Oklahoma State defeats Kansas, 42-6

  • 3 p.m., Nov. 9, 2013
  • Boone Pickens Stadium, Stillwater, OK

Saturday, November 9, 2013

Jayhawks deflated from start of 36-point road loss

OSU's 100-yard kickoff return puts KU in hole for good

Kansas quarterback Montell Cozart hangs his head as he walks off the field following the Jayhawks' 42-6 loss to Oklahoma State on Saturday, Nov. 9, 2013 at Boone Pickens Stadium in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Kansas quarterback Montell Cozart hangs his head as he walks off the field following the Jayhawks' 42-6 loss to Oklahoma State on Saturday, Nov. 9, 2013 at Boone Pickens Stadium in Stillwater, Oklahoma.


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Charlie Weis post-game press conference after 42-6 loss at Oklahoma State

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— Thirteen seconds. That's all it took the Oklahoma State football team to demonstrate that Saturday would belong to the Cowboys and not the Jayhawks, who dropped their 27th consecutive Big 12 game, 42-6, in front of 58,476 fans at Boone Pickens Stadium.

The revelation really took less time than that, as it was clear about six seconds into Justin Gilbert's game-opening 100-yard kickoff return that started the scoring that OSU's burner was gone.

“When you're playing a game to try to keep it into a certain point range and you start off with that one, it was a little deflating,” said KU coach Charlie Weis following the loss. “It was still just one play, but can you pick a worse way to start a game?”

Added KU cornerback Cassius Sendish, who watched the return from the bench while waiting to take the field: “You can't let (13) seconds dictate the whole game. It's a 60-minute ball game. Plays are gonna happen, the other team's gonna make big plays and we gotta make big plays, as well.”

So lopsided was Saturday's match-up with the 14th-ranked team in the country, that freshman kicker Ben Grogan's extra point that followed Gilbert's gallop proved to be the game winner.

Weis, who had one of the best views in the house of the Gilbert return, described what he saw.

“A couple guys got kicked out, one guy got locked onto the block and the guys on the back side didn't come over the top,” he said. “You could see it materializing. Unfortunately, it was right in front of me.”

Gilbert, who entered the day averaging 21.2 yards per kickoff return, explained what went through his mind as he caught his breath.

“There's no better way to start a game,” said the senior from Huntsville, Texas. “Especially with Barry Sanders in the building.”

Sanders, the NFL Hall of Famer and former Oklahoma State standout, was in attendance as part of a celebration of OSU's 1988 squad. While the opening play may have been the game's biggest highlight, the Cowboys (8-1 overall, 5-1 Big 12) made sure to give the former Detroit Lion plenty more to be proud of throughout the afternoon.

At the time, the Cowboys did not know that seven points was all they would need. And they played like it, racing out to a 28-0 halftime lead and putting together all six touchdown drives in just 7:37 combined minutes.

Each OSU drive took less than two minutes off the clock, with the shortest non-kick-return drive taking just 1:16 and the longest 1:51.

“They had a bunch of big plays,” Weis said. “They threw the ball over the top of us all day, and that really hasn't been happening. They had a bunch of chunks in the passing game and none of them were short ones.”

KU's first-half numbers weren't all bad. The Jayhawks ran for 117 yards — against the top-ranked rushing defense in the Big 12, no less — but the yardage produced zero points. By game's end, KU had tallied 316 yards of total offense, including 202 on the ground, but had just six points to show for it.

Defensively, the Jayhawks were not at their best either, and Sendish said he could not think of one thing his unit did well. But the fact remained that the Kansas defense could have limited the Cowboys to half as many points as they scored but still not done enough to overcome KU's struggling offense.

Having scored 19 points or fewer for eight straight weeks, things are starting to reach historic territory for the Jayhawks. The last time Kansas went this long without reaching 20 points in a game was from Oct. 11, 1986 to Oct. 17, 1987, when Bob Valesente's squad played 13 consecutive games in the teens or less. That stretch included three shutouts in a row but also included a 16-15 victory over Southern Illinois.

Perhaps the worst part about all of this offensive futility for the Jayhawks (2-7 overall, 0-6 Big 12) is that the current eight-game struggle is the second longest in the past 28 years, with last year's stretch of five in a row — matched by a similar run in 2005 — placing third on the list during that same time. Other than those four paltry point-scoring streaks, KU has experienced four straight games in the teens three times and several other three-game lulls.

“I could sit there and give you 15 excuses but I'm not gonna do that,” said Weis when asked if Saturday's season-low was a sign of things getting worse and not better. “In the first half, I thought we were moving the ball fairly well, but, at the end of the day, it's not about how you're moving the ball, it's about point production.”

If there was anything good that came out of Saturday's loss, it was the play of freshman quarterback Montell Cozart, who looked as good and played as much as he had during any game this season. His numbers 6-of-17 passing for 58 yards and 18 carries for 55 yards — didn't show it, but Weis and the Jayhawks liked what they saw.

“Sign me up,” Weis said.

Added wide receiver Andrew Turzilli, who returned from injury to catch two balls for 54 yards: “I like a lot of things about Montell and he's only gonna continue to get better. Of course it doesn't feel good, losing. But it definitely felt better that I got the opportunity to try and help this offense. Clearly, we still have a ways to go and that's frustrating.”


Doug Cramer 6 years, 8 months ago

Guess Tyler Patmon got the last laugh. Would love to know the full story as to why Weis wanted him out of the program ?

Havn't watched the game yet...but sounds like it was the same undisciplined team - different week.

Len Shaffer 6 years, 8 months ago

Yep, pretty much.

One of the most frustrating things, as usual, was some of the questionable coaching moves.

For example, after the opening kick was returned for a touchdown, both of KU's other kickoffs went to the 20 yard line and were returned to near the 40. I can understand wanting to be careful when you've gotten burned, but basically giving up and handing them great field position is a really dumb choice.

Two other coaching moves drove me crazy: (1) Cozart was moving the ball really well, largely by running plays to the outside. Then KU got the ball down to the 10 yard line and they ran two straight balls up the middle for virtually no gain. Then -- stop me if this is predictable -- KU tried to throw on third down and Cozart got sacked. (2) After Cozart showed that he was a significant improvement over Heaps, Weis put Heaps back in the game, at a seemingly completely random time. I'll give Weis credit for at least playing Cozart the entire second half, and hopefully he'll give up on Heaps now, who looked terrible. But there was no reason to take Cozart out when he was moving the ball well.

And of course there were also two drops on long passes from Cozart, both of which likely would have been touchdowns.

Basically, just another joyous day of watching KU football. I'll say one thing for those us who are suffering through game after game of this crap: no one can ever question whether we're true Jayhawk fans.

Chandler Accipiter 6 years, 8 months ago

Okie St and Tulsa were his only offers as legend has it.

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 8 months ago

NO OL and TD passes dropped by Tony and Turzilli. Tony has not been the same since his concussion.

Nic Andrews 6 years, 8 months ago

Bad loss for the team yet again. Same story, different Saturday. But I'm happy for Patmon. He got an absolute raw deal from Weis. Glad to see the young man make the most out of it and find better success at OSU. The coaches love him down there. Always been a hard worker, smart kid, picked up on everything fast. He's been a playmaker for them (as he was for us the entire 2010 season. will never forget that Colorado game). Minor leg injury plagued him most of 2012, but he seems back in full mode now. Read an article about him being 2nd on OSU's team in PBUs, and he only plays about 1/2 of the game. Good for him. Ended up being a gift from Weis when he pulled his scholarship, and a great situation in the end.

Mike Barnhart 6 years, 8 months ago

I have hope! CW put himself on the clock this week when he asked the media to judge this team on how well they perform in the last four games. I expect three more just like this one!

The silence from Sheahon Zenger is deafening.

Chandler Accipiter 6 years, 8 months ago

Same old Weis with his 15 excuses quote. "I'll take the blame, but just so you know they are at least 15 other people or things that are more responsible for our ineptitude."

Okie St sluggishly puts up 42, meanwhile KU pats itself on the back for its rushing, time-of- posession "dominance", and next great quarterback all while hanging 6 points on the scoreboard.

Layne Pierce 6 years, 8 months ago

It is becoming more and more apparent that without major upgrade on offensive line we are not going to be competitive. Maybe we should only recruit offensive lineman next year.

After all is said and done, terrible backs can run behind a good line, but Barry Sanders could not have gotten 500 yards with this line.

Tough question is it the scheme. Is it the talent level. This must be answered. Strangely enough the other area is wide receivers, they drop too money passes when it matters.

Still I have to say, I do see small amounts of improvement. The defense especially linebackers and defensive backs has gone from terrible to mediocre. Still have no real push on quarterback.

Robert Brown 6 years, 8 months ago

Zenger is not saying anything because if Weis fails then Zenger has failed at the most important thing he has had to do since he became AD. It's not looking very good but somehow Zenger got a huge raise. The Big 12 is stable but KU/Zenger had nothing to do with that, we were a beneficiary. The basketball did not need fixing.

I think the fast talking East Coast coach was able to mesmerize the young AD from Illinois State. Unfortunately, Weis is here for at least two more years, so we all should hope he finds success.

Jeff Kilgore 6 years, 8 months ago

It's hard not being in the locker room or in practices to be able to judge what is going on, but when I watch KU on television, and I limit that as much as possible, the players don't look confident. They look as though they know that plays won't work, defensive calls won't be right, etc. I played on bad football teams, and it felt as if everyone had quit in early October.

Another coaching change is needed. By now, we should be having some success, at least every third game or so, and this team is far, far away from a win. Weis started with nothing and that's what we have now. We are so far from Division I competitiveness, and yet, there are some good football players on the team. We have 10 or so. Most teams have 45.

Nick Cole 6 years, 8 months ago

Weis is a joke. I knew when we hired him that he wasn't a good college coach or good at developing talent, but I thought if nothing else he could be a "big name" and a figurehead that could draw talent to KU that we hand't been able to get in the past. It seemed like he was doing that, but at some point that talent has to produce wins. The problem is, these are kids. They need coaching, and it's clear they aren't getting it. I hear people say we need to give Weis time, but why give a guy more time if he has shown throughout his career that he can't coach college kids and his strategy isn't working here? We upgraded our facilities to be some of the nicest in the nation, we pay coaches $2MM+ per year, we are currently putting in plans to renovate the stadium, and we play in one of the better football leagues close to some of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. If you can't come in here and at least show improvement in 2 years, you don't belong here. Mangino did this with less talent and without the big paycheck or upgraded facilities. Turner Gill won 5 games in his 2 years here, including a conference game. Weis has 3 total wins and 0 conference wins and is likely to not get another win this season. Think about those numbers for a second. Just let that sink in.

And I hate to bring Mangino up, but he inherited a team with less talent than when Weis took over, he didn't recruit kids who were as "high profile" as Weis has, yet Mangino went to a bowl game in his second year as HC at KU. Weis is lucky to have 2 wins so far in his second season. This is not a knee jerk reaction, as I have thought this for a couple weeks now, but we need to get rid of Weis. Keeping him only sends the message that KU finds this kind of thing acceptable. For those of you who say you see progress... in what way? Our D went from worst in the country to not the worst? Wow, that's great, but they still bet by 4+ TD's more often than not. Oh, but we don't have an O-Line so that's why our offense isn't very good. Guess what? We aren't the only program with a bad O-Line. A good coach finds ways around this. Oh, but our WR's drop too many balls. Then teach them how to catch. Look, you can make excuses for the losses, but it all comes back on the coaching staff. You can say Weis hasn't had enough time, but he has made it clear that time wont change his coaching abilities. But Weis has tried making changes to the coaching staff and how the game plan is put in place. Good for him, and what has that done? Resulted in the same results, or worse.

Rant commenced. Rock Chalk.

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