Kansas defeats Texas Tech, 60-46

  • 3 p.m., Jan. 12, 2013
  • United Supermarkets Arena, Lubbock, TX

Saturday, January 12, 2013

Flat in Lubbock: KU overcomes energy woes in 60-46 win over Texas Tech

Texas Tech fans watch with dismay as forward Kevin Young finishes an alley-oop dunk during the second half on Saturday, Jan. 12, 2013 at United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas.

Texas Tech fans watch with dismay as forward Kevin Young finishes an alley-oop dunk during the second half on Saturday, Jan. 12, 2013 at United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas.


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Press Conferences & Post-Game Interviews

KU coach Bill Self talks after win over Texas Tech

Kansas coach Bill Self talks after his team's 60-46 win over Texas Tech on Jan. 12, 2012.

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Travis Releford and Kevin Young

Kansas seniors Travis Releford and Kevin Young talk to reporters following the Jayhawks' 60-46 victory over Texas Tech on Saturday.

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— Like the rest of his Kansas University basketball teammates, ever-energetic Kevin Young had a case of the blahs Saturday afternoon in half-filled, tomb-like United Spirit Arena.

“We were playing flat in the first half. It seemed like we were just out there,” KU senior forward Young said.

Young scored just two points off one shot in the first half as the zombie-like (14-1, 2-0) Jayhawks led the (8-6, 1-2) Red Raiders, 27-25, at halftime. He erupted for 12 points off 6-of-8 shooting the final 20 minutes as the Jayhawks rallied to claim a 60-46 victory before an announced crowd of 8,534 fans in Tech’s 15,098-seat facility.

“Kevin drives me nuts. He drives me nuts,” KU coach Bill Self said. “He can play so well. At 6-foot-8, he can run and jump and not even contest a shot or a layup with a 6-foot guy shooting it with one second left on the shot clock or not even come close to blocking out a guy when his man is the best offensive (rebounder). When he turns the switch, he does a lot of great things.

“We’re so much better with Kevin in the game, but if he would just hone his focus in on the thing that we know he’s good at, we’re so much better. That’s what he did in the second half. In the first half he didn’t play with that energy, and I think that’s one reason we labored.”

Self grinned and said, “I don’t know. You’d have to ask him,” asked if KU’s coach “turned the switch” for Young at halftime.

“At halftime we were down on the boards. Coach emphasized they had seven offensive rebounds and we had only five defensive rebounds. We tried to stop them from attacking the offensive glass,” Young said. Tech outrebounded KU, 16-8, the first half — a half in which KU scored just five baskets and dished a mere two assists. “Coach said that stat at halftime, and it was another emphasis we needed to change,” Young said of the made baskets/assists.

Self had a lot of things to say, rather emphatically, at the break.

“He was pretty mad,” KU center Jeff Withey said. “I’ve seen way worse. We were still up by two. I felt we played pretty bad, but we knew what we needed to do to correct ourselves and did it.”

The Jayhawks’ five first-half hoops in 18 shot attempts were fewest made baskets in a half since the Jayhawks made six in the first half at Oklahoma State on Feb. 13, 2006 (KU’s half-only records began in the 1988-89 season).

As far as assists ... KU had just one in the second half at Texas last season.

“Well, we tried to wake up,” Self said of the mood at halftime. “I was disappointed in our play obviously. That’s as miserable as an offensive team can play, I think.

“I thought their defense was good and they kind of punked us on the glass, being physical. We had to decide whether we wanted to be here or not.”

Young had six points in a 12-0 run that upped a 29-28 lead to 41-28 with 13:41 left. Included was a bucket following his own miss; a basket following his two missed free throws and a highlight-reel dunk on a breakaway.

“It helps a lot,” Self said of the team benefiting from Young playing with energy as he did in the final half. “He needed to step up. He had plenty of room for improvement based on the first half. He stepped up and was real aggressive the second half.”

Self said one problem has been the way the last two opponents have guarded KU. Young has been unguarded on the perimeter with extra attention being paid to Withey, who scored 12 points off just 2-of-3 shooting. Withey did sink eight free throws in 10 tries.

“It will be difficult getting Jeff the ball if they don’t guard Kevin and they didn’t guard Kevin the first half. The second half he took advantage of that, personally. He goes and scores eight straight points or whatever the second half off being aggressive because they were shading Jeff the whole time,” Self said.

Withey said he’s noticed double-teaming.

“I feel a lot of people are going to start playing us like that,” Withey said. “Iowa State played us like this (in KU’s overtime victory on Wednesday in Allen Fieldhouse). We have to learn from it and get better.

“He (Young) had a great game the second half,” Withey added. “The first half he made some bonehead plays; the second half he showed energy. He was starting to get dunks.”

Noted Young: “We have a 7-footer down there. He has to touch the ball. He has to get off more than three shots a game. I think the next game (8 p.m. Monday at home vs. Baylor) we’ll work on that a lot.”

The Jayhawks upped their second-half lead to 46-32 on a three by Naadir Tharpe with 9:31 left. KU built the lead to 18 points (58-40) with 4:21 left. The Jayhawks hit 14 of 23 shots the final half, heating up to 46.3 percent for the game to Tech’s 35.4 percent. KU hit three of 10 threes; Tech four of 11.

Freshman Ben McLemore followed his 33-point game against Iowa State with 10 points off 2-of-7 shooting.

“It was a tough night for the whole team to get in the flow,” Self said after his team scored a season-low 60 points, lowest total since 59 in last year’s NCAA title game against Kentucky. “Ben ... he would tell you that’s probably the roughest night he’s had this year. There were some other guys who had rough nights, too.”

Elijah Johnson had five points off 2-of-6 shooting with four assists and four turnovers; Travis Releford 12 points off 4-of-5 shooting with three rebounds. Tharpe had six points and Jamari Traylor one for the only bench points.

“Give Tech credit. They played hard,” Self said. “I think they’ve got good players. If they play with that type of energy all the time and guard, I think they can be a good defensive team. I think you should look at us as being inept offensively, but in large part because Tech was good defensively.”

Young said a valuable lesson can be learned from KU’s second-half performance, heading into the Baylor game.

“It (33-21 advantage) came from us as a team playing well on defense, getting steals and rebounding and being able to push the ball,” Young said, noting “energy” is always a key.


Suzi Marshall 8 years, 3 months ago

That game was like getting a tooth pulled without any novacane! We 2-0, Kentucky lost ... regardles of how we played, a great day!

jhox 8 years, 3 months ago

And in football the Broncos lost...a very good day indeed.

TexasRockChalk 8 years, 3 months ago

And Ohio State beat Michigan today :) We should be ranked either #2 or #3. I hope we don't go too high, especially before a BIG MONDAY game! Rock Chalk!

BCRavenJHawkfan 8 years, 3 months ago

Anyone know when the team traveled to Lubbock? If it was yesterday then no excuse for the lack of energy. If it was today then that's just idiotic as they would've had to have left at like 4:00 am.

Marcia Parsons 8 years, 3 months ago

They probably are tired. Monday will be their fourth game in nine days. No time to rest.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

4th game in 9 days.... kind of like what they could face in the NCAA tournament?

I don't buy that argument at all. They are 20-year-old athletes in as good of shape as anyone in the world, and they had just come off playing 3 games in 3 weeks (or whatever that stretch was). Plenty rested. If they are tired from playing the same scheduling that every other player in D1 faces, then we are in serious trouble.

Steve Gantz 8 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like this won't be a game we wax poetic about for years to come. Self and Young not seeing eye to eye on a few things. BMac finding the road tougher than cozy AFH. I'd hoped we might have a senior year EJ renaissance like TT last year. So far doesn't look like it. He'll just go down in the annals of KU players fading in our memories.

I attended LSU-Florida today. Made me long for KU and AFH! Bought 15 dollar nosebleed seats, then moved down to very good seats that no one ever came and claimed. A student of section of about 150 kids tried to rally the team. Florida is very good, it was at least fun to see one team know what they're doing.

But I really want to go to another KU game someday! Will definitely be tuned in Monday night.

texashawk10 8 years, 3 months ago

KU playing with absolutely no energy like usual in Lubbock. At least Tech is only the 9th best team in the Big 12 or KU would've lost that one. I will say though that it's impressive KU can still beat a major conference team even when playing their "D-" game. One thing I have been going back and forth on is the defense and whether they've been lucky or good. The defense has only given up 70+ points twice and 60+ 6 times in 15 games and only 3 teams have shot over 40% this year, but the eye test says KU's defense hasn't been that good. Have they been better than I think or has there been a lot of luck or KU's reputation scaring teams while shooting?

David Leathers 8 years, 3 months ago

Withey is a big reason for opponents low FG percentages. For one, he forces teams to take longer shots. Then, when they decide to go for a layup he is either altering the shot or blocking it.

I firmly believe we wouldn't even be a top 10 team right now if Withey wasn't on the team. At best we would probably have a 12-3 record, losing both the Temple and ISU games. Possibly 11-4, because I don't think we would have pulled off that win in Columbus.

texashawk10 8 years, 3 months ago

I know Withey disrupts abything near him, but it also seems like KU to has allowed a lot of open mid range and 3 point attempts that teams just haven't made. This team just kinda has the feel of the 2009-10 team that didn't lose many games, but something just felt off all year with that team and I have the same feeling about this team too.

Beate Williams 8 years, 3 months ago

If Withey was not on the team there would be someone else on the team and maybe we would not utilize the same type of defense as a result, but the player that would be there instead of Withey would be a quality ball player that would fit the strategy established by CS.
What makes you think that CS would be so inept that if he had not gotten Withey 3 years ago he would not have gotten someone else?

David Leathers 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm not saying we wouldn't have gotten someone 3 years ago if Withey had not chose Kansas. I'm saying if Withey decided to go pro last year or something were to happen to him this year to keep him out of those games, we wouldn't have the same record. As the announcer kept saying yesterday, BS is a master architect of the college game. I'm not doubting that statement at all.

As far as not utilizing the same type of defense, there is only one man-to-man defense, and pretty much the only defense HCBS uses.

TexasRockChalk 8 years, 3 months ago

Texashawk10: Nice to see other Texas Jayhawks :) Hope to see you in Austin, FW, or Waco for the KU games!


VaJay 8 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know why the handshake between Coach Self & the TT coach was such a flyby? Looks like there's something beneath the surface on that one. I thought that was kind of rude of Walker to do that.

kgreg01 8 years, 3 months ago

Maybe he feels uncomfortable since he took over for the ousted Gillespie who is good friends with HCBS

David Black 8 years, 3 months ago

TT coach was very rude! I don't think a word was said but Walker looked really upset after the quick handshake! Rock Chalk..on to Big Monday.

soapisurfriend 8 years, 3 months ago

Walker may have been upset about Coach Self's protest of the carry call on Tharpe in the closing minutes with the game no longer in doubt.

Gil Ek 8 years, 3 months ago

Did it really look like 8,500 fans in the stands. Tough to go from AFH to an empty gym to play.

Brian Williams 8 years, 3 months ago

There's no way there were 8,500 there. I think half in the stands were wearing crimson and blue.

actorman 8 years, 3 months ago

"The Jayhawks’ five first-half hoops in 18 shot attempts were fewest made baskets in a half since the Jayhawks made six in the first half at Oklahoma State on Feb. 13, 2006."

I'm surprised to see this same stat used in two different columns. I posted something about this in the notebook too, because it makes absolutely no sense. It would be nice to actually know how long it's been since KU has had FIVE OR FEWER baskets in a half.

Dirk Medema 8 years, 3 months ago

It makes sense. You're just asking a slightly different question.

It means that every game KU has played since Feb. 13, 2006, they have made at least 7 shots in every half. On 2/13/06, they made 6, and yesterday they made 5. 5 is less than (fewer than) 6 or 7.

Kendall Von Bevern 8 years, 3 months ago

The comment makes no sense. Why would you say 5 is the fewest since 6? If you're doing that you could say 5 is the fewest since 15 last game. You should say five is the fewest since the last time they had 5 or fewer.

David Gisi 8 years, 3 months ago

The article mentions that KU only started keeping "half-only" records since the 88-89 season. I believe what he means to say is that the 6 baskets in the 2-13-06 game was the previous low for a half, since half-only stats started being kept. The 5 made baskets in the first half of this game would be the new low.

Benjamin Clay Jones 8 years, 3 months ago

Bedore has done this for years. "KU held the Crimson Dufuses to 38 points, the fewest points allowed since it held the Golden Morons to 40 points." Get used to it. You'll see it again.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

I thought the exact same thing when reading it. It is something Gary does pretty often, however. Still doesn't make it any easier to digest. I wish it would have simply said, "fewest since half-only records began in 1988." Much more powerful of a statement, and is considerably easier to understand.

actorman 8 years, 3 months ago

For such a good writer, it is strange that he would keep writing something so nonsensical. Thanks to you and Speakeasy for reminding me that Gary does this. It would be nice if he would give us something more useful.

Jim Roth 8 years, 3 months ago

I fell asleep on the couch during the first half. I thought it was just me.

Shawn Otrimble 8 years, 3 months ago

I think what should be mentioned here is the fact that Tech stalled almost everytime they had possession. That would drive me nuts too. What a boring way to play ball, but it worked for a half and made us impatient. By the second half Self made the adjustments and let the flow of the game seem to be more relaxed.

REHawk 8 years, 3 months ago

Surprises me that no posters have yet mentioned the temerity of Tharpe to dominate and dribble the ball for a full clock before hitting his long 3 at the buzzer. First time a Bill Self recruit has ever pulled that off, I would imagine. I told the wife, "Watch closely now to see what happens." Yep, Naadir got the quick yank!

TenaciousD 8 years, 3 months ago

What? No article on how awful the point guard play was from KU? That was the story of this game. Elijah was horrible at leading the team and also horrible at running the point. Tharpe wasn't much better.

With Coach Self directing all of his comments at KY's lack of energy and trying to get him to step up and lead, I think he has already given up on Elijah to be the leader of this team. That might explain Tharpe getting so many minutes at the 1.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Tharpe logging more minutes than Johnson in another week or two. And that's not a good thing. Elijah needs to step up and lead.

Self is really searching and almost pleading with KY to lead. It makes you think back to when Self was threatening to start KY at the point. Just a threat but also a challenge to Elijah, which he obviously has not answered.

No leader and mediocre point guard play.... only Coach Self could coach and motivate his way through this issue. He will earn his $ this year.

Jack Wilson 8 years, 3 months ago

Today's Michigan/Ohio St. game will give a bit of insight on our Jayhawks. If Michigan goes into Columbus, controls the game, and wins without a significant test in the last 5 minutes, the luster is off a bit there. We then look at our schedule and question the impressiveness of our accomplishments, particularly given the closeness of some of the games. Amazing how that might be the case with a 14-1 team. We lost to a decent Michigan St. team, and probably the best opponent other than Ohio St. -- Temple --- we barely got by at home.

But there's nothing wrong with looking at it that way. We're KU. We're not MU. We're playing this season to win a national championship.

An Ohio St. win and suddenly we jump Michigan in the polls and we're maybe the flavor of the day. A tight game win by Michigan, it's a push.

The perception is out of our control -- today.

The season, though, will have its ups and downs. That's how it is.

Tomorrow night, we can make a statement. One way or another. Thrash Baylor, all is good. Struggle or lose, well, you know.

I would say that tomorrow night's game is a perfect insight into the character of this team. More than a pedestrian win at Texas Tech every could be, or more than a 35 point win at Tech could have been. Tomorrow is against a challenger for the league title. We looked "tired" yesterday according to Self. And now we have a quick turnaround for a big Monday game, national TV. Oddly, coincidentally, the same type of turnaround you would get in the NCAA tournament.

Tomorrow night's game will start a 3 game "character" test. We then go on the road vs. a Texas team we should own, and vs. a K-State team that is thinking about their opportunity against KU right now. They have it circled, the biggest game of the seaon in the house the Roy built.

Character building has commenced. Once you have the requisite talent, which about 20 teams do, team character is as important a factor as any come March. Team character was a huge factor for the 2011-12 Jayhawks run to the title game. It was right there in front of us. Right now, I think we'd all agree that we just don't have a good read on this team yet.


Ben Kane 8 years, 3 months ago

just got home, flipped on the osu/um game and my first thought when i saw the lopsided osu score was, man this bodes well for the jayhawks. :)

Ben Kane 8 years, 3 months ago

of course the game has tightened up since then... Go OSU!

TexasRockChalk 8 years, 3 months ago

OSU tried to choke away the game, especially late, after blowing a 21 point lead! We needed them to win, so there are no more unbeaten teams, but also because it makes our win against the Buckeyes a higher quality win for KenPom and NCAA tourney seeding purposes. Michigan really didn't look that great. I think they may be a little overhyped. If we can stay in the Top 5 the rest of the season, I'll be content. I think some of our guys may be reading too many press clippings about how good they are...

Jack Wilson 8 years, 3 months ago


Individually, we thought we knew after the ISU game. McLemore was our go-to guy. After Tech, uh, not so much. Feed Withey? Teams are now doubling. What took so long? Teams will see that making KY beat them is the best option. KY may do that. But it is the best option. How do we react? Further, teams will see how ISU stretched the floor with Withey, and how matchups with smaller, more athletic units can cause us problems. It's no secret. We see Releford completely disappear. Why? I wish I had the answer. We see EJ get sloppy on multiple possessions, and seem completely unable to get in the paint (until, strangely, the end of the game). And more concerning, we are getting very little production out of Ellis, or Traylor. Where does that go? Meanwhile, White sits on the bench, gathers dust and rust, when that sort of option could be of great value as the season progresses -- particularly if teams play small. Self will toss him in at some point and get upset that he doesn't perform. The kid needs some minutes now to be ready at a high level. But that won't happen.

We just don't know much about this team yet.

LAJayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

"...teams will see how ISU stretched the floor with Withey..."

Very true. What you also saw Tech do quite a bit was have the guy Withey was guarding out on the key. It brought Withey out of the paint and neutralized our considerable advantage of having him parked out down low. That takes away our security net when our guards get broken down defensively (which, as we all know, happens much more than we would like). More talented teams won't do that as much, but I still expect to see it much more often moving forward. It'll be interesting to see how Self responds. You might even see a bit of zone mixed in to keep Withey in the paint. Or, at the very least, much more switching, which will create some mismatches

Ben Kane 8 years, 3 months ago

i don't think you will see much of white for the rest of the season. I'm basing that off of Self's past not on White at all.

Suzi Marshall 8 years, 3 months ago

i'm with you with regards backing Kentucky ... and N. Carolina. Calipari was well liked when he was at KU. He was loyal to Ted Owens and Brown kept him around in large part because of that. His wife is from KU. I'm only pulling agaist Kentucky short term, until we make up those 16 wins to become the all time victory leader.

Ben Kane 8 years, 3 months ago

well you two have clearly never lived in kentucky. I wouldn't put Cal in likeable category either, unless your comparing him to likes of Drew. The only shred of loyality Cal has is to coach Brown, not to Kansas.
yes, kentucky is a royalty program but the only reason for that is Rupp. 90% of kentucky fans have no idea about their kansas connection through Rupp and are the most arrogant fans i've ever met. Most kentucky fans actually hate KU more than any other school stemming from the Roy beatdown of Pitino.

Suzi Marshall 8 years, 3 months ago

Owens recommended Cal for the job with Brown for a reason. It was one of the most painful time for Kansas B-ball and Cal hung with us. Ask any of the players, those in the department, student's close to the team. Brown didn't know Cal.

BTW.... I was at that beatdown game! Pitino was an jerk. Roy had in all the subs, down to the 3rd team. I think Kentucky still had in some starters. We kept beating the hell out of them. Toward the end of the game, Pitino flipped off Roy. Everyone saw it. I suppose hard core Kentucky fans will always recall that one.

hawkmaster 8 years, 3 months ago

TenD, I agree, KU's point guard play is horrible with EJ and NT. You have to go back before the 1988 championship team to find worse starting/back-up point guards for KU, I thought EJ would turn it up after playing well the end of last season.

He teases with flashes, such as two driving key lay-ups near the end of the Iowa St. game, but then disappears as quickly. He settles for the 3, which he shouldn't even be shooting, and has even taken the same or near as many shots as McLemore in some games. He constantly throws the lazy pass that gets stolen and in many games his D is just average.

I would not mind if he scored 5 points a game, if he would just eliminate turnovers, get some assists, play much better defense, and RUN the team with efficiency and energy. Its hard to think of a top 30 point guard in the nation that brings less energy to the game. KU will make it through the weak Big 12 schedule just fine with EJ, but unless something changes I think that will be KU's downfall in the NCAA tourney.

HAWKTOPIA 8 years, 3 months ago

KY should be practicing his 17 foot shot just above the free throw line. If he starts dropping shots from there, whithey is back to one defender and game on. If KY plays a full game at max effort and effectiveness, he will be a force. he is showing great stats at 60% game. he could be putting up double doubles with 2 steels and 4 assists a game. If all he does is grab 10 rebounds he is a lock on the court. if he scores 10 bang! the other team has a problem. Rodmanesque!

wrwlumpy 8 years, 3 months ago

I hope their schedules allow them to come to more games. This team loves being in People magazine and having people read about Jason and Olivia visiting them in the locker room. Jason spent one entire visit talking about Thomas Robinson to David Letterman. So, if you are a recruit who would like to be on a Blue Blood championship team with tons of love nationally, playing to everyone's full house and having your publicist be Hollywood and even the pornstar endorsement here and there.

TexasRockChalk 8 years, 3 months ago

KY is definitely the glue that keeps our team together. I thought it was Rele, but for some reason, he disappears for long periods of time, for no apparent reason. BMac isn't it either; he's too passive about being the "go to guy" as he's a freshman, and out of deference to the upperclassmen, doesn't seek to insert himself into the game with any assertiveness. I agree that KY needs to polish his 10-15 foot jump shot...even taking a few dribbles into the paint and shooting that soft 10 footer. The TTU bigs were sagging on JW BIGTIME! KY did a much better job in the 2nd half, but why did he need to be lit up by HCBS to initiate that kind of play?

Coach Self has remarked this on many an occasion in his pressers: this team has too many nice guys on it. We need to punk Baylor on Monday night and regain that mental edge over Big 12 opponents.

On that note, the Mrs. went to Baylor and is a die-hard Green & Gold fan, but she knows how much it kills me when my Jayhawks lose, so she does the right thing and roots for KU :) She even offers better commentary on game-day action than the TV announcers at times! Rock Chalk!

741hawk 8 years, 3 months ago

Interesting. I'm also blessed with a wife who is a better commentator than most who do the KU games! Speaking of commentators, did you see the Vandy vs KenSucky game in which Vandy got hosed by a KenSucky basket after the shot clock expired? Bobby Knight could not tell the difference between the game clock and the shot clock? Reece went over and over it with him and he didn't get it. Then Knight was confused when time went off the game clock. (They had actually run a play.)

I have never seen dementia set in so quickly. Surprised I haven't seen anything written about this.

TexasRockChalk 8 years, 3 months ago


I did happen to catch the end of the Vandy/Kentucky game and I concur with you on Vandy getting totally hosed. My best friend (who also went to KU)'s daughter goes to Vandy, and I believe she was at the game.

I also remember thinking the EXACT same thing about Bobby Knight too! LOL! That dude is getting senile...dementia definitely setting in! Reece Davis tried to let him figure it out on his own, but finally he had to hit Bobby over the head with it! ;) ESPN protects BK as much as possible, because he's a "legend" (notice how I put it in lower case and in quotation marks) haha!

We will be watching tomorrow night for sure, and are making the drive down to Austin as well. We also will attend the TCU game in Ft. Worth and the Baylor game March 9th in Waco!

ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK from the Lone Star State!

Ben Kane 8 years, 3 months ago

I don't think we should be hitting any panic buttons with this team yet. They are still finding their way and learning how to adjust to what teams throw at them. now that we are in conference play opponents will know us much better and come up with things that will force us out of what we want to do. the more we learn to adapt and deal with it the better we will be come march.

Tharpe and KY will be the keys here and I think Self understands that. KY needs to keep bringing the energy and being the leader on the floor and Tharpe just needs minutes to calm down, learn how to play through the offense, and how to create for others.

My biggest concern is on the defensive end. Everytime I see Withey go to the bench i get a knot in my stomach worrying about how we are going to stop them from scoring. However, I know that Self will not allow this team to dog it on the defensive end and he will whip them into shape.

I also feel that we are going to see many low energy games this year. It is hard to get up for game after game when we aren't playing anybody very good, specially games on the road. For that reason I expect we will drop a few games still but that doesn't matter very much. I don't think we need to worry about that come tournament time, those games are pretty easy to get up for.

Steve Brown 8 years, 3 months ago

If they double Jeff then KY must have big nights. If not, then put in 34. Mr. Ellis has great upside, it is nice to see him struggle and over think and mess up. It is all part of grand plan. Some of our best upperclassman start like Perry, lost in space the 1st year.

In couple years Mr. Ellis will be National POY yet lots of ball between now and then, enjoy the ride.

Nice to see Dookies and Mich go down, we rise up one rung at a time...RCJHGKU.

KUfanInFlorida 8 years, 3 months ago

The positive from this game is that KU played much better in the second half. I am predicting a big shot blocking night for Jeff tomorrow against Baylor.

KUfanInFlorida 8 years, 3 months ago

I think he is going to be a big time player for the Jayhawks. It's only one game you know.

JayDocMD 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm excited about Frankamp and looking forward to his arrival. He sounds like a natural scorer. The questions: How athletic is he compared to Big 12 caliber athletes? Can he can play the defense that will be required of him in order to see the floor on a Bill Self team? We'll see...

That said, I've not been real impressed with his Twitter persona. As much as you can tell from social media - and really, who can tell much, (right Tyshawn?) He definately comes across as cocky - I mean he calls himself The White Mamba. If that's a swagger that shows the underlying toughness that Bill Self covets, well then bring it on. All too often, though, these high school kids wilt under the pressure of the bigger stage. We'll see...

jaybate 8 years, 3 months ago

Ground Control to Major Tongue...

Whoa, Nellie...

Bring it in for a soft landing, Joe...

Everybody needs to understand this is 4 games in 8 days.

And the chaser is the team with best chance of beating us.

This four game series should only be judged on how many games we win, not on how pretty we play.

KU stands at 3-O...that's GOOD!

KU's players are in as good of shape as they could be for this huge contest with Faylor and its Footers.

Everything was about surviving to this Faylor game without more injuries, and playing as many guys as possible, and beating the first three with as simple of game plans as possible.

Self has clearly been saving the amping and wrinkle-filled game plans for the Faylor game.

Self has clearly been keeping the scouting reports and game plans as simple as possible for the first three games, so he could load them up with a game plan for Faylor and amp them up at home.

Self knows we've got a real problem guarding their footers.

Self knows he's got to pull a rabbit out of the hat against Faylor's footers, or KU will get beaten and get beaten badly.

Drew, like everyone else knows: defend where they are strong, attack where they are weak.

Defend Where They Are Strong: Drew is very likely to throw a lot of zone at KU in order to lower KU's FG% inside--KU's greatest offensive strength.

Attack Where They Are Weak: Drew will attack EJ, because of his knees. Drew will attack Kevin, because he probably cannot handle a footer.

Self likewise has to defend where Faylor is strong.

Self has to zone the Faylor footers, at least some, and probably with a new kind of zone. A 2-3 zone with three bigs would seem the best way to double their footers.

Self has to attack Faylor with Ben for where ever Ben is will be where Faylor is weakest. The logical tactic would be to move Ben all over the floor, so he keeps showing up at unpredicatable locations on offense.

Next, someone (read Kevin and AW3) has to draw one of the footers out to the trey stripe by taking and making some treys. My hunch is that AW3 played sparingly to lull the opposing scouting to under prepare for him.

What else might Self have planned?

It would seem there is going to be more pressing in this game than any other this season. Maybe more kinds of pressing, too.

Self and the team were working 2-a-days for a reason. They were putting stuff in for THIS GAME!!!!

The only other thing Self might do is resort to his gambling jump in the passing lanes man2man that was made famous in the 2008 semifinal game against UNC.

Self could try muddying the game up, too, but that would be a huge risk with the Faylor Footers getting to play half court sets all the time, and KU having to resort to fouling with 4-5 of its big men, something Self has long alluded would be a possbility this season.

jaybate 8 years, 3 months ago

Bottom line, when a team plays two footers, it is vulnerable to a horizontal game--a game where the footers are not so much forced to chase, as forced to move side to side constantly.

KU's slide off the dots offense could be ideally suited to to force their footers into lateral movement.

It should be a true test of manhood.

Self has rested, and masked and protected this team as much as he could, but there is no getting around the fact that 4 games in 8 days is exhausting.

Unless Faylor has played 4 in 8, as KU has to, Faylor has the decided edge and ought to win.

But if Self can get those footers into a horizontal game, and if Self can create enough isolations for Ben, and if KU use all of its bigs to foul their bigs in both m2m and zones and keep the pressing up for a game, KU could and should win, assuming KU is shooting okay.

Rock Chalk!!!

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