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Saturday, February 1, 2014

Demarcus Holland, Longhorns stymie Andrew Wiggins

Kansas guard Andrew Wiggins reacts after being called for his fifth foul during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 1, 2014 at Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.

Kansas guard Andrew Wiggins reacts after being called for his fifth foul during the second half on Saturday, Feb. 1, 2014 at Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.

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TEXAS 81, KANSAS 69

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— The most misleading number on the box score of Saturday’s 81-69 Texas victory against Kansas University revealed the point total for Longhorns guard Demarcus Holland, a 6-foot-2 sophomore.

He scored four points. More telling numbers as to his value: He had 11 rebounds, three assists and two steals. The man he guarded, KU’s leading scorer, Andrew Wiggins, scored seven points on 2-for-12 shooting.

“I knew my teammates would have my back,” Holland said of checking Wiggins. “I knew he would try to be aggressive and try to put fouls on me to get me out of the game. I knew he likes to crash the boards, so I tried to box him out every opportunity I got.”

And he knew the six inches he gave up to Wiggins weren’t that relevant.

“Cam Ridley and Prince Ebeh were scaring him so he started settling for jump shots,” Holland said of teammates who had four blocked shots apiece among the Longhorns’ dozen blocks.

Holland paid Wiggins a compliment, calling him, “a very good player. He’s expected to be a lottery pick. He’s really skilled. He’s a winner, so I respect him.”

Texas coach Rick Barnes’ face lit up every time someone asked him about Holland’s performance.

“He was outstanding,” Barnes said. “All year long, I’m not sure people appreciate what he’s done. I’m telling you, his teammates and our staff appreciate him. He does it every day. That’s how he practices every day. Him coming up with offensive rebounds, getting those extra possessions at the times he did, that was great.”

Texas held Kansas to 23 first-half points and Holland had as big a hand in that as anybody. He plays a role similar to that played for KU by Travis Releford in his final two seasons.

“I always like to be involved in the impact plays that are not in the box scores all the time,” Holland said. “On good teams, you always have to have that guy who is always in the right spot, always trying to get an offensive rebound and trying to box out a key player, trying to contain a good player on another team. I think that’s what I do every game.”

He did it to near-perfection in helping his team to knock off the perennial Big 12 champion.

Comments

Chuck Stones 8 months, 3 weeks ago

“Cam Ridley and Prince Ebeh were scaring him so he started settling for jump shots,” Holland said of teammates who had four blocked shots apiece among the Longhorns’ dozen blocks.

BINGO - not just Wiggins, the whole team, except maybe Selden.

DaNeille Davis 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Wiggins and Embiid are in no way ready for the big boys of the NBA. They need to continue to develop their game in college. Riding the pine in the NBA will do nothing to improve their game.

Suzi Marshall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

DaNeille is correct on the merrits of the post. "Wiggins and Embiid are in now way ready for the big boys of the NBA." That statement is an absolute fact and should be readily clear to everyone.

Your statement that both will be top five picks, is also very true and should also be clear to eveyone. Few would debate the validity of the balance of your statement.

The point of debate is where players can best develope their skills. Labron and Koby will provide one point of view while Duncan, Robinson and other bigs may provide a counter point. Still another opinion might be found from guys like Selby and Kybongo.

It's a personal decision each player needs to make.

Gerry Butler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I have an inkling, just a lil gut feeling maybe just maybe that NBA scouts which consist a lot of former NBA players themselves MIGHT just MIGHT know just a little bit more then people on this message board, and I'm telling you, that you can take it to the bank that they will definitely without a doubt that jo jo and Andrew are most DEFINETELY ready to go to the NBA they don't judge a players talent ability on 1 or 2 or 3 games they determine on potential and skill, do you think marcus smart is or was wiser for coming back for his sophomore yr? do you think he is a better player then he was last year? do you think he is gonna be drafted higher then he would of been last yr? the answer is ABSOLUTLEY NOT ! ! ! ! and tell me if and that's a big if what if Andrew and jo jo both came back next yr what happens if they substain a major injury a possible career ending injury where the NBA is out then what? you have to remember the NBA is what these guys have dreamed about for their lives it IS THEIR LIFE its all about the money, if the NBA scouts say their ready, if coach self says and he is very straight up to these guys about what they should do if he says they are stupid if they are projected to be a top 5 pick or whatever then they would be stupid to come back and take THAT CHANCE of being hurt and losing their chance to MAKE it to the NBA or take a hard hit to where they go in the NBA the difference of being an NBA stud or as one has said a pine rider. that's why these guys are NBSA scouts and are where they are at and we are at where we are at I think that maybe they know jusssssst a little more then we do.

Suzi Marshall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

We came up for the OSU/BU games and stayed at The Oread. During our stay we ran into several scouts including Chris Mullens and Mitch Richmond. We ran into them often at the Bird Dog, 5 Twenty One, the Terraces and Pizza Place. We never talked except on Tuesday morning when I asked him in the Bird Dog his impressions. To no surprise he essentially said all the freshman should stay in school but if they came out, they would be drafted high, depending on each teams specific needs. He did say the league would work with them to get stronger, improve shooting skills but there was a limit on the teaching time. Reference Morris in Houston and why McKale sent him down to the D League.

Although not specifically mentioned, I got the impression he was telling me the decision for a wing like Wiggins is entirely different than a big like Embiid. Neverheless upside potential is the driver.

As struggles against big physical opponents, i.e. UT, Nova, UF and SDSU. He'd have that kind of situation every single night....times 3.

John Randall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Scut, listen to your own scat – it isn't "so wrong" that other things than $$ should matter in this world. While further development (wherever they spend next year) is a certainty, their lives are about more than the talent we all see on the basketball court. They each are smart and grounded well enough that character growth opportunity will be a factor in their decisions. It's not for DaNeille, not for you, not for me to dictate should or shouldn't from our keyboards.

Gerry Butler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

and if you think wiggins will come back next year to ku you have been smoking some really feel good. NO WAY will he come back, the NBA is a totally different game and to you way of thinking ANDREW will not be riding pine in the NBA nice dream though

Mark Lindrud 8 months, 2 weeks ago

We all know Wiggins is gone and there is no point in discussing that part and I do think in time he will be a good player. He is inconsistent, but has flashes of brilliance too. Joel would be better served staying one more year so he can get stronger. He has the game that many centers going into the NBA don't, but he is still lean and growing. He has told many people the idea of staying is on his mind so he could develop his game. If he goes I wish him the best and don't blame him because he will be very good down the road, but if he stayed he has the chance to be special. Either way, he has given us some great moments and I know he will keep improving so instead of focusing on what if's, lets enjoy both guys being here this year, hope for the best in the tourney and let the chips fall where they may after that.

Suzi Marshall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

After UF/SDSU/UT it's clear what the Kansas weakness: big, athletic, aggressive teams.
All season long many of us have been citing how soft a team we have.

Soft Defense - Our guards need to think about taking some pride in playing defense. Today, they made Isiah Traylor, ranked over 300 in recruiting, look like a sure lottery pick. Selden played his heart out on O but is as clueless on D as Tharpe and Ellis.

Soft Finishing at the Rim – all season the guys have shown a lack of toughness at the rim by demonstrating various forms of finger rolls. We do pretty well against undersized teams but when going against athletic size, you get ….. 12 blocked shots! I cannot wait until Alexander get to Lawrence. If Ellis doesn’t learn some D and aggressiveness, he is going to find a lot of bench time next year.

Soft going for 50/50 balls – the play that best symbol. I bet there were 20 of them today and Kansas got 3, at most.

Soft communicators – How about an occasional “I got it shout.” When Lucas and Black lost a rebound out of bounds, with nobody else around, there was no communication at all.

Soft on Rebounding, i.e. boxing out – Holland got 11 boards! He went around Tharpe like some kind of “statue of liberty” play had been called.

We have been able to run spectacular O against undersized teams but when challenged this team cowers. We are living on borrowed time unless some defensive ability is found in a hurry.

Kent Richardson 8 months, 2 weeks ago

To cherry pick from what you said.

We are living on borrowed time until we play the next big, aggressive athletic team. We keep hearing we are bothered by ''their" size/length inside, Texas, SDSU, Florida. Lack of interior defense against big teams

When undersized teams have come back against us, Iowa State and Oklahoma State it was with 3's. Lack of perimeter defense.

Borrowed time, borrowed time. Until we meet the next team that can exploit our lack of defensive prowess.

Wiggins has shut down his man many times, Selden has manned up and been agressive and reliable. Embiid has protected the rim and been a force repeatedly. Black has scrummed it up and matched bang for bang. What is missing here?

No consistent lock down on the point, no harassing pick your pocket, pressure, keep you out of your rhythm ability has been evident. Let them penetrate and hope Joel can alter or block happens time after time.

Since this is Kansas basketball and we have been blessed with success. We look at the big picture after each game and think how far will we force our way into the brackets.

We are flawed but getting better so how deep will we be able to go?

Right now, until we meet a team that is long and tough or an undersized great shooting team. And depending on how much we help them.

Or, this was just a freshman hiccup and we will get great defensively.

We we warned that it would be a learning process with many bumps. For sure, for sure, for sure.

Borrowed time. Make the best of it, please.

Suzi Marshall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I completely agree with you regaridnd the D from Wiggins, Embiid, and Black but not Selden. Selden has been spotty, at best. Seden has the quickness and size to be a lock down defender. He's voiced that desire before the season commenced. However, much more often, he's not showed up to play D.

Selden and Greene from the 2 spot, Tharpe from the 1 and Ellis from the 4 were all torched by UT, which has been the pattern all year.

Bryce Landon 8 months, 2 weeks ago

“Cam Ridley and Prince Ebeh were scaring him so he started settling for jump shots,” Holland said of teammates...

That is a very bad sign when your most talented player is playing scared. That's a mental thing.

Robert Brock 8 months, 2 weeks ago

None of this would have happened had Perry Ellis shown up.

Suzi Marshall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I've been waiting for Ellis to show up on the defensive end of the court for almost two seasons now.

Titus Canby 8 months, 2 weeks ago

“Cam Ridley and Prince Ebeh were scaring him so he started settling for jump shots."

Bulletin board material. What do you think Wiggins will do next time we play Texas?

John Randall 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Next time we play Texas, Wiggins will wear #22 and a poker face.

Speculating about what else he'll do will be rampant on all fronts.

Since you ask, I think he'll demonstrate that learning experiences come in more than one flavor.

Mark Lindrud 8 months, 2 weeks ago

You mean he wears another number besides 22?

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