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Rice defeats Kansas, 23-14

  • 6:30 p.m., Sept. 14, 2013
  • Houston, Texas,

Saturday, September 14, 2013

Lone-star letdown: Offense disappoints in KU’s 23-14 loss to Rice

Kansas running back Tony Pierson (3) stews on the bench with some of the other running backs and receivers after a deep pass to him was ruled incomplete late in the fourth quarter against Rice on Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013 at Rice Stadium in Houston, Texas.

Kansas running back Tony Pierson (3) stews on the bench with some of the other running backs and receivers after a deep pass to him was ruled incomplete late in the fourth quarter against Rice on Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013 at Rice Stadium in Houston, Texas.

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Kansas coach Charlie Weis talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 23-14 loss to Rice on Sept. 14, 2013.

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KU-Rice

— If football were not a team game, the Kansas University defense would have thrown a party following Saturday's game at Rice Stadium and the offense would have flown home in silence.

Unfortunately for the Jayhawks, who fell to 1-1 on the season and saw their road losing streak balloon to 23 consecutive setbacks, football is a team game and a great night for the KU defense went down as a wasted effort in a 23-14 loss to Rice.

Series after series, quarter after quarter, the KU defense gave up just one touchdown and three field goals to the high-powered Rice offense that has averaged 30-plus points per game for the past couple of seasons. But KU's offense gifted the Owls seven points on an interception return for a touchdown by Michael Kutzler and, perhaps worse than that, could never get in a rhythm to make what the defense did count.

“You hold 'em to 16 points, that should be good enough to win,” KU coach Charlie Weis said outside the Kansas locker room after the loss.

It wasn't. And, although the Jayhawks stuck together and pinned this loss on the entire team, the offensive players seemed a lot more apologetic about struggling to score 14 points and gain 270 yards in their second straight loss to Rice in front of 22,974 fans, many of them wearing crimson and blue.

“Oh yeah, it hurts,” said KU senior James Sims, whose 109 yards on 19 carries moved him into fifth on KU's all-time rushing list and represented his 12th career 100-yard night. “The defense did a great job out there. They got stop after stop and we gotta capitalize on that.”

Added quarterback Jake Heaps, who threw two interceptions and completed less than 50 percent of his passes, a stat that was more on his receivers and their rendezvous with the dropsies than his inaccuracy: “Our defense did a great job and they put us in position to win the game. Offensively, we just couldn't get going.”

Despite being out-performed in most statistical areas, the Jayhawks trailed just 10-7 late in the first half — Heaps hit Tony Pierson for a 77-yard TD early in the second quarter — and had the ball near midfield with a chance to tie or take the lead heading into halftime. But on the first play of that drive, Heaps' deep ball toward Justin McCay was intercepted by Bryce Callahan and, two minutes later, Chris Boswell's 28-yard field goal put points on the Owls' side of the scoreboard instead.

“Yeah, that was big,” Weis said. “But it wasn't nearly as big as the one that went to the house early in the game.”

Added Heaps: “We were trying to take a shot and it didn't go the way we were hoping. In fact, it was the exact opposite. Big things like that are the things that lead to losses and we gotta make sure those things don't happen.”

After the two offenses traded missed opportunities throughout the third quarter, KU took its first lead of the game on a one-yard TD plunge by Heaps. KU's second touchdown of the night was set up by two fantastic individual efforts, the first an interception from junior safety Isaiah Johnson that gave KU first and 10 at the Rice 16 and the second a third-down pitch-and-catch from Heaps to sophomore Tre' Parmalee that reached put the Jayhawks inside the 1.

Another KU interception — this one by Dexter McDonald as Rice was threatening — gave KU possession at its own 6-yard line with the lead.

“We really thought we were gonna take it from there,” Heaps said. “And we just couldn't. They won the field-position battle all night.”

After recording one first down, KU punted and the boot from Trevor Pardula was partially blocked. Weis argued that Rice should have been whistled for a penalty on the partial block, but the officials disagreed. Six plays later, Boswell, the same kicker who hit a game-winner as time expired last year in Lawrence, drilled a 56-yarder to give Rice the lead back.

“I felt the guy went over the shield, which would be a penalty (and an automatic first down),” Weis said. “They said he went through the shield. He has a much better view of it than I did.”

Despite falling behind once again, KU remained alive until Rice tailback Charles Ross (27 carries, 157 yards) scored from eight yards out with 3:28 to play to set the final margin.

“Really, the bottom line is you have to tie together consecutive plays and, on third down, when the quarterback hits you in the chest, you need to catch the ball,” said Weis, lamenting KU's dropped passes. “You know that, I know that and the players know that, too.”

In the minds of the Jayhawks, the trip back to Lawrence was supposed to be filled with smiles and sighs of relief after moving to 2-0 and getting the burden of that road losing streak off of their backs. Instead, it was a trip that began with KU trying to explain what went wrong and why this year would be different than all of the others that began in similar fashion.

“It's over with,” Sims said. “It's behind us. We gotta move on and worry about Louisiana Tech. We're gonna bounce back from this. This is just a bump in the road.”

Added Heeney, who led KU's defense with a career-high 15 tackles: “It's disappointing, but we're gonna regroup and get ready for next Saturday. It's not gonna spiral. We're gonna be ready next week.”

Comments

jayhawkrider 7 months, 1 week ago

I'm married to a Texas Tech Red Raider, and we're all coming home for the game in 2 weeks hoping to see a good game. I think I'm really coming home now just to see the leaves change color and have a cold beer at The Wheel. After Saturday, I pray the Hawks don't let the game get away from us like my last road trip to watch KU in Waco with RG III in command (we left in the 3rd quarter it was so bad). Perhaps I can still hold out hope for us to beat UT in Mack Brown's last season and actually be part of the Monday morning football smackdown rather than being the butt of the jokes and defending against the typical Texan dismissal of KU football season and performance.

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Thomas John 7 months, 1 week ago

C'mon everyone. This is KU football, remember? I was reminded on facebook by numerous friends and family members that the words Kansas and football should NEVER be used in the same sentence. While I don't appreciate the humor in that statement, maybe there is possibly some truth in the underlying message.

I'm going to be moving to Lubbock, TX in the next six months and I've noticed that with a new coach at Texas Tech, and even though they've played three games already this season, the Red Raiders have 3 victories. I watched their game on ESPN and I don't think that team has any more or less talent overall than our hapless group. So what is the real problem in Lawrence?

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Robin Smith 7 months, 1 week ago

I'd say things are going about as well as should have been expected.

Emphasis on "should".

Fans need to chill out and be supportive and realize that KU will never be good if the fans can't be patient and the AD changes the coach every 2-4 years.

Some of you are reminding me of ND fans. Shameful, really.

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Waylon Cook 7 months, 1 week ago

So amazing that Zenger could have had a statue had he made a solid hire(Fedora, hell Malzahn but he might have left for Auburn, or a solid assistant or just a quality hire). Instead we got recycled Charlie Weis. He CAN'T coach why is it that hard to see?

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Waylon Cook 7 months, 1 week ago

So amazing that Zenger could have had a statue had he made a solid hire(Fedora, hell Malzahn but he might have left for Auburn, or a solid assistant or just a quality hire). Instead we got recycled Charlie Weis. He CAN'T coach why is it that hard to see?

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Bewareofthephog Fifety-Five 7 months, 1 week ago

Our offense has the potential to be very efficient if we just use our runningbacks correctly. Against Rice we just handed it to Sims or Miller and expected them to do it all, we never seemed to run any plays for them.

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OklahomaSooners 7 months, 1 week ago

A lot of us are laughin pretty hard down here. Don't get me wrong our feelings go out to ya. Eleven carries for your QB and how many for your running backs? LMAOROFL! Has your coach ever heard of a sweep? LOAO!

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Jackster 7 months, 1 week ago

Hire Bobby Petrino....give him a Harley and a hotty and we will go bowling!! That guy can coach!

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OKHawkFan 7 months, 1 week ago

Why are we so upset at the LJW??? We were 1-11 last year. Did you want them to write stories constantly about how this team/players were going to struggle and drop passes/throw incomplete passes? I always take those preseason articles with a grain of salt. Our defense after 2 games does appear to be improved.(even without the hype that Combs was supposed to bring). Offense hasn't performed as expected after two games. However, just like last year CW started to abandon the pass plays when it became apparent that it wasn't working. I love the criticism after the fact that a play didn't work. Especially from those people who state "CW should have called this play" How do you know that play would've worked? Rice did a pretty good job at stopping the run too. Even if CW ran only run plays and we lost the same posters would've stated CW play calling was too predictable and he should've passed it every now and then (I was at the OU vs KU game last year and two phrases I heard from all the fans was you should've never fired Mangino & why does CW only run the ball) I know that it is extremely frustrating being in the game only to blow it in the 4th quarter. However, why are we so quick to get rid of CW? I for one am all for giving him at least 1 more year after this one based on the small amount of progress that we are making. We are going to struggle offensively this year it appears (Unless this game was just a fluke offensively). Let's deal with the fact that these are the players/coaches we have and stand behind them 100%!! Now next year if we struggle offensively again and can't complete passes then I'm all for getting rid of CW.

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Micky Baker 7 months, 1 week ago

There are a lot of comments about Heaps and such being bad, and yes the receivers are missing the ball on catches that high school kids could make. There is also another problem, and that is the play calling. It was bad last year too and this on the coach. Weis needs to swallow his pride and hire an OC.

The negativity isn't beneficial to the program. If you're not the guys on the field you shouldn't be putting negativity out there because you can bet the players read these posts.

What has to happen is either Charlie has to call plays that put our players in a position to succeed or have someone else call plays who will. This isn't about being cute. You don't have to be cute if the opposing team is going to stack the box. Call screen plays. Attention Weis, in the NFL they use screen plays often. If they stack the box and our OL pull those guys on the defense away from the side of the screen pass are going to be tacklers without anyone to tackle. Call better plays. Game day isn't the time to practice plays. WIN GAMES. It's a two way road Weis.

If we only win one game this season, then we can't fire Weis and hire another guy because nobody will want to come. This means Zenger is going to have to get up in Weis's grill and make it clear to Charlie that if there aren't at least 4 wins this year, then Weis has to hire an OC for next season. The same offense can stay in place, but he's going to have either start calling plays that we can win with or he's going to have to hire an OC. Zenger, the ball is in your court right now. If the 2014 season closes with just 4 wins, then Zenger, you're going to go have to find another head coach who will exercise a little humility.

You have to tell Heaps, don't throw it deep if it isn't there in a close game. You have to tell the receivers, give their utmost effort to catch the ball or make a play on the ball if a defender is in position. There is no room for being a nice guy.

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BayPark 7 months, 1 week ago

Can we finally temper the expectations of this team? I don't mean negative expectations, but a realistic look at where we are. The kool-aide drinkers darn near took over the site in the days leading up to the Rice game and were quick to criticize (ironically) those who felt that this team still had a ways to go. The talk of how amazing our receivers were going to be or how the newcomers were going to lead us to an eight-win season was ridiculous then. Now it's absurd. I'm disappointed, sure. I expected a closer game, but this is who we are. You can love your school and support your team through thick and thin, AND be a realist.

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Jim Jackson 7 months, 1 week ago

People keep talking about us running the ball-- We did run the ball, non-stop and that was the issue; Rice stacked the box on 1st and 2nd down and consistently tackled us for loss.

Charlie should've used play action but did not do so the ENTIRE second half (did he first half?)

We need an offensive play-caller up in the box ASAP. We should have won that game. Great job by the defense; Rice put up a lot of points against A&M but did not do so against us.

Would like to see more Charles Brooks as Mundine is clearly inept.

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Triceec 7 months, 1 week ago

Y'all are crazy, I wanna see all of u get out there and be the team. And as for ur wife u tell her to get out there. Give them boys a chance. If u don't like it, stop watching it. Y'all are so depressing its pathetic.😡

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Rivethead 7 months, 1 week ago

WR can't drop balls.....if we call a running play. Just saying.

Also:

Jake Heaps: 11 carries

Bourbon, Cox, Pierson, Miller: combined 4 carries.

Yikes.

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Robert Brown 7 months, 1 week ago

It could be worse. We could be UT fans this morning. Imagine our basketball taking four year dive toward mediocrity. That is how UT fans are feeling.

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Keith Hummel 7 months, 1 week ago

We have to remind ourselves that we are merely 2 games into the 2nd year of a massive rebuilding project. The pieces to a good team are there, they just aren't working well. The defense is further along than we thought. I thought they played an awesome game. The offense, obviously, isn't. Coaches Blasko, Grunhard, Ianello, and Powlus should be embarrassed by what they put on the field last night. Weis should be embarrassed by the overall lack of coordination and his questionable play calling. The entire offense should be embarrassed for their horrible execution. Tons of work to do, but with the Big-12 schedule looming in two weeks they are rapidly running out of time. I expect to see inspired football from the entire team against LA Tech.

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namohcan_99 7 months, 1 week ago

Ten games left and no answers in sight. That's the most depressing thing to come out so inept against a Rice team that had no real offense, but still enough to beat ours. If Heaps and the receivers don't get it together fast, we may not win another game after La Tech.

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Robert Brown 7 months, 1 week ago

I liked the way the defense played but the offense is frustrating to watch. Heaps was pressured all night and I don't care how good a QB you are, if you get pressure you are not going to be effective.

I have always been a proponent of the dual threat QB in college. It is especially needed for a team like KU who will probably never be able to recruit talented skilled players. Weis has chosen to go with the pro set. I don't see how it will work. Heaps is slow. He ran a few times last night and was easily stopped even when it looks like he can run for a first down.

The other thing that stood out to me that no one has mentioned is how long Heaps holds the ball. There were several times where the play was not there and Heaps should have thrown the ball out of bounds but he end up sacked.

Weis portrays himself as an offensive genius a lot of which is based on him coaching Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady would have become Tom Brady regardless of who coached him so maybe Weis has gotten too much credit for Tom Brady. Weis should get credit for developing Brady Quinn at Notre Dame but his tenure at Notre Dame was not a success. He also was the OC of a very poor offense at Florida.

Given that offense is Weis's forte, name a school in the Big 12 who has a worse offense than KU. Maybe Iowa State.

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Brandon Mahon 7 months, 1 week ago

Mundine was terrible... Weis needs to get his crap together. RUN THE BALL!!!! We have 3 backs and multi purpose Pierson. Running the ball equals moving the ball which will equal stacking the box which means it opens up the passing game. If the secondary is more worried about the backs then it is a little easier to get separation and throw the ball. I am 3 years removed from high school football and I know that. Sometimes I feel like Weis is a genius and sometimes feel like he should be coaching high school again. Alot of things need to change if we want to get back to winning a couple games. Weis wants to show Heaps off, well he could if we had the opportunity. Sims, Miller, Bourbon, and Pierson will allow Heaps to show off by RUNNING THE BALL

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90sHawk 7 months, 1 week ago

Pure frustration .... the defense puts together an overall solid performance and the offense lays a complete egg. The O-line was a joke, our receiving corp was a bigger joke. If Mundine cannot catch the ball, and after 2 games the evidence points to the fact he can't, then bench him. He is NO GOOD as a potential receiver if he can't catch it. McCay was disappointing as well. As many have pointed out above, we play with no swagger. It appears no matter who the team is, FCS or FBS, they are at least as physical as we are and typically much more physical. This team doesn't have any nasty in them from what I'm watching on the field; some players do (Heeney for example) but the team doesn't. Two games in and no overall improvement from last year. I posted after the SDSU that Rice would be THE measuring stick for the remainder of the season. I believe it was. If the offense doesn't get their act together, and quickly, La Tech is going to be our only remaining win of the season and even that isn't close to a given. As bad as ISU looks this year, that's an away game and we all know about our road game futility.

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danno1313 7 months, 1 week ago

It s unimaginable, (and I m not sure why) that this team cannot get better, year to year. Yes they are playing, "CLOSER GAMES." That doesn't cut it in my world. The offensive line has FIVE GIANTS that weigh close to 300lbs or more. They couldn't block me!! The D looked okay but RICE did run the option 40 times and KU stopped them maybe once! SOMEBODY take the PITCH MAN! What is going to happen in Big 12 play when nobody takes the PITCH MAN? Touchdowns of course!

As for Heaps, he's a complete joke. I expected an improvement over Christ but at this point it's a wash. HE holds the ball way to long. If the receivers aren't open, throw the ball away! He isn't helped by a tight end that couldn't catch a pass at the point of a gun! The same guy couldn't catch one last season. Why is he playing??????

Next week is the last chance to win a game this season. (maybe) I called three wins this year, four if KU got some breaks. Looks like I was a little optimistic. Memorial Stadium will look like Rice's stadium did last night for the rest of the season. As it should!!!

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akgjenkintown 7 months, 1 week ago

How do you get a penalty of illegal substitution on first down after a change of possession? Then offsides on 4 and 7 after the ball was kicked into the end zone (20 yard line), and the re-kick (pooch punt) downed at the 9. The absolutely stupid delay of game on 4 and 2 deep in your own territory trying to draw the other team offsides. Note to Charlie, other teams are disciplined. That resulted in moving the punter back 5 yards, a short kick and great field position for Rice. You can go on and on about the poor decisions throughout the game (as well as the first game of the season). I just about had a stroke following that inept backwards pass for minus 12 yards when the team was driving. This all comes down to coaching. Last year KU lost games in their grasp because of the poor coaching decisions. Nothing has changed in year 2 under Weis. Kudos to the defense and Campo. They seemed to show improvement from week 1 to week 2. Unfortunately, the offense lead by Weis and his four Super Bowl rings, looked just a bad.

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flyingfinn 7 months, 1 week ago

I certainly think Heaps can improve but the great receivers catch everything that is thrown NEAR them. Our receivers can't even catch the balls thrown right AT them. Watching yesterdays Bama- A&M game with 2 great QBs, they bot had receivers that make plays. Until we can do the same we are in trouble. You can not totally rely on a run game in today's football and consistently win. Teams like Bama and LSU that use to run the majority of the time are now passing teams. .

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Brett McCabe 7 months, 1 week ago

Let me get this straight....we were the underdog last night, right? The sky has not fallen. Improvement needs to be made but we are two games into the season. Let's at least get 1/4th of the way into the season before complete panic sets in.

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Geekinout 7 months, 1 week ago

Who ever called the plays on offense last night should be freshening up the résumé this morning. That's been the plague of KU football since I can remember, giving people endless opportunities that they don't deserve, while not allowing those who do! Time to find an up and coming youthful healthy coach that doesn't like losing, more than they like winning. Charlie Weis just seems past his prime and lacks the energy it's going to take to make the changes we all want to see..

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FCCoHawk 7 months, 1 week ago

My two cents... Receivers dropped too many balls. Not just tough catches, but balls that were right in their hands with no one hitting them!!!! You gotta make plays. Can't blame this on Heaps. Would be incredibly frustrating to make the throw and repeatedly have it dropped. Certainly would have changed game

Play calling was terrible. The backward pass, no play action, Heaps running. Stay vanilla until they stop us. What was the throw down the sideline that was intercepted? He had great coverage and it was underthrown.

Defense overall played pretty well. Again, gave up more yards in 2nd half but kept us in the game enough where we should have won.

I think this team is better than last yr. Defense needs to continue to improve and I think it will. Our receivers need to catch balls period. Even Sims dropped one late in the flat that would have picked up 3-4yds and made a 3rd and 3 instead of 3rd and 7 that we did not convert. Weiss needs to not call the plays. We need to run 70-30 with the pass for now. Play action.

It was an incredibly frustrating loss to watch as we should have won. I do think this team is improved and will see how the next couple games go. They must continue to improve and a good win next week will help. Trying to be optimistic.

One more thing. One of the most disappointing things so far is the penalties. Last yr we had very few, this yr a lot more. Not sure why the difference but concerning.

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Fototherapist 7 months, 1 week ago

Matt Tait, it's time to start being more realistic and honest about the caliber of this team. I grow tired of you always sugar coating things in your writing. There is very little to be proud of or inspired by with this team. It's starting to look like a carbon copy of last year. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

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oilguy 7 months, 1 week ago

Heeney and McDonald played well. Dropped passes and poor blocking doomed the offense. The Owls played with a purpose and inserted players to achieve specific goals - KU lacked timing and focus.

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Bill Thompson 7 months, 1 week ago

The only thing I can think of this morning is CATCH THE DAMN BALL! If Mundine can't seem to make a catch then he needs to ride the bench and lets get an underclassman in there!

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SWKSJayhawk87 7 months, 1 week ago

The O-Line, TE, and WR's need to get a LOT better in a big hurry or it will be status quo for the 2013 season I fear!

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Ethan Berger 7 months, 1 week ago

Really wishing we had Nick Harwell right now.... Play calling was horrible as some would suggest. The heaps runs were annoying and the screens after they failed but that was it. I was watching our wideout and boy could they not get open. They were letting rice guys big boy them all night. Our starting wideouts next week need to be whoever didn't play this week beside Tony and tre. Very happy with the defense and more importantly Ben Heeny. Our d line was getting pressure on every pass they just need to finish.

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utahjayhawk 7 months, 1 week ago

I'd put at least a good portion of the overall disappointment so far this year squarely at the feet of the LJW sports writers (Matt, Tom, etc). They set unreal expectations very subtly when they gear up their fball "sunshine machine" every Jul & Aug.

Bottom line, as in many years past, this team is jus not good, other than Heeney, McDonald. The O-line should have dominated the smaller Rice D-line/LBs in establishing the run, which might have freed up receivers.

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Dale Stringer 7 months, 1 week ago

The problems I saw last night: OFFENSE - WR & Offensive line blocking - so many blocks were just missed or not held long enough. - Pass catching (Mundine lost this game by himself) - Sims and Pierson on the field at the same time, all the time. We were better last year when they swapped out. Having one of them out also means the Bourbon is in and he would have been that sixth blocker Sims needed. - Receivers getting open - QB - Heaps would hold the ball too long - That stupid Delay of Game penalty when we tried to get them to jump offsides. Next time direct snap the ball to the back as Heaps walks toward the bench like he is upset with the call. He'd be the motion guy. DEFENSE - Could not stop the run option. That's it. There are two sub-parts to this though... -- DB's could get off the WR block -- Linebackers too focused on the runner to notice there is a big tackle about to take them both out. There tackles would bump our DEs just long enough to let the QB and RB get a start and then go smack the unaware LB. The thing that really bugged me was the other LB would run right into them.

Things we did right: OFFENSE - QB arm. Heaps made a lot of really good throws. To bad most were to Mundine and Ford. Ugh. RB - another game they were making yards without much help. DEFENSE - DB play shutdown their pass game for the most part. Even that long bomb they got should have been call Offensive Holding because one of their WRs was pushing our guy when they crossed, not letting our guy get into position. - Line and LBs - they shutdown the inside run.

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HawkDownSouth 7 months, 1 week ago

I was at the game and I am surprised nothing has been mentioned about the halftime show. It seems that they were trying to make fun of Kansas and the things it is known for (ie Wizard of Oz, Superman, etc). I was there with my kids and they even mentioned that the halftime performance was in poor taste and it was kind of a strange feeling sitting there in the stands with some senior Rice grads. I'm not sure if this is what they normally do to halftime opponents, but it was pretty ridiculous. I was glad to see the KU fans respond by booing the show and the fact that of the 22 thousand attending were mainly KU fans. Needless to say, as a proud alum, my kids said they won't be going to Rice and we won't be attending any further Rice gamees. Good to know my kids bleed crimson.

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ShockHawk10 7 months, 1 week ago

Watching Jake Heaps fidget around in the pocket all last night, I wondered what the LJW staff saw in practice over the past year to inspire the praise they "heaped" on him (pun intended). The predictions made by the bloggers and writers for this publication seem ludicrous. Was it Tait that predicted thousands of passing yards, 20+ touchdowns, and a high completion percentage from our second retread QB? I fully understand that this was only the second game of the season, and Heaps hadn't seen game action in nearly two years. However, he looked uncomfortable in the pocket all night. He had "happy feet", clearly doesn't know when to throw a ball away, and has absolutely zero running ability. Where is this accuracy and zip that so many articles were devoted to throughout the summer? I also understand that many of his receivers dropped catchable balls, but Heaps tossed many poor passes. And, many of these catchable balls were either wounded ducks or in difficult positions. What is the point of all of this? As a graduate and fan who lives in Wichita, I don't have the opportunity to see the team play until the season begins. I follow all reports of Jayhawk football closely, read the LJW daily, and base my expectations on the analysis of the objective reporters who have access to the athletes and the program. Well, you've set me up for disappointment again, LJW staffers. Your summer analysis of Jake Heaps is not translating to the fall. He looked more like Dayne Crist than Todd Reesing last night, and it was your analysis over the past year that suggested otherwise. It is obvious to me why he lost his starting job at BYU - a program I want the Jayhawks to exceed in success.

On a side note - We gained more yards laterally than we did vertically. For some reason we play the game side-to-side. Poor play calling from a poor offensive coordinator?

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milehighhawk 7 months, 1 week ago

Just curious how much longer the writers will continue -- either through gullibility or bullying -- to happily lap up what Charlie says.

Our #1, most-hyped recruit? Not even on the sidelines.

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Jonathan Allison 7 months, 1 week ago

KU had every opportunity to win but couldn't put together a drive to save their lives.

Charles Ross was a man among boys last night. And why on earth can we not defend the option?

Rice is a good team, but if we can't score, can't defend the option, and can't stop the run against Rice then it's gonna be tough. Is the Rice defensive back field that good that Heaps can't find someone open when he scrambles for 15 seconds?

Tough loss, but I still think that KU is gonna put it together this year and win in the Big 12, probable even on the road. The Big 12 competition does not look that good this year.

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Kevin Crook 7 months, 1 week ago

Really enjoying our "decided schematic advantage". Rice had eight and nine guys in the box and we can't seem to complete a pass. Would be great to see our receivers and backs run shorter routes. Our glory days with Reesing and the gang was a lot of short crossings, etc with big yards after the catch. The kind of plays that either get five to eight yards, or if a tackle is broken can net 20 or more. Our play calling is hugely disappointing, and time after time during our games over the last couple of years I have said to myself as I watched the other teams, why doesn't KU run plays like that? The defense played their hearts out, and has come a long ways. But college football is all about offensive effectiveness and efficiency. Look at Bama vs A&M 2.0, Bama played much better on offense this year versus last year and finally outscored Johnny Football. KU needs some of that.

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Jayhawk2016 7 months, 1 week ago

I don't see why Charlie always shies away from what should be the bulk of our play calling. Run the damn ball. We have 3-5 running backs who can average five yards a carry. Quit passing it back to back to back times. Only leads to three and outs. Our receivers are just not that good. Run the ball. Run the ball.

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Mike Barnhart 7 months, 1 week ago

Glass half full comments:

  1. Heaps hasn't seen real game action in almost two years. He'll get better.

  2. The juco's HAVE improved the overall talent level.

  3. The Big 12 has plenty of beatable teams this year.

  4. The o-line is young, it'll get better.

  5. There are other tight ends on the depth chart. Maybe one of them can get open AND catch the ball!

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Brett McCabe 7 months, 1 week ago

So...first, where is the respect for Rice? A&M gained 480 yards against the Rice defense. A&M just gained over 600 yards yesterday against the number one ranked team in America, and scored 42 points on them. Yes Manziel sat a half, but A&M is the number 6 ranked team in the country.

Rice played a bowl game last year and returned everyone except a cheerleader and a water boy. If Rice was in the Big 12, we would have been a two-touchdown dog at their place.

I'm not as down on this result as I would have thought. The two biggest tests of the season actually come in the next two weeks. Do we pick ourselves up, get to work and get the offense on track next week?

Then, facing the wild-west offense of TTU, do we show that we can slow it down and compete at home in front of what will probably be a small crowd?

There are two really good opportunities in front of us. I saw enough improvement last year to expect that we'll see some this year. Get back to work boys. It's one game. There are 10 more to come.

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NotTait 7 months, 1 week ago

Mundine should be kicked off the team. The guy cannot catch anything, Heaps is not much better than Crist. O-Line is worse and we can't even run as well as last season.

What an embarrassment of a team...

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John Mueller 7 months, 1 week ago

PS

I apologize to all 11 yr old girls everywhere with a little moxy and athletic ability.

I love the great quote "There is no greater feeling that blocking another man completely against his will and removing him from the play"

19, you should try it.

No wonder Bob Stoops cut you lose.

Can't catch it, no speed to separate and couldn't knock a squirrel away from his acorn.

Never been more disgusted at Kansas football. Never.

And, if we have one more 12 men on the field penalty this year, I'm GONNA KICK MY DOG AND MY NEIGHBORS DOG. Are you flipping kidding me??????

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John Mueller 7 months, 1 week ago

Ouch. I am also a long time glutton for punishment Jhawk football this year is our year guy.

But, after watching Bama / aTm, this was just awful.

It's bad high school football.

I don't ever want to see 41 again....

He needs to pursue something that doesn't require hands. I mean, he's awful. And, I know, I know, it's just a game and he's just a kid. But, I actually pay lots of money to watch this crap.

And, Charlie Weis, what the hell are you thinking? When you have field position and worst case, a chance for 3 points and you call a backwards pass, err, fumble?????

That is just dumb. It's called a FORWARD pass for a reason.

Obviously on tv we can't really watch routes, but I am convinced: 1. We don't have any receivers that can get open and 2. Even if they did, cannot catch the ball

I hate to say it, but I would put Cummings in, use your 4 backs and run the Georgia Tech offense. It's our only obvious position of strength on offense and we are waisting on field positions with the receiver corpse on the field.

PS 19, if you can't run routes or catch, at least block somebody. You look like an 11 yr old girl when your attempting to execute a block. Pathetic

I am completely disgusted.

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Bryce Landon 7 months, 1 week ago

This game was all too reminiscent of the games we lost in the 2004 and 2005 seasons. The KU defense would play well enough to win, but Adam Barmann's impotent offense cost us those games. I'm hoping that Jake Heaps doesn't turn out to be like Adam Barmann, but last night was not an encouraging sign. I blame bad offensive execution, not play-calling, on this loss.

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hotrodm 7 months, 1 week ago

Where was Taylor Cox, was he injured? KU's last game Cox was a beast running the football.

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Thomas John 7 months, 1 week ago

Incidentally, what is the NCAA Division 1 record of consecutive football road losses?

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Thomas John 7 months, 1 week ago

Receivers dropped way way too many balls. All that hype on Heaps on the CBS Sports Network was overdone. Don't these guys practice during the week? The offense should be embarrassed.

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Janet Scott 7 months, 1 week ago

Total futility = KU "football". KU coaching staff should be included in Charlie's "pile of crap" assessment. 2-10 this year. Wonderful.

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mahkmood 7 months, 1 week ago

Really, I'm sick of hearing the excuses from this guy. The accountability falls on Weis, not the QB, not the WR's, not the officials. Weis's high paying job is to make sure the players on the field are quality, and if they aren't, it is Weis's fault. It makes me furious how CW keeps blaming the players. He needs to take some coaching etiquette lessons from Bill Snyder and (yes, I'm going to say it) Mark Mangino.

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Geekinout 7 months, 1 week ago

Wish we could maintain a ground attack and not abandon it every time we get behind. I dont think our coaches realize the run game is the body blow of football that pays off late in games. We saw way too many drops and way too many players jogging on their routes and breaks while Heaps was scrambling out of a decently held pocket. Seems like there were way too many coverage sacks. Just an off night. I still think this team could surprise a few good teams. Just need to tighten up the play calling and timing. As always and once again, I'd love to see ku try to run the flex option (navy, Gtech, Air Force, etc) with the talent at running back and lack of talent in WR/TE.. We'd be the only team in the big 12(10) and we'd at least control the clock.

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machinegun 7 months, 1 week ago

Can Ben Heeney play both ways? I know he made more than 15 tackles. That my friends is what you call leading by example!

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actorman 7 months, 1 week ago

For those of us who have been fans of KU football for years (I've been a fan since the late '70s), this is all sadly familiar: a bunch of hype about how this year things will be different, the talent is much better than in the past, so-and-so is the second coming of John Hadle, etc., etc., etc.

Despite being disappointed time and time again (with a few extremely rare exceptions), I usually manage to convince myself that this HAS to be the year it starts changing. Well, what I saw tonight was like a replay of so many other games over the years.

A few days ago, KURiggins posted about 10 times in the same article, criticizing anyone who dared to say anything negative about Coach Weis, and saying how anyone who would deign to do such a thing was not a true KU fan. Well, KURiggins (and others of his ilk who think anyone saying a negative thing about KU is not a real Jayhawk), Is it okay if we criticize CW NOW?

I would love to believe that this game was just a case of a lot of new players getting to know each other and CW's system; that the defense's generally solid showing presages a good year for them; and that the brilliance of CW's offensive schemes will start showing soon, but please forgive me if I'm skeptical about all of that at this point. I've just seen this type of performance WAY too many times before.

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Adam McEwen 7 months, 1 week ago

Back in the Mangino days, when our wideouts could actually catch the ball, they used to practice catching from a tennis ball machine. Maybe they should knock the dust off that piece of equipment. On second thought, buy a beach ball throwing machine, and work their way down..

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741hawk 7 months, 1 week ago

My wife suggests moving a couple of D-backs to WR. Not a bad idea. We know Dexter McDonald can catch!

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741hawk 7 months, 1 week ago

My wife suggests moving a couple of D-backs to WR. Not a bad idea. We know Dexter McDonald can catch!

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Adam McEwen 7 months, 1 week ago

after this game, I'm pretty confident the only way the KU receivers will get their hands on the ball this season is if they play center. Pathetic. Catch the damn ball! Also, why are we so hell bent on throwing the ball when we have the best stable of backs in the big 12? Run! control the clock. It worked for NDSU against KSU pretty well a couple weeks ago. Not to mention our best play maker #3 getting what 4? touches? SMH...

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dumbarton 7 months, 1 week ago

Coach Weiss please repeat after me...Jimmy Mundine can't catch, Jimmy Mundine can't catch, Jimmy Mundine can't catch. He should have been benched after he dropped that critical 3rd down catch in the first quarter that would have kept the drive alive. Heaps is amazingly slow afoot. Scrambling is definitely not his forte. Play calling was questionable at best tonight. Overall the defense looked pretty good and played inspired. Offense....could be in for a long season.

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kay_you 7 months, 1 week ago

Need to play a softer schedule. You know, the kind you pay to come to Memorial and don't have to play on the road. We've lost to Rice (twice), Northern Illinois and Southern Miss in recent years. Take the Bill Snyder approach and go shopping for some cupcakes.

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Cmill1221 7 months, 1 week ago

Totally dejected. That sums up my feelins. Defense wasn't great but made plays. WTF is up w/ the offense? It's pitiful!! 70% of our offense came on two plays, Sims long run and Piersons TD. Other than that totally pathetic. Even the play calling, what was up w/ that STUPID double pass call? Talk about a buzz kill. That was so hard to watch, if you weren't able to see the game consider yourself lucky.

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Annette Lee 7 months, 1 week ago

I'm disappointed in the passing game. I know HCCW has to keep his QB confident but I don't... "Just catch the ball" was my comment...And Heaps missed throws too.I'm officially off the band wagon! I mean, I was looking for" Super man "and I got" Under Dog" ! BOO Hiss Bummer!!

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pigballin 7 months, 1 week ago

The whole coaching staff suks.. The best player is McDonald. sheahan suks.

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pigballin 7 months, 1 week ago

KU will announce that Football will be cancelled the remainder of the year for lack of interest. And Sheahan's contract has been terminated for hiring a Turner Gill clone.

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romejhawk 7 months, 1 week ago

The offense is pretty awful to watch. Thought Weiss was supposed to be this offensive genius? I know there were dropped balls, but the offense is pretty stale.

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texashawk10 7 months, 1 week ago

DLine still has no depth. Ross is a 230 lb. back and wore out the defense in the 4th quarter after McHargue left the game. That said, the defense as a whole played a solid game against on offense that could've put up a lot more points. To hold the Rice offense without a TD until late in the game when McHargue was out of the game was impressive. It is definitely something to build off of for that side of the ball going forward.

WR's can't run routes or catch a cold. There's a reason Jake Heaps was holding onto the ball as long as he was and it's because the WR's don't know how to run routes or improvise when a play breaks down.

OLine played like crap tonight. There was no running room between the tackles and I can't Sims actually got over 100 yards (even if it happened on the last play)

The play calling needs to change. Play action was there all night for KU's offense as Heaps ran a lot of boot legs off of the stretch runs and Rice was not covering him at all. A naked boot with Parmalee or Pierson running a route against the flow has big play potential written all over it. I don't know if Weis is saving that for conference play, but I don't think he's a big play action guy because I don't remember KU running it much last year either and with KU's run game, the play action will be there all game long against everybody.

It is so nice to know that a 47 yards field goal is an option. Wyman had plenty of distance on that kick and he just missed it. 47 yards is not a gimme at the college level and Wyman will make a 50+ yarder at KU before this season is done.

This one didn't necessarily cost KU the game because they were already down 9, but the 4th down pass to Tony Pierson that was call incomplete was a bad call. I was 20 feet away and Pierson's hands and arm were under that ball. The official that was right there on top of the play ruled it a completion as well. It was an official 25 yards away who didn't have a great angle on the play that ruled it incomplete and it ticked me off to no end that the official who was on top of the play didn't stand up for his ruling.

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Doug Cramer 7 months, 1 week ago

Hope this team can keep their heads up...and "keep sawin wood".

The D looked better tonight than it ever did last year. Just keep sawin wood boys. That goes for Coach Weis and his staff...keep your heads up gentlemen.

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