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Saturday, June 7, 2014

KU recruit Mykhailiuk garners 5-star rating

Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk of Ukraine competes during the U16 Eurobasket 2013 first-round match between Ukraine and Latvia at Palace of Sport in Kiev, Ukraine, on Aug. 8, 2013.

Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk of Ukraine competes during the U16 Eurobasket 2013 first-round match between Ukraine and Latvia at Palace of Sport in Kiev, Ukraine, on Aug. 8, 2013.

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Rivals.com has awarded future Kansas University basketball player Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk a five-star rating, the website reported Friday.

Mykhailiuk, a 6-foot-6 guard from Ukraine, has not been issued a specific ranking in the recruiting Class of 2014’s top 150 since he was a late addition to the class.

KU has an incoming class of five-stars Mykhailiuk, Cliff Alexander (ranked No. 4 overall) and Kelly Oubre (No. 6), plus four-star Devonte Graham (No. 36). A five-star ranking is the best a player can receive.

Larry, Tad on list: ESPN.com this summer is releasing a list of the top 50 coaches in college hoops as decided by a panel of 100 ESPN writers, editors, broadcasters and researchers. ESPN stresses “this isn’t about legacy; it’s about the present.”

As such, two coaches with KU ties have so far been revealed on ESPN.com’s list. Colorado coach Tad Boyle, who played for Ted Owens and Larry Brown at KU, checked in at No. 34.

SMU coach Brown, who coached KU to the 1988 NCAA title, on Friday was accorded a No. 21 rating. Big 12 coaches on the list thus far: Scott Drew, Baylor, tie 50th; Rick Barnes, Texas, 44th; Bruce Weber, Kansas State, 40th; Tubby Smith, Texas Tech, 39th; Lon Kruger, Oklahoma, 31st; Bob Huggins, West Virginia, 30th. The list will continue over the next four weeks counting down to No. 1.

Of Brown, ESPN.com’s Eamonn Brennan writes, “Brown doesn’t look likely to leave SMU anytime soon. When he does, it is just as likely to be for retirement than his 15th (or so) crack at the NBA. But even if Brown did jump back to the pros tomorrow, this ranking would be fair. In just two years, Brown has done what he’s always done and what made him worth the SMU experiment in the first place: He’s brilliantly coached his team.”

SMU, by the way, is expected to be a likely preseason top-15 team this upcoming season.

“I’m here at SMU. I want to win a national championship,” Brown told USA Today this week when asked about rumors he might become the Los Angeles Lakers coach.

Of the upcoming NBA Draft, Brown told Philadelphia radio station 94WIP, “ I love (Andrew) Wiggins, I love (Jabari) Parker and I like Joel (Embiid) a lot.”

Danny in town: Former KU All-America player and former assistant coach Danny Manning will make an in-store appearance at Dick’s Sporting Goods from 12:30 p.m. until 2:30 p.m. today. The store is located at 2727 Iowa Street. For information go to http://ljw.bz/1j865kU.

Comments

Brett McCabe 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I think Larry once said that he loved KU and wouldn't leave before leaving for two different programs in about a week.

Rivals rankings are about as meaningful as the NBA dunk contest. What a shock, two kids sign with Kansas and are now...magically...5-star recruits.

Hopefully, these 5-Stars can win more than one game in the tourney and can do what old KU teams did for a generation...beat the pussycats in their own sandbox....because the last to 5-stars couldn't get either one done.

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Walter Bridges 3 months, 3 weeks ago

While I agree that Mykhailiuk's 5 Star rating is meaningless at this point in time, if you are saying that the ranking system is meaningless then I completely disagree.

While certainly not an exact science, there is a strong proven track record that shows the higher one's rankings has a strong correlation with future college and NBA success. It is a useful tool in general but not so much as for a specific player.

I believe most coaches will recruit the players that they've personally seen and believe will have a successful career at their given university though the majority of these players will be those with the stronger/higher ranking. A good coach often finds players who have been overlooked but again, in general, the higher one's ratings the higher the probability of success.

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Suzi Marshall 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I know Bossi made a principled effort to assign the proper relative ranking to Mykhailiuk. For the second year in a row, Self has signed a mysterious 5 star player. Embiid turned out to what looks to be a generational type player. A five star ranking for a 16 year old relative to a group of 18 year olds is impressive. We might get a lot more out of him next year than I expected.

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Benz Junque 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Generational players go for more than 11 and 8 per game. I get that Embiid's FUTURE is bright but he won't even be the best freshman big man KU has in a five year period let alone in a generation. Honestly, I fully expect Alexander to put up much better numbers than that.

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Allen Shepard 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You're having an argument with a point of view of your own invention.

you can just shut that up and compare Embiid's per 40 numbers favorabley to the freshman years of Hakeem and Shaq.. look it up yourself

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Benz Junque 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Per 40 minutes stats are the most overrated in the world.

Freshman years: Player A: 19.8 points per 40, 17.8 rebounds per 40, 5.1 blocks per 40 Player B: 19.4 points per 40, 14.0 rebounds per 40, 4.5 blocks per 40 Player C: 19.8 points per 40, 14.4 rebounds per 40, 4.4 blocks per 40 Player D: 16.9 points per 40, 18.7 rebounds per 40, 5.3 blocks per 40

A: Shaq, B: Joel, C: Greg Ostertag, D: Jeff Withey

Per 40 stats are ridiculous as comparisons or else Jeff Withey was also a "generational talent" and most of us here questioned whether or not he was good enough to even contribute at this level after his freshman year.

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Jonathan Allison 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Jeff Withey's freshman statistics were essentially garnered against creme puff competition, during mop up minutes, or in a random outburst against Iowa State. Embiid at least played in meaningful starting minutes against our top competition's top competitors (with the obvious exclusion of post-season play).

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Walter Bridges 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Alexander's numbers surpass Embiid's but looking ahead, I would be surprised if Embiid did not become an NBA superstar. You are still looking at a young player with limited experience who already has shown incredible natural athletic ability.

I am certainly not saying that Alexander will not be a highly successful NBA player but I don't think at the same level as Embiid. This is obviously pure speculation on my part Benz and I doubt we will be looking back 10 to 15 years from now to argue the point.

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Andy Hess 3 months, 3 weeks ago

...and in the meantime, Phog.net doesn't even have Svee listed as a commit at all. Get with the program, Scout!

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Noel Graham 3 months, 3 weeks ago

247sports gave Mykhailiuk a 4 star rating and ranked him 31st in the 2014 class. I think people need to temper their expectations. He is only 17 this month and he has not played the type of physical basketball he will see in the NCAA. We may be more of a role-player this year before contributing more as a sophomore and junior.

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Walter Bridges 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Mykhailiuk's rankings really don't matter at this point. I think it would be fair to say that he is definitely among the top 50 players coming in as a freshman and add to that he is one year younger than the others and I think KU will definitely come out ahead having him on the team.

Of course he hasn't seen the physicality at the college level but neither have the other freshman. With our strength program being at the top tier in college basketball, I agree with you that we will see a lot more contribution his second year. I just look at this as being a good get by Coach Self with nothing but a positive upside.

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Gerry Butler 3 months, 3 weeks ago

whoa, I have tempered aspects of the kid, noel but role player? REALLY? SERIOUSLY? tempered or not we are talking about a kid this has been observed by many experts including NBA scouts role player ia a little out in left field i'll take some of the smoke your having. yes please. and uh where ever he has played its been against older more physical then his ownself, I understand people may be over rating him some at this point, but lets not under estimate the kid either I mean the profile on this kid has to have some credibility from somewhere

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Reggie Flenory 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You hit the nail on the head my friend

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Benz Junque 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Every other player on the depth chart ahead of him has the same basic write up. I'll be surprised if Svi is more than a decent backup next year.

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Jeff Kilgore 3 months, 3 weeks ago

As big a KU fan as I am, I would take Julius Randall first. He was the obvious best player on a team of All Americans. His natural power and speed aren't something a scout has gamble on in future years. Saying all this, I don't see how you lose picking any of these players. Rock Chalk!

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Adam Tyler 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Its a good thing you arent a NBA GM.

Julius Randle is shorter than Wiggins and Parker, but is trying to be a post player.

He bullied his way to points and rebounds in college. He will be a solid piece, but will not be a franchise changing talent.

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Brett McCabe 3 months, 3 weeks ago

A short power-player just doesn't work in the NBA. Just ask Charles Barkeley.

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Jeff Kilgore 3 months, 3 weeks ago

We'll see. He scored at will over the 7 footer from Wisconsin who will be a great player himself. By the way, when all my mates at work liked Oden over Durant, I liked Durant. My eye ain't that bad, and if you don't think players bully other players in the NBA, you don't watch much.

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Benz Junque 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yeah, Durant was a real diamond in the rough... All that means is that your friends at work are fools. Randle will be a decent pro but I don't see him as an NBA all star.

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Allen Shepard 3 months, 3 weeks ago

He used a strength advantage to get his numbers in college, and he won't have that in the pros. He's a rotation player, maybe a starter, in the NBA.

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Walter Bridges 3 months, 3 weeks ago

It wouldn't completely surprised me but I think it would be a mistake. Looking at the top talent in this years draft, there is certainly a deep pool of talent where it is possible for a GM to make a surprise choice and still come out a winner. Still, I think the earliest you will hear Randall's name will be #4.

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Noel Graham 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I would rather underestimate him than overestimate. I could absolutely be wrong on this kid but most freshman ranked in the 30s are role players their first year. I don't think he will start over Oubre and we are crowded at the guard position. The big question will be how he is on the defensive end. Is he going to come in like Greene and earn 5-10 minutes a night and quickly get the hook? I would be surprised if he averaged more than 15 minutes a game or more than 8 or 9 points. I would lover to be 100% wrong on him.

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Dirk Medema 3 months, 3 weeks ago

A 5 would rank him higher than the 30's. #24 Juquan Lyles was the lowest ranked 5, so he's more likely to be in the teens. Still, you're spot on for the rest of the analysis. Not likely to play ahead of a top 10 player with a year of experience, or even another top 10, although maybe that 5* is a top 10 also. The D, and help D in particular, will be the real determinant there. How he works into the team will make all the difference in the world.

Crazy how Coach (staff) keeps finding these guys.

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John Randall 3 months, 3 weeks ago

If it was "awarded", it cannot be a rating but must be some kind of prize.

I get more than a little sick to my stomach hearing KU boards sound like a ranch owner bragging about how many prize bulls he owns.

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Aaron Paisley 3 months, 3 weeks ago

A low 5 star/ high 4 star sounds about right for Svee. That's generally anywhere from about 20th to 40th is about where his current skill set is. By the the time he leaves KU, he very well could be one of the top prospects to come out of the 2014 class. Svee is not going to start over Selden or Oubre and will likely be battling Brannen Greene to be the back up big guard for KU next season. Don't be shocked if Svee is not a major factor at all next season because he does play a position where KU has very talented depth. His biggest asset for minutes next year will be his ball handling. If that's as good as advertised, then he very well could get some minutes in that role alongside a PG when KU needs a taller ball handler on the court.

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Brian Wilson 3 months, 3 weeks ago

IMO, Noel Graham above is spot on. Svee will most likely not start and will be a role player in his first year. Svee did play on a Euro pro team against older and bigger players. But in reality he wasn't all that good. He didnt even start and he could only muster about 5.9 pts per game. So what does that say for him starting in our top 5. It was the under 16 league where averaged over 25pts per game. Svee did gain experience playing against bigger players and he has the 4 to 5 star skills but apparently he lacks the strength and there are many scouts that have noted it. Maybe that changes before he gets to KU. IDK. But, For the past year. "Svee" has mostly displayed his impressive talent in practices. Other than against younger players in the 16 and under league, Svee has not displayed consistent greatness against the big boys. In addition. He has never played in front of a crowd or in a place like Allen Fieldhouse. Since he says he is serious about playing in the NBA, I feel it obvious he plans on staying more than one year because he has to be 19. In addition, He is not stupid, and he knows he needs to develop so what better place to learn your first year than coming off the bench behind Selden at the 2 spot. Although Svee has good ball skills and could play PG we have better ball handlers. So at the 2 Svee gives us a tall SG that can shoot lights out while helping with the ball. Also with his ball skills the 2 is the most likely position for him in the NBA. Both Selden and Svee are fairly good ballhandlers. Which is why I believe Oubre and Greene will play the 3 spit while Connor holds off Graham for a year and then switches to SG next year. To finish, Svee's skills on video tape look awesome. So lets give him some time to translate that to the big time.

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Allen Shepard 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Separate things into paragraphs if you want people to read your long comments.

i don't want any part of that wall of text.

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Matthew Pyle 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Who cares! The only thing that matters is how he performs for the Jayhawks. Rankings mean squat... we've had more than our share of 3 and 4 star players turn out to be studs and vice versa.

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Allen Shepard 3 months, 3 weeks ago

No, we haven't had very many three stars who turned out to be studs.

We've had hardly any 5 stars who never turned our to be significant contributors.

Rankings are useful.

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Noel Graham 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Ironically, one of the 5 star players we have had whose game Svee is most comparable to is Micah Downs. Very similar type of player in terms of build and skill set. Now, Micah's problems were mostly between the ears, and of course that girlfriend back home. Svee will hopefully turn out to be what Micah was supposed to be.

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