of the remaining scholarships. but i wont do anything to help the immediate prospects of the program.

still. good argument

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Good argument? He's completely wrong about everything single piece of information in his post. Wynard isn't a sophomore. He isn't a JUCO transfer and he committed to Kentucky in JANUARY.

Tony Bandle 5 years, 10 months ago

At this point if Cheick and Carlton are our only "gets" this year, I will take it!!

Down deep I think we are are all "glass half full" people. It's just that some of us push reality regarding KU basketball away because we have to face so much of it in real life. Ben and Rodney are reality guys, while Suzi and I are half-fullers, for example. Absolutely nothing wrong with either approach.

Some people look for where the rainbow starts, while others look for where the rainbow ends. All of us, however, like the rainbow.

Jonathan Allison 5 years, 10 months ago

do rainbows travel left to right, right to left, top to bottom, bottom to top? I guess the key is that you have to know where the pot of gold is.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

well said.

I understand the desire to default to the "glass half full" viewpoint. Its comforting.

Its like atheists and religious people. Atheists cant get past the perceived irrationality of people with faith. However every study shows that theists are happier than atheists in life

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Philosophy, aerospace engineering, and NOW religion!

Next can you tell me the powerball numbers?

I only ask because you have all the answers.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

eventually you will realize these posts end up discrediting you more than they do me. I hope that realization comes soon for your sake

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

What's awesome is I do not seek validation from strangers on a message board!

But you do! And if you can't see how much a joke you look like on here too, then I'm sorry.

I come to read about basketball and football. You are so hell bent on proving everyone wrong that you begin talking about nonsense. It's pure comedy. Now I can get sports and entertainment on the same website!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

You provide no evidence that i seek validation from strangers on the internet. all i have done is put forth an argument about the state of a sports program on a sports site. then respondto personal attacks with explanations of why those attacks were irrational.

feeling sorry for me for not being able to see how much of a "joke" i am does not disprove any of the arguments i have put forth. Its a defense mechanism, because you can not refute my claims you have attempted to marginalize me in your own consciousness. Its much easier to believe i am some sort of "comic relief" then it is to prove my analysis wrong

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

You respond to any post about you or you perceive to be about you and are hell bent on trying to prove you're the smartest guy in the room and get the last word in.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Dangit Aaron! I wanted the last word :)

But ya, what he said!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't understand the argument of this post?

am i not suppose to respond to posts about me?

am i not suppose defend an argument i believe to be true?

please clarify what you mean because on the surface it seems to be "if someone thinks you're wrong, accept it"

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Aaron can you point me to the link of your rules to post for this site? It would help some us know what you think our opinion should be and what we can and cannot reply to.

Why can't someone reply to every post whatever they perceive?

Ben responds with respect and without name calling and labeling. Quite different than some of the others on here. Why would we want to limit those kind of posts on here? Just because you disagree with him does not diminish what he posts or what he posts about.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't give a rat's a$$ if you have a different opinion, that's what sparks debate. I have a difference of opinion with many people on here so you and Ben aren't special. The issue with you and Ben is the condescending, self-righteous, holier than thou attitude that you two respond with anytime someone doesn't agree with your opinion. That attitude that you two post with what causes much of the petty crap that happens here. Have your opinion, express it, just don't be insulted and shocked when others don't share that opinion.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm am not insulted or shocked when others disagree with me. I simply disagree with them. a civilized course of action when two people disagree should be a an debate, with both sides providing evidence to each of there arguments until one is proven wrong and the truthful consensous is reached. some posters on this forum don't want that debate. it they disagree with you, you are wrong. period.

that is not a healthy conversation

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

You absolutely questioned people intelligence level, as well as their education.

That is not simply disagreeing. That is not civilized. That is not healthy.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

i did make a generalized claim that lack of a college education would explain some of the comments on this forums. but i have not directed that assertion at any individual

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

And making a statement like that is you coming across like you're better than those people because you went to college. Also throwing out psychology terms when someone doesn't use the same thought process as you in making an argument is not being civilized, it's condescending and insulting other people's intelligence.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

i hope you realize that this statement can be summarized as "being more educated then other people is insulting to their intelligence"

if someone came on here and refuted my claim with a bunch of astrophysics jargon i wouldn't consider it insulting. i would either educate myself about the terms they used or asked for clarification.

I don't know everything, and that fact doesn't upset me, it fuels me to learn

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

i should clarify that i'm not trying to buld a strawman, so if that summary is incorrect please indicate where i was wrong

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Excellent again Ben you hit it right on the head with Adam T.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

I've never been rude to anyone, except you and Ben.

Check the history of my posts. Please. In fact, Ben and I had a great conversation just the other day about a coaching change, before his attitude towards others changed.

The way you two approach other users disturbs me. You are confrontational and unaccepting of others. So I try my best to send it right back at ya!

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm thinking we will be hit with a commitment to Kentucky from Diallo this week.

Keith Gellar 5 years, 10 months ago

This is it...with Diallo (who is pretty much a lock), Bill Self has no more excuses..no more "young team", "tough schedule", etc...Short of an injury to Perry, Diallo, or Bragg, anything less than a FF should be viewed as a failure.

if Bill can't make it to a FF with this roster, its time to look else where. IMO, he already got his pass with the disappointing season with Wiggins.

FF OR BUST!

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

Your post is wrong headed on so many levels, it leads me to believe you have a personal grudge against Self, like the friends of Frankamp.

Yes that team with Wiggins was very disappointing but there was a stretch of about 8 games prior to JoJo's injure where they played some of the best ball by any Kansas team ever, even though we were PGless.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't get the Frankamp comment. I for one regret his leaving as I do for AW3. I think Self could have had 2 multiple year players that would have done far more for the program than some of the OADs but I certainly don't have a grudge against HCBS.

Keith Gellar 5 years, 10 months ago

the sunshine pumpers will eat anyone alive that questions self. When conner was brought on, he was adored but the moment he chose to leave- he was thrown under the bus. suddenly, an all american Kansas kid with supportive parents became an over hyped Wichita scrub with helicopter parents. It just how it works here. remember, if you aren't against the terrorists, then you are for them and thus- the enemy!

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

haha, yes. One person, Keith Gellar, apparently.

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

That's nice of you. You will be a wonderful father some day (hoping you aren't one already)

Keith Gellar 5 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't call it a grudge, but the more and more he becomes like calipari chasing after OAD'ers and alienating good talent like Andrew White, Conner Frankamp, etc- he's selling out to the hype. to me, that isn't Kansas basketball. Self is becoming lazier and lazier. He used to be the best x and o's coach and regardless who we were playing against, we would take it to the wire. however, it seems like blowouts are becoming a more and more common occurrence.

This is Kansas. If you can't get a NC, then you need to be looking elsewhere

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Connor Frankamp wasn't run out of town by OAD's or Self. He couldn't beat out players who originally committed to Towson and Appalachian St. and instead of staying and working on his game to try and beat out said players, he took his ball and went home. But don't let reality get in the way of a good rant.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

I would say not 100% accurate. Bill Self has run players off in the past, but Connor Frankamp was not one of them.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

I wonder what Tharpe would think about being run off? Truth is though, unless you were there or had really good inside sources, I'm not sure what really happened.

Greg Ledom 5 years, 10 months ago

Keith, tell me your not serious. All in jest right.......If not, I must agree with the other first responders.....

Yonatan Negash 5 years, 10 months ago

Thon Maker is still play for Kansas. We have a great chance of getting him too.

C. Bragg C. Diallo T. Maker

I'll let the coaches worry about playing time.

Glen Miller 5 years, 10 months ago

If you do some research on the kid.... you'll change your mind. He's not even eligible yet, has to take summer classes and quite likely won't step foot on a college court if he stays in this years class. On top of that, he'll be late in getting to campus, won't be able to do the World Tourney with us, and could bring possible NCAA violations along with him...... no thank you. Wayyyyyyy too much risk, no matter how skilled he is.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

I have ZERO interest in Thon Maker. None at all. He is a violation waiting to happen and I doubt he will ever have his academics in order to be able to play college basketball.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

Since Sunday night this Diallo thing has really taken off. Diallo is set to make it announcement today. As a "glass full" Hawk, Kansas will be his choice. STJ seems to have crashed and burned over the past 24 hours with KY emerging as the primary competition. It kinda reminds me of the Wiggins recruitment because Kansas seemed out of it by many then Self closed hard to seal the deal. Let's hope for the same here because a class with only Bragg and Diallo will completely fill our needs. However, if Diallo does sign with Kansas a guy like Brown should take another careful look toward Kansas.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

I haven't seen that Diallo has scheduled his announcement today. All he did was wrap up thanks to the schools recruiting him. It would be nice if he was ready to announce. Maybe ESPN will talk him into being part of today's signing day special on ESPNU. They are pushing hard for one of the big guys to announce on their show and it won't be Newman or Ingram now.

Holly Pearle 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm thinking of a new reality show that follows the top 25 recruits as they near decision day. Of course everybody but the player and his family gets paid.

Tyler Capone 5 years, 10 months ago

if Cheick chooses Kentucky i'll probably cry...there is nobody else out there that we have a shot with besides MAYBE Jaylen Brown but I dont even think he knows what he wants to do at this point. Diallo has probbaly made a decision but keeps rethinking if it's the right one. Notice how the ISU rumors went away...Id say KU/UK are tied for him eight now, and then St. Johns. Also, Jerry Meyer of 247 sports said recently "I'm not hearing positive things about St. Johns chances to land Diallo" if that helps.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

I will also cry...alot. I really think his choice will be Kansas and the KY thing over the past 36 hours is hype for today's ESPN show.

If he does choice Kansas, it will be one of Self's biggest recruiting win ever, even more impressive than Wiggins on some levels. Wiggins was heavily influenced by Nick in Wichita. Diallo has no personal factor like that. It also represents a straight up major recruiting win over KY, in an area they have a seriously major need, like us.

Signing Diallo will be such major news on so many levels!

Ashwin Rao 5 years, 10 months ago

Not raising hopes... just will take it as it comes. I don't want to invest too much emotions on a teenage brain. I would love for him to be a part of our team!

Gerry Butler 5 years, 10 months ago

I've been on Cheick almost the entire season, told a buddy I said early this kid is an animal. I'm close to where you are Tyler I want this kid so bad I can taste it. I've said multiple times I believe if he is not the best, then he has to be 1 of the top 2 big men in the class. I think he is sooooooooooooooooooooo way much better then Zimmerman. much more aggressive around the rim, Zimmerman is just another kid that wants to play a guard position. every game I watched which was the main 3 Diallo rebounded much much better then Zimmerman, so ya I jus really hope the staff was able to close the deal out on him. As far as him following Perry on twitter? don't know what to make on that, hopefully it is a good thing, who knows what goes on in these 18-19 yr olds heads. lets hope fellow Hawk fans, hope we here soon, I too think its another typical KU-UK show down on this, my gut tell me I'm afraid I sooo hope I'm wrong ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Tyler Capone 5 years, 10 months ago

It seems like he's Cliff Alexander (when he was dominant in HS) with more height and length and with a will to win and compete more. He might like his odds to start right away at UK but I would think he would be able to start at KU too

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

I don't see him starting at Kentucky at any point, let alone right away. They have Alex Poythress returning for his senior season, Marcus Lee and Skal Labissiere. I don't see him starting over any of those guys at Kentucky. He would easily slide in ahead of Lucas at Kentucky and start next to Ellis while Bragg would primarily back up Ellis. I could even see a few moments where Bragg, Ellis and Diallo would be out there at the same time if we go up against bigger teams such as Kentucky or Texas.

Brian Wilson 5 years, 10 months ago

you haven't been reading. Ellis is moving and playing the 3 spot. And if Diallo comes the lineup will look like this
Mason and Graham
Selden and Svi
Ellis and Greene
Bragg, Traylor, Mickelson
Diallo, Lucas, Mickelson

I will take that in a second!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

im curious whats your basis for believing perry is moving to the 3? i havent come across that yet but if its true that would be great

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

The basis would be Self's comments when Ellis announced plans to return. The LJW covered the topic extensively. No doubt, Ellis will be playing the 3 alot next season.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

That's funny. Ellis will play about 20 minutes as the 3 next year total.

Arthur Ankeney 5 years, 10 months ago

I do NOT like Ellis at the 3. He cannot handle the ball at all against pressure and his release is WAYYYYY too slow to be a shooter from the SF position. Only reason he's able to get his jumper off now is because he played against the 4 slot. I love Ellis, but the solution is to get him in the weight room and bulk up, not move him to the 3 spot.

Can you imagine a lineup of Mason, Seldon, Ellis, Bragg, and Diallo? There is only one ball handler there. Your second best is prolly Bragg at the 4. I haven't seen him play much but I bet he's just as good or better of a ball handler and shooter than Ellis.

Brian Skelly 5 years, 10 months ago

I think the fact that Kentucky has to completely reload greatly effects everyone else, KU included. SEVEN spots to fill? I actually dont think Cal will get them all filled with top flight guys, simply based on numbers. Remember, seven guys are leaving because 2-4 guys he thought would go last year ended up staying. So then the question is whomever is left, will they go to UK to be one of the guys? It certainly could happen. But with so many to fill i'd be less sure about.

Regardless, we'll be good next year again. Great? We'll thats the hairs were splitting here now isnt it?

Brian Wilson 5 years, 10 months ago

No....But, Yes it effects everyone else. I think it will make things harder on Kentucky if the One and Dones are thinking about it. Exmaple: If Diallo is thinking National Championship then he should pick KU. Kentucky is depleted. The just got rid of 5 NBA playes that chose to stay a 2nd year and failed. Plus they got rid of 2 more. What does that tell any One and done player about the chance of Kentucky being in contention next year? It takes chemistry and usually time and experience.

Brian Mellor 5 years, 10 months ago

One day, I hope to aspire to the daily level of pessimism and misery that shines so darkly from a few of these regular posters.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

trust me, you dont want to aspire to achieve my viewpoint. it sucks. feeling concerned about a program you support so much is not a good feeling,

stay ignorant and happy!

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Why do you get upset at others for attacking you but then you attack someone too?

Brian never mentioned anybodys name.

Only logical explanation: Regression Defense Mechanism

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

because i personally identify as an individual with a "level of pessimism and misery"

also, what "attack" was levied in my post? i said nothing derogatory about brian or his argument.

please Google the definition of "Regression Defense Mechanism"

its a personal response to a counter argument, which brian's post wasnt.

It appears you have now reached the point of trying to pretend you understand psychology to attack someone who actually does.

if you really want to go into a complete pshycho analysis of eachother lets take it offline. Especially if you truly believe your calim that such discussions should not be on a "sports forum" like youve stated before

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Where is the personal attack? You called him ignorant.

And if you couldn't see that was a joke, I'm sorry.

Offline, sure. Meet me in Temecula bro!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

calling someone ignorant is not a personal attack. it is a claim that the person is not aware of all the facts. and being unaware of certain facts in nothing to be ashamed of

ignorance is subjective, someone i may believe is ignorant may very well be more informed then i am about a subject because of my own ignorance.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

If anyone were to call you ignorant, or state your opinion was ignorant, we would see ten posts from both you and Rodney screaming to be civil.

Get real.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

false claim with no evidence to support it.

Tyler Capone 5 years, 10 months ago

I'd really like to get that Ty Outlaw kid via transfer...heard nothing but great things about him

Jesse Johnson 5 years, 10 months ago

So hope we get Diallo. Wouldn't mind getting the Juco guard. He has shown he can make 3s in games, which IMO is a different talent than making 3s in practice. Would love to use a scholarship on that Greek 7 footer as a long term prospect. That could round out a great class if we get all of the above.

Ethan Berger 5 years, 10 months ago

I think if we can somehow pick him up, we are a final four team. College basketball tourney is so chaotic that I won't call it a bust if we don't (I think it should be a best of 3 per round, more basketball!). Looking at past Self teams, the best ones are those who run two point guards or "combo" guards. I think our line up will 1. Frank 2. Devonte 3. Wayne 4. Perry 5. Lucas (but Diallo if he commits)

With Svi, Greene, Bragg, Hunter off the bench, that should be dangerous.

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

With Diallo the team will be real good. But to say dangerous is wrong. KU still needs a consistent player to replace Selden. If Self lands Diallo and a solid SG then it will be a dangerous team.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

How about if a more consistent player replaces Selden? People whine that we don't have enough guys stick around for multiple years and then complain when the guys that DO stick around don't develop into OAD players and be good enough to leave right away. Brilliant.

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm not one of those people. I want the best starting five on the floor. If Self can bring in some one who can beat out Selden then it needs to be done.

Ethan Berger 5 years, 10 months ago

Selden to me still has the highest upside. He is very close to being a great player. He can drive, at will (when he inserts that will.) He can create his own mid range jump shot (when he inserts that will.) He plays good defense. He missed a lot of bunnies last year, an easy mistake to fix. He could have a huge breakout year. If he doesn't step up, SVI could very well be ready.

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

I think that is why KU needs another top shooting guard to battle Selden for the starting minutes, Either do your job or some one else will.

Tom Jones 5 years, 10 months ago

Nah, KU's got five good options to rotate at 1,2 and 3 already, and they'll probably still pick up another one. They're fine on the perimeter.

Shane Johnston 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree with Tom that we're pretty solid 1-3. Even if we needed one, it would be tough to pull in another SG at this point that's capable of challenging Wayne for starting minutes. We're a tough sell for top shooters with Brannen and Svi on the roster. For newcomers to challenge for rotation minutes in the backcourt, they need to be a clear upgrade over Svi/Brannen or be able to handle the ball well.

Tevin Brown 5 years, 10 months ago

If you think we should fire bill self you need to get drug tested at this exact moment. If we fire bill who we gonna replace him with?

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

We could probably get Bruce Weber here in a hot second..

Keith Gellar 5 years, 10 months ago

lol..at least bruce has the balls to dismiss/suspend players when they are out of line.

Bill just slaps them on their tush, maybe (in rarest of rare instances) suspends them when convenient (e.g., BG)- yep, that'll show them who's boss #priorities #showemwhosboss

Allison Steen 5 years, 10 months ago

How is it ever "convenient" to suspend a player? I personally think Weber is a little out of control. If his players were really that bad, then HE is to blame for an out of control program.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Brannen Greene, Naadir Tharpe, Tyshawn Taylor, Elijah Johnson, I think T-Rob got suspended at some point as well, Sherron Collins, JR Giddens, and I'm sure others have been suspended as well.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Why is it that Weber has to do a fire sale at every stop? At some point people will realize that the only common denominator is Weber. Maybe he is just an annoying, unreasonable person that doesn't have a good feel of how to manage a team and his players revolt against that. Does that make the players "out of line" or does that make the person defining the line the problem?

Joe Joseph 5 years, 10 months ago

You want to talk about convenience?

Bruce Weber had all of the information he needed to boot half of his players off the roster, but he conveniently waited until the end of the season to do so. If he were such a great, rule-following, lay-the-law-down type of guy, he would have kicked them to the curb ages ago.

THAT is convenient!

Sam Constance 5 years, 10 months ago

Or, viewed another way--Weber dismisses players because he CAN'T get them in line.

How, exactly, does Marcus Foster's need to be dismissed from KSU say anything positive about Weber?

Jonathan Allison 5 years, 10 months ago

Is Diallo an American national? Curious if he's like Embiid or Mudiay because he wouldn't be allowed to play with the team on the Korea trip.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

This has been covered ad nauseum. He is not an American citizen and would not be allowed to play in Korea.

Rich Hetherington 5 years, 10 months ago

If he hadn't been rated a top 15 recruit, I wonder if you'd still think that. He looked great during the B12 tournament, and at various times throughout the year. He's had trouble finishing at the rim, but has shot it decently from beyond the arc, and more importantly, played excellent defense and became and excellent passer. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table in his junior campaign!

Michael Bennett 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree. Every KU fan adored Travis Releford, but was he really any better than Selden? Initial expectations and perception of "playing to one's ability" really affect a player's image. Selden will be a solid 3-4 year contributor, and so far no player has proven they deserve his minutes.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

If he didnt have 5 stars attached to his name would he be a disappointment?

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Gee, who didn't see a continuation of yesterday happening on here.

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

That is because recruiting in the most important part of college athletics. see john callipari's comments at his introduction press conference. Its all about talent!

his track record at UK would suggest he's right

Mick Allen 5 years, 10 months ago

Keith, don't put off that lobotomy any longer. Tony and Suzie always remember, whether the glass is half empty or half full is irrelevant if you're thirsty. Thought for the day?If we get Diallo, everything else is icing on the cake.

Tevin Brown 5 years, 10 months ago

The year after Ben we stop running the offense we start playing one on one ball this year I don't think we even ran the offense that much hardly threw any angle passes that we usually throw! If u notice when we Played Wichita state we probably threw it in the post like 10 times....our high and low offense went missing half the year

Wayne is fine we just don't have a point guard who can find him open I mean Perry was open for 25 alley oops this year but you know what frank did what Frank always does just drives the ball and hopes it doesn't get it blocked! I like frank but he needs to work on his driving and passing skills. We need him to step his point guard skills up that's why Wiggins had to play one on 5 cause we just pass him the ball and stand around.. the same thing this year we just stand around and watch frank drive

RUN THE OFFENSE!!

Joe Joseph 5 years, 10 months ago

The high-low doesn't work so well when you have no one to throw the ball to down low...

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

I was very disappointed with this past year's team unable to run any kind of consistent offense. I've said many times, they suffered from team ADD. Last year was the worst team I can remember since before LB, but we still won the Big 12!

Thank God we won the Big 12. Time to move on.

Shane Johnston 5 years, 10 months ago

And they struggled running more than just the half-court offense. The press break was just as poor. Many times our best response to pressure was letting Frank dribble through it. We really need to be a better passing team next year, and that's mostly on our wings.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

The KU teams at the turn of the millennium werent nearly as good as last years team. I believe the 98/99 squad was the worst. The next year was also a down year, but that was due to youth.

They both failed to win Big 12 regular season titles and one team was a 7 seed if my memory is correct.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

I am sure you are correct. I tend to forget some of those not so good years, especially when there have been so few over the past 30+ years.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree.

I just have those TJ Pugh years stuck in my head for some reason!

Mick Allen 5 years, 10 months ago

Tevin, Selden can't just stand around he needs to go to a spot where Mason or Graham can find him. Mason was 3rd in the league in assist to turn over ratio and averaged over 4 assists a game in his first full year at the point. I will acknowledge his point play needs some "fine tuning" but I don't believe Chris Paul is available.

Tevin Brown 5 years, 10 months ago

I do agree with Wayne just standing he needs to cut and spot up and I didn't say franks a bad pg I just think he's a scoring point like an allen Iverson a baby russell and that's fine but we already have scorers on our team pass them the ball!!

Shane Johnston 5 years, 10 months ago

Frank was the only one who consistently showed he could create his own shot last year. Last year's team needed Frank badly. 5+ assists per game is an elite passer and Frank can get there with help from the wings. The ball will find Wayne and Brannen if they get open.

Harlan Hobbs 5 years, 10 months ago

I was about to bypass this article given most of the weirdo comments. Then Mick weighed in, and my faith in sanity has been restored. Thanks also to Tony, Suzi, and the other positive posters. Now all we need is for Joe Ross to chip in his comments.

Gerry Butler 5 years, 10 months ago

ok, we have 3 available correct? I would have to agree with Jesse. if by chance we could land Diallo, then if we were to get the juco guard Tyrone outlaw and finish with the 7fter would be an excellent group. think this all will be coming to a head soon, if we even just finish with Diallo, and Bragg will be good our big thing is we HAVE GOT to land a big more so then the guard but we shall see

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

I wonder if anyone besides me is tired of all the infighting between commentators here who are all presumably Jayhawk fans. It'll be a great day when we agree or disagree based on what a person says rather than reacting out of emotional carry-over from previous posts.

In other news: It's an exciting time right now, awaiting the decision of a Kansas recruiting target.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Wasn't the reason we had to use our names was to stop from showing how immature and incapable of accepting people having a different opinion without resorting to name calling, belittling people, or trying to prove they're the smartest person in the room?

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

I thought it was because Facebook kicked them some money for the advertising that requiring their usage provides.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 10 months ago

Google gave them money to do the surveys. The Facebook verification was just to prove it was real person and to try and deter a lot of the crap that's still happening when people used screen names instead of real names.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

So fake people used to post here before? They realize you can use ANY NAME to create a Facebook page, right? Does anyone really think my name is "Benz Junque"?

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree.

Especially when those same posters were involved in the same crap just a couple short months ago and then publicly stated they were working to be better at it!

Pot meet kettle.

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

That's a very poor defense of bad behavior in the comments. Being civil toward one another is worth arguing for. Nothing would be lost in your ability to respond with good points to the articles, share information, or discuss the subject matter at hand with other posters; except, of course, all the negative drama which detracts from the articles and spins off ugly sideshows and personal battles. You can call it moralizing, but the negativity makes the forum much less than it would otherwise be.

A positive change of heart that leads to better behavior should always be welcomed. Im the first to admit that Ive been guilty and I have never attempted to hide the fact. But if in my hypocrisy Im too zealous for a change of direction here, then let it be also said that before lobbying the forum for it I cleaned my act up first. Making a mistake is a lesser offense than choosing to stay there. We can all do better. And we should.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

Brett and Adam T. in replying to this comment and others on this thread have posted they prefer to stir it up to create the arguments.

I think this illustrates that a lot of this is caused by people who only want something to amuse themselves. Not really to further the discussion, not to make a real point about the topic. I find it supports my thoughts recently that these behaviors are what takes a vanilla article into some kind of polarizing comments section.

I am trying really hard to make sure I am respectful to the other person, like Ben and Rob B. have done on here recently too. Ben on this article has done a great job of trying to defend his point without being disrespectful. I have heard you Joe and am trying to change my approach as well.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Ben went on a rant about uneducated posters.

Rob said a couple posters have the combined intelligence level of a 1st grader.

I know there a lot of comments to sort through. But don't just side with your buddies. Side with facts. Everybody has dirt on then now Rodney. Even you!

Joe Ross 5 years, 10 months ago

Excellent, Rodney. One thing that is very difficult is to allow people to say negative things about you with little or no response. Ride the wave. It'll take a while but if you keep it about the subject matter the tide will eventually turn. The truth is that being so constrained about the way I presented my arguments didnt settle well with me at first, especially when people continued to respond to me as if I were going to throw down all the time. But that passed. Now I enjoy coming here much more, and I usually only get the occasional reminder of being the former loud-mouth. In fact, I mention it more than everyone else combined (I bring it up only to lobby for civility). Youve got some difficult days ahead with some of the guys and youre going to take some arrows, but the grass is greener on this side.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree. I've been guilty of it. Mainly because I like to cause a stir, but it's still immature. What are the consequences for those people though? Not like most of the irritants see much day light. They'll never have to face their opposers. There will always be the Sharon's to bring down the Cindy's, and the Jerry's to annoy the Larry's. All we can hope for is that we pick up Diallo and win a National Title. Then there will be only one unhappy Jayhawk Fan; Rodney Crain.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Reading your last sentence made me LOL in public.

Don't call Rodney unhappy! That is name calling! Not tolerated!

(I like to cause a stir too)

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

John I am not unhappy. I want our team to be more successful in the NCAA tournament and the best way to do that is with better players.

When I make a comment, it would be preferred that the reply would just disagree with me, instead of calling me an idiot, a fool, a jerk, et al. Immaturity is a Regression Defense Mechanism, it is why I keep bringing it up. When someone does this, like they have the last few days it is sign they feel inferior and can only make their point by being calling the other person a name. Just like Adam Tyler, Brett a few others on here does. I have hit so close to home they are repeating me. Their fear drives this behavior.

Just disagree with me, it would nice to be respectful. If you can't do that I will reply and try again to explain why.

John Fitzgerald 5 years, 10 months ago

I'm just joshin' ya. Admit, it was kinda funny though.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 10 months ago

I agree it is a very exciting time right now, I am hoping for the best!

Ben Simonett 5 years, 10 months ago

100% agree

i would like to highlight the fact however that i have posted nothing directed at an individual poster that was not a response to a direct attack at me.

Every disagreeing post i have made with my fellow jayhawk fans on this forums has been an attack on the arguments that post put forward. not the person themselves

Mike Riches 5 years, 10 months ago

May I suggest two sister websites for the future:

www.kusports.com/halffull

www.kusports.com/halfempty

Maybe a questionnaire that automatically sorts each reader into one site or the other....wait a second, that's a great idea! Another questionnaire on this site!!

All kidding aside...I feel good about next year's team. Signing Diallo would probably sure up the 5 spot (I say probably, because we never really know how good a freshman is going to be until he actually starts playing) but I actually feel good about the guys we have now. The majority of our starters will be upper-classmen and we have the advantage of the World Games this summer (including unlimited practice time). I'm very interested to see what kind of teams other countries are able to field, but it could be that we get to play 5-6 "easy" games, something we didn't have the past two years, and that I think would have been very beneficial in terms of development.

It seems to me that next year we'll have close to the experience of the 2012-2013 team with much more natural talent, ability and athleticism. Maybe I am a half full guy, but I think we already have the enough pieces to win #12 and make a serious run in the tourney.

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Side note: the real winners are the LWJ.

Think of all these clicks they are getting!

Keep pumping out recruiting articles and you might win some national awards. Touché friends.

Linda Peschka 5 years, 10 months ago

Newman will go to Kentucky to replace T. Jones. Diallo is going to Kentucky or St. Johns with their new coach C Mullins. KU will not get either of the two. KU will be shut out from receiving any of the top 10 recruits. Is Self losing his touch? Maybe. Hopefully some top recruits from 2016.

Tyler Capone 5 years, 10 months ago

T Jones was on Kentucky? Seems like i'm missing something here...

Rob Bedford III 5 years, 10 months ago

St. John’s freshman center Adonis De La Rosa is transferring -- per school. They may be back in play for Diallo.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

This is maddening and is the reason I don't like following recruiting. This could go on another week of torture. Geezzz do we need Diallo!

Joseph Bullock 5 years, 10 months ago

I have 2 words for those who say Kansas should never recruit a Ju-Co player: Darrin Hancock!

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

Anybody know anything about this Diallo/Brown to Kansas package deal?

Holly molly...if Self pulls of that kind of deal .... Hawk fans have got to admire the never say die competitive drive from Self!

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Dont toy with my emotions Suzi!

But no, I havent heard this.

Please, let it be true!

Tyson Ailshie 5 years, 10 months ago

Dang it, Suzi. Now why'd you have to go and do that? This anticipation is killing me. Isn't Brown a lock to go to UCLA?

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Brown is dead silent on his recruitment.

Tony Bandle 5 years, 10 months ago

I love all you guys [and gals]....there, I've said it. Feel free to rip me a new one,,..you all are still the best!!! :)

Adam Tyler 5 years, 10 months ago

Why you gotta be so nice, Oak?! Always coming on here spreading joy and optimism. Don't you dare have any joy when discussing the Jayhawks. This is cutthroat.

Just kidding, like always.

We love you too :)

Joseph Bullock 5 years, 10 months ago

Suzi, Dialo/Brown was something I heard, quite a while ago, but then I heard Dialo might go to SJ's, because of Mullin, so the chatter died out. That being said, I have always said Brown is a great fit, to take the place of KO. And Dialo is also a good fit, because we need a guy with length, and he won't always have to play the 5, at Kansas. It just makes sense, but you never know. I think I have said, many times, Maker, Dialo, Brown-plus Bragg! Mercy! I'm still hoping for that scenario, but what the heck do I know. We will find out, real soon.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 10 months ago

That Diallo/Brown package seems to be heating up again. This coach we have won't back down. He's on them like white on rice.

Benz Junque 5 years, 10 months ago

Again, I have ZERO interest in Maker strolling in at midseason and jacking up the rotation. Not enough positives to outweigh the negatives.

Linda Peschka 5 years, 10 months ago

Never happen. All just rumors. Wait and see.

Chad Durbin 5 years, 10 months ago

I wondered how long it would take for someone to post "Fire HCBS" in this post...several and counting. Kids will be kids, but HCBS can still recruit, and will fill the remaining scholarships. Svi was a late grab last year, with great potential, and wasn't on many other blue blood recruiting lists... time will tell.

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