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Tuesday, March 19, 2013

Western Kentucky keeping gameplan simple vs. Kansas

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Like just about all underdogs in March, Western Kentucky men’s basketball coach Ray Harper has demonstrated nothing but respect for top-seeded Kansas University since learning his Hilltoppers would face the Jayhawks in the second round of the NCAA Tournament at 8:50 p.m., Friday in Kansas City, Mo.

But just because Harper lauds the talent of KU (29-5) does not mean he wants to see it.

“I’m trying to watch as little film as I can,” Harper said Tuesday morning during a teleconference with out-of-town media. “It makes it hard to sleep at night.”

Although the 16th-seeded Hilltoppers (20-15) figure to have dissected plenty of game film on the Jayhawks by the time tipoff rolls around, the second-year WKU head coach sounded more interested in emphasizing what his team must do to compete than anything else.

“The key for us will be real simple,” Harper said. “Take care of the basketball and eliminate silly turnovers. Every time you turn it over it’s an opportunity you don’t have to score, and we need to get it up on the rim as many times as possible Friday night.”

One reason Harper believes that is possible is the re-emergence of sophomore guard T.J. Price — last year’s third leading scorer — who missed three games this season because of injury.

“We missed him so much when he was injured,” said Harper, noting that Price was averaging 15 points and six assists per game at the time he went down.

The Hilltoppers were 1-2 without Price this season and 1-3 in games in which he played less than 10 minutes. After easing his way back into action, the 6-foot-4, 208-pound guard has been on fire down the stretch and appears well equipped to handle the scoring burden.

“The thing with T.J., he’s a very talented kid and he’s really matured in the last year-and-a-half,” Harper said. “Before, when things weren’t going well, the maturity level would get him, but he can play through those things now.”

Never was that more evident than during last weekend’s Sun Belt Conference tournament, where Price was named Most Outstanding Player after averaging 18 points and four rebounds per game while topping 22 points in two games.

Price’s strong start to the postseason helped WKU became the first team in NCAA history to win four conference tournament games in four days in back-to-back seasons to qualify for the NCAA Tournament. During the four-game stretch that included two two-point victories and one three-point win, Western Kentucky finished with fewer turnovers than its opponents and also locked in on defense, holding Florida International, Arkansas State, South Alabama and Louisiana Monroe to a combined shooting clip of 38 percent.

For the season, WKU averaged 15.1 turnovers per game and held opponents to 42 percent shooting, but Harper believes the importance of both areas will be magnified Friday night against Kansas.

“I think, this time of year, you win with your defense and your ability to rebound the basketball,” Harper said. “If we turn the ball over at a high rate, we’re in a lot of trouble, there’s no question about it. At times, that’s been something that’s been a problem for us and other times we’ve been really good. So hopefully that team that understands and values that basketball shows up Friday night.”

Comments

Michael Luby 5 years, 11 months ago

then on the way to do the same thing to Nova or UNC, yet again.

Curtis Stutz 5 years, 11 months ago

Well, I hope Self won't be afraid to assert some pressure if the Toppers are staying in or leading the game. Glad that he's busted out the press several times this year, and the team has some practice at it.

Steve Zimmerman 5 years, 11 months ago

Waiting for kusports' scouting analysis, too. Can't overlook and underestimate WKU - they've got KU in it!

KRIMSONANDBLU 5 years, 11 months ago

Beware the "over-confidence" syndrome, it leads to #16 seed defeating a number a #1 seed

Tony Bandle 5 years, 11 months ago

My response, three letters...TCU..the Hawks won't let it happen again!!

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Tops (1)

Watched the last two games of Western Kentucky’s (Tops) tourney, following are my observations.

They’re a deep team that has used several different starters this year. The two games I watched had the following starting lineup.

10 Dickerson G 6-5 195 JR

14 Crook G 6-3 175 SR

20 Rostov C 6-10 225 FR

44 Fant F 6-6 240 SO

52 Price G 6-4 208 SO

Their sixth man off the bench who IMO should start in front of Dickerson is:

12 Harris G 6-1 170 JR

My hat off for their recycling efforts; their mascot is the old HR Puff-N-Stuff dyed red, when you see him you will wonder where Jimmie, the flute, and Witchy-poo are.

packywacky88 5 years, 11 months ago

I think I may have dated Witchy-poo back in the day, or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

Jayhawkcafe57 5 years, 11 months ago

Did you learn all this sailing in a battleship or on the beach at Pearl Harbor

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Aircraft carriers CV63 and CV 64, more beach time in Subic than Pearl.

Jayhawkcafe57 5 years, 11 months ago

WETSU Hawk, ADM Ron Tucker, USN (ret) was my CO on BB62 and led us to believe he coined the acronym when CO of NavBase Pearl and was on all trashbins on the base. This is the first time I've seen WETSU since BB62. It appears you have much SD time also; I rode CV62 with CCDG-1.

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Tops (2)

Crook is the point guard and has long arms. Harris and Price can play the point. Harris is their three point specialist, when others penetrate they like to dish out to Harris for an open three. They run a set play on an end court throw in where they feed him directly to the corner for a quick three.

Price and Fant are very strong physical players that the NFL may want to look at as linebackers. These two guys take about half the shots. Once they get it they both look to shoot. They prefer the right side and everyone else on the left. Fant will always go to his left if he can. He likes to get the ball down low with the defender on his back. From the left side he will roll left into the middle and shoot a jump hook shot with his right hand. On the right side he will roll left to the corner of the board for a right hand lay- up. Every left hand shot was shot from the left side, and he missed both times when forced to shoot with his left hand. If double teamed he will look to pass out and reposition. If he receives the ball facing the basket from the 10-12 foot range and uncontested, he can make that shot. Price and Fant will work the pick-n-roll from the right side. Fant is also the only player I seen defensively leave his feet to contest a shot. He will bite on the pump fake about half the time.

Price has never seen a shot he does not like. He shoots more NBA threes when he does not need to than any player I’ve seen this year. He reminds me of Marcus Smart in physical presence and shoots plenty of shots to get his points. He will share, but mostly with Fant or out to Harris if he drives and has nowhere to go. Like Fant he prefers to go to the right and does not seem comfortable going left. Price loves to shoot off the dribble, almost always trying to create.

Harris is a catch and shoot player but given a chance he will put it on the floor and drive the lane, usually to dish out for another shooter.

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Tops (3)

Rostov the center never leaves his feet on defense, the entire team sets up to take charges in the paint. They stay planted with arms up and do not challenge shots. They look for drawing a player-control foul or steal a pass. If our guards do penetrate, they must pull up and shoot or throw the alley-oop. They switch defenses quite regularly between a man and a zone. Rostov forgets his block out assignments when they switch from one to the other. Rostov gets out of position defensively when his man does a drop step which leads to easy baskets. When he jumps out on a guard to hedge a pick, he losses track of his guy and the ball handler could follow right behind him to an easy path to the basket while he runs to the rim trying to figure out where his man went.

All four guards mentioned as well as Kaspar are good defenders and they all love to pick off a lazy pass or make a quick steal when the ball handler is not paying attention, especially Crook and Price. Harris normally relieves Crook at point when Crook is in foul trouble.

Crook dribbles mainly with his left and when he has a defender up in his space he pushes off with his right hand getting a player-control foul. He penetrates the lane several times out of control, and will charge into set players. In both games he sat a lot in foul trouble and I don’t recall any being a defensive foul.

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

In Tops (2) I mentioned that T.J.Price reminds me of Marcus Smart in physical presence. It's because he will at time play the point and uses his strength to power to the basket. He does not have the speed or athletic ability of Smart. Releford should be able to contain him. They do not run Price all over and set screens to free him up, once he gets the ball he tries to create his own shot. Fant is the only one we may have a little trouble with if Young and Ellis can't handle his strength. These two have matched up in the B12 with his type. Besides we always have Traylor.

Cameron Cederlind 5 years, 11 months ago

Watch out, you're taking up Jaybates space to write.

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Jaybate is my idol, of course Sheldon on the Big Bang comes in as a close second ; )

Bob Thompson 5 years, 11 months ago

Don't be surprised if the game is close at half time.

Dirk Medema 5 years, 11 months ago

He is a BIG boy with some crazy athleticism!

joeloveshawks 5 years, 11 months ago

I'm a bit surprised with all of the negative thoughts about how close this game might be. Obviously we can't look past any team (TCU) but we are a #1 seed playing 30 minutes from campus with multiple NBA players and a top 3 defense in the country. We should kill this team if we execute to the standards of a true #1 seed and an elite KU basketball team.

Tony Bandle 5 years, 11 months ago

+10000...Thank God, someone with the voice of reason...thx Joe, I feel like the proverbial man lost in the wilderness screaming at the top of his voice and no one hearing. This game will NOT BE CLOSE!!!!!

Lance Cheney 5 years, 11 months ago

We also SHOULD'VE killed Bucknell, Bradley, Northern Iowa, VCU, (and TCU - there, I said it). We had some good teams those years (the Bradley year could be the exception), and we all know how those ended up. Just because a team's roster is stacked with talent doesn't mean they're going to roll over a lesser team (see Kentucky last night). Christ, it wouldn't kill our fans to have a little humility. We're starting to sound like K-State fans here, saying we're gonna kill all these teams

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

It builds character to be lost in the wilderness. Enjoy it. :-)

JayHawkFanToo 5 years, 11 months ago

Saint Mary's (an undeserving team that was allowed in the tournament so Gonzaga could be justified as a #1 seed) handily beat Middle Tennessee, the class of the Sun Belt Conference, last evening. There is no reason why the coaches kids won't be playing with 5 minutes left in the game.

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

What you do if you are WKU?

~send your team out as loose as you can.

~Tell them to shoot three quick treys.

~If they make them, tell them to keep shooting till they miss; else next.

~Pull in the horns three possessions and try to draw fouls getting KU's defenders to leave the floor and then move under them. Draw a foul, or two. Its empowering. The best way to do this is to have your point guard drive and draw Withey one step in his direction, then dish to a guy that Jeff has to turn and one step to block. The guy who receives the dish always pump fakes then crowds under Jeff. Jeff's only vulnerability on blocking is the one step jump. It gets him moving sideways and thats when to run under him. Forget jumping up and in. He has that trick doped out. He is the master of going up straight and arching his back so it appears he is leaning away. He can do this because of his long skinny arms. Take what he gives you. Always, always, always get him to one step and jump, then run under. Frankly, it is amazing that the opposing coaches this season haven't tried doing this consistently. Teams have failed trying to take him to iron, and trying to stay away from him. Try getting under him. Even the whistle swallowers have to call a foul when a footer LANDS on a guy a half foot shorter.

~From the beginning of the game, on defense, and whether you have been successful, or not offensively, alternate blind side trapping EJ one trip and laying off and playing the passing lanes the next trip. Its obvious now that he hates changing coverages. Also coach your guys to trip him on the shovel passes. That will psyche him into wanting to protect his knees. When he starts baking pop tarts, and Self shifts to Dir, simply deny Dir his high percentage spots by bodying him and shoving and tripping him on cuts to them. jeff requires constant tripping on offense. Alternate tripping and step on his feet every time he starts to pivot. And push out one time and pull in the next, as you alternate tripping and stepping on his feet too. He needs to know that he is constantly going to have to think about his feet. Big men made to think about their feet, are half beaten already.

Of course, there are counter measures to every one of these tactics, but this is what I would recommend to the WKU coach, if he were serious about trying to upset KU. Never, never, never play fair when the opponent has the advantage...unless you like to lose.

VaJay 5 years, 11 months ago

We need to show up early & take the wind out of their sails before they know what hit them. The problem is all the prognosticators are saying we're going to roll over them - I just hope coach doesn't let that get into the players' heads. I don't how good we are - we can't mail this one in.

Tony Bandle 5 years, 11 months ago

Love it when you post like that......you sound just like Hickory's Coach Norman Dale!!! Take that wrapped up program, pound your fist and yell, "go, go, go!!"

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

Expect a lob fest against the Tops, Fant is the only one that could defend this, Rostov will be slow to react and is lost at times on defense. On offense he should receive a three second call a few times a game. They have a good coach, and he coaches well what he has, he just does not have the ammo. The team has heart and are competitors. They will not challenge KU inside, and they don't move the ball from side to side but maybe once or twice, but once Price or Fant get the ball, expect a shot to come. Jeff can help out weak side against Fant because if gets double teamed he will almost always toss back out. Their bigs are not very good interior passers. I'm sure if Fant had someone to receive the pass he could but Rostov or Drane do not look to get the ball.

Reeford will be able to lock down Price, that leaves Crook and Harris. Both are shoot wide open three or dribble drive and dish. After watching the B12 for a couple months it's difficult to watch this half-court offense, very little movement without the ball (I will concede this was the last two games of a four games in four days tourney run).

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

"On a Possible VCU Match-Up and Beyond"

Part 1

Looking back with 20/20 hindsight, the same thing is apparent about the loss to VCU that was apparent during the game itself. Shaka had XTReme Conditioned his team. Shaka saw that our players had been bulked up to play push and shove. Shaka saw that our bulked up starters couldn't guard hard for 40. Shaka saw that he had one guy--his big--who was a 260 pounder with a motor second to none and cardio vascular capacity that not one of KU's bigs could match up with.

So: Shaka did the smart thing. Frankly, he took a page from Self's book. Self has since the year before the ring team liked to use the weave to make opponents slide alot BEFORE the shot is taken. The idea is that a good bit of sliding means your impact players are going to be able to out-jump their defender and get a clean look. The weave creates leg fatigue for the sliding defender, while the offensive player gets to lope along effortlessly straight forward. Shaka knew his entire team was vastly better conditioned than were KU's bulkies. Shaka decided: let's make them all leg dead, not just the perimeter shooters. So: instead of a weave, Shaka just stretched his motion offense all over the floor. Every cut was a cross court cut with a lot of arc to it to make it even longer. The idea was to make the KU players slide long, long distances all the time on every play.

Shaka new one more thing. Shaka knew the KU bulkies had expended a bunch of their energy budget the game before against Richmond's Princeton offense. KU had won, but it had been a grind it out kind of defensive effort of the kind Self expects his players to be able to do. Shaka knew that Richmond had taken KU's bulkies to the limit of their budget. All he and his team had to do was run KU's bulkies for a game, guard them hard, get KU bent over, and that killed two birds with one tactical stone. KU's good outside shooters would go leg dead and shoot a lousy trey percentage. And KU's bulkies inside would tire and not only lose their shooting touches, but then get manhandled by Shaka's 260 pound big man with the turbo charged motor.

Shaka's plan worked almost perfectly. Self's seemingly invincible Jayhawk boot campers suddenly were out of their depth in terms of conditioning, they lost their ability score, then they lost their composure, then fatigue left them deer caught in head lights as VCU's point guard ran effortlessly through them and VCU's 260 pounder treated the Morri like two ragamuffins.

Note however the conditions that Shaka required to pull it off.

  1. KU had to enter the game with a depleted energy budge.

  2. KU had to be bulkie and in lesser condition.

  3. KU's bulked up bigs still had to be outweighed by 20 pounds by Shaka's big man.

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

Part 2

Now contemplate the conditons that would hold were KU to play VCU this year.

  1. KU's starters are in superb condition and Self will be sure to sub a lot if there were a game before VCU.

  2. KU's starters are carrying no extra bulk, and are used to going 35-40 minutes.

  3. KU's bigs are use to playing guys that outweight them 20-30 pounds per man and are running a spread high low offense used specifically to let them use their mobility against bigger opponents.

Self and Hudy learned their lesson from Shaka. Self said that when he looked at Shaka's 3 and 4 stars and his 4 and 5 stars there just wasn't that much difference. What he left unsaid, but implied, was that Shaka's teams's superior conditioning had made the difference.

This year's KU team is in unbelievable condition; that is why it has won so many close games, and why it has finally broken so many teams down at the end.

KU's commitment to XTReme Conditioning was revealed three key moments this season.

--Withey was not bulked up, but rather lean muscled above the waist and heavy muscled in the calves. Just watch Jeff jump. The guy is a tireless jumping maching during a game. Most of the time he is not using alot of his spring, but he is using some almost all the time, when he is right. And when Jeff gets a good one, or two step jump, his hands are at the top of the shooters box every time on the throw down on dunks. He is incredibly well conditioned. Lean, lean, lean, sinewy, mean.

--KU did three-a-day practicing the week before the conference season started. This was the dead give-away. At the time I thought Self was nuts for doing it. I thought sure it would burn them out early and cause at least a loss or two. And I think it did. I think the 3-game funk was much simpler than all of the speculations that have flown about what caused the 3 game funk. No background issue, no stuff going on, no matter how emotional it may be, causes a team to basically lose its shooting and defending legs for three games. That was most likely a delayed reaction to the XTReme Conditioning that was probably taken to a new level this season before the conference action started. What fooled me was the delay. They played 4 in 8 and struggled through with Ws, but sooner or later they were going to come up against a wall. Intense conditioning has a short term price that has to be paid sooner or later. The team finally paid it. But they came out of it harder, and tougher, and more able to play longer and harder than before. Withey, who last year could often barely go 20-25 hard minutes, now can play 35-38, and he can even play through OTs. Its his opponents that crack now, not Withey.

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

Part 3

--Lastly, there was the telling remark by Travis Releford, when he came to the defense of his obviously respected and loved point guard, Elijah Johnson. He said that Elijah had done everything that had been asked of him. AND he said that Elijah has continually pushed himself never to ask to be taken out of play in practice. Travis implied that Elijah, despite the injuries, has stayed on the court in practice day after day after day, when he could probably barely make it, to try to lead the team into the level of conditioning, that allows the level of intensity of play, that Self has said that this team requires to avoid getting very average in a hurry. Think about this. A senior guard wearing quilts and knee irons and blue hub caps is out their pushing his own endurance beyond that of what his teammates believe he could do, probably beyond what they thought they could do! This is awesome. This is epic stuff. This is the kind of heroism and commitment that raises teammates and teams to the next level of greatness.

So if KU eventually finds VCU in its path, Shaka Smart is not going to be holding the conditioning aces this time. Self will not let his team deplete itself the game before, if there were a game before. And Self's Jayhawks leaned to running gears are going to play it anyway Skaka wants. They are going to beat Shaka at his own game. And Shaka knows this going in. And Skaka knows that he is not a better coach than Self unless he has the conditioning aces. Shaka doesn't have Jeff Withey. Shaka doesn't have Ben Mac. Shaka doesn't have the best seven players in the country. And most importantly, Shaka doesn't have the best conditioned team in the country.

Jay Bilas knows his basketball. Jay says VCU will win this region. Jay is banking everything on EJ not being able to protect the ball against VCU's guards, or anyone else's.

I say he will, when there is no other way to get it done.

I say Elijah Johnson will do whatever he has to do to beat VCU, or anyone else.

Elijah Johnson is on a mission.

And its deeper than just one man, one season, one ring.

It is about overcoming ridiculous adversity.

It hasn't been pretty a lot of the time.

His tool box hasn't always had all his tools.

He has had to fashion a lot of things out of bailing wire and tacks and pliers to get through.

But the Prophet HAS gotten through.

And even Jay Bilas doesn't understand the kind of drive that has propelled Elljah Johnson to survive 2/3s of a D1 season on 1 knee, while leading a team into XTReme Condition, and winning a share of a 9th conference title, and then driving himself and his team to 3 in 3 for outright claim to the title.

The man can score 39 points on 1.5 knees.

Nothing is written about Elijah Johnson.

Nothing.

WETSUhawk 5 years, 11 months ago

EJ is a better ball handler than his critics ( ME ) and stats say. He actually handles the ball well, a majority of his turn overs are ill advised passes down court or lazy half-court passes. Earlier in the year he would drive and go airborne with nowhere to go. The latter he has quit doing the last month, but the careless passing happens several times a game. When he decides mentally not to be careless with the ball, he is a dangerous guard with the ball in his hands.

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

Part 4

KU will take VCU if the match up arises.

Starting a month ago I said this team was a serious threat to win a ring if Perry got it together. He did.

Before the tournament seeding, I was very confident that this team would win it all.

But the seeding committee apparently stacked the deck on KU.

It is ridiculous the quality and number and kinds of teams KU is going to have to beat to get out of this regional to a Final Four.

They apparently stacked it with Self's nemesis: Ratso Izzo.

They apparently stacked it with KU's most difficult match up player possible: Shabazz.

They apparently stacked it with the only other team and coach that appear capable of matching Self and KU at this time: Florida and Donovan.

They apparently stacked it and apparently didn't even try to hide that they were stacking it.

They apparently want a big market team to come out of this south regional, apparently because they've got a risk of having Gonzaga come out of the west. The TV ratings can't stand two lesser market teams in the Final Four.

But everyone likes a Cinderalla story. And its easy to package and sell. And best of all, its a Cinderella from a state with twice the eye balls that Kansas has. What could be better?

A Cinderella is less likely to win it all once it gets to the Final Four than a Bill Self coached Kansas team is.

Oh, yes, this South regional was apparently stacked.

But it is at junctures like this, when amazing individuals sometimes become agents that impact beyond their roles, and in ways the powers that be could not foresee.

To the seeding committee, to many KU fans, even apparently to Jay Bilas, who ought to know better, Elijah Johnson seems just a honorable mention all conference selection with a weak knee and a tendency to turn over.

But to those of us that have followed him closely through his incredible ups and downs for the last four years, we know there is a player with the kind of burning desire to overcome obstacles that most ordinary players, and even many great players lack.

We know the 39 point performance is always inside him.

We know that a seasoned, uniquely talented team at several positions, in XTReme Condition, capable of going 2 OTs any time its necessary, maybe even 3 or 4, lead by an extraordinary human being like Elijah Johnson will not look at the apparent stacking as an ordinary team would.

They will say: the world was never fair to us before we got to KU. The world has not been fair to us while we have been at KU. And it has apparently not been fair to us now. But listen up world. We are titled up, all of us. We are winners and we have come for the ring.

jaybate 5 years, 11 months ago

Part 5

They remind me a bit of two great NCAA champions.

Don Haskins great UTEP team comes to mind for reasons too complicated to go into here and now.

But also the North Carolina State team with David Thompson, Monty Towe and Tom Burleson. Few really believed that Wolf Pack team could break UCLA's streak. Few really believed a team with a teeny point guard like Monty Towe could win it all. Towe was so limited, so unlike the usual guard that leads a team to greatness and a ring. Yes, it had Burleson, but he was just tall and skinny. Yes, they had the superstar in David Thompson, but superstars alone can't get it done alone.

But Thompson wasn't alone; that was what no one understood about that great, great, great NC State team of Norm Sloan's.

Towe had the competitive fury and will and wiliness of any four point guards. Towe had fought against the odds for so long he didn't understand anything but fighting against the odds.

6-4, one time 5-star, Elijah Johnson and 5-7 Monty Towe may seem an odd comparison to most readers. But Elijah Johnson playing point guard on one knee is an even bigger achievement than Monte Towe playing point guard at 5-7.

Elijah Johnson has known so much adversity during his KU years that, like Towe, it just doesn't mean anything to him any more.

The once supremely talented Elijah, now knows what Monte Towe knew.

Out on the wood, its a dog fight. And it ain't the size of the dog, but the size of the fight in the dog that matters now. The seeding committee has done what it was going to do. The seeding committee has to live with itself. What it did, or didn't do, doesn't matter now.

All that matters is how much fight there is in the dog.

I say there is one hell of a lot of fight in this dog I have been calling the Prophet, since he was a freshman.

I say he's got a tireless pack of dogs running with him.

I say of all the packs of dogs out there, this one has a better chance than any.

But there is a lot of blood to be let in the first two team tournaments, some injuries, and some unforeseen performances and bad calls in the next two 2-game tourneys, before we can before we can reliably forecast what will happen if they reach the Final Four.

But I really like this team.

Really, really like this team.

Go, Elijah, go!

Where you lead, the pack will follow.

Rock Chalk!!!!

Michael Luby 5 years, 11 months ago

Wow, great stuff Jaybate. Gets me psyched up just reading it. Wish u could send it to the players. I agree wholeheartedly. I really love this team. In fact, its my favorite in the Self era next to the 08 team. I also think Bilas is wrong this time about KU. I tweeted those sentiments to him as well. If it pans out that KU and VCU meet again, Self and Co. will be ready. They wont get blindsided. We need our Senior leaders, we need our all star freshmen and Naadir to keep their jitters at home and play lights out for 6 more games. That's it, just 6 more.

Scott Smetana 5 years, 11 months ago

I think the biggest key to this tourney is which EJ will show up. And how quick Tharpe will come off the bench to save us if the bad EJ emerges.

Scott Smetana 5 years, 11 months ago

PS - Awesome analysis WETSU... I don't like how they have big men. I like rebounding the heck out of inferior teams.

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