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Sunday, July 14, 2013

Jeff Withey finally makes his pro debut

Kansas center Jeff Withey pulls a rebound from North Carolina forward James Michael McAdoo during the first half, Sunday, March 24, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo. In back is Kansas forward Kevin Young.

Kansas center Jeff Withey pulls a rebound from North Carolina forward James Michael McAdoo during the first half, Sunday, March 24, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo. In back is Kansas forward Kevin Young.

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Former Kansas University center Jeff Withey of the New Orleans Pelicans scored four points and grabbed five rebounds in his NBA debut — a 69-61 loss to the Milwaukee Bucks on Sunday in the Las Vegas Summer League.

Withey, a 7-footer from San Diego who didn’t play in the summer-league opener on Friday because of administrative delay involving physical exams of the players involved in a recent three-team trade, hit two of six shots in 17 minutes. He had one blocked shot.

In other summer-league games involving former Jayhawks:

• Combo guard Elijah Johnson had zero points and zero assists against two turnovers while playing 12 minutes in the Los Angeles Clippers’ 81-77 loss to the NBA D-League Select Team. He missed his only shot attempt. Former KU forward Darnell Jackson scored 11 points off 5-of-7 shooting and grabbed two rebounds in 19 minutes for the D-League.

• Forward Thomas Robinson scored seven points off 3-of-12 shooting and grabbed 10 rebounds while playing 28 minutes in Portland’s 81-63 loss to the Los Angeles Lakers. Former KU combo guard Josh Selby had four points off 1-of-7 shooting with one assist against three turnovers in 17 minutes for the Lakers.

Recently, ESPN’s Chad Ford and Bill Simmons discussed Robinson in a podcast transcribed at blogs.trailblazers.com.

“I still think he can play. The talk around the league is, well Thomas Robinson, what they found out about Thomas Robinson, was that he couldn’t remember a play,” Ford said of Robinson, who was taken fifth overall by Sacramento in the 2012 NBA Draft, then was traded to Houston in February. He was recently shipped to Portland for his third team in just over a year.

“And No. 2, that he wanted to do more on the offensive end than he’s really capable of doing. We saw a little bit of this at Kansas and Bill Self did a really nice job of reining him in, where he wants to handle the ball and shoot it a little bit, thought he had more abilities than perhaps maybe that he really had. But you’re talking about a young player. You’re talking about a player that the stat guys love coming in. And a guy who can for sure rebound in the NBA. For sure he has that ability to rebound at the NBA level.”

“I think, again, there’s a herd mentality in the league,” Ford added. “They love you one minute then they’re off you the next and the same scouts that loved Thomas Robinson a year ago are now rolling their eyes like he can’t play. I think this goes again, we try to understand the draft and which players are a great fit.”

Chalmers events coming soon: Online registration for Mario Chalmers’ fifth-annual National Championship Golf Classic (July 29, Alvamar) and VIP mixer (July 28, Cider Gallery) is available at http://bit.ly/1aGcQLD. Also, Chalmers, who has a basketball camp July 22-25 at Olathe East (register at http://bit.ly/15er93o), is hosting a celebrity all-star game at 7 p.m., July 25, at O-East. General admission is $20, with free admission for campers.

Comments

Clarence Haynes 9 months ago

T-Rob looked good against Chicago. He got 17-18 rebounds in a very competitive game.

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oldsoul 9 months ago

Nice article from the New Orleans newspaper about Jeff, complete with quotes from Pelicans' coaches:

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2013/07/post_22.html

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jaybate 9 months ago

Let me get this straight.

Vampire Le Chad reports that "talk around the league" is that Thomas Robinson can't remember a play.

How then did Thomas master a 1000 page play book for Bill Self?

Vampire Le Chad, are you smearing a KU player again, as you appeared to smear Ben Mac after reputed one-time Nike-lean Andrew Wiggins signed with Adidas-contracted KU and during the run up to the last NBA draft--the one where there was an outside chance that Ben would be taken number one...sometime before you appeared to start smearing him?

Tsk, tsk.

What ever you are doing, Mr. Dusk to Dawn, I hope it guaranties you some access at non Adidas programs.

Why?

Because I got a wild hunch you are going to be vampira non grata at KU and a few other Adidas programs this coming season.

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Ethan Berger 9 months ago

Thing is with the current ways of the NBA, very few college coaches have developed NBA stars. The college game used to be similar to the NBA game. Then the NBA changed some, partly due to rules. Now the stars in the NBA who stayed in school for 3 years or more is Steph Curry and Tim Duncan. In the 70s/80s every kid was staying more then two years. When combined with the best generation of coaches and desegregation, college ball exploded. Then all those stars went to the NBA and we saw the best basketball ever. Now the athletes are bigger, faster and stronger. But now we have seen the mid range game and low post game almost vanish. Even our team hasn't been a great mid range team. Which is why B Mac has a chance. A great athlete with a great deep range shot. This isn't really on Bill as much is it is on the evolution of the game. Plus all the pampering hasn't helped with those AAU kids.

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lhohman3 9 months ago

Withey Summer league update game two / first half: 01:06 [CLE] Felix Layup Shot: Missed Block: Withey (3 BLK)
01:05 [CLE] Team Turnover : Shot Clock Turnover

8 mins. 3 blocks.....WITHEY in your EYE, sucka!

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lhohman3 9 months ago

Markieff's game is quickly becoming the rich man's Robert Horry, minus the NBA titles & "Big Shot" moniker. Love seeing the vast improvement(s) of Morris twins between seasons 2-3. Maybe Trob & Tyshawn can make similar strides after this season. If so, 6-8 year NBA careers...?

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lhohman3 9 months ago

Markieff could turn out to be top 5 best stretch 4's in NBA within 2 yrs.

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Sam Constance 9 months ago

I don't worry about how the performances of guys like TRob impacts KU's reputation for getting people to the NBA, because as has been noted, recruits should be looking to KU to get them to the NBA--succeeding is up to them.

What I do worry about is the notion that since Calipari is so connected to NBA circles through William "Worldwide" Wesley, he and WWW are able to influence the talent evaluators to get Kentucky alums more time/opportunity than other prospects might get.

So the pitch is no longer "don't go to KU--they don't produce NBA stars", but rather "don't go to KU--they can't get you as many chances to get noticed in the NBA as I can."

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hooligan42 9 months ago

you know, the "violation of privacy" surveys are bad enough, (they should be optional) but when you completely delete, not just remove comments (when you can still see that a comment was made) That sure makes it seem like a little more to these so-called "harmless" surveys. The only way to get rid of these is to keep answering the survey wrong, sooner or later they will see that these marketing surveys don't work. Thanks again kusports.com!

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Jack Wilson 9 months ago

Self's job is not to make NBA ready players. Self's job is to win games, and win national championships. I understand that selling recruits on KU includes a path to the NBA. And an NBA star or two would help. But that's the "sale." It's a source of pride. It is nothing more than that. It's not the goal.

Self can't coach this team worried about whether his instruction turns a player into a more NBA ready player. We can't worry about that either. His job is to coach the team to win a national championship. The hand wringing about whether Withey will be this, or McLemore that, or TRob if is an NBA bust .. it's all a waste of time.

Build it and they will come. Self has constructed an empire (which was in darn good shape when he moved in -- thanks Roy). He wins with deep teams, he wins with thin teams; he wins with high level talent, and he wins with low level guys. It's about pursuing a national championship.

NBA success for the players is just a cherry on top for us. But the sundae is real good without the cherry, and it is complete without it. For proof of that, how irrelevant will any and all of this NBA talk be when this team gets rolling with practice in October, or when another recruit commits? We won't care. We'll have 200+ comments on a page about an unranked, new commit, and 12 on a story about Tyshawn and his playing time in Brooklyn.

I can tell you that I'm a heck of a lot more interested in whether Jamari Traylor can hit an 12 foot jumper this season, or whether Frankamp can handle the ball well enough to be the back point guard, than I am with whether any of these guys are playing in the NBA. And it's not even close.

But I guess it is July ....

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Sparko 9 months ago

The reality is that the NBA has the patience of a gnat. Pierce almost got canned before he shined. Opportunity=confidence. I'd like to see these guys given some serious PT and let them work to form. Kansas being the winningest team in the NCAA the last several years is not a fluke--or all Self.

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oldsoul 9 months ago

I saw the Pelicans' game yesterday. Considering he wasn't even allowed to practice with the team until the trade became official, he didn't look bad. He affected several shots on defense, he wasn't getting muscled as much as I thought he might, and he was trying to look to score when he got the ball.

As for the Jayhawks' track record in the pros, besides Pierce, Hinrich, Collison and Chalmers have all had solid careers. They aren't stars, but Hinrich has been a starter for most of his 10 seasons, and Chalmers has been a starter for most of his career, while Collison has never been worse than the 6th or 7th man in the rotation.

Of the younger guys, McLemore should be fine. I don't know if he'll become an All-Star, but if he stays healthy, he'll be in the league for a long time. And I bet Withey will stick in the NBA for years, too. Aside from McLemore (and Wiggins), the younger guys wil likelyl all be role players in the NBA, but what's wrong with that?

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lhohman3 9 months ago

Nobody mentioned the Morris Twins yet. They looked awesome in their first summer league game. Their physiques are unbelievable, maybe in the best shape in all the NBA.

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Kevin Huffman 9 months ago

Well, at least Thomas had 10 boards. And really not too shabby for Jeff in his 1st game debut...2-6 sukks, but maybe he was taking some longer range jumpers to jack that up.

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clevelandjayhawker 9 months ago

Could Wiggins stay?

Money- He doesnt have to be the provider for his family, his dad played in the NBA, money to buy mom a new house prob isnt going to be motivation to leave after one year

Attention- He seems to not be the typical oprea singer #1 recruit we always see ("me, me, me, me, meeeeee") There was no hat ceremony, no third person context, he just seems to be a down to earth kid that isnt bigger than himself.

Improvement- He seems like he has his head on straight, I think he is going to want to be really ready for the NBA before he leaves, including defense. He may or may not be ready right now, but Hudy will make him even stronger and Self will make him a better player. Maybe he will want to come back to a system that will really work with him to achieve his best.

Champions- If we make a deep run and dont win it all will Andrew be motivated and upset to the point that he wants to come back for another year and win it all?

Women- Maybe he will fall in love with a fellow Jayhawk and not want to bolt to the NBA right away. His parents met in college, maybe he will me Mrs. Wiggins there?

Crazy- Maybe I am crazy, but there is a chance he could come back for year 2 in Lawrence.

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hotrodm 9 months ago

T-Rob will be fine, probably not a starter, but he will get 12 minutes a game grabbing rebounds and slamming dunks. Ben will get his stroke back and play a lot. Jeff will get 10 mins a game, a block and 3 rebounds with 4 points. They need to accept their roles and make the most of their minutes and stick some of their bankroll away for the future.

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Carter Patterson 9 months ago

I really hope that Ben and Mario can make up the difference when Pierce decides to retire. We send a lot of players to the league but Pierce is the only star.

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Chuck Stones 9 months ago

Also I think Coach Self designed some offense around the abilities, or limitations of guys like TRob and Withey. That isn't happening in the NBA.

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REHawk 9 months ago

Withey has sat for a couple of weeks. Double his 17 minutes and statline, and he is at 8 pts., 10 rebounds and 2 blocks. Not a bad first appearance considering the helter-skelter action on the summer league court.

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REHawk 9 months ago

What it all might boil down to, Bill Self has been the mastermind who can fit pieces into winning puzzles. If Portland is patient in blending TRob's physicality into their mix, good things will evolve. No doubt, Thomas lives in that sped-up mode wherein he seeks immediate impact, regardless of changing playbooks. Patience and time....

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Mark Lindrud 9 months ago

Self helps them get drafted. The rest is up to them. He has proven he can make a player better, and for some, can make them a pro a la Withey. Self can't make them all stars. The fact we have players drafted and in the league is cool and with the guys we have this year that could get alot better.

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Brett McCabe 9 months ago

It's natural to want these guys to do well, and I think that many of them will over time. I want them all to have long, productive and profitable careers.

But the bottom line for me always will be: what did they do while wearing Crimson and Blue? Nothing that happens in the "league" will ever impact my opinion of what they did for 'ole KU.

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FearlessJayhawk 9 months ago

At this point it doesn't look like any KU player is going to set the world on fire with their play. Apparently, none of them have star quality. I though sure at least McLemore would be something special. Maybe things will be different in time. However, I wouldn't bet the farm on any of them.

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jhox 9 months ago

He's on his 4th different offense in a couple of years. It has to be pretty tough remembering plays with all of those offenses going through your head. Hopefully, he can stick with this team a little longer. Self has no shortage of plays, and he turned out pretty good at running those.

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Ferd Magellan 9 months, 1 week ago

Selby was the summer league MVP last year. Don't worry about these meaningless, ugly scrimmages. It's all cherry-picking, back and forth chaos.

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chriz 9 months, 1 week ago

Ugh. I wish we had a better track record in the league. The cupboard has certainly been bare over the past years, at least since the championship team. Those guys, save Chalmers, are hardly even panning out.

Here's to Wiggins!

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