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Monday, June 17, 2013

KU football player Chris Martin dismissed from team

KU defensive end Chris Martin, a transfer from City College of San Francisco, arrived on campus in time for spring drills.

KU defensive end Chris Martin, a transfer from City College of San Francisco, arrived on campus in time for spring drills.

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Kansas University football coach Charlie Weis has dismissed junior defensive end Chris Martin from the program, KU announced through a press release Monday afternoon.

Martin, a 6-foot-5, 260-pound junior college transfer who played at Florida in 2011 and City College of San Francisco in 2012, was one of three men arrested on suspicion of robbing cash and marijuana from victims at gunpoint at a home on Camelback Drive on May 13.

The former five-star prospect, who was projected as a starter during the upcoming season, remains in an ongoing legal battle but will not move forward as a member of the KU football team.

“Due to recent incidents Chris Martin was involved with, he was given a list of stipulations he was required to meet for him to remain a member of the Kansas Football team,” Weis said in the release. “Because he did not follow some of those stipulations we have dismissed him from the team.”

Martin has been in trouble with the law before. He was cited for marijuana possession while playing at Florida and later transferred from the school. He came to Kansas to reunite with Weis, whom he originally committed to out of high school when Weis was still the head coach at Notre Dame. Their past connection, coupled with Weis’ willingness to give talented players a second chance while trying to turn KU football around, seemingly made the reunion a good match, but less than five months into his stay in Lawrence, Martin ran into trouble that cost him his chance to be a Jayhawk and may have jeopardized his promising football career.

Martin’s next court appearance is scheduled for June 24. That’s when he could learn whether he will go to trial for aggravated robbery or if the charges will be changed or perhaps even dropped. Sources told the Journal-World that the decision to remove Martin from the team likely would not change regardless of the outcome of his legal case.

Sophomore Ben Goodman, a 6-3, 255-pound defensive end who was listed behind Martin at the Buck position on KU’s pre-spring depth chart, figures to get the first crack at earning first-team reps at the position. Junior Michael Reynolds, senior Jordan Tavai and senior Keba Agostinho also could compete for playing time. Juco transfer Andrew Bolton, who has not yet arrived on campus, also might factor into the mix prominently at one of KU’s two defensive end spots.

Comments

Phil Leister 1 year, 3 months ago

You can take the guy out of the... how does it go? But seriously, I'll never understand why talented guys like this consistently make stupid life decisions. He had a great second (or third) chance and he blew it for some weed. Nice.

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MarloStanfield 1 year, 3 months ago

he didn't blow it for some weed. "was one of three men arrested on suspicion of ROBBING cash and marijuana from VICTIMS at GUNPOINT"

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Steve Reigle 1 year, 3 months ago

It's always sad to see a promising young man throw away his future like that.

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Terry N Tom Denner 1 year, 2 months ago

Do not worry my friend but the Dallas Cowboys or Raiders will draft him in the 2014 draft. Providing he's still not in prison at the time of the draft. Good luck to the kid regardless.

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fearthephog512 1 year, 3 months ago

Sad ending to his KU story. Hope he can find meaning and joy through other pursuits. He certainly would have been a factor on this team ...

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texashawk10 1 year, 3 months ago

There's no way to keep Martin at this point. It sounds like Weis was giving Martin every opportunity to remain on the team despite the accusations against him by giving Martin rules he had to follow and Martin couldn't do it. I'm assuming these rules included a curfew, drug testing, and stuff along those lines. Right now, Martin sounds like someone who needs professional help more than anything to deal with his own personal demons.

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Hurinfan 1 year, 3 months ago

Obviously coach thinks he's guilty of aggravated robbery at gunpoint. This isn't a guy I want in Lawrence let alone on our football team. Integrity is more important than winning. I get the feeling you think some people are above reproach when they're talented.

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jhawkart 1 year, 3 months ago

No where does it say that Coach thinks he is guilty of robbery. Since the incident he was given a list of stipulations to follow. He couldn't folow the guidelines coach gave him.

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Dirk Medema 1 year, 3 months ago

Exactly Jhawkart! Biggest thing that jumped out at me when reading the article. CW is going to give the player every opp possible to be responsible, but the players got to want it.

That's also why it is so so cool that Miller and McDonald are back on the team. That could have huge dividends the next time around on recruiting. The positive vibe of respect for the coach - and a few W's.

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John Randall 1 year, 3 months ago

Is this sarcasm, or are you really this stupid, JayDogger?

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 3 months ago

Absolutely not, JayDogger.

Weis gave him a second chance, and he blew it....regardless of the result of the trial.

I don't care if he was holding a gun or just there to take everyone to Applebee's afterwards.....kid should have gotten the boot, and his dismissal should be permanent.

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NebraskaJayhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

Chill out guys...pretty sure this is sarcasm.

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Terry N Tom Denner 1 year, 2 months ago

Really JayDogger ??? Just how much lead paint that you chewed off the window frame and digested when you were a toddler ??

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Displayhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

All brawn and no brains! What a waste!

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Tgfevurly 1 year, 3 months ago

Unfortunately, you can't coach stupid. The young man does not deserve the honor to be associated with the university if he is unable or unwilling to make better choices in life. Good riddance.

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Mark Lindrud 1 year, 3 months ago

Jay dog

it's not about him being better or giving him another chance. he was given a second chance already. he blew it.

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Boouk 1 year, 3 months ago

Addition by subtraction. Ben Goodman and Michael Reynolds aren't big drop-offs from Martin in the pass-rushing department.

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Joe Ross 1 year, 3 months ago

His Kansas career was over before it even started. Thank you Weis for holding to standards. This action will make others think twice.

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nuleafjhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

jross1972, I agree with your sentiment, but it won't really keep anyone else from being stupid. It makes us fans feel better that the KU coaches and administration are doing the right thing, but the next people that act stupid won't think about this incident at all.

Unfortunately.

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champdave 1 year, 3 months ago

Would've been our first DE in a while with legit NFL potential. But clearly he lacks the maturity to make that happen. Hopefully for his sake he turns his life around and gets a chance to play in the CFL or something.

One of the most frustrating parts of this situation is that it sounded like they changed the defensive scheme largely because of him. From what I saw of Goodman last year, it seemed like he was a power rusher who might be better suited to a more traditional down lineman position rather than the buck. But maybe I'm wrong. And now it seems like our best configuration might involve Combs and McKinney being on the field at the same time, and the buck isn't ideal for playing two guys who are traditional interior lineman. So I wonder if the coaching staff is thinking about a switch, which might slow us down a bit early in the year. But maybe I'm wrong about some/all of that. Or maybe the buck system is just what Michael Reynolds needs to finally unlock his potential.

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Truckhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

Kicking Martin off the team isn't about him. Its about drawing a line for the other 100 or so guys on the team. Stick to your guns Charlie.

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Paul Wilson 1 year, 3 months ago

Martin was not kicked off the team because of the incident. After the robbery...."he was given a list of stipulations he was required to meet for him to remain a member of the Kansas Football team" "Because he did not follow some of those stipulations we have dismissed him from the team.”

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KGphoto 1 year, 3 months ago

I think prison is the priority in his life. He’s working so hard at it.

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NebraskaJayhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

You're exactly right. However, I would wager that had the outcome of the court case been a guilty verdict for Martin he would have been dismissed at that time as well anyway. This just made the decision sooner and easier to move on without him. Unfortunate though.

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canuckhawk 1 year, 3 months ago

I'd like to see the "list of stipulations". Just curious, not implying anything.

What does a frequently troubled young man have to do to stay on the team?

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jc1306 1 year, 3 months ago

I'm guessing it was curfew, extra conditioning, etc.... Probably demands on his time that would limit his ability to be where he shouldn't.

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JayHawkFanToo 1 year, 3 months ago

How many chances did this guy blow? Obviously one too many...

Good Advice.

Good Advice. by JayHawkFanToo

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jayhawkinATL 1 year, 3 months ago

What a dumb a$$. Good riddance!!!

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Mark Lindrud 1 year, 3 months ago

It is what it is. Now guys have to make the most of their opportunities. Next man up and hope he's a better person. For humanity sake, I hope Martin rights himself and grows up, even if he's out of football for good this time.

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Scott Smetana 1 year, 3 months ago

Too bad our judicial system is so slow. If it were quick, we could suspend (not release) players accused of crimes. Innocent until proven guilty. Instead, his trial will likely be 3 years from now and this leaves coaches no choice but to let them go.

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texashawk10 1 year, 3 months ago

Would you prefer one of the lesser developed countries where people are kept in prison until their trial date which can easily be 3+ years from the time of arrest.

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Scott Smetana 1 year, 3 months ago

Texas, your post makes no logical sense. If you read my post, I'm wanting quick due process is all. jhawk classic, your so very very wrong... you're suggesting the police get their story right every time. Everyone who is accused is guilty?

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Stop_the_Madness 1 year, 3 months ago

A very sad story. Hopefully he will be able to turn it around, but he may have used all of the chances he will be given.

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johninkc1 1 year, 3 months ago

It would be awesome to be as good in football as in Men's Basketball and Women's Track and Field but only if we have men that represent our University and themselves well while doing so, otherwise, we are part of the problem.

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Hammertime12 1 year, 3 months ago

Seem to be downplaying the seriousness of these charges. Armed robbery of cash and drugs? How is he not facing jail time? Hope he has a good attorney. He could be moving from Lawrence to Leavenworth.

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texashawk10 1 year, 3 months ago

Martin very well could face jail time, but he hasn't had his hearing yet to know what he's officially being charged with yet.

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Dirk Medema 1 year, 3 months ago

This isn't about the charges. This story is about the football team, and the rules and conduct players have to follow to stay on the team.

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Keith Gellar 1 year, 3 months ago

i know..if he was on the bball team..then we know for a fact this would be turned into a civil trial or whatever and pushed to the side. but football isn't their yet, but maybe weis does have some strings to pull.

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David Meredith 1 year, 3 months ago

It seems for Kansas football to compete in the Big 12, they have to take chances on guys like this sometimes... might have been a difference maker, like an Aquib Talib or a Dezmon Briscoe.

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Vernon Riggs 1 year, 3 months ago

Very impressed with HCCW. It would have been very easy to find a way to bend a few rules to keep a Five-Star player on a team that didn't win a single conference game last year. But HCCW didn't. He showed class and integrity. Rock Chalk Charlie!

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KGphoto 1 year, 3 months ago

This guy doesn’t belong in school. His best hope is to go straight to the pros. Don’t know what level he’s capable of (Canadian, Arena, or NFL) but it’s obvious college is not for him.

If he has to do any time it will make it even harder to go back to school. He’s 21 already and depending on the charges and results in court he could easily be dipping into his athletic prime. The pros draft and sign so heavily on potential.

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chriz 1 year, 3 months ago

hey, Matt Tait...jeopardizeD...just sayin

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Patrick Leiker 1 year, 3 months ago

I'd like to request the journal world not post any additional updates on the status of his legal proceedings. I don't think kansas football or its fans should have to waste one more second thinking about this sorry sack.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 3 months ago

I was slightly worried Weis wouldn't stick to his guns on this one.

We may never win a conference game again, but we can at least try and weed out the repeat offenders.

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Terry N Tom Denner 1 year, 3 months ago

Was reading the troll postings from the Meth heads SEC group. Must they forget that there are 3 players at Bama facing the same BS !! There are others on the KU team that will step up and fill the void at DE. Maybe not as fast as he was but will be just as good. Got my season tickets and can't wait for football to begin !! GO JAY HAWKS !!!

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KU_Dude 1 year, 3 months ago

At least he still has career with his band Coldplay to fall back on. Hopefully they'll take him back.

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Randy Bombardier 1 year, 3 months ago

Maybe that's what it takes. Winning games at gunpoint.

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CrystalJones 1 year, 3 months ago

I think you have a point. We have won exactly 2 -- count 'em, 2 -- conference games in our last 4 seasons of playing the game of football.

Firearms, knives, explosives. Whatever it takes.

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KGphoto 1 year, 3 months ago

I really got a feeling about Ben Goodman. The guy exploded during his redshirt year and gained about 30 pounds of muscle. He’s a good athlete, a hard worker and a tough, country kid who has a year in Campo’s system. He could be ropin’ some QBs this year!

Also, everything I’ve read about Bolton is really good stuff. You get an offer to play DE at LSU, you must have a little something going on.

This Martin departure doesn’t bother me much.

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Jim Jackson 1 year, 3 months ago

I cannot believe he screwed up again after Weis gave him another chance after the accusations came out.

Won't be surprised if the charges against him are dropped.

What an idiot.

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martyks 1 year, 3 months ago

Welcome to the World Of Weis. I can hear the trailers now. "KU Football... and you didn't think it could sink any lower... now, did you?"

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martyks 1 year, 3 months ago

Weis: Okay, so you robbed a guy at gun point? Martin: Yeah, coach. Weis: That's not good. I told you, knives are acceptable. Guns? This isn't good. Martin: Yeah, coach. I messed up. Weis: Okay, but no harm done. He got his money back, right? Martin: I spent it, coach. Weis: Well, you can pay it back. We'll work it out. Martin: Okay, coach. I'm sorry I didn't use a knife, coach. Weis: At least you show contrition. Martin: Yeah, coach, I'm contrite all right. Weis: So, a couple laps and say you're sorry and suit up for practice then. Martin: Coach, what about the marijuanna? Weis: You gave it back, right? Martin: I smoked it, coach. Weis: No pot heads. You're off the team. Buh bye.

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sokanhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

When you give players who have screwed up in the past a second chance, not all of them take advantage of it. Some will continue to make bad choices, and some make bad choices for the rest of their lives. This guy got kicked off the team at Florida and Cal before he played a down for either program. We shouldn't be surprised he couldn't make it to game #1 at KU. Hopefully, Dexter McDonald, Darrian Miller, and Nick Harwell will all make the most of the second chance they are getting. Speaking of Harwell, is he still working on graduating this summer so he can be eligible for the upcoming season? I'd love to see both he and McCay catching passes from Heaps!

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