Thursday, March 14, 2013


Opinion: Iowa State gets final shot at payback

A row of young Kansas fans stretch themselves to slap hands with the Jayhawks as they leave the court following their 91-63 win over Texas Tech on Thursday, March 14, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Missouri.

A row of young Kansas fans stretch themselves to slap hands with the Jayhawks as they leave the court following their 91-63 win over Texas Tech on Thursday, March 14, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Missouri.


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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

KU coach Bill Self talks after win over Texas Tech

Kansas coach Bill Self talks after his team's 91-63 win over Texas Tech on March 14, 2013.

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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

Jeff Withey, Ben McLemore

Kansas players Jeff Withey and Ben McLemore talk to reporters following the Jayhawks' 91-63 victory over Texas Tech on March 14, 2013.

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— For the Power and Light District merchants outside the Sprint Center, the Big 12 basketball tournament is about so much more than team loyalty. It’s about generating enough revenue to pay the bills through the inevitable slow stretches. Hence, all the long faces, the hanging heads, the grousing early Thursday afternoon as Oklahoma systematically padded its lead against Iowa State inside that big building across the street.

An estimated six times as many Iowa State fans flocked to K.C. for the event that bridges the regular season and the tourney of all tourneys. We’ll never know for sure, but it’s conceivable that for a merchant or two the difference between succeeding and going out of business could have been riding on the Cyclones staging a comeback.

Luckily for the nearby businesses and for basketball fans who enjoy watching an underdog whose style gives the heavyweight champion trouble, Iowa State point guard Korie Lucious stopped shooting and Will Clyburn and Melvin (it’s not his fault he has the same first name as Weatherwax; he’s one heck of a tough player) Ejim went to work.

Ejim scored 15 of his 23 points and Clyburn had 15 of his 17 in the second half, bringing the Cyclones back from a 13-point deficit with less than 10 minutes remaining to score a 73-66 victory.

Kansas had no trouble taking care of the other half of the rematch equation by blowing out Texas Tech, 91-63.

Iowa State-Kansas III, a basketball sprint in the Sprint.

Some schools play against each other for 10 years without generating as many memorable moments as KU and ISU did in two games during the regular season.

Elijah Johnson’s 39 points. Ben McLemore’s banked three-pointer on his way to 33 points on just 12 field-goal attempts in Allen Fieldhouse. McLemore scoring just seven points in Ames. Johnson’s apparent charge not called. Kevin Young raising his hand and baiting the referee into calling the foul on him instead of on Jeff Withey, who already had four fouls. Johnson’s unappreciated dunk at the overtime buzzer, triggering fans to hurl plastic mini-megaphones on the floor. An angry Iowa State booster charging Kansas coach Bill Self and verbally blasting his players while policemen stepped in and saved the guy from possibly doing something that could have resulted in him having handcuffs slapped on his wrists.

Forty minutes of regulation clock couldn’t decide either game with the score tied 79-79 in the first, 90-90 in the second. Kansas won both overtimes by a combined 36-16.

Clyburn, winner by landslide of the Big 12 Newcomer of the Year Award for which freshmen are not eligible, used his skill to help Iowa State earn a third shot at Kansas and then used his words to add spice to Friday night’s already compelling rematch.

“They beat us twice during the year, probably games we shouldn’t have lost, but, hey, I’m ready for payback,” Clyburn said after scoring 15 of his 17 points in the second half of the Cyclones’ 73-66 comeback victory against Oklahoma.

When that quote was run past a few Kansas players their answers could be summed up in one word: Yawn.

“I don’t think there’s a lot of emotion going into it,” Travis Releford said while tearing the tape off his ankle. “They’re a good team. We know what to expect from them because we played them twice. I think it’s going to be an overall fun game.”

Even if the title-game matchup should happen to pit both teams from the state Kansas against each other, such a matchup might not match Friday’s 6:30 p.m. semifinal tipoff.

“They came down close both games and they both happened to go our way,” Releford said. “For us to be able to match up in the Big 12 tournament to see who is the better team, I think that’s good for both teams.”

Both teams have the firepower to stage big comebacks.

“We have a team full of shooters,” Clyburn said, explaining Thursday’s comeback. “And one thing about shooters, you have to have confidence. Forget about making or missing. If you miss a shot, gotta shoot the next one. That’s what we have on this team, shooters with confidence.”

Shooters with a third shot at Kansas.


Darin Bradley 8 years, 7 months ago

Ours boys will be looking for a little payback of our own.... thrown objects, racial slurs, charging fans. We haven't forgotten. Bring it Cyclones. We've been waiting for you.

Steve Zimmerman 8 years, 7 months ago

If KU came out and played like vs Tech, there's no way ISU would win this time. Not even a tad teeneey chance.

Al Martin 8 years, 7 months ago

If we come out and play like we played against Tech, Iowa State would have a twenty point lead at halftime. We might well put them away in the second half, but that first half against Tech was really not that great.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

Twenty-point lead? I think you're overestimating the Cyclones just a bit there. We weren't THAT bad in the first half.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Ummm, about half of it was good.....the first 6 1/2 mins. & the last 3 mins. KU outscored TTech by a combined 22-2. I'd say that portion of it was good. :)

NebraskaJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

Agree with you. ISU is a much better team than TT. And if ISU is on, they are the team to beat in the tourney. If they are having an off day...meh.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

I was at the game yesterday and Iowa State did no play well. OU still had 12 point lead with 7 minutes left and then went ice cold. It was still a 2 point game with under a minute left. ISU shot 7-26 from 3; nothing like the crazy game they had at Hilton.
If ISU and KU play the same way the did yesterday, KU wins by at least 20.

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

Withey needs to wake up. His last two games have not been good.

Danny Hernandez 8 years, 7 months ago

but what happens if ISU's 3's aren't falling? They really have no inside game of to speak of

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Well, in the LITTLE bits of time that they ACTUALLY WEREN'T attempting 3's in Ames, they were seemingly on a NON-STOP parade to the FT line, but ISU fans ignore facts and they were jilted because of one late call despite the crazy disparity throughout the game prior to that.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

Which doesn't hurt your 3pt shooters at all, getting some unwarranted FT's

Michael Luby 8 years, 7 months ago

Our guards Trav, EJ and Naa need to light that fire... like now Fellas!!! Or Jhawkaustin is right. We wont win. We cant rely on Withey having a career night tonight. We Can and will have Ben doing just that. Repeat performance tonight for absolute sure. Watch out, movie reference coming! Give Sherron a big afro wig and put him in the game!

Richard Heckler 8 years, 7 months ago

Only 54 tickets available as of 3/15/13 in the AM.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

Yeah, attendance was actually pretty low in yesterday's games but I expected to ramp WAY UP tonight. I also think so long as ONE of EITHER KU OR KSU is in the Championship tomorrow night, should get a lot of fans there then too.

Only ISU / OSU would be the sparse crowd outcome. In reality, a VERY realistic possibility of those two being the teams too though.

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

I was at the arena for the first session. The ISU-OU games was about 80% full with tons of ISU fans. The KU-TTU game had a few empty seats but was otherwise pretty much full. I cannot speak for the second session.

John Randall 8 years, 7 months ago

"... had a few empty seats but was otherwise pretty much full."

I guess there were only a few seats half-full?

Richard Heckler 8 years, 7 months ago

KU Jayhawks best not yawn too often as ISU can beat them. If they yawn more than once....after that they are asleep at the wheel.

ISA shooters cannot show up over confident because the Jayhawks will win the game without much effort.

Bottom line both teams have the capability to win. Both teams best not forget. Fans will be pleased to receive a great night of basketball from both sides. Have fun.

Hawkamania 8 years, 7 months ago

Iowa State...Iowa State.

You guys got 51 points from making 3s and 29 points from the charity stripe that game in your house. Meaning, 80 out of your 96 total points came from the 3 and free throw line. 80! A school record 17 made 3s and 22 consecutive free throw makes still couldn't get you the win could it? How was it that a team that shot mainly jumpers and got DOMINATED in the paint in that game end up shooting more FTs then the other team by the way?

Take away your 3s and you have NOTHING Iowa State. NOTHING!

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

Self better get better guarding or try a zone where the perimeter is well guarded and let Withey take care around the basket.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

I like the idea of Self trying to guard someone, but I'm not sure at his age that he has the speed to keep up.

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

Zone defenses are a bad idea against a team that loves to shoot 3 pointers because zone defenses encourage more 3 point shooting.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

depends on the zone, a 3-2 zone defends the 3 pt line rather well and can defend beyond it depending on how you tell your players to play zone

Steve Gantz 8 years, 7 months ago

How many times are we going to hear today/tonight through various media outlets about the call at the end of the game?

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

Is it going to be Brett and Fran calling the game again? Look out.

Kent Richardson 8 years, 7 months ago

El Kabong Jeff and Baba McLooey beat down the F1 Cyclones.

Robert Brown 8 years, 7 months ago

This game makes me nervous. Say what you will about the last game, but this is not a good match up for KU. ISU easily could have won both games. We haven't demonstrated the ability to guard the three and ISU is particularly skilled at shooting the three. They are also skilled at drawing fouls by driving to the basket. I am sure their team will be amped up for this game. It is not a given that KU rolls over ISU in this game.

AirCapJay 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree. I think on the last two games (also OSU, TCU, OU, Baylor) our team has not had the energy going into the game that they should. If they can picture Missouri or K-State as their opponent, then we will win. If they think they can just show up and get a win, we go home to start early practices for a 3 or 4 seed in the West.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

There's no way that KU will be a 3 or 4 seed. They seem pretty set as a 2 seed.

texashawk10 8 years, 7 months ago

KU will be either the 1 or 2 seed in the south depending on what they do and what happens in the Big East tournament with Louisville and Georgetown.

gchawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm with you, am very nervous as well, and for the reasons you mention. I truly feel we'll defeat ISU, but am wondering if Weatherwax is permitted to attend the game. Anyone know if there were any legal implications against those 2 kids who tweeted those racial slurs and death threats?

Choctaw 8 years, 7 months ago

ISU lives by the three and offensive rebounds. Block out and deny them those offensive rebounds without fouling and it puts all the pressure on their outside shooters. Then you can better control the flow of the game. Our offense is more flexible in that we have both inside and outside games but who shows up is the question. Nobody can take the night off.
No predictions but watch the offensive rebounds as an indicator of how it's going.
Lets put an end to this babble about bad officiating and win this thing! Go Big Blue

justinryman 8 years, 7 months ago

I posted this last night on a different thread, but thought I'd share it here too.

Lets start a pool on when the 1st foul against KU is called vs ISU tomorrow.

I will take :38 from the tip.

Also lets have a pool to when the first ISU foul is called.

I will take that the clock will read 14:12 on it.

What ya got?

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I'll say :09 in. :) LOL!!! Probably on either Withey, Johnson or Young.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

:09 - Withey :10: - Johnson :11 - Young

GreatJake 8 years, 7 months ago

If KU gets in foul trouble lets hope our bench players will come out and play like they did last night.

I think there were some 30+ points from players coming off the bench

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

If they wear the new uniforms, they get a Technical at 0:00 for wearing fugly shorts.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Its increasingly obvious that referee foul and violation calling hinges significantly on whether another game is being cut away to. The KU-TTech game had a long intermission scheduled before the next game started, so the referees could (and did) call a bunch of fouls and violations.

The coaching formula grows increasingly clear.

If quick cut away planned after game, foul and violate pretty much non stop.

If no immediate cut away planned after game, play it close to the vest.

The games where there is not quick cut away planned should heavily favor KU's athleticism and skill, and the games with quick cut away's planned should be much tougher for KU, because the opposing coach will be able to use fouling and violations to deny KU's athleticism.

Time for Coach Self to check the cut away timing after the ISU/KU game.

NebraskaJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I have a feeling this one's going to be called tight, Jaybate.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Oh, I hope you are right. We need good officiating to beat ISU without an amp, so we can amp for the finals and sweep this fund raiser for the B12.

Michael Luby 8 years, 7 months ago

We wont need an amp for the finals against Kstate, atleast I don't believe so.

RJ King 8 years, 7 months ago

Bate, you know a lot about a lot. But living and working amongst TV execs and staff. I can assure you're theory is dead wrong. You should concern yourSELF with much more serious issues. A house of Cards is about to fall.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 7 months ago

BayHawk--you do not believe that games are called in accordance with the time alotted by the televisors, right? I don't know who is right--but I can tell you that Jay Bilas was on a local radio stating the same thing Jaybate has been saying for a couple years now.

Wish you would elaborate on what house of cards is about to fall on Self, too :)

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

Dear BayHawkaholic, Bayhawkaholic,

To be accurate, it could only be a "house of card".

One hypothesis: referees appear to engage in flexible foul calling to fit games in broadcast windows.

I don't claim its a proven theory. Just that it might explain current refereeing.

Frankly, you and Jay Bilas, though apparently holding opposite views (if I understand his and yours on the subject of fitting games in windows) seem to be certain of what's going on.

Maybe take it up with Jay?

Jim Stauffer 8 years, 7 months ago

Something that seemed to be true to me as I watched both of the previous games. ISU seemed to lose their legs and begin to miss their threes toward the end of the game.

I think KU needs to really work the ball hard so they have to expend energy on defense , thus bringing fatigue late in the game.

Most of all, it is really a breath of fresh air to see our game with ISU and KSU playing OSU. These are the most attractive matchups at this point in the tourney. If it ends with KU playing KSU, it would be story book for the Sprint Center and the surrounding merchants.

April13 8 years, 7 months ago

ISU is a tough team to defend but you are right, the shots won't drop late if we can work them to death on their own defensive end.

Dyrk Dugan 8 years, 7 months ago

KU must win this game decisively....if not, we get NO calls down the stretch.

if we're down two, driving to the basket less than a minute to go. they'll have to grab our shorts and pull them down for the foul to be called. we just won't get them. and on the flip side, if we breathe on them wrong if we're up two, then the whistle will be blown.

that said, i think ISU is making a mistake. and the local press here in KC...of making such a big deal of the game there. the Star noted not once but twice, in stories adjacent to each other on the same page, what happened in Ames. that and you get the stupid reference from the kitty coach in their Monday "celebration" of sharing a league title, and there is plenty of bulletin board material for Kansas.

the last line of the article about Iowa St today reads, "third time's a charm," from McGee.

i've never seen so much attention paid to a non call, which can be debated on the merits, in a regular season game before. it's really unprecedented. and now, ISU and fans, be careful what you wish for....the caution flag should be out.

KU 76 ISU 68 Go Jayhawks!

NebraskaJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

"KU must win this game decisively....if not, we get NO calls down the stretch."

I think you're right.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm kind of tired of hearing what a class act "the mayor" is.

He's a cry baby - leading a team full of cry babies.

Cry-owa State Cry-clones

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree. He went after the officials after the game was over and no one really made a big deal of it. If HC Self did the same thing, it would make the headline of every publication, and Weber would call for a permanent ban...and a mock funeral.
At the game yesterday there were a bunch of ISU fans around us and I have never seen a bunch of cry babies like these fans; they complained and booed every single call against the Cyclones.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

I disagree. He could have used the non-call as an excuse after the game, yet he took the high road.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

He did take the high road. Too bad his players (and Bruce Weber) haven't followed suit.

RJ King 8 years, 7 months ago

I never tire of hearing about a class act as long as its true.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

“I don’t think there’s a lot of emotion going into it." --Travis on ISU game tonight

Looks like no amp tonight.

Combine no amp with shooting back to average from 50% trey shooting and this could be a very tough game to win.

But no amp for the semi game is consistent with forecast.

Self seems unlikely to waste an amping unless the probability of a one seed can be greatly enhanced. The only way to greatly enhance that probability is by winning the tournament. That opportunity will not occur until the third game.

Assuming Self's history of not amping the team two games in a row continues, then the amping will likely occur for the championship game, which again, is the only game that can can achieve this. And that can only happen, if the KU team sent out flat yet again vs. ISU can labor for a win.

Another way of saying this is Self always plays to win it all. If he were more likely to win a one seed by amping for ISU and laboring in the Finals, he would do so. Recall, he amped for UNC in 2008 in the Semis, then they labored through Memphis "No SAT" State for a ring.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

I can't believe you're still trying to peddle the idea that Self "amped" the 2008 team only for the UNC game and not for the Memphis game. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Derrick Rose and co. had been utterly dominant in the tourney leading up to that game; that was a phenomenal team that was peaking right when we played them, and if we had played with anything less than maximum passion and effort we would have lost decisively. The only reason we didn't look as sharp in that game as we did vs. UNC was that Memphis was much better defensively than the Heels, and our jumpers weren't falling for most of the game -- it had nothing to do with lack of effort on our part.

I just don't buy this theory that Self deliberately decides NOT to "amp" the team for certain games, especially not in March. You can bet, if there's motivation to be found, Self will find it and use it to the utmost.

Travis's diplomatic comment to the media has no bearing on what he, and the team, are actually feeling. There's no end of motivation for our players in this game, starting with the endless whining from the national media, ISU players, and now even Bruce Weber about us not deserving to win the previous meetings. As for seeding, this game is huge -- if we lose, we have no shot whatsoever at a 1, and could drop to a 3 or 4. Believe me, we are going to be AMPED for this one.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

I liked your post, hawk_of_ages, until your comment about KU potentially dropping to a 3 or 4 seed. There's NO WAY that one loss in the conference tournament, to a very good ISU team, would make KU fall as far as a 4 seed from a 2. And it's highly unlikely that they would even drop to a 3.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

You may be right, but I do think two losses to unranked opponents in the last three games would give the committee serious pause. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see us drop to a 3 in that case, though a 4 is hopefully not in the cards.

ParisHawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I think you try to amp this board too often with your amp/no amp theory.

Can't believe Self wouldn't try to amp for the Championship Game.

KU cannot earn a 1 seed at this point. One of the current 1 seeds has to give it to us by losing today, and it can't be Gonzaga. Most bracketologists assume we have the automatic bid (meaning we win the B12 Tourney) and still put us at 2.

OOPS! Just found an article stating: "the Jayhawks have the most to gain this weekend". So you are not alone.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

I'm sure your analysis is correct, but to say we can't "earn" a 1 seed is just semantics. If we win today and tomorrow and someone ahead of us loses today, then we will have "earned" a 1 seed over them, I think.

Stan Unruh 8 years, 7 months ago

Not worried about tonight. It's next week that I'm worried about. Just enjoy this week.

jaybate 8 years, 7 months ago

"That’s what we have on this team, shooters with confidence.” --ISU's Clyburn

Run shooters in transition, make shooters guard the weave in half court, strip shooters, hound shooters, body shooters trying to make cuts, block shooters, alter shooters, trash talk shooters, put shooters on the floor if they are hot.

Then confident shooters become frustrated cowards because of tired legs and constant harrassment.

Robert Brock 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't know if the Hawks can make themselves care about this game. All the energy will likely be with the Clones who had their feelings hurt in Ames.

NebraskaJayhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I disagree. I think KU plays with a lot of passion tonight. There's been too much talk about the previous two meetings, and KU is going to make a statement.

hawkdiek 8 years, 7 months ago

Had their feelings hurt? LOL...gimme a break...Reminds me of a Jimmy Dugan quote.."There's no crying in baseball". Suck it up cupcake, time to put your big boy pants on. We've got plenty of payback fodder of our own. You want us again. You got us. It's gonna be special!

Dirk Medema 8 years, 7 months ago

Travis is a 5th yr Sr that knows enough not to twitter, especially to the media. What happens in the lockerroom that we see and hear about is much different that the lockerroom that we don't see/hear.

The 'Hawks have plent of motivation. We just need to convince a few players that it's all OT today.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

If our guys can't get motivated by all the smack they've had to hear from ISU and the national media the last few weeks, then they're dead inside. I don't think that's the case. I give the Cyclones a chance to win because they're a good team with the kind of personnel that gives KU trouble and they'll obviously be highly motivated, but they're going to have to play really well to win--I think our boys will come to play.

Sally Presson 8 years, 7 months ago

You bet we have payback!!! Those dang ISU fans acted like a MU fan, throwing things, yelling racial slurs and name calling!!! OF course the jayhawks will make themselves care about this game. We have to ram it down their throats, we're the better team fair and square. the jayhawks will have to beat th em down and put them in their place. Of course they are a good team, but KU is the best team!!! go get um Jayhawks!!! Send them crying home to their mamas

Rock Chalk

Phoghorn 8 years, 7 months ago

I thought they got ten minutes worth of final chances over the last two games...

Phoghorn 8 years, 7 months ago

A total of two technical fouls will be called...


Sam Constance 8 years, 7 months ago

Come on Keegan.

We've had to listen to the media drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the supposed "gift" that KU got in that game. Why the need to bring it up again? I'd argue that the Elijah Johnson play and the Jeff Withey foul issue were no more "memorable" than any of the TERRIBLE calls that cost KU points in the first half THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO [EXPLETIVE] REMEMBER.

Write about the game and the rematch and the implications and the memorable moments from the first two games, but just let the freaking end of regulation play die already.

As far as the game goes, I'm nervous, but I think the oversized chip that Iowa State is carrying around on their shoulder could end up being a detriment. They seem to think that they deserved to beat us twice and know that the only way that viewpoint can be at ALL validated is if they win tonight. That makes for a sizable amount of pressure to realize your own self-belief. That being said, KU is going to get no benefit from the officials, because even though the game was largely lopsided in favor of ISU until that final sequence, the media's political campaign against KU's win has put the officiating in this game in the spotlight.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 7 months ago

ESPN looks for low hanging fruit to write about.

TK picks up the rotting stuff of the ground.

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

I think it would have been odd if Keegan DIDN'T discuss the controversy from the last game. That's what ISU is using as motivation; it's obviously a huge psychological factor in the game. But I do agree that the "oversized chip" on their shoulder could end up being an albatross.

Micky Baker 8 years, 7 months ago

You think Releford was just being low key? Of course our players are hyped for this game.

Sam Constance 8 years, 7 months ago

No doubt.

I don't think Self is going to do the full amp partly because I think he knows the players have the motivation for this one on their own. They can't have enjoyed hearing their gritty performance and EJ's career night be overshadowed by some pseudo-controversy about one GD play. I think they want to put ISU back in it's place, and they have the opportunity to do so in an arena in which they've played several times this year.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

God, please...I don't want to witness Withey running around screens again tonight trying to keep up with his a chicken with it's head cut off. Hope Bill figures it out with a suitable defensive scheme.

jayhawkinATL 8 years, 7 months ago

It's going to be rainin' threes tonight...unless ISU is super-cold or we figure out how D it up.

msezdsit 8 years, 7 months ago

I have heard enough about how bad the officials were in the "no call" and Withey's foul attributed to Kevin Young. There were so many bad calls against KU that the few that went in their favor were no more or less than "make up calls". I think KU is 20 points better than KU and they just need to go out and play that game instead of letting an inferior ISU team hang around. Hit em hard and hit fast and this one will be over early.

actorman 8 years, 7 months ago

"I think KU is 20 points better than KU ..."

Is that like a yin and yang thing? Just wondering ...

dahawk40 8 years, 7 months ago

Typical Releford, staying smart and composed with the media. He's lying through his teeth when he says there's no emotion going in to this game. I believe we're going to be amped. With a senior-laden roster and experienced lineup though, the pressure of this game plays in our favor.

McLemore's hot shooting day yesterday was a big encouragement. If he plays like he did against Tech, instead of like he did at ISU (7 pts), we should have a hot game.

justinryman 8 years, 7 months ago

I think that the crowd in the Sprint Center will mostly be cheering for ISU, except those in Blue and White. OSU and KSU don't want to play us and the neutral fan will be cheering for ISU cause of espn crying foul on the no foul.

That gives the players a chance to play with a chip on their shoulder, and I hope they do. I hope this game is out of reach at the under 12 TO in the first half. That way the announcers can't talk about fouls, or luck or anything else except how good a team KU is and how great of coach Self is.

Blow out the cyclones and send em home. 3 up 3 down. Just like a good pitcher.

tis4tim 8 years, 7 months ago

I think we'll win by double digits today. Psychologically, ISU gave us their best shot in both previous games and still lost. That has to be at the back of their minds as game time approaches. And I can almost guarantee they won't hit 17 3-pointers today.

ChiClone 8 years, 7 months ago

I agree, I'm feeling more like 20! CyclONE Nation!

Jack Wilson 8 years, 7 months ago

Best case scenario .. get ISU in semis, and KSU in finals.

Can shut two mouths in appx. 24 hrs.

That might help our efficiency rating.

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't know about that. OSU feels jilted by our win there in 2OT's also.

Jake Waddle 8 years, 7 months ago

Ok KU fans... HUGE dilemma that i need help with! I have been offered a ticket behind the isu bench for free. The terms from the source and my brother (isu fans) are that im not able to wear KU gear or cheer for them. I've already told them up yours but am i making a mistake to not take the $500+ ticket?! Not an option to double cross them once in the arena. Help me out or give me assurance that im doing the right thing...

justinryman 8 years, 7 months ago

OK respect their wishes. But you can not control your passion at times you will cheer for KU.

Now for the kicker, you were a KU tshirt under your other shirt. And in true Super(fan)man fashion at the end of another KU win you rip off your neutral shirt exposing your true love and passion for KU.

What are they going to do at that point?

Do it!!!!!

That or find a pair of blue and white Zubaz to wear. They won't say KU on them, but hey why not!

Kevin Huffman 8 years, 7 months ago

I once was a guest within Mizzou's football press box and did just that!!!! :) took off my neutral sweatshirt to reveal my KU garb underneath! :)

hawk_of_ages 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't see how they could expect you to NOT cheer for your team. If you think you have that kind self-restraint, it might be worth going since the seats are so good. I'd have a lot of trouble doing that.

Sam Constance 8 years, 7 months ago

Tell your brother and his ISU friend to go eff themselves.

If that was me, I'd be annoyed that he even offered the ticket to me under those stipulations. I can at least understand the "no cheering" if you are right behind the bench (even though I think it's kind of a ridiculous and unrealistic request), but the order not to wear KU gear is [expletive] stupid.

nuleafjhawk 8 years, 7 months ago

I had free tickets RIGHT behind the K-State bench in Manhattan one time - I had the same stipulation. I kept my word (wore all black - that was when K-State was Purple or White - no black/gray) and managed to keep my poise while we whipped them by about 35. But I vowed - never again - when I go to games I want to be loud and obnoxious and cheer for my Jayhawks.

So - I say screw them - watch at home on TV.

Curtis Stutz 8 years, 7 months ago

I say go to the game. Go ahead and wear something yellow and red to blend in better with the ISU crowd. Cheer for all good plays on both sides. In a typical game this means you'll be cheering a lot more often for KU. If you really want to be a stinker yell things really loud after a KU block or dunk like "oh man they really got us on that one, how embarrassing"

Tony Bandle 8 years, 7 months ago

Take the ticket, go to the game, then excuse yourself for a bathroom break..find the KU students and yell your friggin' head off for awhile, then go back to the seat.

Repeat often and tell your bro you have a bladder infection!! :)

hawkmoon2020 8 years, 7 months ago

Hawks definitely need to bring their A game tonight and tomorrow, and show the BIG 12 pretenders who's boss. Also, I wouldn't go as far as saying ISU has "final shot" at payback. It's possible we meet up with them again during the NCAAs. Ditto for KSU. We could end up playing them 4 times this year too! LOL

JayHawkFanToo 8 years, 7 months ago

Once again. The no-call at ISU did not decide the game, Fran and Brent assertions to the contrary not withstanding.
If you are going to look at ball calls you have to look at all calls in context and not jut one in isolation.
There were actually two no calls in the play in question. EJ was bumped on his way to be basket (first no call) and a charge was not called one tenth of a second later (second no call). EJ still had to make the two free throws to tie the game and ISU still had 4.5 second left to the analysts realize how many points have been scored and games decided in the last 4.5 seconds? Then, ISU had 5 minutes to prove they were the better team and failed miserably; why is this even an issue anymore?

Jake Waddle 8 years, 7 months ago

I appreciate the advice... trying to bargain with my brother to take the free ticket and give me cash for bailing on me. then i can afford a better ticket. We have 4 hours left to drive so we'll see!

Phoghorn 8 years, 7 months ago

Okay, Highway Man, the Coach Turner Gill photograph is not confusing anybody. May your comment go POOF in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

packywacky88 8 years, 7 months ago

ESPN is reporting that the Big XXII Conference is preemptively issuing a statement condemning any potential "officiating errors" that might be made against the Cryclones tonight. Please tell me that sniveling, whining, poor excuse of an announcer Franscilla is not calling the game. BRING BACK KNIGHT!!!!

packywacky88 8 years, 7 months ago

I think they meant XII. Looks like they need to apologize for that too.

packywacky88 8 years, 7 months ago

I wouldn't be crying about it 3 weeks later. Prior to this year, I attended 9 straight KU-ISU games in Ames. Although nice folks, ISU fans are clearly the biggest bunch of low IQ whining B-Ball fans out there. I served with Kansas Fans. I know Kansas Fans. Kansas Fans are friends of mine. ISU fans, you're no Kansas Fans.

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