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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

ISU coach Fred Hoiberg impressed by Elijah Johnson, says late no-call ‘didn’t go our way’

Iowa State head coach Fred Hoiberg pleads with an official during the second half on Monday, Feb. 25, 2013 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.

Iowa State head coach Fred Hoiberg pleads with an official during the second half on Monday, Feb. 25, 2013 at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.

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Kansas coach Bill Self talks after his team's 108-96 overtime victory over Iowa State on Feb. 25, 2013.

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Box score

KU-ISU

— Fred Hoiberg sat on a folding chair at the free-throw line, staring at two studio lights that resembled upside-down white umbrellas.

It was just an hour after Kansas University’s 108-96 men’s basketball victory over Iowa State, and for the first time all year, Hoiberg, the ISU coach, was recording his TV coach’s show on the Hilton Coliseum floor following a home loss.

With the camera rolling, Hoiberg said he couldn’t fault his defense late against KU. Then he talked about how KU guard Elijah Johnson appeared to increase the degree of difficulty with every shot he made late.

Johnson’s career-high 39 points ended up lifting KU, and that included a desperation dagger with 54 seconds left in overtime that put the Jayhawks ahead, 103-96.

“That was one of our better defensive possessions, I thought, of the night,” Hoiberg said, “and he drills a big one with a second on the shot clock. Not a lot you can do about that one.”

Hoiberg didn’t hesitate to give Johnson credit for his late-game heroics, saying he played “great.”

ISU guard Korie Lucious left wishing he could have done more late.

“I definitely take ownership for that, because I was the one holding him (defensively),” Lucious said. “He hit a couple of deep threes that brought them back and gave them the lead. He played good, but I think I had to step up my defense.”

ISU also left frustrated after not getting a call on KU’s final possession in regulation.

With KU trailing 90-88 with six seconds left, Johnson drove all the way to the rim and banged into ISU’s Georges Niang, who fell down with the contact.

No charge was called, and with 4.9 seconds left, Johnson was fouled during a loose-ball scrum by Niang before hitting two free throws to tie it.

“I thought Georges made a heck of a play by stepping in there and drawing contact,” Hoiberg said. “But, hey, it happens in this game. It didn’t go our way. It’s one of those things ... you move past it and try to get on to the next play. Unfortunately, we didn’t get it done in overtime.”

With 45 seconds left in regulation, Niang hit a three-pointer to push ISU’s lead to 87-82 before lifting his arms in celebration.

At the postgame news conference, Niang was asked if he thought that shot was going to seal the game.

“The way this season has gone? No,” Niang said. “But I thought we had a good chance to win it, especially at the end. But a call’s a call, and we’re men here.

“We’re going to move on. I promise you one thing: We’re going to come back even harder the next day.”

Comments

jhawks1987 1 year, 1 month ago

Watch the replay it looks like KU player is pushed on way to basket and Iowa St player stepped in and starting following back before charge so it could have been called either way and I agree something should have been called but the truth is Iowa St choked.......They had a 5 point lead with 45 secoinds to go and blew it......so live with it Iowa St fans

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FearlessJayhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

I believe a lot of the calls had to do with the pace of this game. There were a lot of questionable calls. But the pace of this game was the fastest I've seen all year. I've never seen two teams shoot so well. It's a shame somebody had to lose. If both KU and Iowa State could clone this game each time for the rest of the year, they would be seeing each other in the championship game in April.

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Dale Stringer 1 year, 1 month ago

I still think the was a missed call of EL drive. Not the charge everyone was thinking about though. I saw ISU #13's left hand hit EJ's ball arm as EJ was going up. If this was call though, I think EJ still would have hit both free throws. But this would have given ISU another second to go down court for a better final shot. I'm glad for that no-call since it made ISU hurry their shot.

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johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

Great point about Fran. Thought he loved KU until his son went to OU. Now he sees us as a competitor of his son's team. Perhaps we need him to cover games in another conference.

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cajayfan 1 year, 1 month ago

Fran's son plays for Oklahoma. I do not believe any announcer does well when their child plays for another team in the conference(even if he is a benchwarmer) or it is the college they attended. Human nature. I think Jay Bilas is the only one who manages to stay unbiased. I can't believe they are not looking at the worst mistake the refs made. Giving Kevin Withey's fourth foul. That was classic. Gotta love Kevin for the intangibles.

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johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

Let's see. Bad calls by the officials all night long. Many that go against KU- see Withey fouls and goal tending call against KU. Then you have ISU players talking (rather arguing) while putting their arms around the officials- no thought of unfair play here. Then Hoiberg gets out of sorts. If ISU coaches had noticed that Withey fouled rather than Young maybe we don't get a key rebound or wait maybe ISU wanted Withey to be on the floor. ISU had him out of defensive position all night. If all things are equal- one no call by the officials and Withey not fouling out in regulation was not why ISU lost. The Prophet outplayed ISU and the whiners can go away- read something less nice.

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jahawkdave 1 year, 1 month ago

Everyone focuses on that last no-call because it was so crucial, but like has been said before, the inaccurate goaltending call was worse than a no-call, and Withey's charge call was also worse than a no call.

To me things all even out in the end...now if they had called Niang for a block on that last play then maybe they could complain.

Anyone else notice Niang setting a moving screen and throwing his hip out on screens that where allowed throughout the game, this was an evenly terribly officiated game

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bjejayhawk69 1 year, 1 month ago

First the call at the end of regulation - it has been said before Lucious reached and grabbed well before any contact with Niang. The refs decided to no call. ESPN loves to highlight controversy so that is all everyone sees but not unlike every major news organization they fail to show the whole story. It doesn't sell well. Besides Niang already had his quota of calls - sliding on a charge call on Withey and how many old man drives where he throws up a prayer that was answered by the refs bailing him out. Plus the charge foul call on Withey was much earlier in the game and impacted his playing time. ISU still had 5 sec in regulation and OT to do something as well.

I loved the intensity of the game. Hoiberg is a class coach. The ISU fans throwing stuff on the court and guy charging Self ????? That is far more embarrassing than EJ's dunk -which was wrong and him and Self apologized. Did Hoiberg or ISU apologize for the above ????

Any way EJ was beyond amazing. Hope this gives him some confidence for the remainder or the year.

ONe more thing - BMac - I have said it since the start of Big 12 play. He has to learn to dribble left handed and be able to make individual 1 on 1 moves to have an impact in the NBA. He will get drafted on potential alone but he still has a lot of work to do and staying one more year would be extremely beneficial. And he can't disappear in road games.

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ku_foaf 1 year, 1 month ago

Iowa State fans showed atypical bad behavior:

A fan had to be restrained from confronting Bill Self Throwing plastic microphones at the players when speaking to reporters (I didn't see it, was told it happened) Booing at the end of the game

They acted like they were cheated and were owed a win since we gave one to TCU!

ISU has always been one of the better crowds in the Big 12.

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nuleafjhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

I don't care any more that we won this game.

I just want everyone on here to kiss and make up. We need to save our nit picking and name calling for Missouri.

Oh - wait....

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jrbill67 1 year, 1 month ago

How soon they forget. Did Coach Fred or the ISU fans or Fran Frischella forget about the charge on Withey when Niang had one foot on the floor and slid into Withey. That play cost KU a basket, a free throw, and a foul, when it should've been a blocking foul. The refs were bad for both teams. Get over it.

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Ksofks 1 year, 1 month ago

Don't feel too bad about the call at end of game. I studied the offensive goal tending call in super slow motion (during the second half)-- it was clearly an ISU player's hand in the net rather than K. Youngs hand. The basket should have counted. Also, rotten charge call on Withey earlier in 2nd half.

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jhawkrulz 1 year, 1 month ago

This is why I love college basketball. How many of us thought KU was out of it...again? I know that calls at the end of the game gets the press. However, the game was just amazing.

Soon if people keep complaining, we will soon have video replay for everything.

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Robert Brock 1 year, 1 month ago

Hoiberg has done a fine job turning around a lousy Iowa State program. He needs to work on the D some more if he hopes to win tough games.

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kranny 1 year, 1 month ago

To me it looked like his feet were set. We looked at it a few times but the point is moot. There were many horrible calls and no calls. The glaring issue is the point int time of the game that it happened. But ISU had 5 more minutes to win the game. ISU los t the game under the 4 minute mark when they jacked up 2 threes early in the shot clock for misses that turned into 4 pts for KU an cut the lead to 3 points with 3:33 left in the game. They couldve ran the shot clock down, drove the lane got fouled and added no pressure free throws. Horrible late game management.

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Dyrk Dugan 1 year, 1 month ago

the above tenet theme on these posts, is that ISU got screwed? had the game "stolen" from them? complete nonsense.

officials call the game...they make good calls, they make bad calls. the charge-block no call was not a bad call....could it have been called? of course. (he was falling back to avoid the contact...if he would have stayed straight, it's probably made...see Travis Releford at Okie st). but i've seen worse for sure.

exhibit A: Withey's third foul. clearly, NOT a charge...and also clearly, a block on ISU. that wiped out potential two points from us, and they hit a three on the other end. five point swing. you don't think that mattered late?

Elijah Johnson made every play possible. he's standing at the FT line with 5 seconds left, and has to hit BOTH FTs to tie the game? i mean that is clutch bball right there. all those threes he stuck, all those drives to the basket. we have to give him credit for the win....to say ISU lost it because of the refs is utter nonsense.

ISU scored 50 in the 2nd half....you can't win with that? KU is in complete control of its destiny for the 9th league title in a row.....great 500th win for Coach....Go Jayhawks!

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jessejayhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

For anyone who recorded the game. Please replay the "no call" at the end of regulation and see where Niang's feet were when contact was made. It appeared to me that he was too far under the basket (ie: inside the little white arc). If so, the no call was correct. Also the foul that was called was legitimate cause Niang definitely grabbed EJ's arm.

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KansasComet 1 year, 1 month ago

Actorman,

If you have a chance to watch the game again, it's worth it. The officiating was not the best, but it went both ways. 5 count em, 5 calls against KU in the final minute of overtime, in a 30 second period. A foul called against Young, Withey, and EJ. A five second call on Releford and travel on Withey, did I mention within a 30 second period? I have never seen anything like it in my life. It was a fight to the finish and we never gave up. Go Jayhawks!

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SStock1083 1 year, 1 month ago

Blown call or not, ISU had 5 more minutes to seal the victory and they choked.

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justinryman 1 year, 1 month ago

If they want to make a deal out of a bad cal Jeff I mean Kevins foul was called correctly, the reason it was given to the wrong player (sure it helped the KY put up his hand) but the refs were not in position. So they couldn't see it correctly.

Jeff's first foul. Jeff's 2nd charge. Jeff's foul when he was next to a player. The goaltending call. The reach in on EJ. All of their moving screens and only one gets called, we were called for two.

Yeah it's a wash on the bad calls. Time to get over it. No ref will ever call a perfect game. No coach will coach a perfect game and no player will play the perfect game. So mistakes happen. Time to move on.

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thmdmph 1 year, 1 month ago

I wish our posts would move on from the excessive calls and no calls and comments and celebrates the amazing performances of the players and the coaching. Calls go both ways in games and in a season. It all averages out. I personally glad a call finally went our way when it counts, especial on somebody else's court. Doesn't happen much, so enjoy it.

Now, EJ was just surreal last night. What a performance by Releford. He has been amazing all year on both ends of the court. Mac needs to wake up. I felt this even at his peak, but Ben definitely needs to stay another year. If he leaves early, he's going to be another mediocre Jayhawk that leave too early to the NBA. He has so many weakness, biggest of which is he cannot create his own shots. His movements away from the ball is pretty bad. Unfortunately, his strength is not to create his own shots, but to catch and shoot.

This game showed lots and lots of character and decision making that if I was Self, I'd be so proud. KY's instinctive reaction to Jeff's late game foul by taking responsibility for it. EJ's alertness to the shot clock. Releford's senior leadership. EJ's maturity in the post-game interviews.

It's incredible that this season, we've had so many players who've had games of their lives. Tonight, EJ. Jeff, Ben, Travis, and Naadir have been in the zone as well. Next up is Perry Ellis.

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Jim Stauffer 1 year, 1 month ago

Now everyone is on the bandwagon to make calls the same at end game situations as before.

That is because for years the media and fans have screamed, "let the players decide the game." Now they see the results and it is ugly and they want to take it back.

It should never have been that way. They should always call the game the same at the end as at the beginning.

By the way, I also agree it was a charge.

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Phoggie_Thinking 1 year, 1 month ago

Is Fran's boy on the OSU roster? Making it a good thing if KU lost and OSU then would be tied for the conference lead. I don't think it is intentional, but I think he was announcing a bit like a "fan" instead of a commentator. The call could have been made, but really it is not made a lot of the time. The whole thing is meaningless UNLESS SOMEBODY MAKES THE SHOTS. PS the somebody has a name: Elijah.

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John Mueller 1 year, 1 month ago

As my oooold pawt-nah Bill Grigsby would have said.....

Be-U-ti-ful performance by Elijah Johnson.

Period, full stop.

The only thing that is tainted is Fran Fraschilla. He is a bitch.

Cannot listen to the idiot. Cannot.

And, he should never be allowed to call his kids game, not that his kid ever plays.....

ESPN needs to let him go.

Btw, no satellite. Snowing too hard. No Bob Davis, even the radio signal failed in the snow.

Had to FaceTime Tucson AZ and have the cousin hold his iPhone to the tv to watch the OT.

I will never forget it.

I didn't realize it was Hoibergs kid. My apologies in arrears for calling the kid a grommet.

Hey, I cried when Chambliss hit that homer too. It's ok kid.

Just go to Kansas when u grow up, that yellow is hard on the eyes anyway....

Unbelievable performance, Elijah. Unbelievable! RCJH, indeed!

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jayhawkinATL 1 year, 1 month ago

It's been said many times before...it's hard to hate Hoiberg. Classy at the bitter end!

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fansincewilt 1 year, 1 month ago

Will Self's 500th win fade in memory? I doubt it. This one will stand out for a long time to come. Regardless how this team ends, this game will be remembered.

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Robert Murphy 1 year, 1 month ago

The late no call was a break for Iowa State as the reply clearly shows the Iowa State player was not set and it should have been a blocking foul. Calling the other foul only made up for this mistake on the officials part and so justice prevailed.

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Robert Murphy 1 year, 1 month ago

Something we must remember with Johnson is that he started this season after knee surgery and he was not fully healed. He was protective of his health and this showed in his style of play. It would not have been good for him to play with abandon. It is a sacrifice on the players bodies even to play this modern game with the increasing violence. EJ was smart enough to know it is a long season and by playing with some caution it was his best hope of completing it.

Several prior years saw our players hurt by the end of the year. I think of Sharron Collins in particular but it was also true of Heinrich and Haas and I think it cost their teams dearly even national titles. Flying into the paint sometimes is asking for trouble and EJ was smart enough not to do it early in the season and it has resulted in his looking good for what we hope will be a successful run to the finish.

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Michael Sillman 1 year, 1 month ago

An awful lot is being made of the no call at the end of regulation but in my view the no call went both ways in that sequence.

If you watch the early part of Johnson's drive to the hoop before he collided with Niang, there is an awful lot of body contact by the ISU guard.

I was yelling foul well before the impact with Niang but we didn't get the call.

Earlier in the game that contact would have been called a foul and would have put Johnson at the free throw line anyway.

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Cora Smith 1 year, 1 month ago

Subpar nite for the offiiating crew. I'm sure they will get letters of reprimand for not fouling out Withey and not making a call at the end of regulation. However, I think if you analyze the video you will find that bad calls went both ways. I am proud that the Jayhawks always found a way to answer and stood tall when they could have easily folded. I wrote them off after the Iowa State center hit that three near the end of regulation. Just happy that a player who did not give up, stood up, and took ownership.

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mgonzo182 1 year, 1 month ago

The officiating was very poor both ways. It was a great game. Withey had 2 phantom cals against him. The first was down right horrible (replayed over and over on sports center). Then how the heck young got the foul over him late was bad.

Both teams got jobbed throughout. ISU had there chances but they themselves left the door open.

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kansaspike 1 year, 1 month ago

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Ross Hartley 1 year, 1 month ago

Two points is two points whenever they come. The call on Withey for a charge was just as bad.

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