Sunday, September 1, 2013

Jayhawks’ top prospects climbing recruiting ranks

Mater Dei forward Stanley Johnson, left, spins around Archbishop Mitty forward Aaron Gordon as he goes to the basket during the second quarter of the CIF boys open division state high school basketball championship game in Sacramento, Calif., Saturday, March 23, 2013.

Mater Dei forward Stanley Johnson, left, spins around Archbishop Mitty forward Aaron Gordon as he goes to the basket during the second quarter of the CIF boys open division state high school basketball championship game in Sacramento, Calif., Saturday, March 23, 2013.


Basketball recruiting notes. ...

At least two high school blue-chip basketball prospects who have Kansas University on their list of prospective colleges figure to jump in’s updated rankings, to be released this week, analyst Eric Bossi reports.

They are: No. 8-rated Stanley Johnson, a 6-foot-7 senior forward from Mater Dei High in Santa Ana, Calif., who is considering KU, UCLA, USC, Kentucky, Oregon, Florida and Arizona, and No. 19 Kelly Oubre, 6-7 senior forward from Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nev., who is considering KU, Kentucky, Florida, UConn, Louisville, Oregon, UNLV and Georgetown.

Oubre will visit KU for the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog. Johnson’s dad informed his son will visit KU at a still-to-be-determined date.

“No matter how you look at rankings, Johnson deserves a move up. Whether you place more value on potential, production or achievement, the beastly 6-foot-7 wing rates high in all areas,” Bossi writes at “He is a proven winner. He has improved and added to his game every step of the way and he doesn’t look like he’s stopping. He’s a lock to move into at least the national top five.”

Recruiting analyst Dave Telep believes Johnson will also improve on his No. 12 ranking.

“Johnson’s game, frame and subsequent success make him a must-have in the national top 10,” Telep writes. “He answered any question college coaches might have (in summer AAU events) and elevated himself to the point where you can expect him to be the best player on his team as a college freshman, depending on the team’s roster. In short, he’s not going to be playing in college for very long.”

Of Oubre, Bossi writes: “A native of Houston who is headed to Findlay Prep, Oubre started to take off during June and, except for a shooting slump at the Peach Jam in July, he has been electric at every stop.”

Packages: Johnson has apparently been talking to Justise Winslow about possibly attending the same school. No. 16-rated Winslow, a 6-6 senior forward from St. John’s High in Houston, and Johnson are both being recruited by KU, USC, UCLA, Kentucky, Florida and Arizona..

One other possible package deal in the class involves No. 1 Jahlil Okafor and No. 2 Tyus Jones, who are visiting Baylor this weekend. They both are being recruited by KU, Duke, Kentucky, Michigan State and Ohio State.

Okafor and Jones will visit KU together on Oct. 18 and Duke on Oct. 25. reports the two will visit Kentucky separately, while Okafor will also visit Arizona with unofficial trips to Illinois, Michigan State and Ohio State. Jones has visited Minnesota unofficially.

Some analysts insist the two will ultimately choose Duke.

“It’s disappointing. It’s taking the fun out of the process for the two boys,” Okafor’s father, Chukwudi Okafor, told, referring to the Duke rumors. “That’s a shame. Let the kids go through the process. I just want them to enjoy it, not the media, not Twitter, not the coaches, not the AAU coaches. Those kids are highly intelligent. They know what to do. Let it play out, and I think the world is in for something special.”

ESPN has also reported that Jones and Okafor have spoken with Winslow about attending the same college.

“I’m going to do what’s best for me and my family,” Winslow told

Alexander update: No. 4-ranked Cliff Alexander, a 6-8 forward from Chicago’s Curie High, who will visit KU for the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog, recently made an official visit to DePaul. He also is planning trips to Louisville, Arizona and Memphis. Kentucky and Michigan State also remain on his list.

DePaul is a serious player, Curie coach Mike Oliver told the Lexington Herald-Leader.

“That’s something that he and his mom have talked about,” Oliver told the Herald-Leader. “They figure he’s a one-and-done, or at most two years. So they figure if they can get a good situation in the state of Illinois, or especially in Chicago, that would be something they would consider.”

Alexander has made unofficial visits to KU, Kentucky and Michigan State. He’ll be back to Lawrence for the Oct. 4 Late Night.

Some analysts believe KU leads for Alexander.

“They say he’s going to Kansas because the girl he dates goes to Kansas,” Oliver said told the Herald-Leader. “People are always spouting rumors.”

Alexander’s AAU coach, Nick Irvin of Mac Irvin Fire, told he sees, “Cliff as being a one-and-done player. Wherever he goes, that school is only going to have him two semesters, and then he’s gone. Cliff is the type of guy that will get a team to the Final Four. He’s the type of guy that can win you a national championship and I believe that to be true. I’m pretty sure the coaches that are recruiting him feel the same way,” he added. “Cliff is just that type of force.”


Ralster Jayhawk 7 months, 2 weeks ago

I think Telep's blanket statement about Johnson "will be the best player on any college roster" is just a bit presumptious. Really? Even if he lands on the KU or KY roster? Is a frosh not versed in SelfBall really going to be better than Ellis or Selden (if they are still here)? There are things you just dont say (analytically speaking), but of course Telep can say/think whatever he wants, and we can 'adjust' his credibility accordingly. And its a sociological point if some national commentator would/should say something irresponsible to fill a kid's head, potentially, with an overly inflated self-worth or attitude. How the kid plays will depend quite a bit on what program&coach he goes to play for.


William Blake 7 months, 2 weeks ago

One moment in time...

and done!

I'd like to know... if CS starts looking at a guy who is lowly ranked (or not ranked in #100), and Self shows interest or makes an offer... does CS carry some weight and help start the momentum on that guy up the charts?

With all the recent press declaring CS and Townsend such great recruiters... doesn't that carry some weight?

Plenty of great talent with KU on the radar. Guess we have to make sure some of our existing guys go pro next summer.

Next question... these recruits all put up their list. Does that mean all those schools are actively recruiting them? Heck yes a recruit should have UK, Duke and KU on his list. He wants to rub elbows with the elite programs. Or... does it even mean these schools are also being considered by the recruit? Even if you weren't considering a school like UK or KU... wouldn't you still what them on your list during the process?

Perception is King... I recall that phrase from marketing.

Discharge... revolve.... discharge.... revolve... discharge... reload...


Robert Brown 7 months, 2 weeks ago

On, this is about basketball recruiting!!


Bewareofthephog Fifety-Five 7 months, 2 weeks ago

2015 worst case scenario (lose Selden, Wiggins, Ellis, and Embiid to draft and don't land anyone:

PG: Naadir Tharpe/Frank Mason

SG: Conner Frankamp/Brannen Greene

G/F: Andrew White III/Brannen Greene

PF: Jamari Traylor/Landen Lucas

C: Hunter Mickelson/Landen Lucas

This is the worst case scenario and it still will be a great team and may be preseason number one. The best case scenario could be the best college team ever, with three five-star freshmen coming off the bench.


Bewareofthephog Fifety-Five 7 months, 2 weeks ago

2015 best case scenario:

PG: Naadir Tharpe/Frank Mason

SG: Conner Frankamp/Brannen Greene

G/F: Andrew White III/Kelly Oubre

PF: Perry Ellis/Cliff Alexander

C: Joel Embiid/Myles Turner


jhawkrulz 7 months, 2 weeks ago

Six days until kickoff and there are more comments on a kind of basketball story than the football story...I'm actually excited about a bowl game this year.


Mike Bratisax 7 months, 2 weeks ago

What strikes me most in this article is how HCBS already has his eyes on players BEFORE they move up in the rankings. I'm sure most coaches already had had their eyes on these players but how many times has Coach Self found NBA talent from players near or even lower than the top 50?

No other coaches consistently recognizes talent outside the top 50 then Coach Self.

Looking at next year's team, it might be barely recognizable from this year's team. I think it's possible that we could lose four players to the NBA. Wiggins, Selden, Perry Ellis and Joel Embiid. We will also lose Black and Wesley to graduation. This puts a lot of pressure on the coaches to secure some players who will be here for more than one year and possibly a couple of OADs.

I guess that's why he gets paid so much.

And just a throw in, there has been a lot of speculation that possibly HCBS goes to the NBA sometime in the near future. Pure conjecture on my part but I just don't see it. He has the best fans and the top program in the NCAA.


KansasComet 7 months, 2 weeks ago

It's all about a team's talent, chemistry, and confidence. I think under Coach Self that we will continue to be a team mixed with 5 star talent, solid 3-4 year players, and a few "Rudy's" (different sport, but you get the idea). It works, because Coach Self makes it work year in and year out.


iamakufan 7 months, 2 weeks ago

Didn't Self say this Summer that Mason is proving to be far better than he expected? I thought the hullabaloo about him was based on what he's showing now that he's on campus rather than what was thought of him prior to that. Maybe my memory is faulty but that sure rings a bell.


BucknellJayhawk3 7 months, 2 weeks ago

I saw Hunter Mickelson on as a second rounder next year! They also left off Embiid. Well, I do hope Hunter is NBA material, but don't understand quite where the hype comes from for him.


Jack Wilson 7 months, 2 weeks ago

It continues to amaze me that coach Self is really focused on the guys that are ranked in the top 20 or so. Those guys doing the rankings don't know anything, right?

Actually, they don't know anything when we are forced to sign guys that aren't highly ranked.

For all you Mason lovers out there (who haven't seen him play one college game) .. babyphog, kingfisher, Keegan, etc. ... just a friendly reminder that Mason was appx. our 6th choice at point guard (see, Harrison, Barber, Jones, Jordan, Jackson). Not saying he won't be a very good player. He seems like a good signing as our 5th guy in this class. But just a reminder that coach Self, himself, determined that Mason was our appx. 6th choice. He didn't take Mason commitment until the others had committed. Another reason to at least think that Mason's ability as a freshman to unseat Tharpe (a junior) might be just a bit overstated. Maybe.

And our ability to land a top post player might be a bit overstated with the stock of players we already have (and the fact that we won't know until April if Embiid or Ellis is turning pro). Lots of chatter about Elbert Robinson. #52 guy. 7'0", 300 lbs. ... huge guy. Guys in this range usually don't expect to start immediately like an Alexander or Turner will. Might be more realistic. Our best chance with Turner/Alexander may be if they decide in the spring, or if they know something we don't on Ellis/Embiid possibly turning pro.


iamakufan 7 months, 2 weeks ago

Actually, the way the headline is worded it very well could have been about football. It's not saying the top prospects in the nation, although the article certainly is about that. The headline refers to the top Jayhawk prospects are climbing the recruiting ranks. And that could appropriately refer to any sport the Jayhawks are involved with.


Robert Brock 7 months, 2 weeks ago

This is a fluff-piece. KU has a chance with Oubre, Alexander, and Turner. The Hawks are not after Johnson and the Okafor/Jones train departed weeks ago. Bedore is slow.


Boouk 7 months, 2 weeks ago

Unless someone transfers or Embiid and/or Ellis declare for the draft, we'll only have 2 open scholarships. I'm thinking one big and one guard if I'm Self. Either Jones and Okafor or Alexander/Turner and Oubre/Winslow/Rashad Vaughn would keep us atop the Big 12 and in national title contention.


Dee Shaw 7 months, 2 weeks ago

Seeing this headline and you thought it was related to football. That's funny. That just made my day. Can't ever imagine reading an article some day that KU Football is on the list of the Top Prospects in the country. So refreshing that Bill Self and his staff works hard and signs the top talent out there.


Cmill1221 7 months, 2 weeks ago

I saw this and was really hoping it was a football article. Lol. Dont get me wrong, It's always good to see Bill Self is still recruiting quality players.


Steve Zimmerman 7 months, 2 weeks ago

KU will benefit more from Johnson + Winslow package. Jones being #2 is just bogus, simply overrated. Alexander will be a great great recruit to have. Add Zimmerman, KU will rock once again!!


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