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Monday, September 23, 2013

ESPN: Bill Self top coach for NBA

Kansas guard Ben McLemore smiles next to head coach Bill Self after saying that he will miss Self during a news conference in which McLemore declared his intention to enter the 2013 NBA Draft. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo

Kansas guard Ben McLemore smiles next to head coach Bill Self after saying that he will miss Self during a news conference in which McLemore declared his intention to enter the 2013 NBA Draft. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo

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Kansas University basketball coach Bill Self has been faring awfully well in ESPN.com surveys this past summer into fall.

Self, who in the past several weeks was ranked the No. 2 recruiter of all college coaches (behind John Calipari) and No. 4 X’s and O’s coach (behind Tom Izzo, John Beilein and Rick Pitino), on Monday was named the college coach most qualified to run an NBA franchise successfully.

ESPN’s Jeff Goodman polled 50 NBA coaches and front-office personnel, who ranked Self No. 1 coach with NBA potential, followed by Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski, Iowa State’s Fred Hoiberg, Florida’s Billy Donovan and Michigan State’s Izzo. Others who received votes: former KU player and current Tulsa coach Danny Manning, Pitino (Louisville), Tommy Amaker (Harvard), Tony Bennett (Virginia), Jim Boeheim (Syracuse), Anthony Grant (Alabama) and Greg Lansing (Indiana State).

“(Self) does everything well — player relations, game plan, booster/press/corporate and has a big-time presence,” one NBA source told Goodman. “I also think he is smart enough to know that he can’t be as hard on guys as he is in practice in the NBA.”

“He has a great demeanor, holds the kids accountable, it’s not all about him — like a lot of college guys,” another source told Goodman.

A third source said: “He’s an outstanding teacher, but not too much of a dictator that would turn guys off. He is strong enough and has the right kind of personality to get guys to buy in. He’s coached a ton of NBA picks and has played pick and roll in his system.”

Of Self, Goodman wrote: “At one point not too long ago, the 50-year-old was considered primarily a recruiter. However, that changed a couple of seasons ago when he took the Jayhawks to the national title game with a relatively ho-hum roster. Self has led KU to nine straight Big 12 titles and won a national title in 2008.”

Self has never discounted a move to the NBA, however has also said, “I don’t know what job would be better than the one I have right now.”

He garnered headlines last summer when he told the Oklahoman at his induction ceremony for the Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame: “It (NBA) hasn’t really tempted me because I haven’t had that many people talk to me about it. But at some point and time, sure, I think it would (tempt me). It would be great to be able to match wits with the best athletes in the world, but I’m certainly happy where I’m at.”

Later he clarified, “Nobody has flirted with me. It’s not like I’m on everybody’s wish list or anything like that. I really don’t know what it would take. But it would have to be awfully good though. Even a so-called better job — I don’t know what job would be better than the one I have right now.”

Goodman’s survey story is available at http://es.pn/1gToIYy

Alexander lists top six: Cliff Alexander, a 6-8 senior forward from Chicago Curie High who is ranked No. 4 in the recruiting Class of 2014 by Rivals.com, on Monday tweeted his top six schools.

“NO ORDER ... Michigan State, Illinois, Memphis, DePaul, Kansas, Arizona,” Alexander wrote.

On Sunday, he told ESPN Chicago that he also was considering Baylor, Indiana and Louisville. Alexander, who has visited Arizona and DePaul, will visit KU for the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog, Memphis on Oct. 18 and Illinois on Oct. 26. He told ESPN he expects to commit to a college in December and sign a letter-of-intent in April.

Alexander will compete in the FIBA Under 18 3 x 3 world championships Thursday through Sunday in Jakarta, Indonesia.

Comments

Mark Lindrud 10 months ago

Much ado about nothing. Another example of the respect for Self.

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okiedave 10 months ago

NEWSFLASH: 90% OF ALL NBA COACHES ARE IN FAVOR OF BILL SELF MOVING TO THE NBA. THEY WANT HIS JOB AS HEAD COACH AT KU.

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BringBackMark 10 months ago

Notice Calipari isn't on the list. After his stint in the NBA he realized it was a lot easier to buy players at the college level than draft them in the NBA.....

Whether Bill is here for one more year or twenty, he's done nothing but add to the class of Kansas Basketball. Let's just hope that if Zenger is ever faced with filling another coaching position in a major sport that he does a better job on is second attempt!

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Gavin Fritton 10 months ago

Again? I'm sofa king tired of this.

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Dillon Davis 10 months ago

If Bill ever leaves, and it likely wouldn't be soon, it would almost certainly be for the NBA and maybe more particularly, San Antonio (Buford works for them) or OKC Thunder. I doubt he would take another college head coaching position unless he pulls a Roy on us and just absolutely can't say no to Oklahoma State if they come knocking again later down the road. Even then, I still feel like it's a stretch.

From the outside looking in it's easy for us to say what can't he do with the money he's making now compared to what he would be making in the NBA? But then maybe again it's more than that. If Bill wins another ship maybe he just wants to prove it to himself and to others that he can perform on any level. We'll see, but I wouldn't bet on him leaving within the next 5 years.

Also, if Self is voted as the most qualified college coach to run an NBA Franchise by 50 NBA Coaches and Personnel, why is that he has yet to receive an offer to coach Team USA???

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Mike Bratisax 10 months ago

Exactly right. I could see the Thunder and maybe a top NBA team but not at a different team on the college level and no chance at OSU.

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Ben Kliewer 10 months ago

Very provocative point on the Team USA thing...

Regarding Self-To-OSU: Though the trouble that OSU has in its football program right now doesn't necessarily translate to hoops, you can bet that school isn't going to be in the running for big time coaches for a while. On top of that, Roy moved halfway across the country to go back to a program he had very, very strong ties to. Bill's connection to OSU is fairly less than Roy's connection to UNC, and moving to a different school in the same conference seems like it would be a very strange move. Regardless of how much money TBP could throw at Bill, I just don't think being the Cowboys' head coach would be anywhere near tempting enough to leave KU.

But I would agree with dmoneyball. If Bill goes to the NBA, it likely won't be within the next five years. Sure, it's a scary thought for us as fans, but who are we to say he can't or shouldn't? Bill's a great enough coach that he deserves that shot at being an NBA coach if he wants to do it. But it would take a lot to pull him away from a great place like KU :)

In that case, it's not like we'd pull in some jackass who'd never heard of basketball. We have a tendency of getting some decent coaches in Lawrence. (Naismith, Allen, Harp, Owens, Brown, Williams and Self... ok, Naismith ended his career under .500, but he invented the damn game)

This was a long and rambling post.

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Annette Lee 10 months ago

What if this is just a smoke screen designed to scare some of the recruits. I can just hear some of the other coaches."you know it's just a matter of time before he jumps to the NBA " " Come to our program our Coach will be here for another ten years" Yeah right just like Brad Stevens..

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Joe Joseph 10 months ago

Bill Self would leave for the NBA before OSU, but I'm sure everyone has envisioned the scenario where he goes to the L for a couple seaons, struggles to win, then returns to college ball. That would be the only way I see him ending up at OSU.

The only redeeming thing about the potential of Self leaving is that KU will practically get to cherry pick it's next coach. Though the only "trade" I would even sort of be happy with (as of now) would be Brad Stevens.

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jaymar74 10 months ago

Self would never go to his alma mater and play Kansas 2 or 3 times every year.

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actorman 10 months ago

Now that's what I call a well-reasoned response.

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Neom 10 months ago

If Self is smart enough and I believe he is, he has the job that he can retire on and be a legend while not hurting a dime on income comparing to NBA, why take a risk and bolt? For the ego? We all know he is egoless. He will almost certainly have a chance to coach team USA some day, to see how it feels dealing with the pros, if that's what he is itchy about, much the way coach K did.

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BrianCh 10 months ago

It isn't necessarily about ego; it's often just the need for pursuing new challenges. The idea of coaching some of the best players in the world can be intoxicating and fascinating. And you don't have to recruit. He's also young enough to spend several years in the NBA, and still have a number of years left afterward to coach in college again.

Just saying. Only Bill Self knows if he's even remotely interested.

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ParisHawk 10 months ago

On a positive note, if Self is painted as an "NBA-compatible" coach, that can't hurt with recruits. I'm not saying it's a big deal, it isn't; but it does keep up the positive buzz around the program since Wiggins committed.

When was the last time we had so much mindshare (or mouthshare) in the media?

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akgjenkintown 10 months ago

More ammunition for people recruiting the same player as Self. These types of stories by ESPN are worthless and can raise doubt in the minds of potential recruits who do chose a school based on the coach.

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texashawk10 10 months ago

Bashing another program isn't the way to recruit most of the top prospects (the kind Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, UNC recruit) because they don't want to hear why they shouldn't attend another school, they want to hear what the coach and school recruiting them can do to further their career and make them a better player.

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clevelandjayhawker 10 months ago

Can we redshirt Tyler like 8 years?

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FearlessJayhawk 10 months ago

I believe coach Self knows a good deal when he sees one. He cannot beat the situation he has with KU. It's a great environment to live and coach. At this stage in his life I don't believe he would relish living in the asphalt jungles somewhere. When you compute the cost of living in one those dumps and the milling mob of humanity he would have to deal with every day, living in good ole Lawrence looks awfully good. He can enjoy all the good things life has to offer without subjecting himself to all the headaches and problems everyone of those franchises would bring.

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jayhawkhoops 10 months ago

So a potential Jayhawk basketball recruit or their parent pulls up yet another story about Self and the NBA. Who cares about a stupid ESPN survey.? Why does Gary Bedore think that an ESPN survey is worthy of a story? Does Bedore realize that he is not helping Kansas basketball by writing worthless stories about Self and his possible leap to the NBA?

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Andrew Horigan 10 months ago

It's not Gary's job to write stories to help Kansas. It's his job to write stories about Kansas. And I'd bet this story catches a lot of attention and people will read it, like you and me.

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oldalum 10 months ago

Or maybe a kid thinks: Wow. He's good enough to coach in the NBA. I want to go to Kansas and be coached by him.

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ParisHawk 10 months ago

That's what I was getting at. The question of Self "jumping" during the recruit's time here is more relevant to the 3-5 year guys. Wiggins and Selden don't care where Self will coach in two years.

If anyone should worry about Self moving on, it would be a potential redshirt. Agree to sit, then watch your coach leave and not be able to transfer without losing a year of eligibility - not fun.

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REHawk 10 months ago

At this stage, I don't see such attention placing a dent into Bill Self's college recruiting. Rather, the opposite. However, if or when Greg Popovich announces imminent retirement, the speculation about Self's departure from KU could affect recruiting...at least until that job opening is resolved. At this moment, Goodman's poll reflects glowingly upon the man at the helm of the Jayhawk hoops program, and upon the program itself. Fans must milk the very best from our current coaching situation while the prominence endures.

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Bradly Moore 10 months ago

Type A guys like Self are motivated to be the best. They want to play the best, and coach the best. I think he will give the NBA a try soon, probably after his son graduates. I just feel sorry for the guy who has to follow Coach Self.

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Jeffery Barrett 10 months ago

That's what most everyone said when Roy left.

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Ron Franklin 10 months ago

I'm starting to get the sense that ESPN is propagating distractions for this program.

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Ted Hume 10 months ago

Nothing like taking a few days away from class in HIGH SCHOOL and jetting off to Indonesia to play ball. How crazy must that feel for a 17 year old? A quick perusal of Cliff's list reveals that he has really cut it to 4: MSU, Illinois, KU, and AU (does he think anyone thinks he might really go to DePaul?) I guess showing the hometown school some love is a classy thing to do, respect-wise, and maybe it speaks to his maturity; I'm sure they've spent a huge amount of time on him and I respect that...

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jayhawkinATL 10 months ago

Maybe better to spin it like, "Hey, kid...don't you want to be coached by a guy so well-respected by the NBA???"

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KANSTUCKY 10 months ago

Why would a guy give up the opportunity to be the greatest coach ever at the greatest school ever and leave a legacy that would be nearly impossible to repeat? You will never beat the game day atmosphere at AFH. Bar none, the beat place in the country to coach. When that changes, he will look elsewhere. I bet he is still re-seeding his lawn for next year... RCJH

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Steve Gantz 10 months ago

I really doubt he'll ever be the greatest coach ever. Top 5 yes, maybe 2nd, but John Wooden takes the top billing.

Greatest school ever? (maybe you mean for hoops) We love our alma mater. But still, really?

There's other game day atmosphere's that match ours I'd say.

I did like your reseeding the lawn line however!

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Ryan Houston 10 months ago

Bill Self would never leave Kansas. He has it made in Lawrence. First of all there are not many pro team that are worth leaving Kansas for. The only teams that are worthy are teams that have legendary ballers. Another thing is you need a franchise team, for instance the Lakers, Celtics. Secondly He has it easy at Kansas. Compared to other top notch schools like Duke, UCLA, and Kentucky. The Kansas Job is a pretty cush one. Plus he could easily win another championship at Kansas. Finally The NBA is not what is cut out to be. Players have ego problems, and will not buy in right away. If you get stuck on a bad team it could mean the end of you coaching career. It would just make much more sense for Bill Self to continue coaching at Kansas for years to come

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John Randall 10 months ago

With the respect this article refers to, and his own comments, there is simply no way Bill Self would 'stick' himself with a bad team just to be in the NBA. Get real.

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Ryan Houston 10 months ago

Maybe I wast clear enough. What I meant was Self wouldn't leave, unless it was to go to a program with a name such as the Lakers, or the Celtics. Or the team that had star players okc, spurs.

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Joseph Bullock 10 months ago

First of all, if Coach Self had wanted to go back to OSU and Coach there, he would have done so. Like he has said, there is no better place to recruit to, than the University of Kansas! Did you all read the story of how he got a job under Larry Brown? He loves K.U. As far as the article about being named the top College Coach on the list of NBA people, that only helps Kansas Recruiting. When kids and parents read that a Coach is so well valued by the NBA Executives, anyone would want the kid to play for that guy, and the kids are smart enough to know he can get them to the NBA. Many coaches do use things against other coaches (like what just happened at one of the Texas Schools, but the kid did not fall for it (they used a Coaches illness, against him-what worthless non-human beings, right)! So accept and enjoy all the accolades Coach Self gets. He deserves them. PS: Coach Self probably would have taken over for Coach K, had he decided to step down from the U.S.A. Team he is Coaching, but he knows it is a great advantage in Recruiting. But Coach Self is next in line, and only getting stronger! Rock Chalk, Baby!

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ParisHawk 10 months ago

Do you think he is? Many would say Calipari, K or others.

The most prominent ex-Big 12 NBA guys are from other schools.

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wrwlumpy 10 months ago

Have the tents started going up in front of AFH for Late Night yet. I won't be driving up from KC 3 hours early like I did last year to be turned away. At least someone got my canned goods.

GET THE PARTY STARTED!!!

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clevelandjayhawker 10 months ago

I get goose bumps just thinking about what that place is going to be like on Oct 4th.

The question is how can a recruit want to go anywhere else after experiencing a Late Night in the Phog?

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Steve Gantz 10 months ago

Self is going to leave sometime, whether it's retirement, another college gig, or a pro job. The best scenario is he retires around 15-20 years ago, has a replacement groomed and ready.

The 2nd best scenario is he goes to the pros after grooming a replacement and after he's led us to a few more banners. Then after he's in the league he wins it all and KU a second coach can say he won a college and pro championship. Of course then KU can lay claim to not one, but 2 coaches who have that impressive distinction, while no one else has done it.

There are no other good scenarios.

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Tony Bandle 10 months ago

NOT SO RANDOM THOUGHTS.

1] Coach Self will be at Kansas for at least the next 5 years, if nothing else, to see Tyler graduate and to groom a successor..and I'll take the over at 10 years.

2] CS has earned the right to make whatever decision is best for him and we all owe it to him to support that decision...no matter how much it may hurt!!

3] Kansas will be fine..Phog left....Ted Owens left....Larry Brown left.....Roy Williams left....and someday Bill will leave.

4] Name one up and coming basketball coach that would say no to the Kansas job..I can't think of any.

5] The NBA is a grind, constant travel, back to back games in different cities, million dollar players with billion dollar egos...Bill will take a good hard look at that lifestylew before he decides to make that switch.

6] Bill is a Big Eight guy and loves the legacy of Kansas even more than we may realize. If any idiot decides to replace Allen Fieldhouse with some billion dollar bball palace, Bill Self will be the first guy on the bus heading out of Lawrence forever. [And if I lived in Lawrence, I'd be the second!!]

7] I feel this article will do just opposite of what many of you fear....the recruits will be drawn to our program even more by another connection [Bill's Coaching] to the "L".

8] Relax and enjoy what may be one of the most exciting seasons ever with the Hawks...and always be proud that, no matter what, we are all Jayhawks, and NO ONE can ever take that away from us!!!!!!!

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Ryan Houston 10 months ago

If CS left the next coach would have some big shoes to fill. I believe there are several candidates that could feel said shoes. Shaka Smart, and Greg Marshall have both made it to the final four at the mid major level. If they we are at a recruiting haven like Kansas, who knows how many multiple championship they might win. CS is getting older everyday so replacing him is inevitable unless he finds the fountain of youth. And in 10 years who knows there could be new up in coming coaches that could fill in quite well. The main thing is if CS heart is not in for coaching at Kansas any longer, maybe it would be best if he departed. So long story short if he leaves he is not irreplaceable, but that should not knock what an excellent coaching job he has done at Kansas.

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WigglyJayhawk 10 months ago

Geeez louis this board is neg. today. ESPN pays Self a compliment and everyone assumes hes leaving soon or ESPN has it out for KU. Common folks, theres nothing else to talk about and they gotta pay the bills somehow. Simmer down.

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jaybate 10 months ago

jaybate: ESPN top network for psy-ops style reporting on KU

ESPN is getting ridiculous. Here is how they would report Self stopping and giving emergency medical care to a victim of a car accident.

ESPN: Self best Good Samaritan for NBA

I am embarrassed for them. It is like they are begging, "pleeeeease, don't anymore OADs go to KU or our keepers are going to cut off our access."

ESPN still appears to be carrying water for those that did not want Andrew Wiggins to sign with KU and are afraid more are going to.

Add Jeff Goodman to the list of ESPN "contibutors" that appear to have to honor some IOUs. :-)

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Ron Franklin 10 months ago

You, you's and me's is on la misma pagina.

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wrwlumpy 10 months ago

While we continue towards tip-off I thought this photo of Richard Pryor in Africa was inspirational.

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jaybate 10 months ago

wrw,

I have no inside scoop on Richard Pryor, but I do recall that Richard (who that has seen him perform can call him Pryor?), born in 1940, grew up in Peoria, Illinois.

I can hazard only four wild-assed guesses, as to why he was wearing that Kansas t-shirt, and I have no idea if any of them would be on the mark.

  1. It could be just a shirt he once picked up, while doing a concert in Lawrence not long before his Africa trip, and just kept wearing it, the way guys do.

  2. Richard was in the US Army from 1958-1960 and spent most of that two years reputedly locked up in a military prison for being convicted of being a part of a group of African American soldiers that beat up and stabbed a Caucasian American soldier; that means Richard might have served his prison time at the military portion of Leavenworth Penitentiary--the Little Top, some call it. I kind of doubt it, but it seems at least a possibility. It could be that he wore that T-shirt symbolically to mock his prison time there.

  3. Ted Owens and Sam Miranda, especially Sam, was reknowned for recruiting a lot of basketball players from down state Illinois and some from Richard's home town of Peoria, if I recall correctly. Richard once did a lot of humor about growing up in Peoria and being raised in a whore house that was run by his grandmother, and that employed his mother, as a prostitute. Perhaps Richard kept in touch with Peoria and knew that KU recruited Peoria guys and so decided to be a KU fan. I doubt he clocked a lot of hours at Bradley given that he was kicked out of school at 14.

  4. Richard woke up after abusing a substance, walked outside into a street in Africa, saw a t-shirt left there by a Peace Corp volunteer from KU, and put it on.

If anybody really knows why Richard Pryor was wearing a Kansas shirt in Africa on the trip that Richard reputedly said he had an epiphany on--an epiphany that he had to get out of main stream show biz and move to Berkeley and hang with the counterculture and the soon to be murdered, or imprisoned, Black Panthers, fill us in.

One other thing: I would like to know which military prison Richard Pryor was locked up in. I did a quick net surf and found no mention of it. Hmmmmmm.

He was very funny.

My favorite quote of Richard's, if he wasn't joking, was:

"I'm for human lib, the liberation of all people, not just black people or female people or gay people."

--Richard Pryor

(Note: I made the wild speculations in hopes of drawing someone out and filling us in. I have no reason to think any of my speculations are true.)

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KansasComet 10 months ago

Great photo, thanks for sharing

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Denver Vold 10 months ago

I wonder if top recruits benefit from going to Kentucky? It would be interesting to a 72 year old technology challenged Jay hawk to find out how U K recruits were rated before their college season and how they were drafted. For example, If Andrew Wiggins is the second draft choice next year, that would be a disappointment.

How many disappointments have there been on the Kentucky roster in recent years judged by that criteria? How would K U rate on the disappointment scale? Recruits might be interested.

Just wondering.

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jgkojak 10 months ago

Self has said in several interviews that he's not one of those guys who will be coaching at 70 - he intends to retire so he can enjoy life -

I could see him getting to year 15 -- Tyler will have come completely through the program by then - he matched Roy's Year total - beats his win total - there's really no one else to beat other than Owens year total and Allen's win total - which probably isn't within reach.

So I could see at that point he'd test things out in OKC or SAntonio for 4-5 years.

That would also be perfect timing to bring Danny back as HC, assuming all goes well in Tulsa.

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jhox 10 months ago

Staying long enough to get his name on the next arena would be a nice goal for him. As much as we hate to admit it, at some point we're probably going to have to replace AFH. Hopefully a long time down the road though.

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texashawk10 10 months ago

Not exactly, Tyshawn plays for the Nets.

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Woody Cragg 10 months ago

I agree with Blown, jb, & others that espn is smoke screening our school. Also Oak's point #5 is quite valid, IMO dead on the mark. Why would he want to turnaround every other friggin night & wake up seeing the same spoiled a$$ billionaire brats in a different city the next day. When you get so much money, is there really that much of a drive for more? Don't know how often you guys travel anymore, but it damn sure ain't what it used to be. Frankly, it's a major pain in the butt. Only thing that slayer brings up is that of a challenge-or as he calls it, a chip. When there is no challenge, the motivation & drive waver, & when that happens, even a personality can sometimes undergo a major change. If he loses the "chip" he may move onward. Maybe not as a pro coach, but maybe less work instead of more, like a color guy on tv.At his age, he's still got a fire, but 10 years from now, he probably be a granddad, & all that travel may nix the L for good. If he makes the jump, IMO it'll be sooner rather than later. Like someone else mentioned afore, maybe when Tyler graduates. JMO but I think he's a lock till then.

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jaybate 10 months ago

"Some Proposed Undermining Headlines Given Gratis to ESPN"

~ESPN: Self Assists Foundation Will Play Well in the NBA

~ESPN: Self's 84% winning percentage best among active coaches last ten years, but since he can't top it he will leave for the NBA

~ESPN: Self's conference title string best since Wooden, so he has nothing left to prove and will go to the NBA

~ESPN: Self voted handsomest coach in D1--NBA wants him for his handsomeness

~ESPN: Self speaks Okie, and NBA is adopting Okie as the L's first language, so Self will go to the show soon

(Note: all fiction, no malice.)

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Michael Luby 10 months ago

Here I go again, about to post something that will surely get me fire bombed. BUT, Im disagreeing with ESPN's analysis that C.S. is the best NBA ready coach in Div 1. I dont think he is, I think its Coach K. I really do. Simply because he has coached NBA All Star talents for Team USA, three times. I know, I know, Duke is the enemy and is to be hated. But, Coach K is clearly a great coach and I have respect for that. So I'll say that Coach Self gets #2 on my list. But, its like with Wiggins who hasnt made a basket in Div 1 ball yet. We cant say for sure he will be great until it happens.

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jaybate 10 months ago

I agree.

But Consonants seems a little old to take the jump right now. Also Consonants has turned down a lot of chances to coach in the NBA.

Self is second.

But I find imagining Self in the L about as difficult as imagining Knute Rockne coaching the Chicago Bears. Of course both me could have done it, but there is something to be said for playing a role you are ideally suited for.

The only reason Self should go to the L is if he is bored with the routine, or tired of recruiting.

Well, there is a third reason: the money. He's fixed now. But if he really wants to make his children a fixed part of the upper class, he needs to bank about 40 Million more in 5-10 years. At that point, his kids can go surf for the rest of their lives.

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4all_timewins 10 months ago

Who could argue that Coach Self wouldn't mind the challenge that presents itself AT KANSAS for at least another four or five years: (1) He could equal or surpass Coach Wooden in the number of consecutive NCAA Division I league championships--four more Big 12 Championships would make 13 to tie; five more would break the record; (2) With an active streak of 24, he could lead KANSAS to the most Consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances in NCAA history in just four years, passing Arizona (25) and North Carolina (27) both whose streaks have already ended; and (3) [and this is the biggest cherry] Move Kansas into the top spot in all-time NCAA wins over Kentucky! (Kentucky stands at 2111 wins, Kansas in 2nd place with 2101 - only 10 wins back! This goal is reasonable by gaining 2-3 wins per year over the next 4 or 5 years!)

Someone earlier talked about coaches needing challenges, right? I can't see him leaving with those high marks in plain sight! Oh, yeah, and who wants to quit at one National Championship?!

Here's an interesting factoid from another coaching legend, "the Wizard of Westwood": According to his own writings, Coach John Wooden turned down an offer to coach the Los Angeles Lakers from owner Jack Kent Cooke that may have been ten times what UCLA was paying him. Sure, it was a different day, and money wasn't the driving force it is today in college and professional coaching. Why will HCBS possibly say "no" to insane pay raises to coach at the NBA level? It could be the personal satisfaction of taking Kansas to three pinnacles of greatness! The most championships, the most consecutive appearances in NCAA history, and the most victories in NCAA Division I history!

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4all_timewins 10 months ago

Who could argue that Coach Self wouldn't mind the challenge that presents itself AT KANSAS for at least another four or five years: (1) He could equal or surpass Coach Wooden in the number of consecutive NCAA Division I league championships--four more Big 12 Championships would make 13 to tie; five more would break the record; (2) With an active streak of 24, he could lead KANSAS to the most Consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances in NCAA history in just four years, passing Arizona (25) and North Carolina (27) both whose streaks have already ended; and (3) [and this is the biggest cherry] Move Kansas into the top spot in all-time NCAA wins over Kentucky! (Kentucky stands at 2111 wins, Kansas in 2nd place with 2101 - only 10 wins back! This goal is reasonable by gaining 2-3 wins per year over the next 4 or 5 years!)

Someone earlier talked about coaches needing challenges, right? I can't see him leaving with those high marks in plain sight!

Here's an interesting factoid from another coaching legend, "the Wizard of Westwood": According to his own writings, Coach John Wooden turned down an offer to coach the Los Angeles Lakers from owner Jack Kent Cooke that may have been ten times what UCLA was paying him. Sure, it was a different day, and money wasn't the driving force it is today in college and professional coaching. Why will HCBS possibly say "no" to insane pay raises to coach at the NBA level? It could be the personal satisfaction of taking Kansas to three pinnacles of greatness! The most championships, the most consecutive appearances in NCAA history, and the most victories in NCAA Division I history! Oh, yeah, and who wants to quit at one National Championship?!

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brooksmd 10 months ago

An NBA hc is not a coach. He's a babysitter. To this day I don't understand why a great college hc would even consider an NBA hc position. Is a little more money worth the emotional/physical drain of the long NBA season? Unless of course he doesn't like being at home.

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daddax98 10 months ago

self goes to san antonio when Popovich (65 in January) retires, Shaka Smart (turns down jobs every year including UCLA last year and is only 36) is hired and the party keeps rockin' and chalkin'. I would have included Brad Stevens but he took the Boston job

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UPNYA 10 months ago

Lets just enjoy coach Self while we still have him. He to will leave sometime in the future. Lets just hope we don't send him on his way out like we did ol Roy...

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