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Iowa State defeats Kansas, 34-0

  • 7 p.m., Nov. 23, 2013
  • Jack Trice Stadium, Ames, IA

Saturday, November 23, 2013

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Jayhawks regress in 34-0 loss at Iowa State

Iowa State defenders collapse around James Sims during the first quarter on Saturday, Nov. 23, 2013 at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames, Iowa.

Iowa State defenders collapse around James Sims during the first quarter on Saturday, Nov. 23, 2013 at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames, Iowa.

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Charlie Weis explains how the field impacted play in KU's 34-0 loss to Iowa State

KU football coach Charlie Weis explains how the field impacted play in KU's 34-0 loss to Iowa State

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Iowa State 34, Kansas 0

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— Saturday night at frigid Jack Trice Stadium, Kansas University’s football team went back in time.

Unfortunately for the Jayhawks, however, the DeLorean did not travel back quite far enough, and instead of evoking memories and hopes of the Kansas teams that reached back-to-back bowl games behind an exciting and mobile quarterback, the Jayhawks merely went back a few weeks and more closely resembled the team that, earlier this year, could not get anything going on offense and left its defense on the field way too long.

There were a half-dozen factors that could explain KU’s 34-0 loss to one-win Iowa State. From cold temperatures and bad footing to unlucky breaks and missed opportunities, the Jayhawks who looked oh-so-good in an upset victory over West Virginia last week looked more like a team destined to start another long conference losing streak than one trying to start a rare winning streak.

“I’m as disappointed this week as I was excited last week,” KU senior center Gavin Howard said. “This is one of the most disappointing losses I’ve had in my career here, and I honestly don’t know how it happened.”

It’s not like this was a typical Big 12 juggernaut the Jayhawks were facing. Iowa State entered the game last in the Big 12 in scoring defense and second-to-last in the conference in scoring offense. Instead of becoming KU’s second victim in a feel-good finish to another rough season, the Cyclones rose up and became the first team to pitch a shutout against the Jayhawks since Texas in 2011.

It’s not like the Jayhawks were completely overmatched from start to finish. In fact, despite giving up big chunks of yards and failing to hit any big plays of their own, the Jayhawks (3-8 overall, 1-7 Big 12) did enough on defense in the first half to keep the game within reach. Five times KU moved into ISU territory. But five times, miscues or a frozen gas pedal turned the Jayhawks away without scoring.

“I was very frustrated that we were able to move the ball into plus territory but kept coming up empty,” Weis said.

Iowa State, which racked up 178 yards on just 17 plays in the first quarter, failed to capitalize on its final three drives of the half, tossing an interception on one drive, going three-and-out on the next and running out of time on the last after intercepting freshman quarterback Montell Cozart in the end zone to end another potential Kansas scoring drive.

KU’s offense in the first half looked completely different depending upon what plays were called. When Sims touched the ball, the Jayhawks’ offensive line gashed the Cyclones up front and helped Sims rumble for 96 yards on 15 carries during the first two quarters. On nearly all of the other plays, however, Cozart either overthrew receivers or scrambled into and out of trouble but never did enough to damage the Cyclones defense by himself.

“We just couldn’t finish,” Howard said. “You gotta give them credit. They buckled down once we got to their side of the field.”

On one first-half drive, a scrambling Cozart missed a sure touchdown by electing to follow his blocking to the right instead of cutting it back to the wide-open patch of turf to the left. On another, KU’s drive stalled when Cozart nonchalantly ran out of bounds just short of the first-down sticks on third-and-nine after scurrying for positive yardage.

Weis challenged the spot, but the call on the field stood.

Weis said the challenge was merely an attempt to settle his team down, since he planned on going for it on fourth-and-one anyway.

“They were saying, ‘Go for it, go for it, go for it,’ which was probably pretty stupid at the time because it was a 10-0 game, and we could’ve gone into halftime with a 10-3 game,” he said.

Instead of converting, ISU (2-9, 1-7) stuffed Sims (114 yards on 21 carries) up the middle, and KU never threatened again.

Iowa State held KU to a three-and-out on the opening drive of the third quarter and then threw up 17 straight points to turn a 10-0 game heading into the third into a 27-0 runaway heading into the fourth.

Weis played Cozart and former starter Jake Heaps at quarterback in the second half, but neither could get anything going. Not that either got much help.

“What’d we drop, six passes?” Weis asked. “We might have set a world record for most dropped passes in the shortest amount of time. When you don’t make plays in the passing game at all and your runs are going to be direct runs rather than getting to the edge, you’re in a heap of trouble, and that’s what ended up happening.

“I’m not shocked. I’m very, very disappointed. There was no evidence in practice or in warm-ups that we were going to do anything but play very well, and we didn’t.”

Comments

Craig Carr 4 months, 3 weeks ago

OK is 5 steps above the last 4 years! We wouldn't be a top 20 FCS program

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John Waszak 4 months, 3 weeks ago

I don't think Young is a hater. Just to many people with Rose color glasses on about Mangino.

This was my post a couple months back. Look at his tenure with us outside of the Orange Bowl season, as magical as it was.

After 40 years of watching KU football I'm amazed at the people that want the big guy back. This is why the Kansas program has never been consistently competitive. I liked watching the Fighting Manginos as much as everyone. They were aggressive, scrappy and just generally fun to attend and watch. But, let's be realistic. The Hawks under Mangino were 50-48 overall in 8 seasons. ONLY 3 winning seasons. (don't go crazy about 4 bowls - really? most 6-6 teams get a bowl) Worse, they were 23-41 in conference with ONLY 7 conference road wins (4 during the magical Orange Bowl season). There was ONLY 1 +.500 conference season (again O Bowl season). And finally, 4 conference seasons with 0 conference wins. Take away the Orange Bowl season and there would have been screams for his firing. Would KU nation allow the Basketball program get to the big dance only 50% of the time, never win our conference, etc, etc. So, why be complacent with wanting to bring back a coach that honestly coached KU to the bottom half of the conference Consistently and had one great year (and I think the Orange Bowl season was a perfect storm, with a great DC - Young and OC - Warinner). So, let's move on from the good, and for 1 season, great memories.

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Stephen Young 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Charlie Weis WILL turn this program around. But doing things the right way takes time, and the "talent hole" he inherited--from Mangino, who left the cupboard bare, to say nothing of the Gill debacle--was far deeper than most KU fans seem to recognize. Patience is a virtue. We'll do better than three wins next year.

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John Fitzgerald 4 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm not going to say Weis needs to be fired after this game, I'm just going to say I'm deeply dissappointed. This game truely dictates how much work that is still needed for next year. We will need help at the offensive line, receiving core, and QB. Also, our offensive strategy is something that needs to be fixed because playing the 2nd worst team in the Big 12 (we're now the worst) and not scoring a single point is, to say the least, concerning. I get that the field was icey and it was cold outside, but our ground and pound game actually should have benefited. I think it was poor game planning and the players assuming since they beat WVU this was going to be a cake walk. That's a horrible attitude to have, and it reflects Weis's ability to prepare these guys. Like Joe Ross, I agree he will get a 3rd year and I'm sure we will slowly see some improvement, but needless to say Weis's work will surely be cut out for him this offseason. I like Weis and I truely respect him, which is why I really want him to succeed and turn our program around. I have faith in the big guy even if I'm thorougly dissappointed at the moment.

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Erich Hartmann 4 months, 3 weeks ago

The KU receivers need to apologize to Heaps (& Weis) for not catching balls that hit them in the hands (!!!) while IowaState WRs were catching in the same weather. And this crew (other than Mundine) cannot catch in good weather either. No Pierson, either, sadly. We better find our offense vs. KState, if that is possible.

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Joe Ross 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Weis will come back next year, to the dismay of anyone who wants him fired. I think he's earned a third year. If he improves 2 games a season, next year we will have 5 wins (doable with the schedule--but we're still washing lettuce). The year after that it's 7, which is graduating up to fries. A year after that? 9 wins. And THAT'S where the big bucks come rolling in.

Seriously. Weis is staying put. If I'm AD I set the mark at 5 games. Demanding four wins doesn't show a dedication to establishing a solid football program. It's gotta be five, and you gotta have 'em. All the talk of firing Weis is best postponed one year.

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Jim Jackson 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Subsequent to this season, Weis is owed 7.5 million over the next 3 years; he is not going anywhere. Furthermore, not to make excuses for this team because we looked like crap all around, but ISU did seem to have way better footing/ cleats than we did, the entire game.

Our guys were constantly slipping and the advantage of having Cozart as a duel threat was nullified as we he could not run the read-option or scramble. He had a couple of good runs but that was it.

I sincerely hope Charlie and Co. are hitting the JUCOs for immediate impact players as this team needs help & depth at almost every position. We need immediate impact 20-21 years who are physically mature enough to contribute on day 1.

Worked very well for Mangino & Snyder.

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Doug Cramer 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Agree Kellerman - Z is taking a huge risk if he brings W back. I for one will not be attending any games next year if Weis is back.

This is the most undisciplined football teams I've ever seen. Playing disciplined football comes directly from the coaching staff and their training strategies.

Not only did Cozart run out of bounds shy of the sticks...there was another play that he had a clear path to the inzone...but decided to run toward a hand full of defenders. Even the announcers pointed it out in a replay.

We don't don't play smart football...and we are undisciplined. This is a coaching issue.

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Jason Keller 4 months, 3 weeks ago

This game was one of the more embarrassing ones over the last few years and that's saying something. KU has lost, a lot, but Iowa State is not a good football team. Iowa State is a bad football team and they beat the crap out of us.

I'm just not sure you can bring Weis back for a 3rd year. In two years, you aren't looking for them to have turned the program around already but you are looking to see how disciplined the team is and how the coach's first year of recruits have panned out. It's been a mixed bag on the recruits but this team is terrible undisciplined and simply don't seem to understand the game of football. I almost puked when Cozart randomly ran out of bounds on 3rd down when he had an easy path past the sticks. Like I said, the kids simply don't play smart football.

Bringing Weis back would be a HUGE risk for Zenger. If this team wins 2 games next year with Weis leading, Zenger's job will immediately be in jeopardy.

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W Keith Swinehart II 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Better preparation for the prevailing cold and icing conditions by ISU. Shoes, simple plays, no sweeps, better patterns, softer throws. See Keegan opinion piece about shoe bottoms. Old pro teams used 'em. Should consult our suppliers about this.

FOX commentators kept harping about ISU player toughness. Baloney. Not toughness or macho stuff. They were simply better prepared to play in the ice. I hope we learn that lesson.

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Joe Ross 4 months, 3 weeks ago

It's not just that Kansas lost to Iowa State. It's the manner in which they did it. Sucker punch to the gut if you were looking at this game as an opportunity for Kansas.

Can't blame the weather. Both teams had to play in it.

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Brett McCabe 4 months, 3 weeks ago

The game turned when...Weis didn't kick the field goal and then followed up the interception with yet another attempt to "go over the top" on first down. Kick two field goals on those two possessions, we're in the game and maybe something good happens. Weis followed those decisions to have Pardula punt on the 4th and 4 when it was an obvious go-for-it situation.

Every single game, I just sit there shaking my head on the decision-making.

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Craig Carr 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Who cares! Drop the program. No real coach would ever take the job after the whining from players and subsequent firing of a coach who won a BCS bowl game. Weis just makes excuses, let Self recruit for the team and hire a real coach.

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Michael Sillman 4 months, 3 weeks ago

I am a great believer in financial incentives for coaches. That being said there should also be penalties when a team puts out a stinker like today. Every coach should give some dollars back after this one.

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John Waszak 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Someone please explain to me Taylor Cox tweeting during the game. He is still on the roster isn't he? On the sideline? In uniform? No wonder why this team has no fire, no heart, no discipline... lacks the basics of catching, tackling, etc. Head is not in the game. No way there is any focus in practice or film room or weight room if they are too busy tweeting from the sideline. WOW!

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Suzi Marshall 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Some help is on the way for Kansas Football. Tyler Patrick, WR The Woodlands HS and Kansas recruit, came through with a little over a minute to go in the game with a 44 yd reception to the 1 yard line that allowed The Woodlands to take a 24-23 lead on Round Rock in the Class 5A Division I Area playoff. With no time left on the clock, Patrick then blocked Round Rock’s 37-yard game winning field goal attempt. The Woodlands advance to play Allen HS, the undefeated and defending Texas 5A champions. Kansas has a good one in Patrick.

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