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Monday, May 6, 2013

Analyst: Nobody knows Andrew Wiggins’ pick

Kansas recruit Andrew Wiggins watches from behind the bench during the second half, Monday, March 4, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas recruit Andrew Wiggins watches from behind the bench during the second half, Monday, March 4, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Paul Biancardi, who is ESPN.com’s director of basketball recruiting, professes no inside knowledge into the decision-making process of Andrew Wiggins, the country’s No. 1 high school prospect who has a final list of Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina and Florida State.

“I have no idea where he is going to go. I will tell you that everybody who is recruiting him thinks the other guy is getting him. Nobody feels comfortable that they are getting him. It’s because he keeps everything so close to himself,” Biancardi said Sunday in Allen Fieldhouse.

The former Wright State head coach spent the weekend coaching at Bill Self’s Fantasy Basketball Experience.

“I think he’s shut it down,” Biancardi added of Wiggins, a 6-foot-7 senior forward from Huntington (W. Va.) Prep. “Nobody really knows where they are standing.”

Wiggins has yet to report when he will sign and how he will announce. The last day of the spring signing period is May 15.

“It’s never been expressed,” Biancardi said of Wiggins possibly wanting to announce on ESPN. “He isn’t talking to anybody. That could change at the last minute, or he could just put it on Twitter like everyone else.”

Biancardi’s team went winless at Self’s camp for players 35 and older.

“We didn’t win any games, but the moral of the story is Dino Gaudio didn’t win any games last year (at camp), and he’s cutting down the nets. So my prediction is I’ll come back and be the champ next year,” Biancardi said with a smile.

Former Wake Forest coach Gaudio’s Team Vaughn, which was assisted by KU freshmen Andrew White and Landen Lucas, did indeed go undefeated and win the title. After the final game, there was a net-cutting ceremony with “One Shining Moment” playing on the Allen Fieldhouse PA system.

“It was a phenomenal 21⁄2 days with intense competitiveness, camaraderie between players and coaches. It’s the perfect world for everybody,” Biancardi said.

No comment: KU coach Self said at his camp on Sunday he had “no comment” regarding any aspects of the USA Today story in which Ben McLemore’s AAU coach, Darius Cobb, said he was paid $10,000 and travel expenses from a middleman, who allegedly represented agents and financial advisers this past season.

According to Cobb, the middle man, Rodney Blackstock, also paid for a birthday bowling party for McLemore and hotel rooms for some of the party attendees.

Cobb said McLemore knew “little to none” about the middleman’s financial involvement in the player’s life.

McLemore’s amateur status may be at risk because of payments Cobb said he accepted from Blackstock. An athlete’s family members, friends and coaches cannot accept money or gifts from agents or anyone working for them. An agent now is listed as anyone who “seeks to obtain any type of financial gain or benefit from securing a prospective student-athlete’s enrollment at an educational institution or from a student-athlete’s potential earnings as a professional athlete.”

Cobb also said he helped the family financially by paying bills and buying McLemore clothes and food.

If the NCAA deemed McLemore violated his amateur status, KU could forfeit the games in which he played a year ago.

In response to the story, ESPN’s Dick Vitale tweeted: “This is the SICKNESS that exists & causes nightmares 4 coaches — hustlers — Hoops needs a CZAR!”

CBSsports.com’s Gregg Doyel wrote ... “This is the case of Ben McLemore and the leeches around him, a list that is long but apparently includes his former AAU coach, a runner, an agent, a marketing rep and maybe more.

“Notice the parties I left out. I left out Kansas. I left out Kansas coach Bill Self. And I left out the NCAA. Unless more information comes out — information that implicates Kansas or Self or anyone on his staff — the NCAA should heed the final sentence of my first paragraph ... and sit this one out.”

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ahpersecoachingexperience 1 year, 2 months ago

Nobody know where he's going but could he please tell us what the freaking holdup is!

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JakeBarnes 1 year, 2 months ago

A purist would say you should have a comma after going and a question mark at the end of the sentence since you are asking a question.

PS. I find it difficult to believe you care!!!!!!

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Jeff Kilgore 1 year, 2 months ago

It's actually usage police you need. Grammar defines the rules of a particular language. I didn't study linguistics at Emporia State in 1981 for nothing. Then, on second thought . . .

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jhawkrulz 1 year, 2 months ago

I think when you use freaking in this situation, you drop the "g" and put an apostrophe....freakin'

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Jonathan Allison 1 year, 2 months ago

with the news on the McLemore situation, I hope that Wiggins makes the right decision and makes a million while suiting up for some european team next year before becoming eligible for the NBA draft.

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Ian Emerson 1 year, 2 months ago

Why go to FSU? They cant prepare you for the pros like the elite staff at KU can. Why go to Kentucky? Why go to a team you wont be the centerpiece at being the #1 pick. Why go to UNC? The team they have will not be as good as KU has. Coming to KU means you have a mix of all 3 of these things. You will be the centerpiece, you will work with the best strength coach in the county and you will play with the 2nd best recruiting class in the county. Not too mention the talent we already have. Its just the logical choice, Spock would tell you so.

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BainDread 1 year, 2 months ago

Sold! Where's the contract and where do I sign?

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

Why go to Kentucky? Because they would have a real chance to be the first uindefeated nat'l champs since Indiana in the '70s.

Look, Wiggins would be great at KU and Kansas would be great with Wiggins. They would be in the conversation and would have a shot at a run at the Final Four, etc... So would Carolina if he went there. But the draw to Kentucky is OBVIOUS. Wiggins will be the #1 overall pick after next year REGARDLESS of where he goes, so it isn't necessary to have his talent on display as the centerpiece of a team. I honestly think KU is 4th in the running of the 4 finalists for Wiggins. We simply got in on him too late. UK, UNC, FSU, then Kansas. Just my gut feel.

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brinkofdawn 1 year, 2 months ago

No way in hell UK goes undefeated next year...with or without Wiggins.

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

The 2011 nat'l champ UK team was a prayer shot by Indiana and a flaky game in the SEC tourney vs. Vandy from going undefeated and this year's team will be MUCH better than that one was. By far. They have a legit shot at it without Wiggins.

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Brian Conrad 1 year, 2 months ago

ok if if if only 2 games away.. wtf .. how about IF KU would have had McLemore starting instead of Teahan KU would have BEAT uk in national Champ game !!! Robinson and McLemore !!! Ku was in that game with Conner playing.. switch Conner for Ben well there is double figure extra to put KU over the top.. horse shoes and hand grenades... UK will not go undefeated.. heck they may loose at ole MU.. first time in my life I will take MU... just threw up..

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KUFan90 1 year, 2 months ago

Problem is that same logic applied to Randle and look where that got us.

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Steve Corder 1 year, 2 months ago

The Wiggins family photo is similar to the Randle family photo: disinterested.

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addlime 1 year, 2 months ago

Right. And look at the woman next to his right. She is looking at her phone. She clearly doesn't care about KU either. Just wearing a KU tee shirt and appears to have a KU button or something on her headband. Maybe the photo was taken while there was no game action, so maybe it's not indicative of his interest.

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Gerry Butler 1 year, 2 months ago

this whole thing with Ben signed, sealed, and delivered, wiggins to Kentucky the reason? because you know the reason? all the big blueblood leeches in lexington will be making any and all contact they can with wiggins texts on his cell, tweets, whatever means they need the boosters callin in favors, the whole jest is gonna play out something to this effect. hey buddy why would you want to go to kansas, when there is a very good possibility they might not even be able to go to the NCAA tourney next year, which will limit your exposure showin you talents playing against some of the best players in the nation in the tourney? thats exactly what they will do. they are gonna say why take that chance when you can come play with the big boys our ketucky elite team, would love to have him here but we will survive either way with or without him, the thing i see as alot of others he knows where he is going. leads you to bekieve he has to be the center of attention wants all the attention, does that fit into the KU system how would he fit in? would he take away from the other players at ku? would he mesh with the other players. no matter what you think we DO HAVE some pretty damm good players coming that will work just fine GO HAWKS

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

There is virtually ZERO chance that KU will not be able to go to the tourney next year as a result of the McLemore situation. Don't fan the flames with silly comments to make an overly dramatic point.

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Gerry Butler 1 year, 2 months ago

nice ya ok and you just keep those blinders pulled in close and really tight ok there bubba. keep right on sayin never never never and then WHEN it does hapeen you say what the hell happened this was NEVER gonna HAPPEN hows that for an overly dramatic point

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BringBackMark 1 year, 2 months ago

He obviously has no interest in attending a college. Aren't there other options for him to play somewhere for a year before he becomes the next NBA super star? This drives me nuts seeing everyone clenching teeth over this kid after what we're now seeing with the BMAC situation. If we get him and don't win a national championship he will only have taken away time from some of our other outstanding talent.

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mwmilsted 1 year, 2 months ago

Agree with you. It doesn't look like he wants to attend college. He leaves a lot to be desired with his lack of team spirit and inability to commit. I think he will be a cancer to any team. I hope HCBS can find a suitable transfer to back up Ellis and that should be enough.

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

What are you TALKING about? Lack of team spirit? A cancer to any team? Are you just making random statements to try to make yourself feel better if he doesn't pick Kansas?

Wiggins is a KID and he isn't sure which of the four good choices he wants to choose from. All choices have their positives, so I can imagine that he is having a hard time choosing. If I was his parent would I tell him to make a choice and get it over with because it's only for a year and will little impact on his long term career and life? YES. Do I think he's a problem because he is dragging his feet? NO. Let's not pretend that almost all of us aren't huge procrastinators in our own life and don't enjoy telling people we like that we are not choosing them for something...

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Ron Prichard 1 year, 2 months ago

Thanks for inserting some rational thought back into the conversation, 44. There are so many people on here that leap to conclusions based on little to no information. I would love to land Wiggins, but if we don't, I don't begrudge him this process. Same with Randle when we were after him. Everything I heard about Randle was that he is an even better person than he is a basketball player. I haven't heard anything negative about Wiggins' personality or character, so why would I assume he would make a poor teammate? According to fans, these kids are only jerks or cancers when they don't pick your team.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

I'd heard good things about a lot of these kids. Having said that I've heard more bad than good about the Harrison twins though.

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Jason Keller 1 year, 2 months ago

I think it's strange that no one ever mention's Wiggins' older brother as part of our recruiting pitch. He is about to play his senior season 2 hours from Lawrence. When you consider that it simply doesn't matter where Andrew goes to school, one would think that proximity to his brother would be important to him and his parents.

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pepper_bar 1 year, 2 months ago

Wiggins is on the path to becoming a multi-zillionaire. Being 2 hours from his brother for one year is probably not a serious element of the computations in his business plan. That's why nobody mentions it.

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Jason Keller 1 year, 2 months ago

Exactly. He will be a multi-zillioinaire no matter which of the 4 schools he goes to. So, why not at least factor in his brother?

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pepper_bar 1 year, 2 months ago

You're oversimplifying the factors he has to consider. He would probably be the best player at FSU... compete for PT at Kentucky... somewhere in the middle at Kansas. "My brother would be close by in Kansas" is simply not a consideration when the #1 factor is what you want to show NBA scouts.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

*If it's about "what you want to show NBA scouts"? - I think the best choice of the four would probably be UNC.

Not enough exposure at FSU. Too crowded at UK. And too much hard-work, i.e., learning D, etc. at KU.

For quite a long time now UNC's seemed like the best choice for him to me.

We'll see whenever he decides I guess.

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

It is a factor and is in the "plus" column for Kansas. But there are other pluses for other programs that likely carry more weight. I think he's going to Kentucky until I hear differently.

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KansasComet 1 year, 2 months ago

It's been mentioned numerous times and several months ago. Still good conversation though.

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Michael Pannacciulli 1 year, 2 months ago

Over Wiggins.

This Ben story is exactly what Bill warned him about at the presser announcing his intent to declare. Bill said he was almost too nice. This is not Ben's fault but there are jackals at his door, ignorant ones, wearing masks of friends and mentors. I feel the same way now as I did when this first broke and that is that this is also going to affect KU too somehow. Dickie V is right and he too knows this is going to bite KU is the arse. Shame. Annoys me to no end.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

The only good news being I think it will only affect things from LAST YEAR. Still will hurt in streaks of consecutive Big XII titles, NCAA Tourney appearances our ranking in all-time wins, etc. :( Good news being I doubt that they do anything major like revoke a scholarship, ban us from postseason play this year or anything that harsh......because - how were we to know?!?!? Only if it's found that we knew about it before this reporting will KU actually get in more major trouble.

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Kent Wells 1 year, 2 months ago

Wiggins: We have AAU hook ups and fat stacks for the whole family.

I think this is all that appeals to OADs - the demise of colege hoops. At least that is my mood today.

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KemDooKU 1 year, 2 months ago

Everyone needs to stop Wiggin out bouts Wiggy - he just a little bit of hair in the whole Wig of things - I like blonde Wigs but he color is black - but I ain't Wiggins out bout it-

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pepper_bar 1 year, 2 months ago

Ironic that Wiggins and McLemore are being covered in the same column here. McLemore is a cautionary tale about the risks associated with OAD-type NBA prospects.

Self should withdraw the offer to Wiggins and start focusing on coaching up the guys who appreciate the opportunity to be in Lawrence.

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KGphoto 1 year, 2 months ago

"I will tell you that everybody who is recruiting him thinks the other guy is getting him”

Except Cal. Everybody who is recruiting him thinks Cal is getting him. And Cal thinks Cal is getting him. And everybody who isn’t recruiting Wiggins, thinks Cal is getting him. I’m sure WWW thinks Cal is getting him. Is there ANY reason to believe Cal isn’t getting this one too?

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Jason Keller 1 year, 2 months ago

I was on the ESPN chat board for Ben's article last night and a lot of UK faithful claim he is headed to Lawrence. A few predicted UNC but most said KU. One of them said that he just wasn't getting the Kentucky type vibe from this kid. I honestly think we have the best shot at him. This story didn't help though.

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Benz Junque 1 year, 2 months ago

And folks, let's not pretend that Kansas has been the shining example of a squeaky clean basketball program while we hurl accusations at Kentucky. We have had more recruiting violations than they have lately. BE HONEST.

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texashawk10 1 year, 2 months ago

KU's history is far from clean, but define lately because there 3 recruits at Kentucky since Cal go there that have had questions about their eligibility. Eric Bledsoe's grade changing, Anthony Davis getting $200,000, and Nerlens Noel issues.

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Brian Conrad 1 year, 2 months ago

two coach 44 is kensucky troll... he will never post again when the Anthony Davis payoff comes to the front and UK gets the death penalty for payouts in this years class... UK not KU had players point shaving !!! ole kensucky fans hope the yougins do not remember the point shaving , paying players and 2 Final Fours taken away from the new coach... how about ole kensucky not allowing Blacks to play till 1970! ever watch Glory Road? KU was 20 years ahead of UK... KU has had minor violations over decades... UK has had MAJOR violations forever.

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Janet Olin 1 year, 2 months ago

Wiggins is not coming to KU. KU-interested players look and act interested, not like that photo from Late Night, and they don't grandstand like this (or Randle). Don't need it. Over it. Next.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

Well, sometimes KU-interested players still don't come too though. A LOT of people say that Muhammad was pretty stoked & excited at that KU / MU OT game back in '11 - but still went w/ UCLA.

A. Gordon seemed pretty excited at Late Night like Selden & Embiid did but we didn't even make his final three or four....yet UK did! :(

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rickydick 1 year, 2 months ago

Wiggins will shock everybody and go to WSU. Where Andrew Wiggins will lead his brother Nick,now a probable starter for next years WSU team to play for the National Championship in 2014. Then NBA & $$$$$$!

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Ted Hume 1 year, 2 months ago

The Ben story is bad, because of the timing, because of streak, on many fronts, but it's true that the coach and school had zero involvement or knowledge of any of it (hopefully). Likely scenario is Ben signs his contract and his family and that sleezeball AAU coach make full restitution for all impermissible benefits; KU has to forfeit the victories from Jan. on (sorry everyone- the streak is over) and that's the end of it. No other penalties in terms of loosing scholarships or post-season eligibility, and really no further damage down the road. I'm sure that Self's team is analyzing every NCAA situation remotely similar to this one and assuring any recruits (Wiggins) that there will be no damage beyond no longer being the official defending league champs. Enjoy this one K-State, it'll be decades before the next one comes your way.

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Joe Baker 1 year, 2 months ago

I've heard nothing but speculation...motion to file for a mistrial and dismiss this little scam by some two-bit hustler coach. The NCAA does the right thing, absolutely nothing. This was over the minute it broke. Sorry haters, move on, nothing here.

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Tony Bandle 1 year, 2 months ago

My only thought is that Andrew, though he wants an NC, even more so, he wants to be prepared for the NBA grind. Kansas has the best strength facility, the best strength coach and the best documented strength program results of any of the four schools...by far.

Despite every indication he is Kentucky-bound, despite the negativity of the BenMac situation, despite the sure-fire opportunities in Chapel Hill, despite the strong familiy ties of FSU, I think Andrew will shock the world and actually become a Jayhawk.

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JakeBarnes 1 year, 2 months ago

Is there a deadline a player must meet to be eligible to play college ball next season? I would think the NCAA snoops would need time to check his academic background.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

Everything I'd heard was that he's pretty smart actually.

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jaybate 1 year, 2 months ago

Hypothesis: a highly sought after OAD waits a long time to sign in order to:

a) max his brand recognition so that;

b) his wholesale agent can set up and operate a long term auction for the player among;

c) the retail agents seeking to represent the player after his season in D1 in negotiations with;

d) an NBA franchise and firms seeking endorsement deals.

The length of the auction is driven by how long the counter bidding continues with the only time limit being the last moment the player can enroll and be declared eligible to play.

Highest retail agent bidder wins the player and then player and family selects from a short list of coaches/universities acceptable to retail agent.

It's all a hypothesis, of course.

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AsadZ 1 year, 2 months ago

Story on Ben is a bad news for KU IMO and it would come down to the birthday party.

I wish someone had raised a red flag on how can a family who is struggling with meeting common day essentials afford such a birthday party.

I hope no one associated with the athletic department and in particular KU's basketball program (coaching staff, managers etc) was at that party.

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Ted Hume 1 year, 2 months ago

agree. the birthday party was bad because it was presumably attended by so many relatives, friends, other players, and happened in Lawrence. the cousin to LA thing is at least removed from Self's back yard. I'm very surprised that the b-day party got past Self's compliance crew, no doubt about it.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

Unfortunately, I'm SURE that Ben trusted his AAU Coach in that regard and had no clue of the Agent's reps. involvement - I think it says so in the report up above.

It seems with the exception of the financial support to the family that they make mention of, which who knows whether Ben knew about or not - that everything else is pretty clean.

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bayareajhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

I agree. I wondered how they paid for it as soon as I heard about the bowling-alley party. I took my family there for a recent birthday party and renting those lanes isn't exactly dirt cheap - especially for someone who has trouble paying the electric bill.

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

So - does a compliance crew now have to additionally hire private investigators to monitor ex-coaches & distant relatives?!?!?! Can universities REALLY afford this?!?!?! :(

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bayareajhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

No kidding. It will be tough to swallow if KU gets in trouble because a player's ex-coach took money to try and get him to LEAVE KU.

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Stephan123 1 year, 2 months ago

Disappointing that factors outside the athletic departments control can cast ephemeral yet unsavory shadows on the KU basketball program. But the program is bigger than this minor bump in the road and train will keep on rollin'. The UK-KU program contrast is much like the fable of the tortoise and the hare. KU is the tortoise that makes steady progress using a proven method while the hare is UK that, as demonstrated in the 2012 season, is overconfident and lacks the vision beyond its own, selfish, immediate needs to say diligent.

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Alex Peekeaton 1 year, 2 months ago

One program wins National Championships, the other cares more about Conference Championships.

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HAWKS1 1 year, 2 months ago

At first glance, the photo does appear to show total disinterest by the Wiggins family. However, if you expand the photo and look at the true Jayhawk fans around them, you will see they are all totally disinterested too!! This pic was probably snapped late in the halftime before the teams return to the court when EVERYONE is bored and waiting for the game to resume. Just a thought. Don't read too much in the Wiggins family shot. :)

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thjhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Exactly. During the Duke / UNC game, the cameras caught a glimpse of Andrew and his family and they looked even more disinterested watching that game, of course the game was a blow-out.

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Scott MacWilliams 1 year, 2 months ago

On Wiggins: “I have no idea where he is going to go. I will tell you that everybody who is recruiting him thinks the other guy is getting him. Nobody feels comfortable that they are getting him. It’s because he keeps everything so close to himself,” Biancardi said Sunday in Allen Fieldhouse.

Okay, so why is still news??? He's going to go somewhere. We'll all be fine. Let's move on.

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jaybate 1 year, 2 months ago

Coach Self appears to take this situation seriously enough to issue a no comment.

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Michael Luby 1 year, 2 months ago

No way Wiggins is coming to KU. Zero chance. None.

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Joe Baker 1 year, 2 months ago

No way? Zero chance? None?

The great thing about recruiting is that most of the recruits are fairly intelligent. They have great parents that can see through most of this mess. Wiggins' dad knows all too well how this can happen and doubtful this will change anything. He could get this experience at any program.

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noey4short 1 year, 2 months ago

I ran into Max Falkenstein at HyVee and was shooting the breeze with him. He said that the coaches all think Florida State (parents both have ties), so I'm going to go with the local legend. He may just have some sort of "inside track."

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Tony Bandle 1 year, 2 months ago

Well, as long as it's not UK, then that would be much less painful to take, with some rationale behind the decision.[ totally the main man, family ties, close to home, ACC exposure, etc.]

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Steven Mathew 1 year, 2 months ago

Here's a question:

By SOME chance KU is affected by the McLemore situation and the wins are taken away from KU, does this mean the streak of consecutive NCAA tournament appearances comes to an end?

P.S. Also Big 12 championship streak?

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Kevin Huffman 1 year, 2 months ago

Yes and Yes - kind of funny too as he was pretty much a non-factor in the win over WKU.

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nuleafjhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Analyst: Nobody knows Andrew Wiggins’ pick

And as of right this minute, there is one less who cares.

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REHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Andrew WHO? The Andrew about whom I am most interested, at this juncture, is our very own AW3, a player who signed his letter of intent, then committed to KU Hoops with intense dreams of being part of a terrific program. Our Andrew is waiting patiently for the opportunity to glean significant minutes as a key ingredient of winning Jayhawk basketball. ROCK CHALK!

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