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Sunday, February 17, 2013

Keegan

Opinion: KU makes it hard for recruit Julius Randle to say no

Kansas recruit Julius Randle sits behind the Kansas bench during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 16, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas recruit Julius Randle sits behind the Kansas bench during the first half on Saturday, Feb. 16, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Julius Randle, ranked second by Rivals behind only Andrew Wiggins in the Class of 2013 among high school basketball players, had a seat behind the Kansas University bench Saturday night. He was treated to an evening that highlighted the past and reminded the audience that the present, somehow, never strays far from the glorious days of yesteryear.

Freed from a funk that included a three-game losing streak, Kansas is back to doing what it usually does under Bill Self now, Roy Williams and Larry Brown before him. In a word, dominating.

Randle watched Kansas destroy Texas, 73-47, one of the other schools on his short list, along with Florida, Kentucky, North Carolina State and Oklahoma.

Not only that, he watched it sitting among seven active NBA players who played their home games in front of adoring capacity crowds, sometimes including fans who were in the building in the morning watching the ESPN “GameDay” crew do its thing, as was the case Saturday.

Mario Chalmers, Nick Collison, Xavier Henry, Marcus and Markieff Morris, Thomas Robinson and Tyshawn Taylor all sat near Randle.

Well before tipoff, students chanted “We want Randle! We want Randle!” They didn’t mean team orthopedist Dr. Jeff Randall, who happened to be strolling past at that moment. Their knees were fine, and so were their voices. They used them to speak from the heart. They want Randle, and they made sure he knew how much they want him.

Randle also was treated to a slice of how Kansas treats its stars from the past when he witnessed the unfurling of Chalmers’ No. 15 jersey, stationed high on the south wall between those of Wayne Simien (23) and Max Falkenstien (60), both of whom also were in attendance.

Kansas had Texas doubled up, 70-35, late in the game, and the recruiting chant again erupted: “We want Randle! We want Randle!” Sitting next to his mother and wearing a red sweatshirt and huge grin, Randle thanked the students with a wave. They responded with another chant: “Come to Kansas! Come to Kansas!”

The celebrity list on this electric evening extended beyond those who made their names playing basketball. PGA Tour pro Gary Woodland, who drives a golf ball the way Ben McLemore dunks a basketball, took in the game. Kathleen Sebelius, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services since 2009 and Governor of Kansas from 2003 to 2008, looked to be having a blast.

Randle and the rest of the crowd caught a glimpse of how much fun the Kansas players have in the locker room, doing the Harlem Shake, captured by a video on which McLemore also looks the most talented. (“With the first pick of the 2013 NBA Draft ... select Ben McLemore.")

After the blowout, Elijah Johnson shared that when he was in the throes of the worst slump of his career he received encouraging text messages from former stars who let him know they had been there, done that, a once-a-teammate-always-a-teammate reminder that surely would appeal to any recruit pondering a college choice.

A 6-foot-9, 240-pound forward, Randle totaled 19 points and 10 rebounds Friday night for Prestwood Christian in Plano, Texas, in his season debut after missing most of the season because of a foot injury.

If Randle doesn’t choose Kansas, it won’t be for lack of effort on the part of anyone emotionally invested in the program. He would be joining a recruiting class ranked second without him. Small guards Conner Frankamp and Frank Mason, wings Wayne Selden and Brannen Greene and 7-foot center Joel Embiid make up a class that has everything but a power forward.

Randle certainly couldn’t hurt his NBA Draft portfolio by learning to play the sort of team defense KU played in harassing Texas into a .218 overall shooting percentage and a .095 three-point mark on a night the Longhorns had shot-clock violations on back-to-back possessions. And as McLemore showed in executing a 360-degree dunk, Randle also would be coming to a place where freedom of expression isn’t discouraged.

Wiggins, a 6-7, 190-pound forward, has KU on his list, along with Kentucky, North Carolina and Florida State.

It might be difficult to pry Wiggins from Florida State, reportedly the favorite because his parents both starred in their sports as Seminoles. Guard Mitchell Wiggins played in the NBA. Marita Payne-Wiggins ran the 400 meters for Florida State and in the Olympics for Canada.

After the show he witnessed Saturday, it’s difficult to imagine Randle saying no to Kansas. Think about it: If you were in his sneakers, could you say no?

Comments

William Blake 1 year, 8 months ago

Two words should be all it takes to bring Julius to Lawrence...

Rock Chalk?

Close... but let's talk...

HIGH - LOW!

Someone has to show him the offense we ran with TRob and the Twins. Yes, Julius, that could be you! Become the centerpiece of an offense built for your aggressive style of ball!

Julius is built perfectly for the high-low, and the high-low is built perfectly for Julius!

...and never hurts to throw in a Rock Chalk!

jhox 1 year, 8 months ago

From what I've seen of Randle he is capable of having the kind of year, as a freshman, that Thomas Robinson had as a junior. I'm confident he's thinking one and done, and what better way to achieve that than play in the same offense that made TRob the best power forward in the country?

Bill Self could make this young man a first team All American as a freshman. We're going to have great guards next year. Guys who can get in the paint and guys who can stretch the defense and consistently knock down 3's to help uncongest the paint. Randle represents the missing piece of the puzzle. It's as though this was fate. I hope he recognizes that.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

IDEAL to have the Morris's, T.Rob, Simien, Aldrich, Collison & Withey (still playing) there to tell the tale of being a big man at KU for Randle.

kcmojayhawker 1 year, 8 months ago

No doubt, the twins and T-rob are our best examples of how Randle could flourish in the offense. With the exception being, there are no apparent roadblocks to immediate playing time like in the case of the examples. There are some talented recruits on board for next year, none with the potential impact Julius would bring. If Randle says no, next years team may resemble the one you seen last night-Texas, young but a few years away from making any noise. My gut tells me NCState will be tough to beat for Randle. Rock Chalk!

Mike Bratisax 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't think a Bill Self team would ever look like the team at Texas. HCBS has always brought out the best from his players and this isn't the first time he has had a large turnover of players.

Rick Barnes, on the other hand, has wasted the talent of his players as much as any coach in Division I basketball.

Great editorial but I thought you could have stated the following in a better manner: "He would be joining a recruiting class ranked second without him. Small guards Conner Frankamp and Frank Mason, wings Wayne Selden and Brannen Greene and 7-foot center Joel Embiid make up a class that has everything but a power forward". Not sure I would have used "small guards" to describe next year's incoming guards even if technically correct.

sleepy33 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd like to put Scott Drew in second place on the list of coaches who have wasted more talent in D1 than anybody.

Jack Wilson 1 year, 8 months ago

drgnslayer .. Agree .. high-low. Feed the post. There is simply no better system for Randle. A big need for a go-to guy down low. It seems easy.

"Randle represents the missing piece of the puzzle" -- jhox nailed that. Perhaps the "needed" piece of the puzzle.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Huh? Why wouldn't there be immediate playing time for us next season?

I could see that argument used against Kentucky, but it's not like Withey's going to be there next season.

texashawk10 1 year, 8 months ago

Randle plays 25+ minutes a game easily and if he's good at staying out of foul trouble he'll play 30+ minutes a game.

Robert Murphy 1 year, 8 months ago

If Ellis doesn't wake up he'll be lucky to start next year or any year thereafter.

Manginosspeedo 1 year, 8 months ago

1st time I have been the 1st. Holding a spot for you and you saw the future and the past and it is bright.

Sarah Carr 1 year, 8 months ago

Great article by Keegan. Wonder if Julius and his parents will pick up a copy of the JW Sunday morning before they leave Lawrence?

Michael Luby 1 year, 8 months ago

In this years field of teams, there is no clear front runner for the National Title. KU has every bit the chance that the Michigans, Indianas, Dukes, Miami's have to win it all. If KU doesnt win it all this year, they absolutely will contend for the title next year. If Randle comes to Larry town, permanent marker in KU for a final four run next year as well.

melrank 1 year, 8 months ago

I'm assuming the "we" you're referring to isn't most of "us" on this board as any rational observer not caught up in the ESPN hype of Kentucky was not expecting this year's version of one-and-done to be a serious FF threat.

Jack Wilson 1 year, 8 months ago

Right, don't know too many that wrote in Kentucky this season.

Next season? Maybe so.

bradh 1 year, 8 months ago

We lose all 5 starters this year, unless some players really step up next year it will be tough to be playing for a NC next year. Who's going to play where? We're going to be relying on people who can't get on the court much now. Most of the players make pretty good strides during the offseason, so we might be all right. I think we'll be fine at guard, but only Tharpe is getting much playing time now. The forwards now on the team will have to step up their games considerably. The center position concerns me the most..

Mike Barnhart 1 year, 8 months ago

Umm... You must be new here. We reload, baby!

Robert Murphy 1 year, 8 months ago

Kansas is not a contender for a national title this year nor will they be next year. Not good enough this year. Too young next year.

Waylon Cook 1 year, 8 months ago

Have you watched college hoops this year?

Joseph Bullock 1 year, 8 months ago

Bens 360 was the top play on sports centers top 10! Rock Chalk, Baby!

Alohahawk 1 year, 8 months ago

Loved the 360, when Ben did it, and when I watched the ESPN top Ten. When they hadn't shown him by the #5 in the countdown, I sort of knew he'd get the #1 spot. Except for the half-court heave which went in as #10 (I think it was #10, and don't remember who shot it), there really wasn't any competition for #1.

mgonzo182 1 year, 8 months ago

You never know what goes through the minds of these recruits. We had some good recruiting talent in for the Mizzou game last year. Amazing atmosphere. How many of them jumped on board? I think they all chose elsewhere.

Here is hoping Randle was impressed. Would love seeing him play at AFH.

JayDocMD 1 year, 8 months ago

The bright lights aren't for everybody. Some players, even blue-chippers, prefer to play in front of dull, half-full arenas like Pauly Pavilion, "Paige" Arena and whatever TX calls its basketball library. Maybe they feel more at home in the peace and quiet of an AAU-like gym? Maybe, deep down, they know they don't have the mental toughness to handle the pressure that comes with that environment?

Either way, if I'm not mistaken, two of those guys at the Mizzery game in Allen last year DO have what it takes: Wayne Selden and Connor Frankamp. Rock Chalk fellas.

Steve Quatrocky 1 year, 8 months ago

If after experiencing the history and emotion of KU Basketball yesterday, he doesnt commit to KU, we didnt want him anyway. Everyone needs to remember that Bill doesnt promise starting jobs to the top recruits like other programs do, see Baylor or Kentucky for examples.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Yeah, Shabazz not going w/ KU after being at taht game surprised me, BUT he would've taken Travis's spot so.......

Robert Brock 1 year, 8 months ago

I doubt that Peters ever plays basketball again. I think he is done.

Jack Wilson 1 year, 8 months ago

I fully expect to see Peters playing at another D-1 next fall (eligible after 1st semester). Likely in Texas .. SMU, Houston, Rice.

I got blasted a bit for suggesting the transfer had a little to do with the competition (and for being "insenstitive") -- meaning, he could have stayed here, redshirted, and "gotten healthy", and been ready to go next fall. But we had Ellis, Lucas, Traylor, Embiid, and recruiting other big guys (Randle). Hurdles to overcome after sitting out were pretty difficult.

My suggestion will be proven completely wrong if he's not playing at a D-1 next season.

But as others suggested, he may have just wanted to be at home, with his family, while recuperating. That makes sense too.

AsadZ 1 year, 8 months ago

I won't be surprised if he lands in Tulsa. That will be a very good alternative for Peters.

Mike Bratisax 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't know...going to Collin College and not being recruited makes me think he has played his last game already.

Would be happy to be wrong.

Brianna Zaleski 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't know, I thought he looked pretty bored when they were showing him on tv. The pic above also shows him (and his mom) seemingly uninterested. Hopefully this was taken during a lull in the game or something like that because if not, his body language tells me we are out of the running

Steve Quatrocky 1 year, 8 months ago

That and the Red Shirt with a logo similiar to a T he wore to the game, a KU home game, wasnt a good sign either. If he cant appreciate all that is KU Basketball, we dont want him, there are no promises of a starting spot for him here, he has to compete and quite frankly, with the recruiting class we have for next year, plus the second year improvement for redshirted Lucas,Traylor and Ellis, he may not get many minutes.

lothario64118 1 year, 8 months ago

That "T" is not for Texas. It's the symbol for Lebron James. Nothing more. Unless The Lebron and Calipari/UK have something to do with each other. Hmmmmm????

Alex Peekeaton 1 year, 8 months ago

Randle will be starting and playing major minutes at every one of his schools on his final list - Lucas, Traylor, or Ellis aren't in the same league as Randle.

LAJayhawk 1 year, 8 months ago

If Randle comes to KU, he will be a starter. Absolutely no doubt about that.

Mark Lindrud 1 year, 8 months ago

If Randle comes we could have a few options in the starting lineup assuming he is that good once he comes onto campus. SF Selden PF Ellis/Randle C Randle/Lucas SG White PG Tharpe

Just a thought, but can always play him at the Center spot, it's not like guys don't switch spots to wear they belong in the pros anyway. I can totally see up redshirting Embiid and we would have Lucas ready for big minutes off the bench, but if Randle did start at the PF spot he can slide over at the C spot also so that Traylor can play more at the PF spot. We would have more options down low to improve our high/low game.

akgjenkintown 1 year, 8 months ago

He looked bored the whole game. Never seemed to embrace the crowd, the past KU stars, the overall atmosphere. Either he is very low key or has zero interest in coming to KU. I hope the former.

RockChalk26 1 year, 8 months ago

Pancakes, I wanted him to roll out a griddle and start making pancakes.

Steve Gantz 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd be more excited about the prospect of having him if he hadn't indicated in a Yahoo article the other day he wishes they didn't have to go to college (or go play a year somewhere else) to play pro ball. I don't like the idea of KU becoming a AOD Holiday Inn Express for kids.

jhox 1 year, 8 months ago

To me, it depends on the quality of the one and done guy. Self has shown that he's not like Slick Cal. He recognizes the importance of mixing talented young guys with seasoned upper classmen. If you can pick up a top 5 guy for a year, you need to do it. In this case he's the missing piece to an otherwise complete puzzle. The right guy in the right place, at the right time. I hope he realizes that.

brooksmd 1 year, 8 months ago

Well one in a class is ok, but not a team full like Kenstinky. Wonder how the big blue fans will handle playing for the NIT championship against UNC?

kranny 1 year, 8 months ago

I hope he comes to KU, gets a national championship, goes 1-5 in the draft, and makes a lot of money doing what he loves to do in the greatest country on Earth. As long as we're wishing.....

bennybob 1 year, 8 months ago

Randle would be the ideal band-aid to bring in for a year and cover up the recruiting gap we've had the last few seasons.

We just need to make it through next season, '14-'15 should have a Junior Ellis and Sophmore Embiid which would put the front court talent level back in the elite range it belongs

'13-'14 however currently looks like the frontcourt is going to be sub-par. Randle will fix that.

That said, I'm not holding my breath

finestack 1 year, 8 months ago

I agree with kugrad83 about the shirts and logo. For a OAD that contract alignment means more than any of us probably know.

Jack Wilson 1 year, 8 months ago

Saw that, thought that, didn't post that. But that is interesting.

Steve Corder 1 year, 8 months ago

Yeah, the Allen Field House mistique, history, passion, Bill Self, program success that is off-the-charts would lure any of us. BUT these highly ranked kids want to play and score and not be known for defensive prowess by the time they jump to the NBA. McLemore is not being mentioned as a possible #1 because he's learned defense under KU's Bill Self.

Look at McLemore's 13 points and how he got them. then look at Duke's Curry's shots from all over the court, many with a player in his face.

KU will get talent enough to be in the national title hunt every year, with or without a Wiggins or a Randle. Randle's choice will tell us what kind of kid he is and just what really "floats his boat".

jhawk613 1 year, 8 months ago

I'm so sick of these responses. So if a kid doesn't choose KU then he's a thug, punk, chump, etc.

KU has 13 scholarships spread out over 4 years. We can't sign 300 recruits every year. I'm presuming you think Kevin Durant was a punk kid because he didn't choose KU. You're a joke.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

A majority of those at Late Night jumped on board - I think B.Greene, Frankamp, Selden (was not yet committed at that time), Embiid (sounded overwhelmed & sounded just about ready then but said he felt obligated to at least follow through on his 2 or 3 other visits).....and they DID seem to enjoy it and were smiling and laughing it up with each other.

monkeehawkSL8 1 year, 8 months ago

I agree with everyone. In other words there is no idea whats going on in the mind of young MR. Randle. With that said, the closest I have come to getting to "read" people is doing job interviews and sadly, working with troubled couples and individuals.

If the picture that heads this story is all there was to go on, the Randle family does not appear to be the least bit interested in anything KANSAS.

No matter who its been in history in KU basketball. The one thing that each one of the "greats" understand is that @ no time does the individual become greater than the Tradition, History and Team concept of Jayhawk basketball. The frown's on the faces of the family tell it all. I am often wrong. If I am my sincere apologize's to the Randle's.

Ben Kane 1 year, 8 months ago

It's fun to look at the future but sometimes this recruiting talk makes me sick. Sure, I'd love to have Randle, we all would. However if we think back to just this past offseason, everyone was convinced we would be sub-par this year. we had no real point guard, Withey had never been the go-to inside guy, KY wasn't really a starter, T-Rel was just a glue guy...

whatever happens in the recruiting game, my faith and belief lies with coach. There is no one else i'd rather have at our helm and representing our university.

championhawks 1 year, 8 months ago

It isn't the NCAA making the 1 and done rule, it's the NBA. Their rule is a player must be 19 years old and at least 1 year removed from their high school graduating class.

While it is a slap in the face to the college game, the NCAA, unfortunately, doesn't have much say in the matter.

JayhawkRock78 1 year, 8 months ago

I have high school kids in two AAU clubs, soccer & basketball and the quality of play is in club ball is so much better than high school teams. It was a surprise to me. The club tourneys is where the coaches/scouts go and watch talent vs talent. There were 42 colleges represented at our last tourney and the season is just starting.

sleepy33 1 year, 8 months ago

That is the way I remember it, too, from the hazy days of my high school. Makes sense, if you think about it, since they are collecting the best kids from multiple schools.

jhox 1 year, 8 months ago

This rule isn't about the NCAA. That's an NBA rule put in place so they don't waste draft choices. Until a guy plays college ball against guys of similar size and quickness, and proves they're elite, it's hard to be sure if they have what it takes to play in the league or not. There are exceptions like LeBron or a Kevin Garnett. Guys like that are low risk, but they don't come around every day, let alone every year.

I suspect Cali-cheat is probably the only person connected with the NCAA, in any capacity, who likes the one and done format.

Ben Kane 1 year, 8 months ago

actually it had nothing to do with wasting picks it had to do with sending scouts all over the country to watch high school games and even then the high school games didn't provide a good competition level to make important evaluations. by eliminating that they get at least one year to see how they perform on the college level which also helps them narrow in on a kid's upside. .

jhox 1 year, 8 months ago

That's my point. They were drafting unworthy guys and throwing away picks.

Joseph Bullock 1 year, 8 months ago

actually, it was part NBA & part NCAA, (including coaches), kind of behind the scenes. there were so many kids who were getting BS from agents, family, and friends, telling them they were too good for college, and that they are can't miss NBA players, and they made the jump, but never made a roster. Also, coaches do recruit all over the Country, at high school games, but that is more so to get to know the kids and their family better, and the high school coach, who they will be dealing with, but in reality, where coaches really go to watch kids, and see how good they are, is on the AAU circuit, and in big time tournaments, with big time teams.

oldalum 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd hesitate to make a judgment based on this one picture. It could have been taken during a time out. You can't see the faces of the people behind them, but they aren't jumping up and down.

switzer127 1 year, 8 months ago

Take another look at the photo. Does Julius looked excited? Based on his body language and facial expressions in the shots I saw of him I am not expecting Julius to choose KU.

phins13td 1 year, 8 months ago

I agree. I highly doubt Randle will pick KU and that is fine with me. No one knows how these recruits make decisions. Just when it appears the obvious seems likely to happen, the obvious isn't so obvious.

Alex Peekeaton 1 year, 8 months ago

Listening to what Julius Randle has said over the past 6 months and after reading the various posts to his USA Today blog, the recruitment of Randle comes down to which coach sells him the following:

1.) Offensive Scheme - Julius wants to play a hybrid #3 & #4. I don't see him choosing a school that will try to make him a #5. NC State made some serious inroads in this area.

2,) Win a National Championship - Randle is a 1 & done and has stated he wants a ring.

3.) Coach - Randle has often mentioned that he must trust the coach. I think all remaining schools left on his list pass this test.

Julius will more than likely be starting next year at any of the schools left on his list, so I don't think playing time is huge factor. Nobody knows who is leading, who is behind, etc. except Julius. When it comes to a decision by a 18 year old, all I can say is expect the unexpected.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd say given the 1.-3. criteria you gave and emphasis on 3. - Randle'll probably end up going to Florida.

jayhawkinATL 1 year, 8 months ago

Does anyone else think that UK has over-recruited??? I'm sure that they don't have as many OADs on their roster as they originally thought. I'm thinking Cal is going to have "discussions" with several players to "help" them decide what's best for their futures.

dfybaby21 1 year, 8 months ago

Sort of the way Bill Self has done with non-OAD's over the years? It's called upgrading your talent, and it happens at every school that wants to get better. The list of players that Bill Self has had "discussions" with to "help" them decide what's best for their futures is not short, except they are usually the result of recruiting misses and not the result of over-recruiting.

jayhawkinATL 1 year, 8 months ago

I hear ya. Was just thinking it may eventually start to impact Cal's ability to land so many potential OADs every year.

Casey Gee 1 year, 8 months ago

This picture makes him look kind of like a similar picture of Shabaaz Muhammad last year. On the other hand, Tony Parker looked like he was having a great time and tweeted about how much fun he had. I just don't think you can tell what a recruit is thinking based on how excited they look. They just won't get as excited or participate in the atmosphere as much until they finally commit to one school.

Justin Daniel 1 year, 8 months ago

I'll be shocked if we add anyone to our current recruiting class. The only thing that might happen is for us to land a 5th year senior, power forward, or a transfer. Whatever happened to Luke Cothron? He seemed very similar in style to Jeff Graves and would have been a great compliment to Withey.

Annette Lee 1 year, 8 months ago

The Jayhawks need this kid. However my question is... can he be coached? Plus he will be a Freshman. I watched him play in the fall and he got schooled by a kid not rated as high. I just think that he could eventually beat Perry out at the 4 but is he willing to play defense to get on the floor?

Andrew Moore 1 year, 8 months ago

Randle would beat Perry out the second he chooses KU... Instant upgrade at the position. Sorry, but Perry isn't there yet

Texas_Hawk 1 year, 8 months ago

Come on guys. Let's not base the college future of a all star recruit based on one picture or on 5 seconds of TV time. I think what probably happened is one of his friends texted him about being on TV and that what we saw. As far as the photograph maybe the photographer could have done a better job. With saying that I am a sports photographer for a local paper in Plano, TX and last year photographed alot of Zack and Julius. I have not had an opportunity this year to photograph Julius except for one game because of his injury. However since he is back on the court I will photograph him Friday night in a playoff game. I am also a crazy KU fan who grew up in KCK and Overland Park and happen to live in TX. What I have not seen mentioned on this blog is how Julius dominated this past summer on the Olympic USA 18 and under team. As you all know the USA team attracts the best of the best. Of the 12 players on the team Julius was one of the youngest. 10 had finished their senior year and Julius had just finished his junior year. However, he was the leading scorer, rebounder and shot blocker on the team. And 4 other players played more minutes than Julius. Billy Donavan, head coach of Florida, was the USA coach and of course he is recruiting Julius and was in Plano recently to watch him work out. I hope KU gets Julius. Two years ago I told his mother that Julius should come to KU for one reason. I told her that Danny Manning would help take him to the next level. Of course I can't say that now. I hope he decides to play ball at KU. Whatever school gets him they will be getting a great basketball player who does bring any baggage with him. Go Hawks!!

JayhawkRock78 1 year, 8 months ago

Texas, I'm another kid who grew up in OP and lives in Texas, but Houston. I am thankful for ESPN coverage of KU!

As for club play, I think we hold our own in club bball here but you seem to kick butt in club soccer. You are right about watching the club ball. That is where the blue chips match up.

Benjamin Piehler 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd never turn a kid away, but this gentlemen doesn't really seem like a KU recruit.

What I really want is one more year of BMac!

jaybate 1 year, 8 months ago

There are three persons in that photo. Nick Krug had an entire game to shoot them; this was the image of them he and the editors selected. The image communicates a lot, because all three appear unresolved in different ways. Mother Randle looks pained with having to reconsider KU, like she thinks the preference for UK they had all arrived at is now called into question and she wishes it weren't. Father Randle appears shocked at the blow out, and also uneasy about having to consider a school where Peters washed out and Perry Ellis looks lost. Both parents want their son in the pros, rather than risking a year of injury, but see that KU may make the most sense, even though Self has a reputation for stringing 5 star players out several years and making them play injured. Julius looks like he is cool with waiting to decide.

monkeehawkSL8 1 year, 8 months ago

jaybate, Zach washed out? Did Julius play football last fall and that's the reason for his injury? Maybe what their all considering is "where's jaybate and our we going to get to the bate cave and ride in the bate mobile?"

1jhawk2 1 year, 8 months ago

Just searched Julius Randle on twitter and saw comments that he gave NC State a verbal. Anybody else find anything related to comments?

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

No! Saw twitter comments saying he was just this AM leaving Kansas.

milehighhawk 1 year, 8 months ago

Here's him smiling: http://twitter.com/JayhawkSlant/status/303225431249805312/photo/1

I wouldn't be too quick to judge a kid by his demeanor during a split-second of a 30-point blow-out....but when we don't have info, it's always fun to speculate.

Freedman Moor 1 year, 8 months ago

Here's my question: Was WWW also at the game? I'm sure he's lurking somewhere with his bag-o-cash. Calipari has a grudge against KU for choosing Self and summarily dismissing him. So you can bet your ask that Wes spends as much time bad mouthing KU as he does buying recruits for UK. So as long as he and Cal are bending eachother over, common sense won't be enough to lure athletes like Randle.

Sad to say.

GabrielMichael 1 year, 8 months ago

Hey guys, take it easy. His Mother said KU has the best fans she's seen. We are in this thing... Have a little faith.

Glenn Moore Jr 1 year, 8 months ago

i was reading this and looking at the recruiting class for next year call me crazy but this could be ku's starting 5 next year!!!!

Sally Presson 1 year, 8 months ago

Julius, you've got to come to KU, no where in the United States is a better place for you. You'll have the best coach & coaching staff, the best fans who will love you the entire time you are here, the best atmosphere game after game, and your Mom will love the family environment KU provides for the players. You will be top dog and go on to greater things if you come to KU, just look at the past players who were with you on Saturday night, and there are more who couldn't be there--Paul Pierce, Drew Gooden, Kirk Heinrich, the list goes on & on. Come to Kansas, you won't regret it!!!

Rock Chalk

Kent Noble 1 year, 8 months ago

Just remember one thing. Coach Calipari hasn't showed up yet at Julius Randles house with that recruiting brief case full of cash. Don't get your hopes up yet Kansas Fans, Coach Cal is real good about stealing recruits away from other schools. Just ask Mark Turgeon! He lost the twins from Texas right there at the end. They were leaning towards Maryland and all the sudden they were pursuaded by Coach Cal and chose UK instead. We all know what's going on, coach Cal will get caught one of these days. You hide and watch it will happen!

Chase Topliff 1 year, 8 months ago

His best friend, Rodney Purvis, plays for NC State. Julius was tweeting a few times during his trip to NC State. The only tweet he made about KU was on Friday night and said something about having an early flight to KU.

He either isn't interested or he was so engaged in the weekend activities that he didn't take the time to tweet.

NC State is probably the front runner.

Having said that, the kid could do some major damage in the high-low offense if he came here. Can't wait until April!!!

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

I saw one this morning where he said JUST THEN finally leaving KU. Would follow with more details later.

I would think that might mean they were giving KU a real chance. - maybe looked around campus, Lawrence, itself, etc.

Maybe not "great" news, but I would say that it's probably more "encouraging", then "discouraging".

milehighhawk 1 year, 8 months ago

I also saw someone on Twitter this AM who claimed to see Self & Randle at breakfast. No photographic evidence was provided, but interesting to hear you mention that he didn't leave 'til today (at lends credence to the tweet).

Yonatan Negash 1 year, 8 months ago

As much as I would love to see us land Randle, it's highly unlikely. I see him teaming up with Andrew Harrison at Kentucky.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't know that he'd start there. Most UK recruits don't waste time looking at other schools if they're truly convinced by Cal. I think he may well not go to KU but I think the worry is N.C. St. or UF....NOT UK.

***In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he did one of those "trimmed his list" moves and kept us, N.C. State & UF.

***I bet you some of the looks of disappointment are that they (the parents) would probably have preferred that UT be the direction, but may have conceded that's not the way to go & they're realizing it. Worst-case scenario, I think we're 4th in the running & ahead of OU & UT.

It's too bad things couldn't've been moved back a year. A Randle visit when T.Rob was schooling Mizzou while not effective in recruiting the SG/SF Muhammad, would probably have been PERFECT in recruiting Randle. :)

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Julius Randle‏@J30_RANDLE

Headed home !! Time to focus on getting state now

This was posted at ~ 10:30 CST on 2/18/2013....so NO, whoever it was who said that - he did NOT commit to N.C.State via Twitter.

DWINOP 1 year, 8 months ago

Yes, I'm quite certain that Randle was wowed by the presence of Gary Woodland and Kathleen Sebelius at the game.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Yep, for that Texas Tech game we should see if we could get Olivia Wilde a seat next to Wiggins, huh? :)

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Don' t know if others read my stuff on the M.Smart / Bill Self backflip article.

But in essence, on Rivals.com was a spiel / interview Randle had w/ Eric Bossi there where they went over how Randle would fit into KU if he were to come there.

All sounded good.

BUT then ended the artice with, "In the end I'll go where I'm happy and having fun."

That woudl seem to point BIG TIME to him likely committing to N.C. State (due to his friend Purvis) OR maybe even UK (had fun in getting to meet Jay-Z, Beyonce, etc.).....and not so much to us or UF who I think are the other two in serious consideration.

I think before the process it might've been this way in his mind:

1) UK, 2) UT, 3) UF, 4) KU, 5) NCSU, 6) OU

And in the end I think it ended up this way:

1) NCSU, 2) UK, 3) KU, 4) UF, 5) (tie) UT & OU

I seriously think he was MAINLY thinking of UK, UT or N.C. State this whole time. I think he only gave Florid a shot because of having played for Donovan. He gave KU a shot because he said he's been there several times before and was intrigued. Not sure why he bothered to keep OU on his list.....someone said it was some sort of family or coach or what have you favor. I think he wanted Texas to be better than they are and would've SERIOUSLY considered there if they were.

**Having said all that I think his Mom was probably more of the opinion of:

1) KU, 2) UT, 3) OU, 4) UF, 5) (tie) UK or NCSU....the two that I think Julius is most wanting to go to. :) LOL

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Let me see if this works - here's his quote:

"I know the pros and cons of every school, and I think they've all done a good job of selling themselves to me. Now I have to look at where I'll have the most fun, where I'll be happiest."

Sorry, but that doesn't seem to bode well for KU in my book.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

With regards to Wiggins......something tells me that the non-UK / FSU team that he could end up with is UNC.

Would be pretty funny if Randle's at N.C. State, while Wiggins is at UNC & Parker's at Duke.

Kevin Huffman 1 year, 8 months ago

Also, don't think that because they may not land either of these two that they won't potentially still add one.

Seen them connected with some juco-PF types - Junior Etrou.....Chris Griffin. Yep, love the name! :)

Steve Brown 1 year, 8 months ago

khuff803 hours, 22 minutes ago

Let me see if this works - here's his quote:

"I know the pros and cons of every school, and I think they've all done a good job of selling themselves to me. Now I have to look at where I'll best accomplish my short term and long term goals." So if you want happy, join the Navy if you want to become a man,join the Marines, son.Yet he is a kid. If BS wants him and he accepts, we will gladly give him a go.

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