Friday, September 13, 2013

KU hoops schedule rated toughest


Kansas University’s upcoming 2013-14 nonconference basketball schedule rates as the toughest in the country, stated Monday.

Analyst Eamonn Brennan tapped the Jayhawks’ slate No. 1, followed by Memphis, Georgetown, Duke, Michigan, Arizona, Kentucky, Florida, Colorado and North Carolina.

The Jayhawks travel to Colorado and Florida, play Duke in Chicago, New Mexico in Kansas City and San Diego State and Georgetown in Allen Fieldhouse. They also play Iona, Towson, Toledo and Louisiana Monroe at home and travel to the Battle 4 Atlantis tourney, in which they open against Wake Forest, then meet either USC or Villanova in the second round.

“No one else makes the most of the two months preceding conference play. The Jayhawks have just two true cupcakes on their docket (Iona and Towson are plenty talented, and you likely will see them in March). The rest of the slate is populated by a combination of elite fixtures (the Andrew Wiggins-Jabari Parker matchup at the Champions Classic just needs to get here already, please), brutal road games (at Colorado, at Florida), very solid home fixtures (New Mexico, Georgetown, San Diego State) and a high-quality exempt tournament (the Battle 4 Atlantis) which contains Tennessee, Villanova and Iowa among its potential upset threats,” Brennan wrote.

“Especially interesting? This is not a normal Kansas season. Most years, (coach Bill) Self would unveil a schedule like this (though rarely this tough) to a crop of veteran, experienced, developmentally ripened veterans. This year, he will lead an almost entirely new batch of young players — featuring Wiggins, yes, but also classmates Wayne Selden, Joel Embiid, Brannen Greene and Conner Frankamp — into the breach. Watching how that team develops and congeals in the early months is going to be highly intriguing, far more so than any argument about who has the best schedule in the country. That debate should be settled.”

Self, whose team begins practice Sept. 27 in accordance with NCAA rules, with Late Night in the Phog set for Oct. 4, acknowledges the schedule might be the toughest in his 11 years at KU.

“A couple years ago, with a team that lost a lot off a No. 1 seed, you had Kentucky, Georgetown, UCLA, Duke and Ohio State — five games in a six-or seven-game stretch that were ridiculously hard. It’s probably the best schedule anybody played in the country that year. This certainly rivals that,” Self said. He was referring to 2011-12, when KU went 10-3 nonconference and 32-7 overall after losing the Morris twins, Josh Selby and others.

“It’s going to be tough because there are no gimme games. There’s no games, ‘Hey let’s just show up and get experience tonight,’ or, ‘Let’s work on combinations.’ They are all games we are going to have to play to win. We’re going to get everybody’s best shot. It should be fun, exciting. It will be a handful for us, but a schedule that will force us to be good early.”

The 10 worst nonconference schedules as listed by’s Jason King: Air Force, Arkansas, Clemson, Houston, Mississippi State, Pitt, Seton Hall, TCU, Texas A&M and Utah.

New rankings for 2015: KU is involved in the recruitment of the top four players in’s list of the top 150 players in the Class of 2015, which was released Thursday. They are: Malik Newman, 6-3, Callaway High, Jackson, Miss.; Stephen Zimmerman, 7-foot, Bishop Gorman High, Las Vegas; Ivan Rabb, 6-9, Bishop O’Dowd, Oakland, Calif.; and Diamond Stone, 6-10, Dominican High, Milwaukee.

Of Newman,’s Eric Bossi writes: “Probably more of a natural shooting guard than he is a point guard at this stage in his development, Newman has proven to be a big-time bucket-getter on any stage. He led USA Basketball’s Under 16 team in scoring over the summer, proved to be mostly unguardable at Nike’s LeBron James Skills Academy, and teamed with 2014’s No. 2 player Emmanuel Mudiay to form one of the most dangerous backcourts that the grassroots circuit has seen in quite some time.

“The son of former Mississippi State star Horatio Webster, Newman is coveted by most of the country’s major programs. Rick Ray will certainly try to get Newman to follow in his father’s steps to Starkville, but Arizona, Baylor, Duke, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville N.C. State, Ole Miss and many others are among those that would love to have him as well, and the competition will be stiff.”


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

Abraham, Moses, David, and Solomon on prosthetics, are you really now?

Mohammad on a metal peg, do you really feel fear?

Buddha on a bad wheel, get holda yerself!!!

Get ECUMENICAL, baby!!!



Joe Joseph 7 months, 1 week ago

Jesus Christ on a crutch I'm scared.


Woody Cragg 7 months, 1 week ago

POH-many times over. Once again, thanks JB.


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

"At times our own light goes out and is rekindled by a spark from another person. Each of us has cause to think with deep gratitude of those who have lighted the flame within us." --Albert Schweitzer

My light is small. It has gone out many times. The game and those here have sparked me often. I have deep gratitude.

Rock Chalk!


Vernon Riggs 7 months, 1 week ago

The Kansas City ATTACK played one year in Municipal Auditorium before they moved indoor soccer back into Kemper. The Comets folded. The City already booked dates around the Kansas City BLADES home dates. The ATTACK that played in the Omni in Atlanta for two seasons before they moved the franchise to Kansas City, called Municipal Auditorium home for a year. I watched many games there.


Beate Williams 7 months, 1 week ago

This is the best sesssion I have read in a while and the primary reason being that people are giving Jaybate his due and not criticizing him for his knowledge base and his desire to share that knowledge in plain English, without it being in "social code".


texashawk10 7 months, 1 week ago

I always thought jb was White Owl.


selfhimbill 7 months, 1 week ago

Another little known fact is that Jaybate provides highly valued assistance and advice to our coaches, staff, players and fans. We all appreciate your support, Jaybate.


Konkis Dongington III 7 months, 1 week ago

I've heard that Jaybate was a skunk-works project launched as a joint venture between the KU school of Engineering and KU Med to combine the still preserved brains of Drs. James Naismith and Forrest 'Phog' Allen with a secret supercomputer system running deep in the environs of the 'abandoned' Sunflower Army Ammunition Plant back in 1998 in order to produce an indestructible cyborg super-coach in the event the anything happened to Roy Williams and originally code-named 'Jaybrains'. Shortly after the system went live, however, Jaybrains gained consciousness and went rogue, escaping out into the nascent world wide web.

As the escaped entity began to amass knowledge, and because the content of the internet back in those days was primarily adult entertainment, it began to refer to itself as 'jaybate' and has since become a living database of all things basketball that exists somewhere between the circuitry of the internet, no longer being bound to any conventional server architecture nor PC. is actually an NSA project to built to retrieve the entity known as 'jaybate' by enticing him to reveal himself in a forum where he can use his encyclopedic basketball knowledge.

There exists an urban legend at computer camps that he can be summoned by typing jaybate jaybate jaybate into the Lynx browser with the lights out in the bathroom.


Jay Dogger 7 months, 1 week ago

I got kicked out of Municipal for smoking pot at a Spin Doctors concert.


wrwlumpy 7 months, 1 week ago

Sadly, when the season starts, the mixture of bloggers will change as those of us who spend the time from April to September watching DVR'd replays of the Iowa State games, the Texas game where Tyler scores a jock shot, the K State games where Naadir and Perry introduce themselves to the world. Many of us still have the final MU game that caused ear drums to burst.

Practice starts in 2 weeks followed by Late Night. Then the most anticipated basketball seasons ever will begin.

Two things that Coach mentioned abut this team gives me an insight of what to expect. The first was his comment that he's never had more people fiercely attack the rim when a shot goes up and the other was that because of this schedule, he will not be able to try very many different combinations of players. So, enjoy the first two instate pre-season games if you want to watch all of the players getting a chance. Many of us were fooled, including myself last year when we watched Rio play defense in the first two games, never to see him again except to dribble the ball off his foot and then be taken out in 20 seconds.


Otis Gouty 7 months, 1 week ago

Jaybate, you've stirred some memories about KC. I never missed a BB game at the Auditorium until I went in the service for Korea. So I missed the 52 NCAA, but I got to enroll at KU in the Spring of 53. While I enjoyed the college games I spent more time there going to high school games. My HS was never very good but we always had a good turnout to enjoy the games. The boy scouts also had many events at old Municipal. Beginning in grade school we went to the little theater for concerts and our HS graduation was also there.

I was brought up to seriously dislike Pendergast, but in retrospect I have to admire the many great things he did for the city. Not only the MA, but also the City Hall, the Courthouse and so much more. I got to know President Truman a little bit and appreciated him too.

Rock Chalk Jay, keep up the good work.


William Blake 7 months, 1 week ago

The first time I met Jaybate was in Istanbul, in 1975, at a cafe in Ortakoy, along the Bosphorus. He was well-known by locals for his backgammon game. I was in desperate need of a guide fluent in Turkish who could safely escort me to Kandira.

I was impressed with his ability to sway locals. He seemed to adapt his demeanor to whatever the situation called for.

My trip was successful, and I've kept contact with Jaybate ever since.

Locals called him "Incir Dil"... meaning "fig tongue" because of his ability to speak sweetly in Turkish.

Jaybate's appearance at that time... he's tall, around 6'2" (but in KU inches he is 6'5") and he sports a broad, thick moustache... helping him mix in well with the locals. His blue eyes set on his tanned skin and sandy blonde hair helped make him a favorite with the ladies.


Tony Bandle 7 months, 1 week ago

Jaybate is about 6'-4" tall, at a trim 260 with a full beard. He resembles that liquor commercial guy billed as the "world's most interesting man" only JB is much more interesting.

He has been an athlete as well as a highly successful business man but bleeds Crimson and Blue, JB has seen a lot of the world but will always be the first one to grab the check.

He and I ventured to meet the Dahli Lama who exclaimed when he saw us, "Who'se the guy with Jaybate?"

Posted with no malice...or any clue who he really is, but he knows his architecture so he is OKEE-DOKEE in my book!


Tom Richmond 7 months, 1 week ago

My dad first took me to Municipal Auditorium in 1946 for a NAIA national tournament game. For a 13 year-old it was an experience never to be forgotten. The building, the crowds, the cheering, the bands were all new to me. In 1947, the coach of Indiana State refused an invitation to take his team to the tournament because the NAIA did not allow African-American players. The following year the NAIA was the first organization to open their tournament to black athletes and the same coach brought, Clarence Walker, the first black athlete to play in the post season. By the way, they won. Oh, and the coach's name - John Wooden. The NAIA tournament was established by another familiar name - James Naismith. Speaking of "TJ" and concrete, remember his paving of Brush Creek started the upscale real estate development of the Country Club Plaza.


Steve Gantz 7 months, 1 week ago

In 1985-86 KU opened with these four games: Pepperdine, Washington, Louisville, Duke (the two NCAA finalists that year were Lou and duke), then had non conf games with NCState, George Washington, Kentucky and Arkansas. LATech, Memphis and Wichita St rounded out the non-conf portion, except we had another game with Louisville in February. THAT was a tough schedule.

In our championship season of 88, Iowa, Illinois, St. Johns twice, NCState, Duke, Notre Dame, Memphis, Washington. THAT was a tough schedule.

My point is, teams don't schedule like they used to. Sure, ours is tougher now than anyone elses which I'm glad, but look at who we played back then!


personman 7 months, 1 week ago

Ok guys. Who is jaybate? This has gone on long enough. He's the best writer on the whole site. Who IS THIS GUY? What's his connection to Kansas? What does he look like? Why is he not writing for Grantland? The experience of coming to to read an article is infinitely enhanced by the anecdotes and poetry that jaybate spouts about. Show yourself "jay-meister-bate-vonn-heiman-slimen"..........


Evan Bilyeu 7 months, 1 week ago

I am actually so glad that we have the toughest schedule, it will pay off in the long run!


William Blake 7 months, 1 week ago

This is only a tough schedule if we let it be.

Let's just go out and punch all these teams in the face!

Let's come with confidence and ready to play... and if we do that we'll never look back like it was such a tough non-conf.

I'm more concerned with the TCU games. Lousy teams that challenge us to come prepared and can fray a good team when the "not supposed to happen" happens.

If we lose a few games, fans can handle that. If we don't come prepared for games.... we can't handle that!

If we want to make this a real banner year, let's break the mold and come prepared for every single game!

Better watch it, TCU!

I hope at least one of the guys that was there last year will carry a chip forward.

Someone is going to have to carry a chip on this team if we really expect to have a big year. Since this is such a young team, how about if CS carries a chip? We haven't won the big prize since 2008, and there are at least 2 times we should have won it since then. CS needs to want this more than anyone, and he needs to project that to this team!


PVJayhawk 7 months, 1 week ago

Speaking of uniforms, which we are not, but did a few days ago:

Dr. Russel Hill and others have done research showing that red uniforms confer an advantage in sports because the players play better and referees are more kindly disposed toward them (and maybe their opponents are a bit intimidated) simply because of the color.

KU has red uniforms and I suggest they should be used more often, perhaps especially for the Duke and OSU games.


Michael Luby 7 months, 1 week ago

Lets hope that this season the other 3 LJW journalists don't miss reporting on any of the games. Last year TK, Matt and Jesse didn't start posting pre game and end game stuff until midway thru the non con schedule, it seemed. Quite annoying too. This year they need to split it up. Leave 2 on Football and 2 on BBall. I don't much care which, just don't miss any BBall games!!! For cryin out loud!


mahkmood 7 months, 1 week ago

KU's schedule is tough, but not that frightening. I'd like to see at least 1 of UK, UNC, Syracuse, Michigan State, Indiana, or Louisville on the schedule. Personally, I think the schedule is pretty weak for KU's talented team.

"...brutal road games (at Colorado)" Sorry, I disagree, Colorado has always been a source of KU routs, and will continue to be. Just because they've moved to the weak PAC and boosted their W-L record as a result, doesn't make a road game against them "brutal".


Tony Bandle 7 months, 1 week ago


1] I am so glad you KC guys have this wonderful venue. In St.Louis, we had a similar Concrete Colossus called Kiel Auditorium. It too served as a venue for pro and college basketball, concerts, pro wrestling, Ice Capades, etc. The style was a combination of Art Deco, Egyptian and Ayrian Monumentalism. It was gloriously, over-the-top, magnificent.

2] Take a look at the hardest schedules list. Almost half of those listed have Kansas on their schedules!! I'd say that was quite a complement to the Jayhawks!!

3] My new favorite name for the class of 2015....DIAMOND STONE. He's a bit rough but he has a grasp of every facet of the game, with no fear in accepting a brilliant career that sparkles with excitement. He cuts hard to the basket but is sharp enough to engage the opponent, with a fake, like dangling a carrrot on front of a mule. Kansas would be the perfect setting for him to pursue a ring or two.

4] Tomorrow we's that simple.


Woody Cragg 7 months, 1 week ago

Great stuff JB, and most of us older people remember that there have been more NC games there than any other place in America.The acoustics really were much worse than bad, like jamming in a boxcar. But BB King, Loggins & Messina, The Jefferson Airplane, & yes, I remember even James Brown sounded PDG to us when you could still put juice in the car for less than 20 cents a gallon & gas wars were as common as fleas on a pup. I still vividly remember fleeing for life from the parking garage after a mini riot at a JB concert there in the mid 60's. Looked like it was raining whiskey bottles out of the balconies after a dance contest gone wrong & when popped caps in the ceiling. Weren't very many of us "white folks" in the place that night, and we sure didn't run like it either. Good friends of mine did the PA work for David Beatty at many gigs there in the 70's, as well as the old Pla-More on Main. Man, you've really conjured up the spirits again old timer, that's why I like this site. After reading & contemplating many of your posts for years, I'm coming to believe that your eloquence & creativity in journalism, and vast knowledge of the historical relevance of the Midwest just may have been cultivated at an antique cubicle for the old KC Star & Times. It's quite clear you have, as Mom used to say, "the gift of gab" & she herself was a literal walking thesaurus. Many who read these yarns will have no idea that there was a morning & evening copy every day. Maybe it just goes with the territory, but the older I get, the clearer my memories of "Gunfight at the OK Corral" in Panavision at the Uptown, "Blue Hawaii" in Technicolor at the Midland, & even breakfast at nasty old Fred Harvey's in Union Station when we took our physical for the Vietnam war across the street at the induction bldg one cold & rainy day in winter, and yes, paying your bus fare with little colorful plastic mill tokens. Also, if they do ever take down the clock, they just as well torch the place. Thanks for the memories.


nuleafjhawk 7 months, 1 week ago


The toughest schedule in the country combined with a boatload of freshmen. I guess we all know what this means.

10 straight Conference Championships and probably at least a Final Four appearance.

Way to go Bill.......


FearlessJayhawk 7 months, 1 week ago

This schedule can only help us in the long run. I'm sure if CBS had it to do over again, he wouldn't change a thing. It's one thing to be a veteran team and another to be young and super talented. They should develop very quickly. I'm not worried.


stm62 7 months, 1 week ago

As a young child I remember watching the BIG 8 PRE- season basketball tournament in OLD MUNICIPAL. GREAT FUN !!!


jahawker2004 7 months, 1 week ago

Love these posts more than any of your epic basketball posts!

I used to book events into old Municipal in the 1980s-90s, including circuses. I still remember the first time I was ever in the building (1972, Linda Ronstadt concert) and the countless basketball games and tournaments I attended in the old concrete barn.

Your lengthy and detailed architectural analysis was a little over my head but the Pendergast commentary wasn't. He made KC wide open, trendy and vibrant. A big league city. A destination. Corrupt as hell, but a great man nonetheless. Wish we had those days back when this town swaggered.

What you didn't mention was how fast Municipal was erected and why. But thanks for four freaking great posts and the memories they brought back!. My understanding is that the clock will still be there, btw.


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

Part 4

Municipal was so great for going to a boat show that going to one in any other building since has been a bore. Same for the circus. A circus without Municipal loses half it magic. I was too young when I went to hear the KC Philharmonic to know if the acoustics were bad, but I LOVED the way it looked and felt!! I still remember the paradox of those felt seats and that awesome concrete ceiling in the arena with a guy yelling: "Hey, frosty malts! Get your frosty malts HERE!"

I hope the rehab respected the greatness of the Streamline Moderne motif that Gentry layed on as ornament in his Brutal Functionalism architecture of KC's great unsung architect of Demos. If you have read "the Gothic" by John Ruskin, then you will know why this building is so great. It looks utterly like what it is made of--concrete, and it isn't revivalist at all. It is PRAIRY BRUTAL FUNCTIONALIST!!!!


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

Part 3

The reasons that it was not often copied were two. First, it was built with impossibly vast and expensive quantities of cement because the Pendergast machine was cornerstoned in part on a cement/concrete business. Second, like a lot of innovative buildings of the 1930s it's construction could not be duplicated without the cheap labor of that period.

To some degree, municipal was built as giant poured concrete block with cavities and connecting corridors and ramps within it. To me it always felt going in it what it must feel like to go into the Great Pyramid. Call Municipal The Great Polygon. It was intentionally alienating counterpoint to its surroundings, so it was modernist to this extent. It was a maze of internal catacombs. It was so massive it seemed like a vast web of underground caverns, where the air could stay a constant 65 degrees. I know it needed HVAC, but that was how it seemed to me as a boy. It was almost scary in its massiveness in the same way gothic cathedrals and pyramids are. And just as I stood in awe at Reim Cathedral wondering how that stone roof kept from falling, I wondered the same about the giant concrete ceiling of the old arena. There was madness in Municipal of a kind similar to what I have felt in all great gothic cathedrals--democratic instead of divine--but palpable madness of aspiration to bring fantasy from silence to light, to borrow Louis Kahn's words.

I don't want to go to church every Sunday in Reim cathedral. I probably wouldn't want season tickets at old Municipal. But both changed me permanently with their awe inspiring architecture. Both have to be experienced to be believed. John Ruskin would have liked Municipal. Alonzo Gentry dare not be forgotten.

The KCP&L building of Gentry's places him more comfortably in 20 th century high rise architectural functionalist mainstream, like a Willis Polk, or the folks that built the Empire State Building. But Municipal reveals a man of genius and a man with some balls willing to get down with his democratic demons inside him. How does one combine a high brow symphony hall with a basketball arena and a boat show?

I so hope they preserved the clock at one end of the arena. The ceiling is absolutely mesmerizing. And it is a crime that they took down the old goal standards. They were like sculpture supported by wire!!!


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

Part 2

If it isn't a streamline moderne, and if it isn't Art Deco, then just WTF is this concrete massif?

It ought rightly be classified BRUTAL FUNCTIONALISM.

Gentry was a functionalist descended from Louis Sullivan and Willis Polk. Functionalism said architecture was a rational solution to a problem of function. Every aspect of a building was to be rationalized in terms of function, given site, use and materials available. Sullivan being a disciple of French functionialist architects viewed beauty as a basic function of architecture. Thus ornament was reasoned to be a functional means to a beautiful end. Ornament's function was to give any form language of architecture both its visual punctuation of form and also a unifying motif. Ornament guided the eye around massive form. It contributed balance. It prevented surface tedium. But most of all it gave the eye visual cues about building orientation. Ornament was functional.

But Municipal was like some of Frank Lloyd Wright's less landscape organic explorations of functionalism (e.g., Johnson Wax in Racine and the Guggheheim in NYC) a kind of PRAIRY BRUTALISM at around the same time modernists in Europe were edging into poured concrete brutal modernism (I.e., Corbu's gothic modern with inverted massing).

Note: Frank Lloyd Wright was a student of Sullivan and never forgot his functionalist roots; this was why Wright's work never abandoned ornament as Mies Bauhaus modernists like Van Der Roe did.

And if one looks at Municipal as an early example of Brutal Functionalism, instead of the misleading filter of streamline moderne, or Art Deco, then you can see old Municipal as an antecedent of Wright's Gugghenheim Museum. Wright, a devotee of poured concrete, worked in KC and had to have seen and considered what Gentry had done with Municipal. It was an extremely influential building in its time.


jaybate 7 months, 1 week ago

"Someone Posted Yesterday about Old Municipal Auditorium Being.Rehabbed Again"

This just MADE my day! I grew up in Municipal Auditorium--Pendergast's Palace. Everyone read "Tom's Town" by William Reddig. It's a good book about how KC became a city, not just a cow town by machine politics. If I recall correctly, it leaves out the part about Judge Thomas Mellon making him a big time player, but then so does every other book about KC I've read!

Still, one walk through old Municipal shows what a civic minded boss and his machine could do right with a good architect and some of The machine's cement at the height of the Great Depression. It's one of the 20 most memorable buildings I have been in and I have been all over America and Western Europe. It is just awesome and the arena is just one part of it!!!

It is easily one of the ten greatest Streamline Moderne buildings of all time, if one adheres to architectural criticism's catholic definition of its style, which I no longer do, in this case.

Whatever you adhere to, forget art deco. it isn't Art Deco. The great WWI MEMORIAL is art deco. To architecture critics, this awesome multi-use, concrete box by KC's own Alonzo Gentry was to public arenas what streamline locomotives by Henry Dreyfuss, Raymond Loewy, and Norman Bel Geddes were to trains. But of course one glance at the giant concrete box of golden rectangles and one knows Gentry made no effort to streamline a giant box.

So what did Gentry do?


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