Monday, July 8, 2013

KU prep prospects impress at LeBron camp


Two of the top seven high school basketball seniors in the country, who both are considering Kansas University, excelled at the LeBron James Skills Academy, which concluded Monday in Las Vegas.

Cliff Alexander, a 6-foot-8, 240-pounder from Chicago Curie, who is rated No. 4 nationally by, emerged as the dominant big man at camp, while No. 7 Rashad Vaughn, a 6-5 shooting guard from Cooper High in New Hope, Minn., played so well “he’s asserting himself as the top shooting guard in the class of 2014,”’s Eric Bossi says.

A leg injury kept No. 6-rated Myles Turner, another KU prospect, from going head-to-head against Alexander on Sunday night.

“Simply put, Alexander was awesome,” analyst Dave Telep writes at “Most of his rebounds were two-handed and he dunked everything in sight. His offensive game is coming together quicker than expected and the baby hook is his go-to move. As big and as strong as he is, he has room to improve as a finisher (outside of the dunking, of course). The only defense for Alexander is to attempt to knock him a foot off his sweet spot and take your chances. The entire day belonged to Alexander.”

There’s a good chance Alexander will make his official visit to KU for the Oct. 4 Late Night in the Phog. That news was reported by No. 8-ranked Stanley Johnson, 6-6 senior small forward from Mater Dei High in Santa Ana, Calif., who will likely be visiting KU for that event. Alexander is also considering Michigan State, Kentucky, Louisville, Illinois, DePaul, Indiana, Memphis, Baylor and Arizona.

Meanwhile, regarding Minnesota native Vaughn, Telep writes that “Kentucky and Kansas are basically guaranteed official visits.” Vaughn is also considering North Carolina, Baylor, Minnesota, UCLA, Iowa State and others.

“While Alexander has looked like a future NBA player on the interior, Vaughn has looked like one on the wing,” Bossi writes from the LeBron camp. “The Minneapolis product was stroking jumpers from deep, finishing at the rim and as always hitting the glass extremely well for his position. No other shooting guard in the class can score as well as Vaughn can from all three levels, and it is quite apparent that his talk about working to take smarter, more efficient shots isn’t just talk, because the proof is in his much more efficient play at LeBron.”

Vaughn has not yet decided what prep school he’ll attend for his senior season.

No. 3 junior has KU on list: Ivan Rabb, a 6-9 junior power forward from Bishop O’Dowd in Oakland, Calif., who is ranked No. 3 in the Class of 2015, will trim his list to 10 to 15 schools at the end of the summer AAU season. ESPN’s Telep says KU, North Carolina, UConn, Cal-Berkeley, Arizona, Oregon and Ohio State “will be in the mix.”

Pierce plays poker: Former KU forward Paul Pierce, a member of the Boston Celtics until a trade to the Brooklyn Nets becomes official later this week, played at the World Series of Poker last weekend in Las Vegas. According to, Pierce entered the $10,000 buy-in pot-limit Omaha championship, which attracts the best professional poker players in the world. Pierce at one point was in the top 20 chip count, but was ousted Saturday night.

Taylor nets 25: Former KU guard Tyshawn Taylor scored 25 points off 7-of-13 shooting with three assists against five turnovers in the Brooklyn Nets’ 93-86 loss to the Miami Heat on Monday at the Orlando Summer League. He made one of four threes and 10 of 11 free throws.


Ralster Jayhawk 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Survey fun:, I do not own a cell phone...(hehe).


kubb 9 months, 2 weeks ago

You got to love jaybate. Way to bring some levity to the discussion.


jaybate 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Part 2

In case you were wondering, Tom, and even if you were not, we are using the compulsory surveying (CS) as a diversionary tactic for engaging KU posters, so that we can build up personality profiles of posters that can be used in conjunction with the comet trails of their internet surfing to decide whether these posters need to be abducted and subjected to enhanced surveying techniques (EST) at special Enhanced Survey Centers (ESC) created secretly during the Bush Administration on the outskirts of most major metropolitan statistical areas and which are staffed with mauve-beret-wearing XTReme Marketing Majors. These centers, I am at liberty to say, are often located within major media markets that our analysts say are generally given preferred spin by national broadcast talking heads in comparison with piss ant media markets like yours. But beyond that I cannot go.

Tom, we believe that this is one of those times when going along to get along is the patriotic and sportsmanlike thing to do here. I can promise you without qualification that we will share everything we learn with you unless we think we shouldn't.

I want to compliment you and your staff for how well you are handling this blow back without knowing it was a premediated act of deception on our part...for the good of basketball, of course.

Carry on, and as your readers post....

Rock Chalk!!!

(Note: All fiction. No malice.)


jaybate 9 months, 2 weeks ago


Part 1

FROM: I. M. Waching, Meta Director, Department of Homeland Surveying

TO: Tom Keegan

RE: Blow back from reputed mandatory survey taking before posting

Dear Tom,

We here at the Department of Homeland Surveying (not to be confused with the Department of Homeland Security) apologize for intentionally forgetting to notify you that we would be making this change in your web site. However, our intentional over-site was entirely unavoidable and, I might add, an integral part of our now 12 year and counting War On Basketball Terror (WOBT) effort, especially with regards to our necessary pursuit of Total Information Knowingness (TIK).

Tom, it has come to our attention that we don't yet know everything there is to know about everything, and so we have decided to take the audacious step of appropriating bottom feeding market research tactics developed by the private sector (BFMRTDBTPS) to ramp up our full-spectrum-knowingness (FSK) strategy. Yes, we are using compulsory surveying (CS) and we are using your website without your permission, or prior knowledge (WYPOPK), in this incredibly necessary national basketball security (NBS) effort. In the War on Basketball Terror Ages (WOBTA), that have eclipsed the Cold War and the Industrial Age, and that competes for acronymns with the actual War on Terror, we have concluded that no factoid about basketball consumers is too insignificant for us not to know.

We here at the Department of Homeland Surveying have reason to believe that the website is a repository for things we don't yet know and want to know about everything that we might ever want to know, and even about some things we will probably never want to know, but want to collect, so that people can never be sure about what we are using and what we are not using.

For instance, we are confident that there is a gap in our knowledge spectrum about something called "staying on spots," and about "manning up," and about "scoring the ball." Some of our analysts are really wanting to ramp up knowledge about "scoring the ball." We want to know more about those subjects and about subjects we don't yet know we don't know about. All really good surveying seeks to understand not only what it needs to know, but also what it doesn't know it doesn't need to know. Ya follow?


Robin Smith 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Re recruiting: there's so many good players. If we end up with only two spots, I don't know how Self will decide.


Robin Smith 9 months, 2 weeks ago

A little context on Tyshawn's play in the Orlando Summer League and his situation with the Nets. These games are chaotic and at times players are desperate to show what they can do. Additionally they've practically never played with each other before. Turnovers happen. What's important is that Tyshawn has shown he can dominate and exert his will. He's been sensational by summer league standards. He has a good chance to be on the OSL All-Star team. Livingston is insurance and could be in front of Tyshawn in the depth chart (for a little while), but he's a career backup. Kidd and the Nets are definitely planning on grooming Tyshawn for the future. Speed, scoring spark, and defense are exactly what you want in DWill's backup. CJ Watson (PG) is gone, as is Marshon Brooks (scorer). Look for TT and an aged JET to spearhead a pretty quick and potent second unit, when the starters are resting up.


NWJayhawk425 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Way off topic of the article, but some friends and I are planning a trip to Chicago this year for the Champions Classic, has anyone been to one of the last two? If so, what were ticket price ranges and how hard/easy was it to get them? Thanks!


jayhawkinATL 9 months, 2 weeks ago

I have the feeling we are about to be deleted again. LOL


William Davis 9 months, 2 weeks ago

I just wanted to voice a little support for the new voting system.

Clearly, donations and ad revenues were not sufficiently reasonable and this was the best available option. I have read these articles for years at no direct cost to me, and I am happy to answer some questions in order to support the continuation of articles. If that means that I have to answer questions regarding my flavored milk preferences, then so be it.

It is a little upsetting to see so many people jumping ship as soon as they are asked to contribute 10 seconds of time. I wonder if people would have been so 'offended' had you required $0.10 per article view.

Rock Chalk


jayhawkinATL 9 months, 2 weeks ago

I love answering the Google questions all wrong!!!


hooligan42 9 months, 2 weeks ago

and yes, I do intentionally answer the questionnaire wrong, which was the comment that erased earlier


hooligan42 9 months, 2 weeks ago

why does remove comments about their forced annoying survey? It's not like you can just continue to erase your customers opinions and pretend that they are not there. I am giving 1 month to get out of any contract that they have signed with that survey agency, after that, no more It's not like I haven't already found other websites that talk about all things KU. The clock is ticking, the choice is yours!


jaybate 9 months, 2 weeks ago

"Tyshawn Chaser from Yesterday's Thread"

TT is a mold breaker at PG.

Traditional PGs like Kidd and Rondo get you a high assist/TO ratio, but require lots of good shooters around them to get the assists; that's the traditional point guard mold. The traditional in the box point of view.

To be efficient in the traditional POV, PGs need lots of good shooters around them; shooters that can make shots 23-28 out to get threes, when the traditional PG can't score at the rim and make FTs for 3pt plays.

But a little recognized problem with traditional point guards is they are often passing the ball to long shots with lower shooting percentages than inside scoring, and as the game wears on long shot shooting percentage declines.

Traditional PGs dishing off are most often kicking out, where a trey is taken and a long rebound results, which is good if you have good perimeter rebounders and bad if you don't.

Traditional PGs aren't very good trifectates. Kidd averaged 35% career and Rondo in the high 20s. Among the tradional PGs TT would be above average from trey.

Tyshawn's combo of length and XTReme speed and get to the rim allows him to break the mold. Breaking the mold means he does not have a glossy assist to TO ratio. But it turns out that this is good.

TT driving and shooting first makes team offense vastly more efficient, if the team is schemed to capitalize on it, as we learned his last season, when Bill and Joe finally figured out how to do it.

It means way more first shots are taken within 5 feet. And way more second shots occur within 5 feet. If a team has dominant rebounding bigs, and one good rebounding wing you almost can't lose statistically playing Tyshawn's game.

This approach is so fantastically efficient that Self was able to win 30 plus games with five good guys and two near walk-ins. It is also why KU hung with UK's 6 OADs even with two starters barely able to play on their injuries.

In this approach it is the new normal for a PG to have near a 1:1 A/TO ratio and to go negative not infrequently as the price of shooting consistently close to the basket.

This approach also yields more truly wide open looks when treys actually are taken.

Kidd grasps the concept, or he wouldn't be testing it so vigorously with Tyshawn. At the same time he is hedging his bets with the new backup.


Ted Hume 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Jack Wilson 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Rashad Vaughn - 6'5" shooting guard: We have Selden and we have Greene. We also have White (at the 3) and Frankamp (a 1 or 2).

Cliff Alexander - 6'8" power forward: We have Ellis and we have Embiid; and we have back ups Traylor and Lucas; and we have redshirt Mickelson.

Sure, I get that some guys could go pro. Decision time for recruits most always comes before decision time to turn pro. Most of the time (but see Randle and Wiggins).

Don't get your hopes up this time around (2014).


REHawk 9 months, 2 weeks ago

TT has now scored 42 points in the two games. Turnover numbers don't look good, and assists still low for a Jason Kidd mindset.


Michael Pannacciulli 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Wonder when the first big name mentioned above will declaee at any school. Takes one and the dominos begin to fall. Alexander sounds a beast. Vaughn too sounds like the real deal. Hope you fellas make it to Late Night! You won't regret it and you will have a hard time beating KU for all that any University can affor a blue chip prospect. Academics, great fans, best coaches, staff, trainers, history, campus beauty, and Allen Fieldhouse...need I say more? Heck the guy who invented basketball was a coach here. I'll stop now...


Michael Luby 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Tyshawn can score at will, there's no doubt about that. But, it seems as if he is still very turnover prone. Wonder if Coach Kidd will take a chance on him. Probly not though, cuz he just brought in some guy from the Cavs to compete for back up PG who is 6'7"


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