Originally published March 17, 2013 at 05:14p.m., updated March 18, 2013 at 12:18a.m.

KU earns No. 1 seed in South region

Kansas players make their way out of a NCAA selection show watch party at the fieldhouse on Sunday, March 17, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse. From left are Kevin Young, Perry Ellis, Niko Roberts, Evan Manning, Travis Releford and Christian Garrett. Kansas was selected as the number 1 seed in the South Regional and will play Western Kentucky in the field of 64 on Friday in Kansas City.

Kansas players make their way out of a NCAA selection show watch party at the fieldhouse on Sunday, March 17, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse. From left are Kevin Young, Perry Ellis, Niko Roberts, Evan Manning, Travis Releford and Christian Garrett. Kansas was selected as the number 1 seed in the South Regional and will play Western Kentucky in the field of 64 on Friday in Kansas City.



As of 7 p.m. Sunday, there still were limited single tickets available to the second and third rounds in Kansas City, Mo., through Sprint Center's website and also tickets available at KU's next potential site in Arlington, Texas, through Ticketmaster.

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Kansas University’s basketball team — the same team that lost three consecutive games in early February — on Sunday was awarded a No. 1 seed in the 2013 NCAA Tournament.

“We’re the No. 2 overall seed in the tournament — the No. 2 overall seed. Who would have ever thought that would be the case with this team?” KU coach Bill Self said enthusiastically after learning his Jayhawks (29-5) had been awarded the No. 1 seed in the South Regional and will meet Western Kentucky (20-15) in a first-round NCAA Tournament contest approximately 8:50 p.m. Friday in Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

“I never thought six weeks ago this team would be where it is,” added Self, whose team was awarded the second of the No. 1 seeds behind Louisville, with Indiana and Gonzaga trailing the Jayhawks. “We had nothing going on. We had no personality, no bounce. We were duds, maybe feeling a little sorry for ourselves, questioning ourselves, lost a little confidence. Fortunately when they got it back they got it back in a big way.”

KU not only won its ninth-straight Big 12 regular-season title, but took the conference tournament crown. The players, who watched the Selection Show in KU’s Naismith Room, were shown applauding when CBS revealed the Jayhawks had earned a No. 1 for the 11th time in school history and first time since 2011.

The winner of KU-WKU will meet North Carolina or Villanova on Sunday, with Michigan, Georgetown and Florida also in the region.

“They were happy,” Self said of his players. “I told them we were probably going to be 50/50 a 1 or 2. I don’t think the committee did us any favors. Obviously it’s a tough bracket. The so-called experts would probably say arguably this is the toughest bracket of the four. We’re excited about it. We’re certainly happy to be a 1 seed. Now the goal is not to be a 1 seed. The goal is to go play like a 1 seed.”

The Jayhawks were elated to be accorded a top seed in the South, which culminates with Sweet 16 and Elite Eight games to be played in Dallas.

“(We’re) definitely excited,” senior point guard Elijah Johnson said. “Just to hear someone call you as a No. 1 means you have been one of the best-performing teams around. It’s an honor to be a No. 1 seed regardless of how you use it. Most teams tend to use it as an advantage. That’s what we plan on doing instead of thinking we’ve got a title. We just want to show why we are a No. 1 seed.”

Noted senior center Jeff Withey: “We’re excited to be a No. 1 seed. It’s not going to be easy at all. We’ve got to look at everything as a two-day tournament almost. We don’t know too much about Western Kentucky right now. We’re excited to be playing against them. We know we are going to get everybody’s best shot. They are on a roll right now after winning their (Sun Belt) tournament. I’m sure they will come in feeling really confident. We have to take them serious and give everything we’ve got.”

Former KU coach Roy Williams’ North Carolina Tar Heels (24-10) loom as a possible second-round foe if the Heels can get past Villanova (20-13) at 6:20 p.m. Friday.

KU beat Williams’ Tar Heels in the 2008 Final Four and 2012 regional finals.

“Who knows if that will happen, if it’ll play out that way. I know we are focused on Western Kentucky,” Self said. “If it goes in that direction and we both win a game, I’m sure Kansas City will have a little interest in that one based on the past. We know if it does happen we’ll be playing a great team.”

Williams told his school’s official website that he was “disappointed” the ACC had just four teams reach the tournament: No. 2 seeds in Duke and Miami and No. 8s in Carolina and N.C. State.

“I was surprised, not just surprised but disappointed for our league,” Williams said. “You look around ... some other teams in our league I think deserve to be in. It shows almost no respect to have two 2s and the next two teams to be 8s. To me that’s disappointing. It really is. The bottom line is that’s what happened. Now you’ve got to go play.”

Big 12 represented: Self on the Big 12 getting five teams (KU, K-State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State) in the tourney: “I didn’t think we had a chance at six. I thought Baylor would have to make some hay in the tournament to get to six. I think our league did pretty well. Any time you get 50 percent of the teams in, you are probably having a pretty good year.”

A No. 16 seed has never beaten a 1: “It will happen eventually,” Self said. “Certainly we don’t want that to happen. I’ll pull for all the 1 seeds to make sure that doesn’t happen this year if I need to do that. ... There will be a lot of mild upsets in this tournament,” he added because of increased parity.

They know each other: Western Kentucky coach Ray Harper and KU coach Self are friends.

“He is one of the best coaches in America,” Harper told the Bowling Green Daily News. “When I was the coach at Oklahoma City (University), we dealt with each other a lot. Actually had one of his kids that worked out with us in the summer (OKC native Darnell Jackson). His grandmother had been sick. We let him stay in Oklahoma City for the summer, and we worked him out, and he was projected to be a backup, and he ended up as their starting center, and they won the national championship, and he ended up being a (second-round) draft pick.”

Tapes: Self said KU already had a batch of tape on Western Kentucky thanks to modern technology. KU has tape of all major-college teams available on its computer system.

More on game time: KU’s game on Friday will start approximately 8:50 p.m., or 30 minutes after a 6:20 p.m. contest between Villanova and North Carolina.

Perfection: KU is one of three teams with perfect APR scores and 100 percent graduation rates of the 68 teams in the tournament, NCAA Research tweeted on Sunday. Notre Dame and Belmont are the others. Six teams in the tourney have perfect APRs: KU, Notre Dame, Belmont, Butler, Memphis and Michigan. Eleven teams have 100 percent graduation rates: KU, Belmont, Bucknell, Duke, Davidson, Harvard, Illinois, Pacific, Notre Dame, Villanova and Western Kentucky.

Here are all the seeds in the South region:

  1. Kansas
  2. Georgetown
  3. Florida
  4. Michigan
  5. VCU
  6. UCLA
  7. San Diego State
  8. North Carolina
  9. Villanova
  10. Oklahoma
  11. Minnesota
  12. Akron
  13. South Dakota State
  14. Northwestern State
  15. Florida Gulf Coast
  16. Western Kentucky


Ben Kane 8 years, 7 months ago

i think the comittee is trying to tell us something. unc and vcu.

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I think we have the most difficult region. None of our matches will be a given. Barring any upsets in the region and assuming we take care of business against WKU (knock on wood), how about this for a road to the final four: KU vs UNC. KU vs Michigan/VCU. KU vs Georgetown/Florida. Crazy..

Marc Frey 8 years, 7 months ago

IDK, Loiusville, Duke and Michigan State is a tough 1 2 3.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

I would go with 2nd toughest region....but if there are a lot of upsets (which I think there will be) then it just comes down to "survive and advance".

Sorry for the cliché but it says it best.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Repeat after me in an Elmer Fudd voice:

"Kill the Jayhawk, kill the Jayhawk!"

Woody Cragg 8 years, 7 months ago

Also appropriate in EL Fuddpucker dialect as well. He doesn't know how to say GONNNNNZZZAGAAAAA.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Suggested new spelling for the Zags.



Steve Reigle 8 years, 7 months ago

Don't forget Villanova. And Michigan. And Florida. And Georgetown. And some others, too.

Sae Thirtysix 8 years, 7 months ago

Good bracket - no easy ride, so lets Rock Chalk!!

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

Tough 3rd round with Michigan if we and they get that far. UNC in the 2nd round? An intriguing matchup. They made the final 4 as an 8 seed back in 00.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

Agree that the UNC matchup is very intriguing but HCBS has done well playing against our former coach. I don't see an upset happening here

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

UNC had a different coach in 2000. However, Roy and KU were an 8 seed as well in 2000 but we (and ol' Roy) ended up losing in the second round to Duke. It may very well happen again to Roy again, but this time against Kansas.

Steve Zimmerman 8 years, 7 months ago

Dickie's picked a KU upset by Michigan in his bracket. I want to see a block & dunk parties by KU - if we made it that far. Michigan is not a threat, if KU can perform O & D like they have been in B12 conf. I want to see our team fired up for each game - we made it this far already. Who would've expected. Let's give them a surprise. Rock Chalk!

MrPilot 8 years, 7 months ago

Not only a #1 seed, but the 2nd overall #1 seed. Wow!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

mdm7eb 8 years, 7 months ago

Wife goes to grad school at VCU this time around. We will win (if it is to be). Plus VCU has been up and down this year. The UNC game could be a lot of fun! Saw UVA punk them at UVA. Self will make Roy cry (again if it happens).

Jim Roth 8 years, 7 months ago

I look forward to playing VCU again. Thinking we're not likely to lose that one. Plenty of motivation.

lothario64118 8 years, 7 months ago

KU has some players from that game. It'll be okay. No one is too cocky anymore on this team. Regeular seasoned proved it.

Bust UNC and smoke Michigan.

CORRECTION: if VCU-Akron-SDSU make it to EE and meets KU Self better not have that stupid smirk on his face or that over-bloated ego...again.

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

The Morris twins are gone. Their immature attitude in the VCU game cost us another national championship.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

The Morris twins? They combined for more points than the rest of the team. They had 28 out of 45 rebounds.

Morningstar had 2 points, going 1/7 and a grand total of 3 assists. Reed made 1 basket the entire game going 1/9. EJ had 1 point and the rest of the bench had a total of 3.

Taylor was the only other player who did well. I just can't figure how you can blame the Morris brothers.

utahjayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

They played well but they shot their mouths off before the game and fired VCU up.

mattiesdad 8 years, 7 months ago

Because they talked smack and riled up a good team. They were arrogant and immature and the pride led to the proverbial fall.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

But in LARGE PART they motivated VCU even more than they were with some smack-talk in the hallways.

Jeffery Barrett 8 years, 7 months ago

He's talking about when one of them told the VCU players before the game that their run stops here. VCU players said that fueled their fire throughout the game. Here: And here:

Michael Pannacciulli 8 years, 7 months ago

Who cares? We should be pumped to play these guys...

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Hypothesis: They don't hate KU. They just want to stack the region with big media market teams to make it highly probable that either:

a) a big market team reaches the Final Four; or

b) the season long overhyping of these big market teams and under hyping of KU results in unrealistic betting lines that can be used to shear sheep and generate gaming revenues to offset the lost TV revenues of KU, or another small market team, reaching the Final Four.

Essentially, the hypothetical premise here is a media-gaming complex revenue structure perhaps underpins the NCAA Division 1 revenue structure. In the hypothesis, the needs of the underlying revenue structure must be met in order for the NCAA superstructure to be met.

Just a hypothesis though. :-)

P.S. not suggesting a conspiracy, or anything being illegal. Just a possible enterprise regime with certain structural requirements.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

Interesting. I would have thought you would have KU a big market team because of their solid fan base that never seems to grow tired of KU basketball.

I've seen KU play in several venues on the East Coast and they ALWAYS have a large following. I think the committee would be more than happy to see KU in the Final Four. I do understand the concept of large market teams but I don't think anyone is clamoring to see St. Johns in the Final Four.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

KU has a great tradition. It has built up its brand value by being consistently a top team for the last 25 years especially.

But its my impression that KU is not a very big draw outside of Kansas and its fan base. It is a bigger draw nationally than Kansas State, or Wichita, but it just does not appeal to a population base big enough to create TV ratings and betting revenues on a scale with good basketball schools were they located in (or able to draw from) the states and regions I have listed below.

The state of Kansas has a population of about 2.9 million persons.

Massachussetts 6.6 million Connecticut 3.6 New York (state) 19 million New Jersey 8.8 million Maryland 5.9 million Virginia 8.1 million North Carolina 9.8 million South Carolina 4.7 million Georgia 9.9 million Florida 19.3 million Alabama 4.8 million Louisiana 4.6 million

Kentucky 4.3 million Tennessee 6.4 million Missouri 6 million

Michigan 9.8 million Ohio 11.5 million Pennsylvania 12.7 million Indiana 6.5 million Illinois 12,9 million

Texas 26 million

California 38 million Washington 6.9 million Oregon 3.9 million

But I suspect not even the TV revenues arereally where the big numbers are in the college basketball business.

Its the gambling revenues.

You mention St. Johns. Its a one time great program. Its in a huge media market.

St. Johns, after so many years of mediocrity, may or may not be able to meet or beat the number of televisions KU can attract, but I bet the betting St. Johns can attract is staggering in comparison to KU.

Jeremy Paul 8 years, 7 months ago

I sometimes agree with half of the things you write on here, but I at least find you intelligent enough to be above the conspiracy theories . What if, instead of media markets or population/potential gambler sizes, the committee did their bracketing based on graduation rates, in order to highlight the academic integrity of the NCAA? Or what if they placed teams based on the geographical percentage of foreign vs domestic car ownership in order to boost the American car industry? Personally, I think Obama was behind it all, and the schools were bracketed based on regional gun ownership so that the most armed areas have a higher percentage of being angry when their teams lose and they all shoot each other, thus drastically reducing the number of gun owners and furthering his Muslim-communist takeover of the world.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Bogus. It's not like there are Kansas fans ONLY in Kansas. Much like Duke where you encounter fans for them & UNC, etc. across the country, I've heard of plenty of KU fans nationwide. I know I see 'em in Iowa, California, Virginia...all over!!!

Steve Zimmerman 8 years, 7 months ago

True, ESPN hates KU, too - it's been that way. I could care less. Besides: Kentucky plays an NIT game Tuesday -- on the road because Rupp is taken for the NCAAs -- at Robert Morris.......

Now that's awesome!

wrwlumpy 8 years, 7 months ago

Picture Wildcat nation going on the road the first night of the NIT and somehow make their way to this gym and have fewer fans than the home team.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

We have those who USUALLY like us - this new Seth Greenberg ALWAYS seems to like us. Bilas has USUALLY been favoring us - but was lauding VCU last night.

Dick usually hates us. Digger's inconsistent in how he views us. Some seasons he loves us and some he doesn't.

Joe Baker 8 years, 7 months ago

Check out the "expert" Myron Medcalf of ESPN's bold predictions. 1. KU will not get to Atlanta. He starts his bold predictions with this #1 prediction. It correlates with the fact they are a #1 seed. He doesn't think they get to the F4. However, he does make some pretty stupid claims throughout his "bold predictions." Good grief, this guy works for ESPN and he contradicts his own "bold" picks.

Myron wins my bball moron of the year award, MOYA.

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

The committe did KU a favor in the first weekend. According to Jesse in his 5-minute scouting report the Jayhawks can get past a Western Kentucky's upset bid (which I have little insight on except for Jesse's post).

Let's keep in mind that Villanova, a team that went 10-8 in the regular season, recently beat the 2 seed Georgetown Hoya's at home though Villanova has had clear problem on the road this year.

Being a KU website we are all interested in that KU v NC match-up in the third round. That's understandable so let's dig into the Tarheel's this year. And before we do that let's be clear that this is not the best teams, by a long shot, that North Carolina, Villanova and VCU has put on the floor in recent memory. I do think that Georgetown got the easier draw though our side of the draw is very favorable when you look at who we have from the Big 10 in our bracket and the fact that we don't have to play Louisville until the final.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

"Let's keep in mind that Villanova, a team that went 10-8 in the regular season, ..."

Wow, I would have thought that Villanova had played more games than that.

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

To extend upon previous personal perceptions about Roy Williams coaching ability from earlier this season, this is not the typical North Carolina team that has captured the popular opinion of what Roy Williams coached teams are. This Tarheel team captures how creative and adaptive that this staff is when building a team around the talent they have over the course of a year.

Expect North Carolina to play a half court style of play. Yes, like all teams, they will run and play a fast break. They don't have the overly talented point guard this year to dominate at an extremely high tempo nor do they have the big man rotation-which again is a generality that people who don't follow North Carolina expect out of a Williams team.

It's really important that you throw all of your generalities away about Roy Williams and the Tarheel's this year because North Carolina Blue already did that about a month ago. They went small, they were well coached as a 4 guard/1 big team in half court sets, and it earned Carolina 3rd in the ACC regular season and runner up in the tournament.

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

As a Kansas basketball fan you like this match up with the Tarheels. The ACC semi-final and finals should be proof enough. In the semi-finals–which I enjoyed very much since it was mentor Roy vs student Turgeon the Surgeon–North Carolina struggled to put away an 8-10 Maryland team that matched up just fine with what Carolina had to offer. Carolina shot their brains out from three point land for the first 35 minutes, then they did a good job of getting to the rim for the next 10 minutes due to some arc overplay, then Carolina simply got out done by a bigger, more talented Miami team. Give Roy, the staff and his boys some credit to get to the last 5 minutes of grabbing some hardware this year.

North Carolina simply does not have an answer for Withey and Macadoo, who has a bulging disc, is no Georges Niang on the perimeter. North Carolina will have to make as many shots as they did against Miami in the ACC final to hang with KU on the perimeter and they will be dueling with KU shooters who are certainly comfortable in the Sprint Center. Just to pile on the obvious, the Tarheel's will be challenged on the glass at both ends of the court. Remember that the first 3 of North Carolina's frontline are no longer on the roster and they had to go small in the middle of conference play because they could not fill that void.

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

When I transition to Carolina 'shooting their brains out' that was a transition to the ACC Final against Miami that I failed to write into the thought. Watch it on ESPN3 if you want to see two teams make a bunch of jumpers for the first 35 minutes.

Plus, when I say"the first 3 of North Carolina's frontline are no longer on the roster", I'm referencing last years team that we beat in the Elite 8 that did an excellent job on the boards.

(I blame too much basketball this weekend on these writing mistakes :-) please bear with me.)

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

Of course KU can not be too over confident because North Carolina showed in the ACC tournament that they are well coached in the half court.

Tarheel's rely on solid team man to man defense, their switches and rotations are respectable, they do a good job crashing the defensive boards as a team though they lack a dominant rebounder, and they did have some glaring breakdowns against a Miami team they faced for a third time.

On offense they have some shooters that can hit the jumper and will need to do that if they hope to penetrate the lane to get some close in looks for their perimeter scorers. North Carolina will change up their looks in the half court set and be much more deliberate in creating open shots: they will run sets with multiple screens clustering at different parts of the floor to try to shake one of their shooters loose, much like a motion offense; they will go flat along the free throw stripe to try to get a mismatch dribble penetration when they can sense their point guard is not super talented at breaking down a defender on the dribble; they will spread out to dump down into the paint for McAdoo or try to run some junk to get McAdoo some space though they really had a hard time creating a post presence with him in the Miami game; they will set multiple screens along the arc to free a jump shooter; they will spread out and let P.J. Hairston do his thing though he really can't do it any better on this team than he did it against Miami.

Don't be dazzled by Carolina Blue this year. Yes, Carolina is capable. Yet, KU matches up really well against this Tarheel team and, if it does happen, this should be an opportunity for Kansas to show their quality this year. Carolina Blue and a chance to dance the Sweet 16 will have the Jayhawks ready. Roy and the boys will have to muster something up better than what they came up with in the ACC final.

And if I have not convinced you yet then look at the Freshman point guard Marcus Paige and his match up against Johnson/Tharpe. That would be 'advantage Kansas'.

KJD 8 years, 7 months ago

A few more thoughts on why this isn't such a bad draw.

  • Michigan, after watching several Big 10 games these past couple of weeks, is our best draw out of the top 5 Big 10 teams. We were going to be in a region where one of them loomed and I wanted Michigan out of the 5. Why? We have Travis Releford to match up with Trey Burk and Rodney McGruder can let Trey know how much fun that is when a team depends on you scoring. Again, this Michigan team does not have a clear answer for a guy like Withey and you can look at Cody Zeller's success against them on the road recently as a reasonable measuring stick.

  • VCU is once again long, skinny and quick. They'll be able to press more than they did against St. Louis in the A-10 final though don't mistake this team as the same one that beat KU in the Elite Eight. They are springy, sure, though the rotation of Withey, Young, Ellis and Traylor is a mismatch if Elijah and Tharpe find their composure. The biggest difference in facing VCU is that KU will have much more time to prepare for the VCU press. Self will have the primary rotation of 7 going against an 8 man, practice team press on Tuesday and Wednesday, just like he did in preparation against the #9 UAB Blazers back in 2004.

Redlandsjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

KJD thanks for the great synopsis. I feel much more encouraged now. Great work.

duanep5ku 8 years, 7 months ago

KJD Thank's for the great breakdowns on the teams.

Alec White 8 years, 7 months ago

Carolina is playing really well for an 8 seed but I welcome the chance to beat North Carolina for the second straight year in the tourney! I like our draw---I think we have the easiest path of all the #1 seeds. Rockchalk!

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

by far IU has the easiest road, they were fortunate to avoid GTown as a 2 in the east as well Marquette joins the long line of undeserving Big East seeds throughout the years, absurd they'd get a 3 seed instead of SLU

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

OSU over UNM in LA? Not so sure about that. OSU was in my preseason top5 and I've been touting D Thomas as B1G POY all season, but UNM is the top 3seed and nobody in the top6 is overseeded in that bracket. Zona is one of the toughest 6's, Wisconsin is a top 5seed, KSU is a tough 4 seed. It's one of the few regions with reasonable seeding.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

Uh, you might want to mention Michigan in your solid teams that could knock us off list. They are good enough to have been #1 ranked for a week at least.

Alec White 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm really not that worried with any of the teams you mentioned. Obviously we can lose to all of them, but are you really going to lose sleep because VCU is in our bracket? Michigan is the scariest team by far...Florida and Georgetown are overrated in my opinion. I'm not saying we have a cake walk to the Final Four---I just like how we match up with the other top teams in our bracket.

John Randall 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm sure we can't lose to ALL of them. In this tourney, one loss is all you are allowed. Any ONE of them might beat us, but only one.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Seriously... no idea what you're thinking calling it the "easiest path." Our bracket is absolutely loaded. Us and Louisville easily got hardest regions. Indiana's is a total cake-walk.

Steve Jacob 8 years, 7 months ago

KU got a pretty good bracket, except for the 8-9 game winner.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

GTown, Florida, Michigan, and VCU, maybe the toughest 1-5, and UNC should have been a 6 seed. The East is a joke, but the Midwest and the South are brutal.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago


With u here. Easily the toughest bracket.

Stacked asymmetrically TO...THE...MAX.

FarSideHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Didn't want to see VCU on our side of the bracket. Would much rather play against Michigan.

UNC could be dangerous in 2nd round, but I like our style of basketball against Roy's.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

mdm7eb 8 years, 7 months ago

UNC has talent but soft. Have we every seen that before? VCU is a wild card but I like our chances. Hard to best Self more than once.

FarSideHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

VCU plays disruptive defense and shoots a lot of 3s. That's always hard to predict and plan against.

I would love to avenge that loss, but I think we match up better with Michigan.

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Shaka Smart prepares his team well for the tourney. He's 20-5 in the tourney. I actually prefer KU facing Michigan over VCU. We'll certainly have problems facing against Smart's havoc style and we'll need strong point guard play to counter it, which hasn't been as consistent as in years past.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Jay Bilas has VCU going to the Final Four.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

I saw that... Fairly surprising choice from someone who I respect. But in the end, it just a prediction. According to Nostradamus and the Mayan Indians, the world should have ended in December 2012.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

I want VCU... They have a similar offense to that of Iowa State just not as good. They also have a talented coach but I'll take Fred Hoiberg over Smart.

Last time we were taken by surprise. I remember Jay Bilas saying that VCU didn't pass the smell test and should not have been selected. I think HCBS and the rest of the team took VCU as a hiccup on the way to the Final Four That mistake will not happen again.

Michigan has much more talent. Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Glenn Robinson III all have the potential to make it into the NBA. Like us, they have had inconsistent guard play but their bench hasn't contributed as much, especially of late as we have been getting solid bench play from Ellis,Tharpe and Taylor.

Michigan played well in arguably this year's toughest conference. They easily beat Kansas State back in November. I think we would win either way but the easier path is through VCU and the revenge is a great motivator.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

You'd rather play Michigan than VCU? Really? Now this may be my Big10 bias coming through some, but Michigan is pretty darn good.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Sometimes is not how good the teams are but how well they match up. VCU likes to press and cause turnovers and shoot threes; both have been know to cause problems for KU.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

Michigan is talented for sure, but not known for defense.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Having said that Michigan's strength is on the perimeter too and I don't think they're too turnover prone. I would think that they actually matchup better w/ VCU than we do and should advance w/ the game between the two of them being in Auburn Hills.

Michael Bratisax 8 years, 7 months ago

JayHawkFanToo... Completely agree that matchups can trump talent but we didn't lose to VCU because of matchups. We just weren't prepared. I think everyone except Smart and his players thought we would walk over VCU as we did Richmond.

Our guard play (except Tyshawn) was horrendous, making only 2 baskets out of 16 shots. We fell into a trap in overlooking VCU as if we were already in the Final Four.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

No Kentucky!

Ohio St. is licking their chops. Gonzaga 1 seed, New Mexico 3 seed, KSt 4, UW 5. I love my Badgers almost as much as the Jayhawks, but OSU was given a gift here.

bwag 8 years, 7 months ago

Tharpe would need to start at point or play majority of time if we got VCU.

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

It's all psychological. If we go out thinking it will be a cake-walk, we struggle or lose. We lost all of our games except 1 to UNRANKED teams. If we get up for each game, we will play good. UNC could be tough but I don't think we will over-look them. Same with VCU. VCU plays hungry and we should too.

SaltLakeHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

If we wind up playing UNC, I think Tyshawn should be allowed to suit up, one more time.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 7 months ago

Ok .. we have trouble with teams when they play small?

Enter North Carolina. Roy switched to a small lineup during conference season and UNC has played significantly better.

Also, it appears the "Duke bias" thing is dormant for a season.

FarSideHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I was thinking the same. Plus, Roy must be extra motivated after the last two outings and will make sure they are ready.
I still think we can out-tough them and slow it down to half-court if needed to get them, but it is going to be tough this year.

Let's take care of the Hilltopper's first. They can make it tougher than usual in a 1-16 match.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 7 months ago

I think the Western Kentucky thing is helped by losing to TCU. We literally know we can lose to anybody. Self doesn't have to convince them of that.

UNC reminds me of a more talented Iowa St. But more importantly, the exact kind of team that creates match-up problems for us.

It seems that Ellis' ability to hit the 15-18 footer is something that would make it more difficult for a smaller lineup .. with KY in, KY's guy can sag and help on Withey.

Guarding UNC will be the challenge (And yes, they'll beat Villanova).

hawksfan08 8 years, 7 months ago

Completely agree that they are a tough matchup for us. However, I see more Okie State than ISU. They do play a true 5 in McAdoo so at least Withey can match up there unlike Iowa St. where their 5 is out taking 3's. If we end up playing UNC, I will damn near guarantee we end up in a tight game where we go triangle and 2 or box and 1 with the one on Hairston or two on Hairston and Bullock

John Randall 8 years, 7 months ago

Just looking at the last month, NC over 'Nova is the obvious call, but how hard will it be to keep Roy and his boys from looking ahead to the weekend???

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I think WAAAAYYYYY too many are automatically advancing UNC over Villanova. Don't "overlook" Villanova!

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

They took the year off 'cause they didn't have any NC locations to hook Duke and UNC up with.

Sarah Carr 8 years, 7 months ago

How about the Bucknell-Butler matchup??? Who ya' got?

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Those double-B teams (Bucknell Bisons, Bradley Braves) are a KU nightmare...and the Butler Bull Dogs fall into that category.

Brad Avery 8 years, 7 months ago

Roy back in Kansas City. AFH east. Should be fun.

Joe Ross 8 years, 7 months ago

Kansas has gained 8 wins on Kentucky this year. Hopefully Kansas will make a deep run...

Jim Roth 8 years, 7 months ago

How many rounds in the NIT? How many potential wins? I don't think I've ever paid much attention.

Jim Roth 8 years, 7 months ago

32 teams, 5 rounds.....5 potential wins.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago



Dang that did my heart good to see you step in it.

Why don't you finally enroll at KU and get a solid education, so you stop doing this to yourself?

Yeeeee Hawwwww! There's nothing as fun as watching JLost humiliate himself for free!

Do it again JLOST!

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Say, who from Santa Bennie should Self add to the kU staff now? :-)

Joe Ross 8 years, 7 months ago

I used to think you had no purpose here. I was wrong. You provide the amateurish comments that are necessary to keep a site like this going. I literally just laugh at you every time you make an "analysis". It DOES keep me in stitches. The quality of an analysis is NOT whether or not one turns out to be right or wrong. If this were the case, you would TRULY be useless because very little you say has any merit. If you'd have had your way Turner Gill would still be on campus and you'd still be in sackcloth and ashes over Roy's leaving. No, the quality of analysis rests in nothing else but its merit. This is why I giggle at you. Furthermore, I was right in my analysis of your homerism. Furthermore yet you are wrong in your "hypothesis" of market share. You sound like one of those conspiracy theorists who believe that the Sandy Hook shootings were played out by actors and that the moon landings were staged. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could be wrong a thousand times and I would still have a better handle on reality than you. Oops! There's Turner Gill...should we bring him back? LOL!!!! Genius...

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Now I know JLOSTDidn'tGoToKU is desperate. :-)

He resorted to the conspiracy theorist smear. HOWLING AGAIN!

Ooooooooh, JLost say conspiracy theorist.

Ooooooooh, bad, bad, bad, bad conspiracy theorist.

Ooooooooh, don't think about JLost's mind numbingly erroneous prediction of KU not getting a number 1 seed.

Ooooooooh, think bad, bad, bad, Black Jesuit, Illuminati, Santa Bennie conspiracy theorist, bad, bad, bad, oooooooohhhhhh! Really bad!


Now, repeat after me JLostDidn'tGoToKU:

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost said KU would not get a 1 seed.

JLost, you've outdone yourself this time.

Want some A-1 sauce with your foot!

Did you ever pick up a basketball in your flipping life?

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago


You are tooooooooo much. I just reread your post once more because I could not stop howling.

"I was right in my analysis of your homerism." --JLostDidNotGoToKU

I am trying to imagine you hunched over your keyboard squinting at an Excel spread sheet muttering "I'm going to show that, jaybate. I am going to ANALYZE his homerism!!!!"

Homerism? (I am laughing so hard I am literally crying now.)

Hmmmm, let's see here.

Homerism is the ideology of being a homer!!!! (I am literally crying from laughter trying to type this.)

Homerism is the a priori assumption of the rightness of one's homer. (Tears streaming.)


You are the most ridiculously fatuous alias EVER!!!

Come on. Tell me more about the ideology of homering. This is hilarious.

Joe Ross 8 years, 7 months ago

Once again you provide the comic fodder. You hop saying, "Look at me, look at me...I need your attention SOOOO much I have to get it by writing these long posts, and I'm willing to do it all day, everyday and even on Christmas! Put your figgy pudding down and look at MEEEEEEE....". Yet you call ME desperate.

Here's desperation for you.

Try to give the appearance of knowing it all by commanding center stage.

When some criticizes me (speaking as Jaybate) make sure I get personal and make them PAY with an avalanche of words right on top of their head.

When someone criticizes me and they are RIGHT, do the above in double measure. Can't have anyone stealing MY thunder! Dont they know that I AM RIGHT?

Belittle. Yeah. That'll get everyone on MY side. I need them on MY SIDE! This whole message board is mine and I dominate it!

Aggravate. Yeah. The ad hominem attacks will get them off of logic, and make it personal. I am better where it's personal, after all. I have a couple of names I like to call people just for this purpose. Ill use them over and over and over.

Lie. Definitely lie. I dont care that what Im saying is accurate or not. I know this kid went to KU, but Im gonna act like Ive been to Strong Hall and dug in the academic records. Kid graduated with honors at BC and went to KU med for graduate school, where he got a 3.8, but this is a message board and the facts dont matter. Only the impression of the facts!

Repeat. Even if unoriginal. Find a line and just keep pushing on that button. Maybe...just maybe it'll carry more weight.

Use caps. Cause I am pathetic enough that I need to be heard constantly. Don't they know Im the Great and Powerful Jaybate who Knows All and will Not Be Contradicted Or Ill Make Them Pay? are pathetic. Simple minded even. Here's a test for you (which I notice you conveniently skipped over last time). Tell us again WHY Turner Gill should have been retained? It's okay. I'm willing to forgive you about being wrong. Save your breath. You couldn't explain it anyway because, well, you were wrong.

Now here's a mature perspective.

Making predictions is what people do. It makes sports interesting. Obviously, they wouldnt be called predictions if we knew the future. It would just be stating the obvious at that point. But as you know the future, that gives you license to guffaw at others I suppose. But this is exactly why I laugh at you. This is why you are to be disregarded. This is the kind of thinking that leads to your having to shore up faulty logic with long-winded, seeming drunken prose. It's a psychological defense mechanism. And here, Im not kidding. Your accusations of "desperation" are really just compensatory. What are you compensating FOR?

duanep5ku 8 years, 7 months ago

jross1972 a great response to Jaybate. A bit childless to keep on attacking a Kansas poster on here Jaywindbate don't you think?

brooksmd 8 years, 7 months ago

Surprised the committee didn't put Fizzoo in place of Nova to pull in a full house if it turned out to be the return of the "border war."

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

That's what I figured would happen, and said so on the live blog yesterday. Jesse disagreed, saying the committee wouldn't award mizzou's mediocrity by allowing them to play in KC. I thought they'd definitely go for the potential matchup.... but instead they went for the OTHER one....

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

A little surprised that it only involved ONE of UNC, Mizzou, Wichita State & not two.

stm62 8 years, 7 months ago

Another #1 seed for the Jayhawks. What a GREAT honor.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I can't get over how awful these committees are at setting up these brackets. Every year I wonder if they do things on purpose to make sure they get upsets. Biggest misses by these guys are SDSU as a 7 seed, should be an 11 at best, Marquette as a 3, UNC should be a 6 not an 8, Pitt should be a 6 not an 8 maybe even a 5, Oregon as a 12 should be a 7, the list goes on and on, it's so far off base you can't even reconcile it into anything that approaches a logical system. For once I don't necessarily feel like KU got absolutely hosed, but obviously that UNC game is a bit of a jip-job. I'll be pulling big for Villanova. Gottlieb, you know jack squat.

Jim Roth 8 years, 7 months ago

He said we would have a hard time with Villanova's trapping and pressing because we don't have a point guard.

Lash 8 years, 7 months ago

That coming from an off court thief and an on court point guard want to be...

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

He said KU better hope UNC takes care of Villanova as they could really give Kansas problems. I'd much rather play a team with one decent scorer that's a freshman than a team like UNC that has some tourney experience from last year and is a top25 team in most people's eyes. As people have mentioned, UNC is playing small with a bunch of shooters and it's working. It also works pretty well against KU the last couple years, misery/ISU.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

Doug said, staring directly into the camera "Kansas has no point guard" he finished his comment with an evil little smirk. As long as the Jayhwks take care of the ball, we can win it all. Mantra, TAKE CARE OF THE BALL AND WE CAN WIN IT ALL. Come on Jayhawk nation, everybody. Like some gregorian chant by droves of figures in crimson & blue robes marching through Lawrence and every city, town, all across the globe. TAKE CARE OF THE BALL AND WE CAN WIN IT ALL! RISING TO A DEAFENING CRESCENDO TILL IT SHATTERS GLASS. RCJH

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

KU's biggest problem has been turnovers by the guards. Pants backwards is correct in his assessment. I much rather play North Carolina than Villanova.

Phognatic 8 years, 7 months ago

Oh God, I was at that game. Hilarious!

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

If you didn't notice, UNC has been forcing some turnovers and getting fast break points out them. BTW, they have athletes that can actually finish a fast break, Nova would be completely outmatched in that department.

I'd take the team that flat out just isn't as good if it was up to me. Unfortunately we have to hope Villanova who should have been a 10 seed, can upset UNC that should have been a 6. Initial line is UNC -4 for a reason.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Totally agree with basically all of this. No reason for UNC to be lower than a 6, and Oregon at a 12?? WTF is that all about?? They got TOTALLY hosed. So did Oklahoma State. Apparently the committee was looking to help out the 12-5 upset streak....

Steve Jacob 8 years, 7 months ago

RPI ratings loved the Mountin West. UNC was a bubble team a month ago, who moved up to an 8, and Villanova has has some bad losses, I mean Columbia blew them out.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

RPI is the biggest piece of crap ratings system out there. But don't take my word for it, Ken Pomeroy makes the detailed case why...

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

That article is two years old and the selection criteria has changed, where the RPI is only one of the tools used to select and seed teams. Case in point, KU is ranked 7 in the RPI but it got the overall 2 seed.
Sometimes you get the wrong impression on how teams are selected and seeded by listening to lazy analysts that either do not do their homework or do not understand the math behind the RPI or the other tools used.
By the way, KenPom has consistently ranked KU below what most other ranking services have; he as some interesting statistics, particularly those related to tempo, but as pure rankings, Sagarin and Massey are better in my opinion (KU is ranked 4 in both) a fact that KenPom acknowledges in his article.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

You completely missed the point, so thanks. It has nothing to do with how the RPI is used and if the criteria has changed. srj mentioned a teams ranking via RPI, and I utilized this article which CLEARLY explains why the RPI is a flawed system to explain that. And has the RPI changed? Because if it hasn't -- if it still uses the same method to rank teams (which it does) -- then this 2-year-old article is still very, very relevant to the discussion.

I said nothing about how the committee used it (nor did I even mention or care where KenPom ranks us or anyone else), just simply explaining that trusting the RPI to gauge a teams power is a terrible way to do it.... which would likely explain why the committee relies on it less, if the criteria has, in fact, changed.

Next time it would help to follow along with the point first before trying to disagree with it.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

And you missed my point as well. In the article Pomeroy is saying that the RPI is mainly what the NCAA uses to select and seed teams. This is no longer true.
BTW, there is a lot less info in his site since he quit his day job (meteorologist) and started doing sports analysis full time.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

No, I realize that the criteria has changed. My point is that it is irrelevant to why I posted it in the first place. I was simply using Pomeroy's argument to state to srj above why the RPI is flawed. It had nothing to do with whether or not the committee actually used it. It was in response to srj's perception of that ranking. Nothing more.

Obviously, I'm glad the committee is using it less. It's a really terrible way to rank teams.... and Ken Pomeroy explains very succinctly why in a post from a couple years ago. ;-)

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

Pomeroy hasn't come up with a decent rating system either unfortunately. I did a mock tourney seeding Saturday night under the assumption OSU, SLU, Miami and Ole Miss would win on Sunday, and I think it came out rather well. Why did I assume Ole Miss would win and make them a 10 seed? Because UF doesn't have a single road/neutral win over a top50 RPI team. But Kenpom's system still has them with the best odds to win it all (1 in 5) because his rankings give them such a huge boost for blowing people out at home. Maybe UF does something out of character and makes a run (they do have injured UCLA as a 6 seed) but I doubt it. If you use the RPI to look for records against quality opponents, road/neutral records, SOS, you can come up with a pretty decent system. I don't know what the heck the committee does, there can't be any logic to it. Of course do something by committee and it'll always come out worse than just letting 1 person do it and then maybe auditing it by committee.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

How about poor Oklahoma State (who might've even had an argument for a 4) gets rewarded with a 5 playing THE MOST UNDERSEEDED team in Oregon (should probably be a 7 as you said) and not only gets stuck with a team 5-seeds too low, but then has to play them in San Jose, CA!!!!!???!!!!

KaulHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

My thoughts on the South: UNC is scary (4-guard lineup presents some matchup issues); not worried about Nova (if they can beat UNC). I think SDSU has a shot to beat Michigan (Nate Wolters can ball), but I think VCU makes the sweet 16. I think we beat them, but playing VCU with a turnover-prone EJ frightens me a bit. Michigan (should they get there) is also scary, but they have suspect defense, and I think we 1) destroy them inside and 2) can lock down their perimeter better than they can lock down ours. Playing teams with studs is always worriesome (see Michigan, Georgetown), but I'm not as concerned about Georgetown as we might think...teams with one stud perimeter player (Otto Porter) are less scary to me than teams with a stretch-4 (like a Duke or Gonzaga) because I trust Releford to shut them down. Florida has great tempo-adjusted stats, but struggles in close games (haven't won a single one). They've got a good mix of perimeter and interior, but no studs; I think we could beat them without major difficulties. UCLA has another perimeter stud (Shabazz Muhammud), but they are very young and very inconsistent; they don't scare me too much (I think Minny beats them in the first round, FWIW). Oklahoma, Minnesota, and SDSU are all pretty inconsistent; not too worried about them. I've got KU over Georgetown, with Releford shutting Porter down and no Hoya answer on the interior.

brooksmd 8 years, 7 months ago

Just read where St Louis watched the selection show in a Best Buy in NJ because traffic kept them from getting to the airport in time to watch it there. The team dressed in warmup gear and A-10 champ stuff. Must've been a sight.

machinegun 8 years, 7 months ago

WTG Coach Self and all of the guys! What a great accomplishment to be a conference champion, tournament champion, and now a #1 seed.

seanswind 8 years, 7 months ago


First Round: Not worried about W KY. 15 losses.

Second Round: UNC is not an 8 seed. I was thinking, based on their ACC Tourn play, they'd be a 6 seed. They don't have anyone to match Withey, but I have a feeling we'll need Perry to step up in this one.

Sweet 16 I'd rather have Michigan. You do not want VCU unless you have solid PG play. Michigan has no inside defense-- but they also have solid guard play, so I don't see VCU getting past 'em. Seems like another tough game for the "2nd overall #1 seed"

Elite 8 Not worried about Fl, Gtown, anyone likely to come out of bottom half of the bracket. FL - SEC sucks. Gtown - Big East is always overrated.

Final Four Likely we play Miami or Indiana - I'd rather have Miami.

Championship I'd really like Louisville or Duke to not be there waiting for us.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Indiana, Duke or Louisville are 3 I would probably FAVOR against us. That's not to say that were infallible and couldn't just lose to the 8/9-seed.

Travis Shinkle 8 years, 7 months ago

Kansas City is the winner: KU, K-State, Wichita State, Colorado, Illinois, and no Missouri!

Travis Shinkle 8 years, 7 months ago

Oops my fault..I was looking at ESPN who apparently has it wrong

mejayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

So when EJ nutmegged that ksu player last night, he pretty much punked him. I think that move and the resulting floater were EJ's way of saying farewell to the cats

Ethan Berger 8 years, 7 months ago

and Naddirs bounce pass through that guys legs, on the break. I almost died

Sam Constance 8 years, 7 months ago

Wasn't between the legs, but awesome nonetheless.

GortHawker 8 years, 7 months ago

Gort is not happy with our region, he's thinking about vaporizing a couple planets to let off some steam.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

Love your handle/avatar. One of my favorite movies of all time. My coffee pot is named Gort. Coach Weber kind of reminds me of Patricia Neals boy friend. Thanks

GortHawker 8 years, 7 months ago

Thanks, not many people would get the connection, you have to like to watch old science fiction movies, that one was a classic,kinda like this current Jayhawk BB team is distined to become, "Go Hawks"

PVJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Gort, klaatu barada nikto, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

What Klaatu was saying, " if the Jayhawks Take care of the ball they can win it all". Gort was quiet but deadly, like "SILENT SILK" aka Perry Ellis.

kucapcity91 8 years, 7 months ago

We will defiantly have to play our best ball..!. Can't wait to get a shot at unc! that's if they can get pass nova!!

johninkc1 8 years, 7 months ago

West Region looks the easiest. Gonzaga is from what conference? OSU will be thankful for not getting a #1 seed. KSU gets a great bracket as well. KU always gets a tough road. Let's get ready. ROCK CHALK!

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I'd say the past 2 tourneys were easier despite the loss to an underrated VCU in 2011. I do agree that the Zags and OSU will have it easy.

GreatJake 8 years, 7 months ago

Well the small audience teams of the Big 12 did well - KU, KSU, ISU, OK and OSU -

What happened to Texas?????????

Congrats to the small audience teams....small audience - big winners

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

"What happened to Texas?????????"

Uh.... they finished with a sub-500 record and a BPI ranked 97th...

Unless you meant why were they so bad this year. Then the answer starts with an R and ends in a ick Barnes.

okiedave 8 years, 7 months ago

may have something to do with nothing but Freshman and Sophmores on their sqaud this year.

dynamitehawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I am rhetorically chilling out, watching the clouds pass, reflecting on Texas, its big-haired and beautiful women. Although, I did visit the worst public bathroom in my life in Texas, and I've hit heads in Dominica... It was a bricked outhouse and... Not sure how to explain the smell... Take the decomposed body of Bin Laden, soaked in Jabba the Hut entrails left to simmer in meth from Independence, Missouri, and condense every fart produced by an anteater that only consumes cigarette butts into a 16 square foot enclosure. Rhetorically chilling and not asking 'bout Texas.

Justin Millsap 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm sure you meant rhetorical. No big deal. We get it.

GreatJake 8 years, 7 months ago

it was a retorical question; Texas the state - not just one school

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

They looked a lot better once Kabongo got back up to speed. Could be dangerous next year if his stock is low enough that he decides to come back and try to build it up to lottery-level. I think he does.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

"Take care of the ball and we can win it all".

Boouk 8 years, 7 months ago

Why does the committee hate us so much?

Rick Arnoldy 8 years, 7 months ago

Best thing about being the #2 overall? We never have to wear the gawd-awful blue version of the zubas uniforms.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Pretty sure those unis were only for the conference tourney.

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago


Even with the high degree of talent level turn over Kansas has, yet we end up with high-ranked recruiting classes, Top Ten Rankings, Conference Championships, many times Tourney Champs, awarded #1 or #2 NCAA Regional Seeds, Sweet Sixteens, Elite Eights year after year...I guess the haters are right.

Bill Self and his coaches can't recruit, train or coach their way out of a paper bag. We poor Jayhawks are just most unfortunate.......NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats again, boys.....I need to stop being surprised at what we can do!! :)

brooksmd 8 years, 7 months ago

And come next year the naysayers will be at it all over again. How can anybody doubt the ability of HCBS?

Steve Jacob 8 years, 7 months ago

Should be a fun tournament, curious how the Big 10 teams do, they all beat up each other. I predict a 1 seed goes down in the first weekend, and two more before the final four. I like KU in the South, even with a tough match-up this weekend.

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

I think Wichita State will knock off Gonzaga.

Dyrk Dugan 8 years, 7 months ago

our bracket is the toughest....if not, it's tied for the Midwest. the SEC champ, the Big East champ, and one of the top teams from the Big 10.... a team ranked #1 during the year, are the other three top seeds.

plus, throw in UNC as an 8, and VCU as a 5....very, very tough.

i don't fear playing UNC and their style....Bill Self seems to have Roy's number. but we just beat them last year, and there are kids who have a lot of pride under know he'll have them sky high. he'll complain and moan, about how all the fans will be for KU in Kansas will be a real sob fest, poor 'ol Roy.

the good news? we will have no problem being motivated ourselves to play any of these schools.....Michigan/VCU or UNC/Villanova.....all name schools, and teams that we have just played recently in the tourney.

K-State has to like their seed...a possible revenge game vs. Gonzaga? they have to like that....even though they'll be out in their neck of the woods, if they do play them.

Oregon/Okla St....very tough draw for the Cowboys. Dana can coach.

Go Jayhawks!

Debbie Mangen 8 years, 7 months ago

Could someone explain how the Round #1, or play-in games are chosen? Why would they be picked last, and then enter the bracket higher than other teams, and then NOT play the #1 seeds in each region? 4 games, 2 winners enter at 16, one enters as a #13 seed and the other #11. I have never how this is decided. Help anyone?

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

They wanted to add three more teams and to make it so more people would watch (not too many watched those two 16 seeds play each other on Tuesday of tournament week), they decided to let several higher seeded, but still just bubble teams play each other too. Those games have created some interesting results, including sadly VCU, which if I believe I remember correctly, played the play in game, and then advanced to the FF defeating us in the process.

WalktheTalkJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

The play-in teams are the lowest seeded teams that are not automatic qualifiers.

John Randall 8 years, 7 months ago

Well, half of them are ... now four of the 'autos' have a play-in instead of just two, and more 'bubble' teams are in. Actually, the bubble grew by three.

dazedandconfused 8 years, 7 months ago

Just read Monk's idea on the "Just Take Care of the Ball, and we'll Win it All! Absolutely Brilliant - This needs to go Viral!

Lance Hobson 8 years, 7 months ago

UNC is hot but Self owns them. Need the good defense to show up for that one.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

South is easily the toughest followed by: Midwest, East, and West.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

Nova has already beaten Louisville, Syracuse and Georgetown...UNC may be no match.

Since79 8 years, 7 months ago

<----- My son already has his game face on. Can't wait til Friday RCJH!

Ethan Berger 8 years, 7 months ago

Two other regions might be tougher overall but no 1 seed has to go through what we do. 1st round, we should win big. This is my bracket I just did on ESPN for KU.

2nd round UNC will play us. We are 2-0 against Roy. I never like the third game. Plus they are a great match up for us. They can shoot and have great athletes. Perry might get some good PT in this game. Withey could dominate. If we don't play through Withey, we are going home.

3rd round. I have Michigan. That is another very tough draw. Trey Burke and Tim Hardway are great offensive players. Robinson and McGary are studs. They have a no name 4 like us. They could easily win. But I think Ben powers us to victory.

Elite 8. Georgetown. I actually think the match up favors us. They are a scrappy team with a star. They are a good defensive team with a solid offense. Which is what people say about us. You slow down Otto Porter, you win.

Final four. Indiana. I think this is a game where we win with the play of our point guards. Zeller with struggle against Jeff. Wafford will be a tough guard on offense which will mean KY will be glued to him. Olapido will give us fits. luckily Jeff will be there. But Hulls their pg is not a distributor or great defender. He shoots very will but EJ and Naddir should have their way with him on offense. Tracking him on D might be up to Rel.

Champ game: Michigan State. We all watched the Michigan State team. Bill likes revenge. We are much better then that game in November. Gary Harris shouldn't light us up that bad again. With the improvement of Ben, Naddir and Perry, we should be to much for them to handle. They have good skilled offense post players. But they are heavy, so making them run will benefit us. Look for Perry to shine.

Final note: I was extremely biased in this bracket. Every single game will be within 10 points and my gut tells me UNC will beat us. But I have brain that doesn't allow me to pick anyone else but Kansas to win every Title.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 7 months ago

Ok, it's a deal. I think we'll all sign up for that.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

Still want a shot at them after we were robbed in '86

jaycon11 8 years, 7 months ago

It's a tough bracket, but I don't want a cakewalk. And a potential rematch with VCU won't consist of 1 day to prepare. There are good teams in the bracket like Michigan which, if they advance, will give our fan base a good indicator of how strong our team is this year.

Can the games begin tomorrow?

Joel Thomas 8 years, 7 months ago

Intriguing bracket. I think the top half is manageable. VCU - last time the team was too cocky; our primary players/leaders this year are tougher IMO. Michigan - plays small and likes to shoot, but they played better earlier in the season vs late. Bottom is tough, if it chalk prevails. Computers love Florida; Georgetown has been playing well and they slow it down, shrinking margin of error.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

Florida has been wetting the bed on a regular basis lately...not too concerned about them. Very tough bracket overall though.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Once again the state of Kansas send all its Division 1 teams to the Big Dance. No other state with 3 or more Division 1 schools has done this.

Bville Hawk 8 years, 7 months ago

You need to google D1 basketball programs in North Carolina. I can think of 7 and I think there are at least a couple more and they all are usually pretty good basketball programs.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

There are a ton, UNCW, UNC A&T, UNCA, Davidson, High Point, Wake Forest, UNC, Duke, NC St, I don't pretend to know how many. Point was they've never gotten all of them in. Indiana also has a ton of D1 bball schools, Evansville, ISU, Valpo, Butler, IUPUI, IU, PU, ND, Ball St., lots of good bball schools, but once again, they've never all gotten into the tourney.

Jim Pendleton 8 years, 7 months ago

Rock Chalk Mom - the teams playing in the first four are split up as the last four seeded automatic bids, and the last four seeded at-larges. So those last four automatic seeds play each other with the winners advancing to play a one seed in the second round.

Those other two play in games involve the lowest seeded at-large teams, although there can be some exceptions to this. This year those four teams included two 13 seeds and two 11 seeds. The 13's play each other (winner advances to play a 4 seed) and the 11's play each other (winner advances to play a 6 seed).

There is an exception that comes into play with the at-larges. These games have to involve teams of the same seed, in this case 13's and 11's. California is a 12 seed and an at-large. However, since there was no other 12 seed at-large team, the first round game has to be with the 11 seeds, since that is where the multiple at-large seeds lie. There is also a factor in that some teams have to be moved a line up or down on the seed line to avoid possible early round games with teams in their own conference. The selection committee chair announced that California was one of those teams, so that is another reason not to read into them not playing the first early round game.

It can be a little complicated, but they pair the final at large teams and the final automatic teams so you have half of both in the first early round.

One more tidbit, and I had to check the bracket to confirm. There are no teams from the state of Texas in the tourney. Think of the number of teams and leagues that respresents. Ironic, considering Austin is a first weekend site, and Arlington is a regional site. Guessing not many hoops fans from Texas attending the next two weeks.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

UNC will have problems in closes game. Against Miami they were down by 2 or 3 points with 3 minutes to play and they were panicking, rushing plays and taking bad shots. Miami did not and won going away.
KU has won all 3 OT games it has played because it played it smart and it had senior leadership. UNC on the other hand has only one senior, Strickland, that plays substantial minutes.

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

NCAA has been trying to sell a Georgetown/KU match for years now.

2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

*Georgetown was not selected in 2009

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

Yes, it will be interesting to see if both teams can actually make it to the Elite Eight this time. If not, at least we know the matchup will finally happen the next two years in our new home-and-home arrangement.

GortHawker 8 years, 7 months ago

Didn't we play and beat them at the start of this year?

lurkerhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

We played them Nov. 21, 2011 at Maui and beat them 67-63 between losses to Kentucky and Duke, which is probably why it has been repressed in my recent memory.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Anyone else notice a similarity between the KU team's black tops and small Jayhawk emblem, and the black sweater and small Jayhawk emblem Roy wore back in 2008?

Kind of interesting, ironic and coincidental echo given that UNC is in our bracket. :-)

WalktheTalkJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

If I'm not mistaken, ole Roy is wearing a sticker.

Lance Hobson 8 years, 7 months ago

It bothers me SO that his sticker is crooked. I'm not even OCD but this has irked me for years.

Benjamin Clay Jones 8 years, 7 months ago

Watch them give us the very last damn time slot on a Friday again. Why can't we ever play early on a Thursday?

Bville Hawk 8 years, 7 months ago

TV ratings. They want us in prime time.

AQM37 8 years, 7 months ago

We played the first game of the tournament in 2008, as well as the last. :)

KansasComet 8 years, 7 months ago

We must beat Western Kentucky. I am not really worried about anything else. All of the what may happen with this team or that team means nothing to me. It's win or go home, survive and advance. Go KU!!

brooksmd 8 years, 7 months ago

Hey Wissox wanna carpool to KC? I have family in Topeka. Or we can carpool to Dallas. J/K Thought your Badgers were gonna do it again today.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

Let's go! Yeah, the Badgers made a nice run though! I'd love to go to KC because that's where the Badgers are too. Why couldn't this have happened in New Orleans!

Jack Wilson 8 years, 7 months ago

I for one hope we get VCU again. It would provide some minor closure, or in the event of catastrophe, some horrific comedy.

Steve Brown 8 years, 7 months ago

As #1 seed we should not have to play late game Friday night, turn around for early game on Sunday.

Glad we are in KC. Let us give Roy one more blast of the chant, he knows it so very well.

phins13td 8 years, 7 months ago

When will the game time be announced?

Lance Hobson 8 years, 7 months ago

You know, the comments about KU's recruiting are valid. UK gets the absolutely best in the nation and now they're in the NIT. We played them last year in the title game with a cast of all non-McDonalds players and are again a #1 seed with a similar lineup. Self is a genius at finding the right kind of talent and also working with whatever talent he ends up getting in any given year.

GortHawker 8 years, 7 months ago

That's why he makes the big bucks, he's worth it!

FearlessJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

The committee obviously is hoping for an early KU exit. There is no guarantee KU will play Carolina. Super Nova could be just as difficult. If KU can make it past the second round I believe KU can go all the way. VCU or Michigan will not sneak-up on us this time.

Justin Millsap 8 years, 7 months ago

Interesting perspective. I did some quick math and there is at least an 83% chance we will not go all the way if we fail to make it past the second round.

Chad Smith 8 years, 7 months ago

As a gopher and Ku fan, I'm intrigued by the remote possibility that the gophers and ku could meet in an elite 8 game. I don't know what I would do, that would be nuts. I don't think Gophers will get there, but it'd be really fun to watch!

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

The Gophers are tough, rodents with a country flare. I have always had a soft spot for them because their related to the north east woodchuck. I also like the originality of the name. You know how many tigers there are in college sports? When you hear Gophers there's no question about who your talking about. Even more original are the JAYHAWKS. If it comes to the elite eight and your faced with the choice, Please gopher the Hawks.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

I really like the Adidas black (fleece???) tops with the blue piping but I cannot seem to find them anywhere for sale. Does anyone know if they are available or if they are a limited edition just for the BBall team?

Freedman Moor 8 years, 7 months ago

"I was driving in from Cleveland, and I had some thouhts. Not jokes, just thoughts."

Not only are there a ton of land mines in this bracket, there seems to be a back-story with quite a few of them. NC (Roy); Villanova (Jay Wright and "Watch this"); VCU (rematch); Michigan and Florida (both projected as #1 seeds five weeks ago); SDSU (mid-major monster)...

The possible UNC matchup is a taylor-made upset. UNC is playing small ball now. If KU were to face them, they may be the closest thing to Iowa State the fellas would face. If the matchup were to materialize, it'd be good to pick up two in the all-time wins column, but it'd be better if Villanova walks them back to their hotel.

Tubby smith got demolished by KU twice while at UK. I'm sure he'd love to have a shot at redemption.

If the SEC's #2 seed didn't make the tournament, how in the hell did anyone ther than Ole Miss (tourney champ) and Florida make the field?

The weakest #1 got the weakest bracket. IMHO. I think K-State can make a long run and (as a Kansas) I hope they do

My prediction: high drama and sketchy ratings. If upsets are bad for ratings (as I've read), the ad execs better have drawn up some contingencies

How the hell do you book flights to "North Texas"?

I'll bet Roy's boys are practicing against the Triangle-and-two as week speak.

I'll bet Jay Wright is studying every lob play KU has run this year.

Lastly, I'm shocked the selection committee didn't put the bushwackers in our bracket. Gotta admit, I lost that bet.

Jim Pendleton 8 years, 7 months ago

First, let's not get overly concerned about what time the game is Friday. It's 9:40 Sun nite, I haven't seen times announced yet, but I can pretty much assure you we will be playing Friday night, and probably the 2nd game. The fact that UNC is opposite us practically assures these games will be in prime time. The K-State side of the games doesn't scream prime time coverage to me.

Second point, no guarantee that start time for Sunday is early or even during the day. With more networks involved in the tourney, we could play later that day. In fact the last two years, we have played at 7:30 or 8 Sunday night. I remember getting home from Tulsa two years ago after 3am.

Let's play whoever they put in front of us, and at whatever time. Rock Chalk!!

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

It's a huge edge to play in the 1st game and allow the staff to watch their next opponent play after securing a win. If Self had that advantage in 2010 KU doesn't lose to N. Iowa. Might have worked out the same in 2011 with VCU. I really hope KU gets the earlier game this time around.

Casey Gee 8 years, 7 months ago

1 seeds frequently play early games because they usually blow out their first round opponent. I'm betting UNC-Villanova will be the primetime game.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I guess it's out and we're the late game, #1 seed KU gets hosed again.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

It's official. Kentucky is a #1 seed in the NIT! Baylor is a #2 seed. I guess the squid gets to pick up a few cheap wins to pad his record.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I heard they are on the road at Robert Morris to start it out though, so who knows.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

KU is currently 12 games behind UK in all time wins. With a little luck and a good run in the tournament it can be in single digits behind by the end of the season and catch up in the next year or two. I bet the squid is dreading this scenario now that his one and done plan is falling apart.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

Will the distractions associated with playing this close to home be detrimental to the Hawks? Would it be better to not be playing somewhere so close to home?

Looking at the guys picks on espn and it looks like nobody is picking Kansas. More motivation.

If Tharp and EJ perform and avoid the TO's 'in the moments' then this team has the best chance at cutting the nets down in my opinion.

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

They also get to sleep in their own beds at night which is never a bad thing.

wavingthewheatinOH 8 years, 7 months ago

What’s one of the differences between the Baylor game and the K-State game? ENTHUSIASM. If we go retro for minute, we can look at what Dale Carnegie had to say about this little recognized secret to success: He said, “I don’t know of anything in the world that will do more for you than enthusiasm.” We’ve got the ability and the skills, so let’s get an infusion of ENTHUSIASM, Hawks, and kick some a_ _!

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

I like KU's bracket, it may not have the weakest seeds in it, but it is full of power 6 teams which KU hasn't historically had as many issues with in regards to fluke losses. UNC is an interesting match up should it happen, but KU is flat out better than UNC. I'm not overly convinced VCU makes it past Akron to be perfectly honest. Florida has been inconsistent of late so I don't think they make it to the Elite 8. Georgetown can slow the game to a grind and play it in the 50's which is always dangerous because you can never get a safe lead on them. I do think KU should reach the Final Four this year and I think this team is also more than capable of winning the national title this year.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I think the only reason you could say these guys are more capable is the lack of a team as talented as UK last year in the field. Not having a beast like TRob and someone as fearless as TT is definitely a huge couple losses. Having Perry Ellis playing better, a phenom like BMac and a core of seniors is key.

UF still doesn't have a road/neutral win over an RPI top50 team and actually only have 1 really over a team ranked higher than NW St (Bama in Nashville). NW St isn't far from Austin. I told people yesterday I was curious as to whether UF could finally get a decent neutral/road win over Ole Miss. They couldn't, so who knows if they're capable of winning a game, doubtful they can win 2 and would need a lot of help to get 3.

arch007bak 8 years, 7 months ago

Not a lot of love for KU's chances to even make the Final least from ESPN's talking heads.

arch007bak 8 years, 7 months ago

But I did love that most of em seemed to pick Colorado State over Mizzery

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Only one who seems to support us there is Seth Greenberg. He's loved Withey, McLemore & Young all year long.

Jim Roth 8 years, 7 months ago

Should I know what APR stands for? I had to look it up. Isn't there a rule about defining acronyms and initialisms in published articles?

BearfishRob 8 years, 7 months ago

I think the wins over Iowa State and K-State are exactly what this team needed. A lot of the teams on our path to the final four play small ball and usually we don't have much experience against that style going into the tourney. So if the guy with no lips and coaches K-State is good for one thing, its getting us ready for teams that play small ball.

KansasComet 8 years, 7 months ago

I think Elijah Johnson and Naadir Tharpe will use the "no point guard" talk as motivation this tournament. The embarrassing between Will Spradling's legs move by EJ, with the tear drop finish, and the thread the needle pass by Tharpe between 3 KSU defenders serves notice. You are right Jay Bilas and the rest of the talking heads, KU does not have a point guard, they have two!

justinryman 8 years, 7 months ago

Well what is there to say that hasn't been said yet?

So I will keep is simple and poignant.

Go out and play KU basketball. Everything else will take care of itself.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk

4jhawks4ku 8 years, 7 months ago

Who's in charge of supplying Roy's Jayhawk stickers?

Gil Ek 8 years, 7 months ago

Read last night somewhere (can't find it now) that this is like KU's 4th #1 seed in seven years or something. Pretty impressive. Why is it everytime I see a photo of Weber screaming at the ref"s or his players, it looks like someone getting their first colonoscopy without sedation?

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

Kind of funny, but honestly last night, I am betting that 68 teams were saying they had the toughest route to the championship and that the NCAA Selection Committee screwed them!!

THAT is the true definition of parity!! After all, the fairest contract in the world is when no one is entirely happy. :)

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I would argue that San Diego State & North Carolina should be flipped. SDSU a 7 & UNC an 8?!?!?! Um, didn't SDSU only make it to the Semis in the MWC Tourney & UNC the Finals in the ACC too - in terms of recent play even?

Benjamin Piehler 8 years, 7 months ago

Interesting. SDSU only finished midtable in the MWC, and has less wins than UNC.

I'm not as worried about UNC as I am other teams in the bracket though.

Benjamin Piehler 8 years, 7 months ago

KState beat Florida, I think we can too.

Michigan, I'm worried about.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Michigan w/ back-to-back losses to a good defensive big team in Wisconsin. We have a comparable defense and better offense than Wisconsin. I think we'd beat Michigan. VCU would scare mre more but I don't think they'll be there.

justinryman 8 years, 7 months ago

To advance in the tournament you have to make Freethrows.

Secondly control your turnovers.

Third rebound.

You do these three things along with defense and putting the ball through the net you will win and play again.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

Ladies & Gentlemen please place your tray's in the upright position, fasten your seat belts and enjoy the flight. Jayhawks, how did you get here? You worked your a%$*# off through adversity, blood and sweat. One moment at a time, and please remember, "take care of the ball and you can win it all". RCJH KAAAAAUOOOOOO! Brought to you by "AIR BALL CARE". There is a victory in every flight.

Justin Lindsley 8 years, 7 months ago

Everyone has to come out in attack mode! I'm talking to you BMac, Ghost, and Withey especially. No excuses! Give it everything you have, leave nothing on the court. If we play aggressive, then we can make a deep run for sure. If we come out timid and not "into" it at the start we/I will have more free time the next couple of weeks. Rock Chalk! make us proud!

JayhawkRock78 8 years, 7 months ago

So proud of the way you came out of the three game loss. One setback with Baylor and that was it. FANTASTIC Tourney in KC. Way to dominate and get that one seed.

You have all the talent and experience you need to get it done. RCJH.

Jeff Kilgore 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree. When I saw where we were playing, that meant much more to me than who we were playing. We have a chance to play two games in KC and then two games in Dallas, which will feel like a home game compared to the other top seeds. That makes a world of difference because our team has really fed off of the crowd in past years.

Win or lose, I have no worries about the Jayhawks and who they play. If you were a fan of any team with KU in your bracket, that would cause you some concern.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

3 stages of the where they started off 19-1, then 0-3, and now again 10-1.

Looking more and more and more like a mid-season hiccup. Only ones that I wouldn't be confident in picking them over would be Indiana, Duke or Louisville.

Steve Brown 8 years, 7 months ago

don't like playing the friday LATE game, #1 seed should get the extra 2-3 hours of rest before Sunday showdown.

Also, the play in games are not and never will be round 1, they are round A or play in not round one.

Take the midnight train to Georgia, Atlanta final four.

If we get Tar heels, Kemper should be a rock chalk chant sunday afternoon, what sweet music.

monkeehawkSL8 8 years, 7 months ago

I am asking for help from JAYHAWK NATION. Please post, say, write, think so it becomes as natural as taking a breath, second nature.

Jayhawks, "take care of the ball and you can win it all". No matter where you are or what your doing make it part of everything in your life. Against the Hawks had 24 to's and lost by 3. This team is capable of being one of the greatest example's of traditional college student athletic's in history. They have struggled with turnover's all year. If you think this is a pathetic, I'm asking for some grace here. If your on board with it please get it going. Thanks monk RCJH

Justin Millsap 8 years, 7 months ago

Is it not amazing that the top two overall seeds in the NCAA tournament BOTH had a three game losing streak during the regular season?

I doubt that has ever happened before, but I may never know the answer as I am far too lazy to do the research.

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