Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Tarik Black strong, physical

Memphis forward Tarik Black dunks against Michigan State forward Adreian Payne (5) in the second half of a third-round game of the NCAA college basketball tournament Saturday, March 23, 2013, in Auburn Hills, Mich.

Memphis forward Tarik Black dunks against Michigan State forward Adreian Payne (5) in the second half of a third-round game of the NCAA college basketball tournament Saturday, March 23, 2013, in Auburn Hills, Mich.



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Memphis forward Tarik Black dunks against Michigan State forward Adreian Payne (5) in the second half of a third-round game of the NCAA college basketball tournament Saturday, March 23, 2013, in Auburn Hills, Mich.

The words “big, strong and physical” appeared on the University of Tulsa’s scouting report of former Memphis center Tarik Black last college basketball season.

“It’s pretty much what everybody else is talking about. His physical presence stands out more than anything,” said former Kansas University guard Brett Ballard, second-year assistant coach on Danny Manning’s TU staff. He was referring to Black, the 6-foot-9, 262-pound forward/center, who on Monday announced plans to transfer to KU. Memphis played, and defeated, Tulsa twice during the 2012-13 season.

“He’s not afraid of contact, likes a physical style of play, is not a threat to make any type of outside shot, an average free-throw shooter, good defender who gives them size, strength — a guy who played a lot of minutes at a high level,” Ballard added.

Black, who averaged 8.1 points and 4.8 rebounds while coming off the bench in 27 games and starting five his junior season, scored eight points off 2-of-5 shooting (4-for-7 from the line) and grabbed eight boards with two blocks and four fouls while playing 14 minutes in Memphis’ 94-64 victory over the Golden Hurricane on Feb. 2 in Memphis.

Black scored four points off 1-of-2 shooting (2-for-4 from the line) with seven boards and a steal while playing 15 minutes before fouling out of an 85-74 victory over TU in the Conference USA tournament last March in Tulsa.

“Their team was athletic. For us, he wasn’t the focal point,” Ballard said. “We put on there (scouting report), ‘Don’t give him easy baskets. He struggles at the line (44.8 percent last year compared to 58.9 from the field).’ We wanted to make him earn it at the line. He’s a guy we’d help off of on the perimeter. We were not concerned he’d make a shot from 15 feet.

“I felt he was a good rebounder,” Ballard added. “He has good hands and is not afraid to go get the ball. I feel he’ll be a solid rebounder in the Big 12.”

Black is expected to be a stabilizing force for KU’s young frontcourt. It’s possible he will battle freshman Joel Embiid for the starting center spot while supplying senior leadership either as a starter or sixth man.

“He didn’t start for them, so that makes you wonder, were the other guys that much better?” Ballard said. “To say a guy will come in and be a leader just because he’s a senior is not always necessarily the case. I think it depends on his personality how much of a leadership role he’ll have. He’ll provide experience that is valuable. Hopefully he’ll be a good leader to the other guys.”

Black will be immediately eligible to play in games at KU because of a rule that allows transfers to participate without sitting out a year provided they have earned an undergraduate degree. Black recently earned a degree at Memphis in the field of organizational leadership.

Tulsa benefited from the rule last year. Forward Kauri Black transferred from Northeastern to Tulsa for a final season and was an immediate starter, averaging 7.1 points a game.

“It’s sort of a similar situation. He started half the time at Northeastern,” Ballard said. “He knew how to practice hard and how to go through the grind of the season. He started every game and was good for our young big guys.”

Memphis this upcoming season will also benefit from the rule. Coach Josh Pastner has added George Washington senior transfer David Pellum, a 6-8, 220-pound forward who averaged 10.4 points and 6.1 rebounds as a junior in 2011-12. He sat out last season because of a wrist injury.

“It’s the rule,” Memphis coach Pastner told the Journal-World in a phone interview. “If a kid graduates, you are allowed to continue elsewhere. I support Tarik. He got a degree, and that is the important thing.”

This, that: Former KU guard Travis Releford will be participating in a 30-team draft workout today in Brooklyn, ESPN’s Chad Ford reports. ... Ford’s first post-lottery NBA Draft has KU’s Ben McLemore being selected No. 4 overall by Charlotte. Nerlens Noel will be No. 1, Trey Burke 2 and Otto Porter 3, he says. Ford says KU’s Jeff Withey will be taken at No. 22 and become a future teammate of Tyshawn Taylor with the Brooklyn Nets. ... There’s been some discrepancy in the weight of Black. Until summer measurements are taken, KU will now go with 262 pounds, which is Black’s listed weight at Memphis.


monkeehawkSL8 11 months ago

Conner F will be spending time with Tarik @ the free throw line daily. Tarik will develop a perfect stroke and by years end will shoot above 75%, ice in his veins. He may become so good that he will chosen to shoot tech's. ( on seniors night )

I hope that this remarkable team that has been built develops a bond that surpasses
08'. I hope they take care of each other, hold each other accountable and set a new bar in being coach able. I hope that every athlete in the nation in any sport thinks " I want to have what the Jayhawks have".



jayhawk012234 11 months ago



J.T. Even 11 months ago

These next couple years is going to show exactly how well KU can develop big men without Danny Manning. The level of talent is all over the place with NBA expectations and project role players. Jeff Withey and Kevin Young continued to exceed expectations this past year. Ellis didn't play well til the post season but I think we can all conclude that we had unreasonably high hopes for him.

I think we will continue to see post players closing in on their potential under Bill Self. Five reasons: strength and conditioning program, expectations and demands to be better, work harder; coaching experience (with an assist from Danny for 8 years), toughness, and the high low system.

And Wiggins and Selden will also be fun to watch.


eric poncharello 11 months ago

Black will have to earn his playing time. I don't like the fact he quit on his team during practices, although I know Richard Scott would leave basketball practices sitting in the hallway of Allenfield house sulking, but, he would always go back.


Tony Bandle 11 months ago

Any day you can simultaneously piss off Duke, UK and North Carolina fans is a good day indeed!! If you can add in K-State fans, it gets upgraded to a "great day"!!!


JayHok 11 months ago

Duke fans are not very happy with Self right now. Coach K is not happy either. He got so mad yesterday he agreed to be the USA olympic coach even though it exhausts him during the regular season.


Ryan Zimmerman 11 months ago

That first pic looks like Busta Rhymes


TMJhawk 11 months ago

There's no doubt a big horse like Black can save a game once on a while. I remember Venon Vanoy in the mid 60's. It wasn't always pretty but he could terrorize an opposing team. Black has a higher skill set as well as the muscle


Joe Ross 11 months ago

The negative responses re: Tarik Black on other articles surprises me.

Trust're gonna WANT that COWBELL!


Ron Franklin 11 months ago

All Black needs to do is set big, strong, wide-based screens for Tharpe and Wiggins to get a step on their guy. That's his role and hopefully 8-10 boards would be icing.


dannyxo 11 months ago

Just remember, Kevin Young's old coaches at LMU didn't think they had a player that could contribute at school like KU and our coaching staff utilized/coached him into being a starter. Except for Elijah's regression or mis-positioning last year, you dont see too many player regress under Self's staff from all conference to non-starter.

It could have been recruiting, attitude, or lack of coaching at Memphis that led to that fall for Black, but two of the most highly respected coaches in the game thought it was worth risking a one year scholarship on Black.

Based on Self's history, I predict Traylor will start with Tharpe, Ellis, Seldon and Wiggins. He will hope that: 1. Black and/or Embiid can develop into starters over Traylor as the year goes on like Jackson did over Kaun. 2. Black and/or Embiid can have a late season emergence like Ellis did last season. 3. Black and/or Embiid can contribute a surprise half in a big game like Aldrich did in 2008 vs. UNC.


Randy Maxwell 11 months ago

in a least a third of KU's games last year McClemore wasn't even one of the best 3 or 4 players on KU so taking him in the top 2 picks is just silly


FearlessJayhawk 11 months ago

Black can be just what the doctor ordered when it's crunch time and we need someone who won't be afraid to rattle the cage of some players. I hope he can reach his potential in time.


KemDooKU 11 months ago

I wish EJ was using his muscle memory near the end of the KU - Michigan game! Oh I hate bringing up painful memories-


coloradojayhawk 11 months ago

I'd like to see him put that "Organizational Leadership" degree to some use. Just from the title, I'd like to think he'd be a good leader for this team, but I'm wondering how he will blend in. Any word on what classes he'll be taking? Will he be a graduate student, or will he just be taking classes that don't lead to a degree. Having taken graduate courses, they're rather different than undergraduate classes in that they require quite a bit more reading and writing.


William Blake 11 months ago

"...while playing 15 minutes before fouling out..."

Yikes! Someone fouling that much should quickly be able to learn how to reduce it down considerably.

“To say a guy will come in and be a leader just because he’s a senior is not always necessarily the case."

True.... he just needs to be a stabilizing force around the younger players. He doesn't need to run the team.

"Don’t give him easy baskets. He struggles at the line (44.8 percent last year compared to 58.9 from the field)."

Most likely, this is the reason Black attracts so many fouls... because they are intentional to make him earn it from the charity stripe. From today until the end of March, Mr. Black should be taking 1000 practice FTs a day. Enough repetition and you can shoot a decent FT% with your eyes closed. He's a senior, so I doubt he has much stage fright.

He needs to make a buddy... let's say one of our walk-ons... so he has his partner helping him put up 1000 every day.


Bob Bailey 11 months ago

Have been an advocate of 'muscle memory' in shooting free throws. If our coaches take it to heart, Black could be elevated to 75-80%. Scooter Barry confirmed it. Fairly simple to 'teach'. Close your eyes and rely on muscle memory!


JayHok 11 months ago

Note to Cleveland GM. Research the Sam Bowie pick.


Tony Bandle 11 months ago

Normally, I would agree with all of the above posts, HOWEVER, since Andrew has put us in the fight with UK for the best draft classes, having two consecutive #1 picks would be huge for Kansas...especially since the current favorite at #1 is a UK guy.

Still, when it's all said and done, I too wish for Ben to land in the best stiuation possible for his career and his future.


Steve Corder 11 months ago

What is "organized leadership"?


craigers 11 months ago

I would much rather have Ben go to a place that needs him and he can be successful. I wouldn't want him drafted #1 just to play behind other players.


FarSideHawk 11 months ago

Although I would love for Ben to go #1, I would be equally happy if he goes to Orlando and plays for my all-time favorite Jayhawk - Jacque Vaughn.


KemDooKU 11 months ago

Ben is making Millions either way so 1st, 2nd, 4th who cares - the second contract is what all these guys getting drafted should look forward to-


Jason Keller 11 months ago

Ben got screwed by the lottery last night. Cleveland already has some nice pieces on the perimeter. If they keep the pick, it's Nerlens all day. Hopefully they trade to Orlando then maybe Ben has a shot.


KUFan90 11 months ago

A nice, grounded assessment of Black from Ballard. Im glad Black s in the fold, but like everything else, we need to temper our expectations for what he might do.

He has already been anointed "starter", "senior leader", and practically guaranteeing us a trip to the Final Four. Lets give him a chance to show us what he's got first.

Certainly lots of "potential" on this team for next year which should make it a fun ride!


thomc6 11 months ago

Order also depends on each team's needs, obviously.


bradynsdad 11 months ago

So Ben goes from possible number1 to 4th?


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