Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Big 12 working on preferred bowl lineup, schedules

Sun shines on the midfield logo for the Cotton Bowl at Cowboys Stadium on Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012, in Arlington, Texas.

Sun shines on the midfield logo for the Cotton Bowl at Cowboys Stadium on Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012, in Arlington, Texas.


— Big 12 athletic directors worked Tuesday to determine the league’s preferred bowl lineup with the anticipation that the Cotton Bowl will become part of college football’s new playoff system.

The 2½-hour discussion about bowl alignment took up a bulk of the agenda as the ADs wrapped up a two-day meeting with Commissioner Bob Bowlsby and other league officials that also involved football scheduling.

Most of the first day was spent discussing the makeup of the 10-team league and “what-if” scenarios about staying at that number or eventually expanding.

“We feel very good about our current lot in life. We like our revenue distribution, we like our competition, we like our composition. We feel very good about where we are,” Bowlsby said Tuesday. “Beyond that, we’d be unwise to be oblivious to all that is going on around us. We need to be constantly vigilant. I think in coming out of these meetings we’re prepared very well for that vigilance.”

According to Forbes, the Big 12 will generate about $26.2 million per team this school year through network television deals, bowl games and NCAA tournaments. That’s the highest per-team average of any conference.

The Big 12 had nine of its 10 teams to bowl games this past season. No other league had ever sent 90 percent of its teams to a bowl in the same season.

Bowlsby said Tuesday started with a quick recap of what was discussed the first day to make sure there was nothing else the ADs wanted to talk about after thinking about it overnight. There was none.

“There was nothing more on conference composition today at all,” Bowlsby said.

So they moved on to the primary agenda items of bowls and schedules.

While the first semifinal games in the new playoff system at the end of the 2014 season will be played in the Rose Bowl and the Sugar Bowl, the site of the first championship game hasn’t been selected. Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, where the Cotton Bowl is played, seemingly a front-runner for that title game and then to be in the rotation for semifinal games after that.

When all that is finally settled in the next few months, the Big 12 will be ready to work on other bowls.

“Once we know the host bowls, we’re going to be anxious after that to put some deals together and we’ve got to go to that bowl which we think we want to have first after the so-called system, and try and get a deal with them, and then go to the second one after the system,” Bowlsby said. “This was just a way to sort of identify our priorities.”

Under current arrangements through the 2013 season, the Cotton Bowl gets the top pick of Big 12 teams not in the BCS.

Bowlsby said it would be a “fair projection” that the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, which now has the next pick after the Cotton Bowl, or the Meineke Bowl in Houston could move up in the picking order it the Cotton Bowl is in the playoff rotation.

“They’ve both expressed a desire to move up and-or maintain a high level of association and Texas is always going to be our core,” Bowlsby said. “It meets the priorities from a destination and travel standpoint, so yeah, they’re certainly in the mix to replace it.”

Another priority for the Big 12 is getting a tie-in with one of the Florida bowls. Bowlsby said the league has had conversations with Gator Bowl officials and two other bowls in Florida.

“California, Florida, and Texas comprise more recruits than the whole rest of the country combined,” Bowlsby said. “That’s been a shortcoming of our bowl lineup in the past, and we need to fix it if we can.”

The Big 12 already has a bowl agreement with the Holiday Bowl in San Diego.

On scheduling of conference games, Bowlsby said the main topic there was putting together future schedules based around a set of principles, such as not having more than two road games in a row, instead of particular matchups.

The commissioner did say the Oklahoma-Texas game would be kept in the first three weeks of October during the State Fair of Texas.

“We’ve got this set of principles, we’ll send you a schedule that meets the principles. And some years you’re going to get a better schedule, and other years you’re going to get a worse schedule,” Bowlsby said. “But it has to be acceptable if it meets the principles, so that’s what we spent our time on.”


Matt Kenton 8 years, 2 months ago

$ per school, in millions

Big 12: 26.2 Big 10: 25.8 Pac 12: 25.3 ACC: 24.4 SEC: 19.3

Tony Bandle 8 years, 2 months ago

Think long term however to get to the "super conference" total of 16 teams, using current TV package totals:

1] Big 12 - 10 x 26.2 = 262/16 = 16.4 per team.

2] Big 10 - 12 x 25.8 = 310/16 = 19.4 per team

3] PAC12- 12 x 25.3 = 304/16 = 19.0 per team

4] SEC - 14 x 19.3 = 270/16 = 16.9 per team

Maybe we need to rethink this a bit!!!! Our conference needs to add the most teams so it will need the biggest increase in the TV package.


Jeremy LeMaster 8 years, 2 months ago

This post was purely facetious, correct?

Why would there be A LOT OF PRESSURE TO ACT in order to reduce the pay by 10 million per team? The stance has been that there is no need to expand just to expand. If other conferences expand to 16 teams, where does that leave the Big 12? As the strong conference bringing in millions more per team than the big conferences.

There is a lot of pressure to ensure you only expand if there is an addition of > 26.2 million per added team. Otherwise, the benefit would be solely on the increase in market. The conference is tied in with the TV execs to vet possible acquisitions and whether or not those teams would increase the value of the conference in terms of TV dollars at a rate that increases the rate of return on a per team basis. And then, you only add the teams if the broadcast rights deal is modified to account for the additional revenue when the team(s) is added.

Brian Skelly 8 years, 2 months ago

I'll point out that a big reason we had the higher payout per team was the fact we had 9 teams play in bowls. We all know who missed out. So maybe it was good we took it in the @#$@ so that all those teams could get to 7-5. I dont think so, but its tough to envision getting 9 in bowls again next year.

Having two BCS teams and us making the Final Four likely helped as well. Thats not something a conference can bank on I every year I woudlnt think. But whatever.

Ron Prichard 8 years, 2 months ago

I get the Forbes numbers are based on money this year. However, isn't the SEC about the redo their TV deal next year? The Big 12 just negotiated its deals, so our money is pretty much set for the forseeable future unless we add more teams/expand the TV footprint, etc (I'm guessing there are clauses that allow the deal to be reworked if more teams are added/lost/changed). I have a feeling that while we can laugh at Missouri going to the SEC for less money right now, that number will change dramatically in the next year or two. We can still laugh at Missouri, but maybe not for that reason.

If this is incorrect, someone please let me know. However, that is my understanding.

If the Big 12 could tie into the Gator Bowl every year that would be great.

Ron Prichard 8 years, 2 months ago

A query to the KU board rats: The Forbes number includes money from "NCAA Tournaments." I would guess that includes the basketball tournaments for both men and women as well as baseball, etc. However, my question is is the money for the men's basketball tourney allotted? Is it based on number of teams making the tournament or how many games played? Will the Big 12 get more money for having KU make the Final Four or the same no matter how many games a school plays? I remember reading about the tournament money a couple of years ago, and I know the NCAA takes almost all the money the networks pay for the tournament for their operating budget. This is why football is so much more lucrative than basketball. The BCS money goes to the schools and not the NCAA. If the money for the tournament actually went to the schools, basketball would essentially be just as lucrative as football. What I don't remember reading is how the money that does go to the schools (a very small part of the overall pie) is divided.

TxJyHwk 8 years, 2 months ago

You are correct that NCAA keeps a large chunk of the money made on the basketball tournaments.

However, I think the money paid to the school/conference is based on how many games you play in...which is why the smaller schools actually want "play-in" games against each other (becasue one of them will get to play two games and thus make more money)

so..the further each team goes, the more money for the conferecnec

kerbyd 8 years, 2 months ago

Did you see that Washburn has 2 alums in the superbowl? More than ND and a lot of other big shot football programs.

Terry N Tom Denner 8 years, 2 months ago

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Terry N Tom Denner 8 years, 2 months ago

Come on KU Sports !!! You are now acting like the KC Star or should I call it the Communist Star !! Can't speak the truth on here or you will get your comment REMOVED !!

Patrick Bryant 8 years, 2 months ago

I just want a name that reflects our conference whether that be Big 10, 12, 14, etc. or just go with a name that doesn't have a number in it It's crazy to say Big 12 w/ only 10 teams and the Big 10 with 13 teams or whatever their configuration is nowadays.

Doug Roberts 8 years, 2 months ago

I hope they keep an affiliation with the Insight Bowl. I love the Phoenix area and had a great time. I'd love to be bowl eligible for sure, but I have no interest in visiting Texas. Just sayin'.

Terry N Tom Denner 8 years, 2 months ago

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