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Sunday, October 6, 2013

Keegan

Opinion: Kansas football making same mistakes

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Blowouts happen, but when they feature so many of the same issues that have eaten at the football team getting blown out all year, it’s especially disturbing. You have to wonder why things keep getting worse.

For example, all season the play of the offensive tackles and centers has cheated talented running backs of necessary breathing room to bust big runs and has made quarterback Jake Heaps understand what it’s like to be a fugitive, forever on the run.

But it’s never been as bad as it was in Kansas University’s 54-16 loss to Texas Tech in a Big 12 opener Saturday at Memorial Stadium, all but empty by late in the third quarter.

In what has to be some sort of record for ineptitude, inattentiveness, incredibly undisciplined football, Kansas was flagged for six false-start penalties. Six! Left tackle Aslam Sterling was flagged multiple times, and center Dylan Admire and right tackle Zach Fondal also were penalized for the unforced infraction.

It’s one thing to get shoved up the field, but to cost your team five yards before it ever has a chance to make a play? Six times? In the fourth game, not the first?

Both centers, Admire and Pat Lewandowski, also struggled snapping the ball. Mike Smithburg was shifted from center to guard after the spring game because he couldn’t get the snap down. Who’s next, Gavin Howard? Head coach Charlie Weis said he and offensive line coach Tim Grunhard “were kind of discussing possibilities in the fourth quarter.”

By then, the game had long since been lost, the chances of an upset fading away with a seven-possession stretch that started with a 10-0 lead midway through the first quarter and ended early in the third quarter, by which time the Red Raiders held a 37-10 lead.

During that stretch, Kansas ran 22 plays, picked up one first down and totaled 20 yards. On the eight first-down plays, Heaps completed one of five passes for nine yards, was intercepted once and sacked once. James Sims ran the ball once, gaining two yards, and Michael Cummings lost three yards on a run.

Kansas didn’t score again until Andrew Turzilli removed the moth balls from his helmet and made a great catch near the right boundary of the end zone on a 28-yard throw from Cummings.

“Here was that play,” Weis said, “I called the protection. I called the play. I said, ‘Michael, throw it to him.’ How do you like that for a play? And that’s one of the few ones that worked in the game. Maybe I should do that more often.”

He was joking, but at this point might jokes represent an upgrade? Is it time to make things more simple for the players?

“You’ll see a lot of formations out there, but there are not a lot of plays out there,” Weis said. “We’re already dumbing it down.”

Now it’s time for the offensive coaches and players to get smarter.

Comments

sloppyscience 11 months ago

But hey, we can all sleep well knowing no one had to do a bear crawl.

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Doug Cramer 11 months ago

The three guys we needed most to step up big for this program:

1: Pearce Slater 2: Chris Martin 3: Marquel Combs

This program is in big trouble. The JUCO experiment didn't work. We could of had 6-8 offensive and defensive linemen who are freshmen...getting Holsoppled...and waiting in the wings for playing time the next 4 years.

Now we're left with a bunch of under talented juniors and seniors...that won't have much impact on our program. So where does Charlie go from here ? I think that's the million dollar question.

If we keep getting blown out every week...does he stay with the program...or does he resign ? We can't fire him...we've already had to payout Mangino, Perkins, and Gill. Can we really afford to pay Weis out...AND...hire another coach ??? I doubt it.

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gorilla10 11 months ago

Are you serious right now? This team is 2-2 and all of a sudden the JUCO experiment didn't work? I'm so tired of uneducated fans like yourself trying to feed bs into all of us. Do you know how many JUCO guys are making an impact on the team? Do you know how many are redshirts and will contribute next year? Saying the JUCO experiment has failed at 2-2 following a game that coaching killed us is a joke.......

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kansas22 11 months ago

I have to lean towards agreeing with Table Rock here. Have you not watched the games? We're 2-2 by nothing more than a miracle. Take away the 2 fumbles Louisiana Tech lost inside our own 5 yard line and we lose at home to them and sitting at 1-3 and over a 20 game losing streak to FBS teams. This team doesn't look good in any shape or form. If you think we're going to win more than one more game for the rest of the season, I'd like to have a little more of whatever you're smoking/drinking. The JuCo players we've recruited don't look like they are going to be bringing us any extra wins this year and to say that the experiment is looking like a success would just be being blindly and irrationally optimistic. 2-10 looks like the most likely end to this season, with 3-9 an outside chance. I just don't see where we're getting another win from. Then, next year, we have a very Senior-laden team with little talent and a garbage o-line. To say the absolute least, the experiment does not appear to be going splendidly. And yes, we don't have the option of firing Weis before his contract is up because we can't continue to just eat our money everytime a hire backfires. This program looks to be in quite possibly the worst shape it's ever been in and I don't know when it will get any better. Still... Have to keep up the support. Only way to promote a positive change. I'll be front row for the next slaughter at the hands of Oklahoma

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danno1313 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Gorilla, I m trying to figure what JUCO players are making an impact on this team. (a positive impact that is) I m not sure a 40 plus point blow out is about, "Coaching." When do the players on this team grab their sacks and started playing like they are in D1, (or whatever it's called now) and not it junior high school? I agree CW has been less than impressive but he hasn't been any more of a let down than the five star qb that can't complete a pass or an offensive line that couldn't block a station wagon full of nuns! I won't even go into the secondary issues, they appear to be running with refrigerators strapped to their backs! Players have to play!

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Doug Cramer 11 months ago

gorilla - here are some specifics. I'm mainly talking about the boys in the trenches when stating that the JUCO experiment didn't work. I agree with you that we have some JUCO guys in the secondary that added some improvement. Here are the specifics that I'm talking about:

O-line: - Aslam Sterling (SR)...not performing well. - Fusimalohi (JR)...not performing well. - Smithburg (JR)...not performing well. - Fondal (JR)...not performing well. - Slater...Went back to California.

D-LINE: - Martin...Got arrested. - Combs...Left the program. - Tavai (SR) ...not talented enough for the Big 12. - McKinney (JR)...not talented enough for the Big 12. - Tedarian Johnson (JR)...not making an impact. - Stowers (JR)...has upside...but hasn't pressured QBs yet.

OK...now I'm looking at the underclassmen that we have on the lines:

D-Line:...We got nobody waiting in the wings. Goodman and Reynolds are already playing...and seem to be getting better. Other than that...Tyler Homes and Neal Page are the only Freshman D-linemen waiting in the wings. This is gonna set this program back.

There MIGHT be more hope for the future of the O-line:

  • Bloomfield FR...hasn't played yet
  • Gallo (FR)...hasn't played yet
  • Beckmann (FR)...hasn't played yet
  • Connolly (FR)...hasn't played yet
  • Gibson (FR)...hasn't played yet

Again...for the betterment of the program...an investment toward talented freshmen in the trenches would prepare us for the future as opposed to taking a chance on the JUCO guys.

The future of both lines doesn't look good...particularly the D-line.

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Rivethead 11 months ago

With 3 down linemen, it's impractical to expect Stowers to pressure the QB. Stowers job is simple: tie up as many OL as he can and plug a running lane. It's the buck, LBs, or Safeties job to pressure the QB.

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Micky Baker 11 months ago

Dismissed. Go back to your mommy's basement.

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741hawk 11 months ago

It's too early to junk the JuCo experiment. Teams that are successful with it get to a point where most JuCos are redshirted, giving them a year to be in the program to get stronger/faster and learn the plays/system before they are asked to perform on the field. We are not there yet. Most of ours were thrown into the fire . . . maybe a reason #99 missed his block on the fake punt. Pardula could have run 40 yards if that block had been made. Just sayin'!

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BringBackMark 11 months ago

Wouldn't it be better to eventually get to a point where you recruit freshman, redshirt them, and then have them for a full four years? Sure, fill a hole once in awhile with a juco player but don't try to quick fix the program with them. Take your lumps (as we are anyway) and build it the right way. Fans will be patient with that approach.

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741hawk 11 months ago

I'm not so certain that fans will be patient. Surely you have been reading this board.

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Jeremy Bolinger 11 months ago

Wow. You don't recruit juco kids to redshirt them. You recruit them to play. If you want to redshirt a kid, recruit a freshman. Juco kids provide college ready bodies. That's why you recruit them. Unbelievable at some of the excuses people make for Charlie.

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Micky Baker 11 months ago

But you are a bandwagon fan.

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BringBackMark 10 months, 4 weeks ago

You don't get it. It has nothing to do with being a bandwagon fan. In fact, quite the opposite. Those of us that are appalled at the juco movement want a long term, established program. Not a mish-mash "try this and try that" program. I don't know where you're coming from but obviously you have very little knowledge of building a college football program.

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Jim Erickson 11 months ago

The season is still young, and a lot can happen, but as of now this team has not shown progress since the Turner Gill regime. To be fair, this is a very small sample size, but the quick turnaround we were looking for certainly isn't there.

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Jeremy Bolinger 11 months ago

16 games is plenty of sample size if you're looking for the things it takes to be successful. This team has more talent than 3 wins in the past 2 years. We don't play in the SEC. Come on now. Charlie is an offensive coach by trade. To say this offense has looked like garbage would be an insult to garbage. This team has no discipline and no leadership.

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Danny Hernandez 11 months ago

Maybe we shouldn't have been looking for a quick turnaround

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Robert Brown 11 months ago

Dannyboy- I agree with you but unfortunately the coaching staff decided and thought they could turns things around quickly. Why bring Dayne Crist and other transfers in last year if you didn't think you could make a quick turnaround? Why bring in 20 JUCO players? Weis thought he could turn this around quickly.

Had he outlined a plan of bringing in high school players who fit the system indicating that the the first few years would be tough, I think people would have bought into that. That is why a new coach has the security of a long term contract.

Every move that Weis made gave the fans the impression that he could turn this around quicker.

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BringBackMark 10 months, 4 weeks ago

You are so right. He built this house of cards himself. We were all ready to give him 4 or 5 years to do it right. Instead we've seen bonehead transfer move after bonehead transfer move. Sorry, the honeymoon runs out quick when there appears to be know clue how to build for the long term.

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jhox 11 months ago

I'm not sure how a guy who is just a few years removed from being the brightest offensive mind in the NFL, can do such a poor job coordinating a college offense, and calling plays.

It is pretty clear to me that the best offensive minds are coaching college football, not pro football. It's time for Charlie to bring in a bright young offensive coordinator because, clearly, what's happening offensively on the college level has passed him by.

This is not the time to fire him. He needs at least one or two more years, but on the condition that he hire an offensive coordinator. I like some things he's done with the program, and he deserves a chance to finish what he's started. We have to get out of this coaching musical chairs game we've been playing. The juco /transfer experiment isn't the total bust that some believe it is. There are guys contributing, despite some of the higher profile busts.

I'm far from ready to replace Heaps, he's played ok given how poor our line play has been, but if we're going to run a two QB system lets take the red shirt off of Cozart. Cummings is not a passer. Let Cozart come in and run a little read option. Let him throw a few passes when the defense expects run.

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Robert Brown 11 months ago

I have concluded that Weis is a best at selling Charlie Weis. If you look at his actual accomplishments, you do not see anything that indicates he was the right person to coach KU. His greatest accomplishment was being the OC when Tom Brady was forced to replace the injured Drew Bledsoe. Weis takes credit for Brady's development! but I think Brady would have been successful regardless of his OC.

Weis got progressively worse at ND and was fired. He had early success with predecessor's recruits and was viewed as arrogant and egotistical at the time. So much so that many people delighted in his downfall.

Some how Weis was able to sell himself to Zenger and Zenger bit. Now we have no alternative but to see how this plays out. As a long time KU fan, I've sen this before and the ending is not pretty.

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jhox 11 months ago

If you're going to suggest things got progressively worse at ND while he was there, but say his early successes were the result of his predecessor's recruits, then you have to turn around and give him credit for recruiting much of the core of last year's ND team that made it to the BCS championship game.

I do agree with many of your points, especially the one about his talent at selling Charlie Weis, but I don't think there is any denying the fact that he brought in talent to ND. Of course, we all know that's a pretty easy job.

But it is also fair to say he's done a nice job of bringing in higher profile recruits than KU has a right to be bringing in given our lack of success in recent years. They may not all be panning out, but a lot of these guys were kids that other good programs wanted.

I'm not ready to give up on him yet, but he does need to let the ego go and hire a new offensive coordinator, so he can manage other aspects of the program and be free of that responsibility.

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BringBackMark 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Wow, I want what you're smoking. "These guys were kids that other good programs wanted"...... I didn't see any other "good programs" knocking down the door for Dayne Crist or Jake Heaps. What about the (what's his name that transferred from Oklahoma)? We've lost 7 of the 20 juco players that took up space for freshman. About 10 of the others have already shown why they ended up at juco's. Zenger will have to let him go after 2-10 this season. Then we'll see if he really deserved this big raise he got.

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jhox 10 months, 4 weeks ago

I believe our class was ranked in the top 30 by some ratings groups. Considering we were not even a top 100 team, I'll stand by that comment. The juco guys haven't all worked out, but that's the risk with juco guys. It is a risk that had to be taken because we needed immediate help.

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Eric TheCapn 11 months ago

"Getting blown out all year"? Do you mean last year? Because I'm pretty sure this was the first blowout this year and just the second loss. Your whole lead is confusing.

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Eric TheCapn 11 months ago

P.S. Where did everyone's avatar go?

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Jonathan Allison 11 months ago

p>KUsports.com decided that it was time for people to choose new avatars, so they made all of the avatars disappear. You can re-upload the same one that you had before. You can choose a new one. Or you can go incognito.

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Bryce Landon 11 months ago

I'm still using my Jayhawk helmet avatar.

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Jeremy Bolinger 11 months ago

Losing to teams like Rice, and barely getting by Lousiana Tech is the equivalent of a blow out. What do you take from those kinds of wins, besides the fact that KU football is broken?

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Gary Amble 11 months ago

Mangino recruited football players, not body types. We have a team full of 4.5 / 40 guys but when the whistle blows the only guy moving is Ben Heeney. Maybe we should compete in the flag football league.

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nuleafjhawk 11 months ago

You have to run fast in flag football too.

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edmondjayhawk 11 months ago

jhox mentioned that we have to get out of this "coaching musical chairs" thing. How about Charie getting out of this QB musical chairs thing. In my opinion, the offense starting sputtering when he brought Cummings in to run the option. That's when the false start penalties and the bad snaps from center started. The offense totally got out of rhythm and the momentum was gone. Heaps and the offense looked like they had things going in the right direction until the QB platoon system started. Why mess up a good thing?

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741hawk 11 months ago

Good observation. Very plausible re QB change. It's possible that Charlie sees that he is under-manned and is doing everything he can to creatively give KU an edge. Unfortunately, many of these things have back-fired. Maybe we would be better off playing our best players and simplifying things.

BTW, I like what Campo has done with the defense. When you look at his resume, how could he not be successful as a college DC? We should hope he stays awhile. The longer players are in his system, the better they'll play.

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danno1313 10 months, 4 weeks ago

How many pts did KU's defense give up Saturday? Campo's defense looked pretty good against the weak sisters KU played the first three games. They ll be lucky to keep the teams remaining on the schedule under 30 pts a game. Especially since KU's offenses leads the world in three and outs. Pitiful!!

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jhox 11 months ago

I don't think anyone in the stadium liked the musical QB's. We've seen Cummings, and I've been underwhelmed. If we are going to play musical QB's, at least let's see someone different. I've heard great things about Cozart since his early days in high school.

Heaps has been pretty good when given time to pass and when receivers have gotten open. Not perfect, but certainly a big upgrade from last year.

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Savion Havon 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Cummings was at the helm when we were actually competitive last year. If you go back and watch the ok state fame the tag line was he's a pocket passer who can't run . Texas game one int away from winning Fast forward after the tech game oh wait he can run . HCCW hands over the keys to Heaps ala Crist and now we are in love with average qb play. Let's compete you want a dual threat qb but you handcuff the one you have. This spring game saw the best passes coming off the arm of the runner not the passer . The plays we scored on were set up and sustained by the runner handed off to the passer and bingo. A pair of plays stick out to me jake jumping around the Vaud snap michael running b ck snatching it off the ground and trying to hit McCay down field

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jhox 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Weis was afraid to let Cummings or Crist throw the ball last year. About their only job was to hand it off.

I suggest Cozart because he can definitely run, something that would be of value behind our terrible O line.

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 11 months ago

I know, I know, I knwo!!!!!! I know what is wrong!!!!

Basketball has already started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dhinkansas 11 months ago

Hard to turn a program around when 25,000 people show up and Homecoming hype is over basketball practice. Yes, it was an early start and yes, I got cold in the lot before the game started, but overall, it turned out to be a nice day.

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KCPRGuy 11 months ago

And it's hard to get more than 25k people to show up when the product you are putting on the field is not Big 12 worthy.

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Al Martin 11 months ago

Okay, I was there, and it was actually a pretty good sized crowd. It was an early game, and people arrived late. It was pretty sparse at kickoff, but by mid-first quarter both sides were nearly full and the bowl had a reasonable representation. I would guess between 35K and 40K by the time it filled out.

This 25,000 number needs to be squashed. It just isn't true.

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Robert Brown 11 months ago

The 25,000 is what is being reported. Matt mentioned it in one of his articles. I found the total to be very surprising. That figure also shows up in the box score (see link). The KU Athletic Department reports the attendance.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332782305

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Robert Brown 11 months ago

I just pulled the box score from the KU Athletics Dept website which also says attendance was 25,000. They have zero incentive to report a low number. This is bad. I looked up attendance and the last time attendance for a home game was this low was the last game in 2001 against Wyoming. I think we had an interim coach who replaced Terry Allen. I have to assume it was a cold day and a non descript opponent. Not homecoming,playing a conference opponent.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/kuathletics.com/documents/2013/10/5/100513_KUvsTTU.pdf?id=624

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BringBackMark 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Actually, that was a meaningless game that had been re-scheduled due to 9/11. There was a debate over whether to postpone or cancel and it should've been cancelled given the circumstances. If you think that was dismal wait until Novermber 30, 2013.

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jhox 10 months, 4 weeks ago

KU did correct it to 35,000 citing an error in reporting to the press box. It did look to me to be more like 35,000 (at least until the second quarter, and by games end maybe 1,000, if that. Even the players' parents left early.

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danno1313 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Do you go back to restaurants that have crappy food and service? Do you see awful movies over and over at the theater? Me either. It's tough to lay out the cash for the current product on the field. IF KU fans see actual IMPROVEMENT, they will show up. More than two wins this season would be an a slight improvement. I don't see it happening. KU has won all the games they re going to win this season. I would like to be wrong.

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LakeShawnee 11 months ago

This is a very nice piece from Keegan. I honestly thought he mailed it in this weekend with the piece on the botched fake punt, but this is a good piece. I agree that the problem here is coaching. Not pointing the finger directly at Weis, but the O-Line not being able to block or fail to not false start is not a talent issue, it's a coaching/work issue.

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namohcan_99 11 months ago

"You have to wonder why things keep getting worse." I wish Keegan would have tried to tackle this statement in his first paragraph. Instead he just described the symptoms. To quote Melvin Udall from As Good As It Gets, "I'm drowning here, and you're describing the water!"

But yes, there are problems here and the line is a huge problem for us. It seems we put all of our egg's into Smithburg being our starting center and it has not materialized the way they wanted it to.

Our offense sucks. We have great RBs, but what's the point of having them if we are looking at games like Saturday?

I think fans should be hard on Weis. Where is the Offensive Coordinator? I can't see where it would hurt this program to have another coach who is there to help the offense. Specifically with the line and maybe our wide receivers because in some areas we are seeing no improvement or in some cases with our line, more problems.

Are we so strapped for cash we couldn't go out and get an Offensive Coordinator or is it that Weis thought he could do it all? It's apparent, Weis can't do it all. He needs help. I know I personally am disappointed seeing someone like James Sims with a chance to go into the Kansas record books as being the best back to step on the field at KU be thrown away quite literally by this inept passing game and questionable coaching schemes.

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Enoughsaid 11 months ago

KU Football, what a joke. Its pretty sad when Coach Weis calls last years team a Pile of Crap. Its funny the media has a new name for this year team, The Walking Dead. The Athletic Department should fire Zenger for hiring Weis and fire Weis because he is a pile of crap.

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milehighhawk 11 months ago

Good article, Tom.

Nice to see it when writers articulate the sentiment of the fanbase instead of just being a PR megaphone for the team.

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Mike Nicco 11 months ago

In-game adjustments...the other team makes them better than we do/don't.

To me, this game was typical Charlie Weis at the college level. Great initial game plan, other team's defense adjusts and Charlie has no answer.

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Michael Leiker 11 months ago

Charlie just seems sloppier and sloppier to me the more I see and hear of him. Been to the last few Hawk Talks at Salty live and he mumbles, can barely hear what he is saying. His appearance is sloppy, not necessarily talking about the overweight piece, but just how he dresses, carries himself. I understand he's had surgeries and has a limp, but dang it he just does not come across as a guy capable of getting a lot of toughness and attention to detail out of 18-22 year olds. He goes off on tangents, seems to be more interested in talking about the people he knows in the NFL than he does about his own team.

Really trying hard to get behind this and I honestly do see improvement out there, but the lack of discipline just kills me. I think there are a bunch of kids out there playing really hard and I do wish KU Fans would support that piece of it and get behind those kids.

Charlie needs to tighten his game up, as it goes along he seems to get looser and more comfortable even as his team continues to perform poorly.

Does anybody really get the feel that he's truly at his core upset about what's going on? I don't see it or hear it.

This idea that you can scheme your way to success just isn't the case. We all have experience on what really works in developing young low to mid level recruits into disciplined, assignment sound football players and I'm definitely not convinced Charlie has that ability.

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FCCoHawk 11 months ago

My two cents...First, our OL is bad, real bad. My question is, why are we constantly rotating players? I can see that maybe in the first week or two, but now? Injuries can be an issue also but I don't think that is the case. I have always heard that the line needs to know what the other is doing without having to ask, a very tight group of players. The most successful lines are ones that have been together for several seasons. It would seem to be better to evaluate the players, pick the best we have and stay with the unit, giving them a chance to work together and improve as a unit. It can't be good to keep moving them in and out of positions as each player is different and upsets the mix. I had high expectations for our OL coach due to his pro background, but maybe he can't communicate well or get the line motivated, who knows. Second, why are we having so many penalties this yr? Last yr we had very few and it was actually a positive. It seemed the players were being coached well and we were just going to have to wait to get better talent in the system. This year, total opposite. Thirdly, I do think our defense is better this year, still a ways to go but improving. Finally, I won't give up on the 'Hawks this yr. It is early to look to next year, but I expect a much better team next yr with all the returning players or it might be back to basketball only for me. I have drank the kool aid the last couple years (and was trying to be optimistic w/ our previous coach) and am getting tired of the disappointments each and every year. it is more painful than ever to hang in there as a fan. We are not as bad as K-state was before Snyder but we are sure trying to get there. Anyone know what the prospects are for the OL next year? Hopefully we have some guys that are red shirting that will help.

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FCCoHawk 11 months ago

Sorry, must have missed the posts earlier with the upcoming talent on OL

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Andy Tweedy 11 months ago

I didn't have a big problem with the "pile of crap" comments made by Weiss, last season's play earned it. But that's a dangerous road to go down. Calling the play in year one of your regime a "pile of crap" is easy because it's pretty clear to everyone that you're pointing the finger at just about everybody but yourself. So what will be said next year if we finish 2013 playing like this and get out of the gate this way next year? If the "pile of crap" comment sticks, there will be nobody to point the finger at but the head coach. I hope that doesn't happen...but right now, I'm not seeing a lot of reasons to think it won't!

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Dyrk Dugan 11 months ago

it was a bad game....disappointing to say the least. i sat thru the whole thing.

the o line is bad, yes....false starts? way too many....but how about the offensive system itself? Charlie comes out 5 wide, and we're down the football field for 120 yards and 10 points...and then nothin. ran Cummings out there.....Heaps tried to throw swing pass to Sims....we NEVER throw to the wideouts (are they open? i don't know frankly...maybe they are, maybe they aren't).

i really thought we would compete this game.....our head coach and d coordinator, dwarf the coaching experience of Kliff Kingsbury...but it didn't mean a thing. and don't talk to me about a huge disparity in talent....that's two frosh QBs in at TTech that both killed us.

all this being said, i've said since the beginning of the year, we're still a year away. with all the JUCO kids that have either been removed from the team because of demotion, academics, or have been injured, the cavalry really didn't come this year.

we can't fire this football coach...for better or worse, he's here for at least two more years after this one. maybe we settle down on the o line....maybe SZ makes him get an offensive coordinator. i wouldn't mind HCCW being the coordinator too...if he would run the pro style offense all the time! we have a dropback QB, great RBs...and we go five wide....or put in the "Jayhawk' formation package, or .....whatever. it's just so darn frustrating to watch, is all i know. yes, we moved the ball with the 5 wide, and i don't think TTech was ready for it...but then we go away from it. where is the belief, that you have a system, and then run ALL plays from it....which would include the pro style offense? But if we go five wide, then DO IT!

God help us when we host OU and Baylor. they may beat us a combined 150-20.

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BringBackMark 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Hat's off to your non-emotional approach to breaking down the KU program. Here's a couple of things to think about:

1) If Zenger can't fire Weis, he equally can't extend his contract. That means that after this year Weis will only have 3 years left on his contract. That becomes an almost impossible scenario to recruit under. The only players that want to come play for a lame duck coach are more juco's.

2) I think you're confusing the "pro style" offense with what most Big 12 schools run today. The 5 wideouts was not the pro style that Weis seems so fond of. That's a spread offense meant for a mobile, play making, quarterback. Cummings is much better suited to run the spread but I have to agree that the way he was used against TT made no sense.

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FinalFinal 10 months, 4 weeks ago

We are as stupid and inept in football, as we are special and proficient in basketball.

A comedy of errors program. Lew Perkins killed any hope we had at being decent in football.

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mahkmood 10 months, 4 weeks ago

This is a great article by Keegan. I'm thankful that the media is beginning to use its influence to - hopefully - evoke positive improvements / change.

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clovis_sangrail 10 months, 4 weeks ago

I think they should enclose the south end of the stadium, fill it with water, and use it to re-enact ancient naval battles.

I would pay good money to see The Battle of Actium on the Plains.

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