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Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Cyclones psyched to have Mark Mangino back in Big 12

Iowa State offensive coordinator Mark Mangino, center, looks on during Iowa State's annual spring football game, Saturday, April 12, 2014, in Ames, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Iowa State offensive coordinator Mark Mangino, center, looks on during Iowa State's annual spring football game, Saturday, April 12, 2014, in Ames, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

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— The first time Iowa State defensive end Cory Morrissey saw Mark Mangino, the former Kansas coach and current ISU offensive coordinator stopped him in his tracks.

“He didn’t know who I was, he didn’t know where I came from but he was very personable and he just came up and started talking to me,” Morrissey said Tuesday during Day 2 of Big 12 media days at the Omni Hotel. “I thought that was great. For someone that’s had so much success like him to come into a program and do that, my first impression was really, really good.”

Since that day last spring, most of Morrissey’s interactions with Mangino have come from trying to stop the seemingly endless number of formations and plays Mangino has thrown at the Cyclones’ defense in practices. Although such a challenge has proven exhausting at times, both Morrissey and ISU linebacker Jevohn Miller are dreaming big about what a more high-powered offense could mean for ISU this fall.

“For three years, we’ve kind of been seeing the same offense in practice,” Miller said. “But it was nice getting him in there and seeing new plays and kind of reacting and going back to playing football instead of knowing what’s coming. We kind of talk to him a little bit and say, ‘Come on, give us something else.’ He gets into it.”

Getting into it with his players was the very thing that led to Mangino’s departure from KU, as former Kansas athletic director Lew Perkins’ investigation into improper treatment of KU players led to Mangino’s forced resignation following the 2009 season. Every ISU player present Tuesday said they found it hard to believe that Mangino, who spent eight seasons at Kansas and was the consensus national coach of the year in 2007, could take things too far. Few said it better than offensive lineman Tom Farniok.

“My first thought was, ‘Oh man, I hope the rumors aren’t true,’” Farniok recalled upon hearing the news of Mangino’s hiring. “And then I met him and thought, ‘There’s no way this guy is like that.’ He’s just demanding. He wants to get the best out of you, and if he can’t do it by talking, he’s gonna jump ya. To me, that’s football. That’s how it works.”

Although he has yet to join the Cyclones on gameday, Mangino already has made his energetic presence felt. The Cyclones said Mangino brought maximum effort each time, whether it was in the film room going over mistakes, in the meeting room planning or on the practice field working on execution.

“He’s phenomenal,” said ISU tight end E.J. Bibbs, who plays the position Mangino coaches in addition to his O.C. duties. “I love being around him. He’s goofy. I like being in the meeting room with him and talking to him. He’s really smart when it comes to X’s and O’s and you can tell he knows his stuff.”

That was the idea behind ISU coach Paul Rhoads’ decision to hire Mangino, who most recently coached as an assistant at Youngstown State after spending a few years away from football.

“I think he was anxious to get back to this level,” Rhoads said of Mangino, who is now working with his fourth Big 12 program. “He wasn’t going to just jump back in at any job. I think he saw the opportunity for success at our place. He liked the way that the program was being run. He knew that we’re full of toughness from playing us in 2009 and talking to other people that had been playing us since then.”

Mangino’s toughness and passion for the game have been contagious early on during his time at Iowa State. Offensive and defensive players alike have become enamored by what Mangino brings to their facility and they’re eager to learn what more he can do.

“I think he can teach everyone in the program a lot,” Farniok said. “He took Kansas to an Orange Bowl and I think all of our players and coaches can learn about building a program from him. He just brings a lot of wisdom and experience that, really, no one else has.”

Added Miller: “I knew he wasn’t gonna hurt us, that’s for sure. He’s definitely going to help us. I think it’s a huge advantage for us because he’s a great coach who has produced in the Big 12 and knows the competition and what it takes to win.”

Comments

Chris Bailey 3 years, 4 months ago

The curse of the mangino. Could we be the Red Sox of college football? Just a thought. Mangino was a hell of a coach. He demanded the best from his players and the fruits of his labor were an Orange Bowl win and then fired by Lew. What a terrible turn of events. Lew was a wolf in sheeps clothing just waiting for the opportunity to ax MM. Sad because we had a good thing going and we may never reach that level of success again. Hopefully I'm wrong and hopefully we don't have to wait 100 years to win another big game and have a big season.

John Myers 3 years, 4 months ago

With the exception of the Orange Bowl "lightning in a bottle" year, Mangino had one year that we hit .500 in the conference, and it was followed up by a 1-7 conference year. I'm not saying he isn't/wasn't a good coach, but I really don't think he was as great as everyone wants to remember. It would have definitely been interesting if we had kept him on a few more years to see what happened, though.

Andy Hess 3 years, 4 months ago

Exactly. Under Mangino, we were average overall for about three years, really great for one year, finished with a 1-7 conference record on his last year, never really a conference threat, and people are anointing him as the unfairly dismissed savior of KU football. It would indeed be interesting to see what would happen had he been allowed to stay, but let us not forget what also helped cost him his job. The guy was a jerk, and that's putting it mildly. Players didn't like him, and some of the coaching staff didn't care for him much either. If he's changed his ways now, more power to him. But while he was here, he was an insufferable loudmouth who irritated a goof portion of anyone who associated with him. In my opinion, Lew's biggest fault here is not in firing Mangino, but in hiring and overpaying Turner Gill, when there were far more competent and capable coaches interested in the job at the time.

Brad Farha 3 years, 4 months ago

We'll never know if Mangino could have succeeded in the post-Reesing era, but I agree with you that Perkins' biggest mistake was in hiring Gill (5 year, $10M, no performance/buyout clause) when others were interested. Couldn't understand the move then, and it still infuriates me now.

Brad Farha 3 years, 4 months ago

Let's not forget that Reesing was injured in the 1st conference game of the 2009 season. We still won that game, but he was hampered the rest of the season. Think it was later admitted to be a groin injury, and you could tell by his play. Didn't scramble as well, couldn't plant his feet in the best stance for accurate/deep throws. That changed everything for a team that heavily relied upon his playmaking. Imagine A&M that past couple of years with an injured Johnny Football.

Aaron Paisley 3 years, 4 months ago

Reesing didn't get hurt in the ISU game, he got hurt in the Colorado game.

Brad Farha 3 years, 4 months ago

Thanks Aaron, you are right. It was that 2nd conference game with Colorado, and we barely lost it. Same point though -- once he was hurt, we had a hard time the rest of the season.

Michael Leiker 3 years, 4 months ago

You guys are drunk, KU played legitimately solid football from 2003-2008 under Mangino, competitive, fundamental football. This crap about it being a one hit wonder is revisionist history.

Brad Farha 3 years, 4 months ago

I agree with you -- my comments about Reesing being hurt dooming the 2009 season were not a crack on Mangino's coaching. I was a fan of the big guy, and was sorry to see him go. Loved the competitiveness of those teams.

John Myers 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm not cracking his coaching. I agree that he is a good coach and that we played decent football, but people around here act like we were destined for greatness with the man, and the records would seem to state otherwise.

John Randall 3 years, 4 months ago

"legitimately solid" is pretty much a stretch – non-con patsies covered for 3 conf losses every year, then we pulled a couple out the year UT, aTm, TT weren't scheduled, out-bid MU to get the major bowl bid and pulled off a win. Todd was a Doug Flutie for a couple of healthy seasons, but there isn't much else to hang your hat on. What makes us look to MM years so longingly is the collective records before and since.

Robert Rauktis 3 years, 4 months ago

"Every ISU player present Tuesday said they found it hard to believe that Mangino, who spent eight seasons at Kansas and was the consensus national coach of the year in 2007, could take things too far. "

Mangino's revenge is to live his life well and win lots of football games. Thank you, Lewser Perkins.

Chris Bailey 3 years, 4 months ago

Indeed. But we'll never know now will we. The smart would've have been seeing what he did with the post Todd Reesing era but now we'll be left to speculate.

Jim Stauffer 3 years, 4 months ago

Reesing being injured and no one to step in should tell you how well MM took advantage of being a top 10 team two years before. We never even had a decent back up for Todd 2 years later.

His ship was sinking in a bad way. We messed up by not replacing him with a real FB coach instead of TG.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

I get so fed up with the talk of a 1-7 conference record in Mangino's last year. The Great Inquisition was on, and there was so much attention being given to the investigation that both MM and his players were not focused on the season. Hell, Mangino was faced with questions at post-game conferences in many of those conference games. Players were being interviewed about the investigation during the season. If anyone thinks the cloud over the program did not affect the win-loss record, the cohesion of the team, and MM's ability to coach it then they are delusional and know little, if anything, about football. Next.

Ryan Michael 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm glad someone else remembers this... That season shouldn't be held against Mangino at all. If anything, that season should be credited to Lew. It was blatantly obvious to everyone that Lew had set his sights on firing Mangino and finding a way to do so. With all of that drama happening, back-door meetings with players (without Mangino) etc, it's no wonder the team didn't play as an actual team.

I'm not saying Mangino is the greatest coach ever, or that he is above criticism, I just don't think that last season can or should be held against him in any way.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

Exactly. Like the boys who won the Orange Bowl the year before just went and got stupid for no good reason at all. Just got it in their minds, somehow, that they couldn't play. At this point in life, I should no longer be amazed at some peoples' lack of the ability to put "2" and "2" together. Wow.

Patrick Leiker 3 years, 4 months ago

We didn't go 1-7 the year after we won the Orange Bowl. We went 1-7 two years after that. We did, barely, make a bowl the year after the orange bowl tho, and only did that thanks to a 4th down go ahead td from Reesing to Meyer on a broken play against Mizzou.

David Kelley-Wood 3 years, 4 months ago

He steadily built the program, until he was undermined (at least, that's my view), into what was arguably the best KU has ever seen. You don't just stumble-bum your way into an Orange Bowl Championship and consensus Coach of the Year accolades.

Aaron Paisley 3 years, 4 months ago

KU was already bowl eligible prior to the Missouri game.

Kevin Kelly 3 years, 4 months ago

His issue is not unlike the coach we have now. If he ever figures out how to be a consistently good person, his ability to coach may be more consistent. With Charlie it's arrogance that has gotten in his way in the recent years. With Mangino it was rage.

Take it from someone who has struggled as well...you can do your job better than most and people will ignore your abrasive personality for a good while. But its like roulette...sooner or later the perfect situation is going to come up and you are going to be run off for being an ass.

I hope both find a way to get out of their own way and relax a bit. Life's pretty good.

Joseph Bullock 3 years, 4 months ago

his last year, as we all found out later, Todd played hurt, most of the season! Also, when you have elements who mean to do you (and the program harm), it is a bad situation for any coach. and when you have a AD who doesn't like you, that is even worse. and who knows how many on that team, who could not handle a tough coach (this is major college football, right). did what they could, to not succeed, because they did not like Mangino. some kids just have trouble being a man, or being sat down for the first time in their life, and rebel, which is exactly what happened. Mangino is a great coach!

Aaron Paisley 3 years, 4 months ago

By 2009, it was not a secret that Perkins and Mangino didn't get along. Perkins wanted to fire Mangino after the 2006 season that KU went 6-6 and didn't get a bowl invite, but was talked into giving Mangino one more year because of how close KU was to a great season in 2006 (4 of the losses came late in the 4th quarter or OT). Mangino delivered the best season in school history in 2007 and Perkins was forced to give Mangino an extension he never wanted to give Mangino.

By the 2009 season, KU was a flawed team without a good defense, no running game, only one competent WR, and no back up QB (because he was the only competent WR).

The 2009 season still could have been salvaged had KU beaten Missouri in the last game and gotten bowl eligible, but Mangino's game management (never a strength of his) on KU's final possession cost KU that game.

I personally was fine with Mangino being let go because KU was trending downward and not building any recruiting momentum off the Orange Bowl win. I didn't agree in any way with the reason Mangino was let go, because if you knew the history between Mangino and Perkins at the time, you knew it was just Perkins looking for any excuse to fire Mangino and Perkins did it at the expense of KU's football future because he severely limited the type of candidates because of how he ran Mangino off. If Perkins had just said that he didn't like the direction the program was trending after the Orange Bowl win and publicly fired Mangino for that reason, it would not have limited the candidate pool to nice guys only. That move still would've ticked some people off, and KU absolutely could've still ended up where it is now, but I believe both men would have drastically different reputations today had the situation played out like that instead of how it really played out.

Robert Brown 3 years, 4 months ago

While there is a lot of revisionist history about Mangino's success, he still only had one winning conference season. However, his teams were competitive. They blew a lot of 4th quarter leads, but unlike recent KU teams, blowing 4th quarter leads means that the team had a chance to win.

Of the top of my head, in the final 1-7 season, KU had late leads against Colorado, Texas Tech, Nebraska, and Missouri and lost a close game to KSU. In the four years since Mangino left, we probably had only 4-5 games in total where the outcome was in doubt late in the 4th quarter. That is the difference.

Aaron Paisley 3 years, 4 months ago

The only one of those games KU had a late lead was the Missouri game. KU spotted a big lead to Colorado and had a chance to win on their last possession, but couldn't finish. Texas Tech won by 21 so that game was never close. The Nebraska game was close with NU getting a late score to make it look worse, but I don't remember KU ever leading late in that one. KSU was close, but KU never led late in that one. The one Big 12 win that year over ISU was also one KU nearly lost because ISU on their final play had a WR get behind the defense, but the QB badly over threw the pass and KU got very lucky on that one.

Robert Brown 3 years, 4 months ago

Before ranting off the top of your head, it might be good to get your facts straight regarding the 2009 season.

Against Colorado, KU took the lead late in the game after falling way behind, only to have Colorado score quickly afterward.

Against Texas Tech, KU had a lead going into the 4th quarter, Tech scored 28 points to make the game look like a rout. Reesing had a terrible 4th quarter as I recall. The Nebraska game was close as you mentioned, as was the KSU game.

Andy Smith 3 years, 4 months ago

Up by one with 7 minutes remaining in the 4th, KU defense busted a 3rd and long screen pass by Nebraska. They would have punted, however KU was called for a face mask penalty. KU player was going for pick behind the line of scrimmage in a scrum of players. His hands got close to the face of Nebraska receiver. Nebraska drive stayed alive. They scored twice in the 4th. Well, they were awarded two touchdowns in the 4th.

Stephen Simmons 3 years, 4 months ago

Coaching football at KU is a particular challenge because of how long it takes to build a program from scratch. Mangino had us headed in that direction, and had his personality issues not become unbearable, he's have likely been able to continue to grow and strengthen things at KU. Wies faces a similar challenge.

Let's not forget, however, that Mangino was allegedly a total jerk with pretty much everybody. It's one thing to be tough on players, but when you're arguing with campus parking staff you're not very smart. For me, the biggest "warning sign" about what kind of guy Mangino is, was the incident where he got thrown out of his own kid's high school football game for arguing with the refs. You may expect that kind of "crazed parent" behavior from some people, but when you're in a high-profile, public job, you should know better.

Bottom line, the dude had big time anger and self-control issues, and that's what got him fired. End of story. Maybe getting knocked down a few pegs got him to take a look at his own behavior patterns and he's a changed man. Then again, maybe not, but if you're losing control at yourself at high school football games, I'm not so sure I want you running a major university's football team.

Joel Hood 3 years, 4 months ago

I agree fully with Stephen Simmons - thanks for recalling the greater history of Mangino. I posted the following years ago, and nothing has changed -

The man was a bully.
He bullied his players.
He bullied his assistant coaches.
He bullied administrative staff.
He bullied student employees not assoicated with athletics.
He bullied his own family members in public.
(Don't confuse bully with disciplinarian - one does not equate the other.)

Yes he won. He was also an embarrassment for many reasons not related to his weight. I want to win too, but not with someone with his character flaws.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

"He’s just demanding. He wants to get the best out of you, and if he can’t do it by talking, he’s gonna jump ya. To me, that’s football. That’s how it works.”

Ethan Berger 3 years, 4 months ago

Seems an issue is to me is that we keep whiffing on hiring a guy who becomes huge. Meyer and Harbaugh come to mind. Mangino came in a horrible situation and gave us good memories. To my knowledge it was never denied that he said what he said and he has temper issues. But that team gave us hope (unless we played Tech,Ut (05 gave them a great game), and UT). Gill was a disaster. In Perkins defense, Gill was viewed to many as the next big thing. Looking back his recruits left us bare. Got a stable of running backs but no qbs,wrs,o line, a couple decent d line, did well with linebackers but not well with the secondary. Charlie might not lead us to wins but with his recruiting, I feel much more encouraged. We just have to find the next big thing at coach if Charlie doesn't pan out.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

I just want to know one thing from all of you people complaining about Mark Mangino. Which coach in the history of Kansas football was better? Here's a startling statistic. Mark Mangino has as many postseason wins at Kansas as all of the rest of their coaches combined. Get over yourselves. Mangino, by the stats, is arguably the greatest coach at Kansas ever. If he were interested in ever returning to KU (that is, if Kansas were ever LUCKY enough that MM should become interested), we would be FOOLS to not hire him immediately. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kansas_Jayhawks_head_football_coaches

Robert Brown 3 years, 4 months ago

Tough question given KU's abysmal history of hiring football coaches. I don't complain about Mangino as I look fondly at his tenure. It got me excited about KU football. He took us from the bottom of the Big 12 to maybe the 6th or 7th best program which is pretty mediocre. If you look at conference success, I think Glen Mason was more successful.

It is hard NOT get a bowl bid in a major conference especially back in the Big 12 days where you could schedule four 'cupcakes' and only need to win two conference games.

You can't compare post-season success because the game is different and there are many more minor bowl games.

Bottom line, the star aligned in 2007, but KU plateaued as the 7th or 8th best program in the Big 12. That is why we went to two bowls played before Christmas and one that was only televised on the NFL network.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

The abysmal history of hiring Kansas coaches must be factored in, as they shaped the record, traditions, and perceptions of the program. Furthermore, to say the history of hiring coaches has been less than stellar at Kansas is NOT the same as saying hiring MM was a bad hire. In fact it wasnt. Mangino fielded competitive teams and made Kansas football fun to watch. I accept your point about the greater number of bowl games; however, what you can not argue is that any other coach at Kansas produced a major bowl victory, not even your Glen Mason. And although we could go back and forth over who is the best coach (I could lay out some more stats for you, but cutting to the chase...), Mark Mangino is CLEARLY in the discussion for serious consideration as the best of all time. Some of the comments here belie this reality. I had worse done to me playing high school ball than anything I've ever read about coming from MM. It's football. Not canoeing...not curling...not archery. These guys are hitting each other with strength few on the face of this planet possess, but they deserve to be spoken to with Big Bird style softness? You speak of mediocrity. But you entrap yourself with relativist language. If you're a cellar dwellar for years and years, then being "average" means youve reached a level of competitiveness that's orders above where you've been, and is something to be thankful for rather than sneered at. Throw in a major bowl victory for the first time ever in your program, and just watch how ungrateful people can be. This amounts to nothing short of ridiculousness. The flames were fanned by Lew Perkins who wanted him out, charges were exaggerated in many cases (according to some members of the teams who played for him), and many fans bought into the lie that Mangino wasn't worth having here. Idiocy at it's very finest...

Robert Brown 3 years, 4 months ago

Having followed KU football since the late 1960s, I would have to agree that Mangino is the best coach that KU has had in the last 50 years. The only coaches that come close are Glen Mason and Pepper Rodgers. Those two along with Mangino each had one magical season that was totally unexpected. Each team entered the season unranked. In 1968, KU tied OU for the Big 8 championship-- it's last football championship. Mason's 1995 team tied for 2nd in the Big 8 with KSU and Colorado and won the Aloha bowl which was a more important bowl at that time.

Again, remember that teams that were 5-5 or 6-4 or 6-5 back in Mason or Rodger's did not usually go to bowl games.

John Randall 3 years, 4 months ago

Better coaches at KU? Jack Mitchell, Pepper Rodgers, Frank Mason – at least two of those three.

Bowl game appearances can't be compared between eras with fewer than ten bowl games a year and the present when half of the BCS teams go each year.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

I assume you meant Glen Mason instead of Frank. I dont hold it against you, but I sense the irony that we are indeed a basketball school. You say at least two of the three are better, but none of them have a major bowl victory and all of them have a lower winning percentage than Mangino, two of which had shorter tenures (meaning that to achieve the higher win percentage, Mangino had to display some kind of consistency of winning above the others). If it's true that any of them were better coaches, the stats don't tell the tale of it, so I'd ask you to support your opinion with some intangibles the others had that Mangino lacked.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 years, 4 months ago

One thing I am not seeing here is the acknowledgement that while Mangino was defensive coordinator at Oklahoma, they won a national championship.

Now when he gets to Kansas and sees the abysmal performance of the past (and since) he gets wound up and motivated to have some success at KU. But then there are the people who feel he is a "bully" and "angry". I would be angry to with the situation that has existed for years at KU. And the ipsy-poo athletic department caves in to the naysayers and fires him.

Mangino is a football coach, not a Sunday school teacher. He is a very good football coach. Public relations, unfortunately, is not his strong suit. But success is, and his view that he was not seeing the desire for success at KU, a yearly problem, would make any person very upset and angry.

The list of following one or two year term coaches bears it out that there is something very wrong with the football program at KU and it would seem that no one seems to get it and it continues under the present coach. I would anticipate that this year will be his last and we will another coach with high goals who will also be eaten by the KU football program.

Firing Mangino was about as stupid an act as one can imagine and until something very positive happens at KU, it may well be the nail in the coffin of success of any sort of winning football program at KU.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

A voice of common sense and rational thinking.

David Kelley-Wood 3 years, 4 months ago

Who recruited Todd Reesing? I think it just may have been Mark Mangino. That would also be the same Mark Mangino who recruited Reesing teammates who have since surpassed him in terms of successful professional football careers. Obviously, Todd Reesing was very important to the success of the team, and KU wouldn't have won the Orange Bowl without him, but the team wouldn't have been an abject failure, as you seem to suggest with your Mangino = Reesing oversimplification.

Joe Ross 3 years, 4 months ago

For the 401st time. Recruiting is a part of coaching. Programs in his own state of Texas passed on Reesing. Who else had the vision to bring in a QB under 6', coach him up, and replace a QB with quarterbacking in his DNA (making him a receiver)? This was a gamble! Mangino deserves the credit for seeing potential and making sure he was ready to play in DI football. Your comments show ignorance to the fact that great play at ANY level is not merely dependent on personal talent. The most you can say is that Reesing brought raw ability to the table and that the coach merely polished these skills and employed him in such a way that he was used to the greatest effect for the team. Well DUH! That's true for Nick Saban at Auburn. It was true for Joe Pa. Tom Osborne. Bill Snyder. Hell, it's true for BILL SELF! I mean REALLY? That's what you're going with to discredit Mangino?

These posts get weirder and weirder...

Bryce Landon 3 years, 4 months ago

The question I have is, what was his temperament like at Kansas State and Oklahoma before he came to Kansas?

John Randall 3 years, 4 months ago

Irrelevant … he wasn't The Coach, he was on the Coaching Staff.
Once he was in charge, all the frustrations he could have expected became too much for him to maintain an acceptable equilibrium.

Lance Hobson 3 years, 4 months ago

Winningest coach we ever had, 3 bowls, bowl eligible for another, always competitive. Even the last year with heart breaking losses to CU and MU. Perkins really screwed us, just like he did WSU.

Fred Davis 3 years, 4 months ago

I think some folks are forgetting something here - this is Kansas Football we're talking about, not Kansas Basketball - Mark Mangino won a BCS BOWL for this school. I don't care if he went 0-8 every other season he was here - that's remarkable considering the shoddy history of KU's football program.

He inherited a crap program, recruited his tail off and put together a span of some of the best football Lawrence ever saw. I'd challenge anyone to come up with a better experience than KU beating Nebraska and snapping a 36-game losing streak at home to a PACKED Memorial Stadium with Cornish running wild. He found a diminutive QB out of Austin and turned the kid into a monster - he found a basketball player out of Beaumont and made him an All-American LT - Anthony Collins - he found a 2-Star DB out of Dallas whose only offer was to WYOMING and made him a First Round NFL pick - Aqib Talib. Mangino compiled a helluva staff and sent guys to the NFL - and this was back when Texas and OU were good. Point is - he put together a damn good staff and they found some real diamonds in the rough.

Sure, things fell apart - and they did so rapidly - but he never had the support of his AD and when his staff started to leave - which happens when programs improve - he was never able to recover and the disaster of 2010 sunk his battleship. But for anyone to suggest that the tenure of Mark Mangino is 'overrated' either doesn't know football or has no perspective on what a successful tenure with KU Football really is. Besides - the Man wore VELOUR JUMPSUITS on the sidelines. That nugget alone should put him on hallowed ground.

LONG LIVE BLUEBERRY.

Rock Chalk.

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