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Tuesday, December 17, 2013

Jayhawks can’t wait to return to fieldhouse

The KU fans celebrate during the Jayhawks regular season opening win against Louisiana-Monroe, Friday, November, 8, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

The KU fans celebrate during the Jayhawks regular season opening win against Louisiana-Monroe, Friday, November, 8, 2013 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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There have been several volleyball matches and women’s basketball contests played in Allen Fieldhouse the past several weeks.

But there have been no men’s basketball games held in Kansas University’s tradition-rich building since the Jayhawks’ 30-point rout of Towson on Nov. 22.

Believe it or not, Saturday’s 11 a.m. contest against Georgetown will be the first men’s game in Allen in 29 days.

“I can’t wait for that,” KU freshman guard Wayne Selden said with a smile.

Same goes for coach Bill Self, who has taken his team to the Bahamas for three games, Colorado and Florida, as well as Kansas City’s Sprint Center for a six-game stretch away from home.

“I bet it’s the longest time (not) playing in Allen Fieldhouse maybe in the history of the building,” Self said Monday on his “Hawk Talk” radio show. “I could be wrong on that. I bet there’s not been one situation where it’s been a month where a team hasn’t played a home game there.”

He’s close to being correct.

It’s the longest stretch between games in the fieldhouse in the Self era, with the previous 19 days four different times.

The longest stretch in the modern era appears to be 32 days between home games from Dec. 16, 2000, to Jan. 17, 2001. Roy Williams was the coach at that time.

The longest stretch in the Larry Brown era was 25 days between home games. There was a 35-day drought from Dec. 14, 1974, to Jan. 18, 1975, in the Ted Owens era. Back then, however, fewer nonconference games were played, and KU generally was away from home a long time around the time of the Big Eight Holiday Tournament in Kemper Arena.

“It’s actually a good schedule as long as you can get through it,” Self said. His Jayhawks have lost at CU and Florida and dropped a game to Villanova in the Bahamas with wins this season over Louisiana at Monroe, Duke, Iona, Towson, Wake Forest and UTEP to go with Saturday’s 80-63 win over New Mexico in Kansas City, Mo.

“We probably lost a little confidence during a stretch. I don’t think that’s all bad. A lot of times you can camouflage weaknesses by beating teams you should beat, especially guarantee games at home. We’ve not had that luxury. Even in wins, we’ve been pushed. Those are good things. We will be pushed three more times without question. Even though they are at home, they will be hard games.”

KU will meet Georgetown (6-2) on Saturday, Toledo (9-0) on Dec. 30 and San Diego State (7-1) on Jan. 5 in the final three nonconference games on the schedule, all in Allen.

“Our next three opponents have a combined record of 21-3,” Self said, understating by a victory. “Toledo is still undefeated. We’ve got a chance to get some momentum by beating some good teams if we play well before conference play.”

After looking at the film, Self thought KU played well Saturday.

Junior point guard Naadir Tharpe celebrated his return to a starting position after a two-game absence by dishing nine assists against four turnovers and scoring eight points in 37 minutes.

“He is trying,” Self said. “I am probably harder on Naadir than I am anybody just because I think he should know. We have had numerous talks. He does know. He gets it. I didn’t think he was doing much to help the other guys, whether it be on the court or off the court. I got frustrated with him. We put him on the bench.

“The reality is, he didn’t react that well (to benching) so that was a little bit disappointing to me,” Self added. “We had a talk about that. The bottom line is, he’s as valuable a player as we have. He can play. He’s a great kid. He has to understand his value to us. He can’t take days off. He is the only one we have with any experience.

“Perry (Ellis, 21 points, nine rebounds) had a good game, obviously, and the big kid was terrific,” he noted of Joel Embiid, who had 18 points and six boards — 17 points the second half. “That was a good team. People will find out. They’ll either win the Mountain West or finish second, because the other team we play (from that league), San Diego State, will win it or finish second.”

Awards list: KU signees Cliff Alexander and Kelly Oubre are two of 10 high school players on the Naismith Trophy High School Player of the Year Early-Season Watch List, the Atlanta Tipoff Club announced Monday.

Alexander, 6-foot-8, from Curie High School in Chicago, and Oubre, 6-7 from Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nev., are ranked Nos 4 and 12 nationally by Rivals.com.

Alexander has led Curie to a 4-0 record. He recently scored 22 points, grabbed 20 rebounds and blocked five shots against Las Vegas Bishop Gorman High School at the Chicago Elite Classic. He scored 18 points and grabbed 13 rebounds in an overtime overtime victory against Chicago St. Rita. Through 15 games, Oubre (6-7, 200-pound) is averaging 24.7 points, 7.1 rebounds and 2.8 steals.

Others on the list: Justin Jackson (North Carolina commit), Stanley Johnson (Arizona), Tyus Jones (Duke), Kevon Looney (UCLA), Trey Lyles (Kentucky), Emmanuel Mudiay (SMU), Jahlil Okafor (Duke) and Myles Turner, who is considering KU and others.

WSU wants KU series: Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall tells Foxsportskansascity.com he would like to schedule a series with KU — one game in Allen Fieldhouse, one in Sprint Center and one at Intrust Bank Arena in Wichita.

“I’m not going to just be bought,” Marshall said. “I’m not going to go to Allen Fieldhouse for a check (as guarantee game opponent). We’d like to play home-and-home. Ultimately, we’ve got to put ourselves in a position where playing (the Jayhawks) or not playing them has no bearing on our success, and that’s what we’re doing. It would be helpful, but still, we’re putting ourselves in a position where it doesn’t matter if they want to play or not. That’s what we have to do. One day, when it behooves them, then maybe it’ll happen.”

KU currently has no plans to schedule WSU in men’s hoops.

“It’s out there that we will play anybody,” Marshall told FOX, “and the better the team, the better for us. And we’ll start on the road.”

Of KU he added: “KU doesn’t normally lose three games, especially this early — sometimes, they don’t lose three games all year. Give ’em credit: (They’re) playing on the road and playing a great schedule. It would just be nice if we were one of them.”

To read the FOX story, go to http://foxs.pt/19OOvh7

Comments

Brett McCabe 5 years, 4 months ago

Did I miss the announcement that it is our job to help WSU build their program? The whining out of Wichita almost never stops, except for the ten-year periods when their program is average, at best. It's funny, all this clamoring to play us seems to only come when they are on the upswing.

This too, shall pass. Marshall, if he has half a brain, will parlay a good season this year into a job with a big-time program and big-time money. WSU will return to being an on-again, off-again mid-major.

By March, we'll see who has the better team and we'll see if WSU is as successful playing as a front-runner as they are as the underdog.

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 4 months ago

Your castigation of WSU and Marshall, in my opinion, is strange. First of all, his desire to play KU is commendable. The Shockers can play with any Big12 school, and because the school has had real success in its immediate past and in its history, I would like to see the game as well. These are facts.

Louisville and Kentucky have done well enough playing an annual game, that is, if national championships is a goal. I am a Jayhawk fan through and through, but making an unfriendly rival of a state team doesn't make sense to me. Kansas is big enough to field three great teams. Last year, all three D-I schools made the tourney. None of Texas' 23 D-I's did. That's amazing.

kellerman411 5 years, 4 months ago

KU would beat WSU by 20. Might be hard to believe right now with how KU has looked lately but if we played tomorrow, it would be ugly. Personally, I think it would be kind of cool to give all the KU people in Wichita a chance right there in town to see the Jayhawks, but it has to make sense from a program standpoint. KU is a heavyweight, prized fighter. You don't give someone a chance because they call you out in the media, you make them beat everyone else first. I think WSU is getting close but not yet. Make them earn it, Bill. If they stay relevant for 2 or 3 more years, then lets get it on.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

I doubt that. I don't see any reason to beileve that WSU wouldn't give KU all they could handle. They are an excellent team.

Chris Shaw 5 years, 4 months ago

In this day and age...this is just a ridiculous comment. You must have forgotten about Bucknell, Bradley, Nevada (Twice), Davidson, Oral Roberts, Richmond, UNI, VCU, UMass, St. Josephs, etc.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

Then why are you so against playing Wichita State Benz?

Steve Zimmerman 5 years, 4 months ago

I think Marshal's comment is positive. WSU is no joke. They have a good bball team. They are not any different than Towson or SDSU, or SJSU or CU. It's not like KU is the only good bball team. Like this year's schedule, the tougher it is the better prep our team will be. Quality opponents only bring the best (exposure) out of our team. Bring it on!!!

Brianna Zaleski 5 years, 4 months ago

The difference is recruiting. We have Wichita, and Kansas for that matter, locked up. We've got the two best players out of Wichita the last 2 years w out playing WSU so why would we need to play them? We can play a similarly ranked team such as SDSU or Colorado and make the exact same headway when it comes to rankings and RPI and things like that. The difference, is that we expose ourselves to a totally different recruiting market when we play those other teams, than in Wichita, which is exposed to Kansas basketball every game they play. Sorry WSU, nothing to gain for us. Start challenging us for recruits in the area, and you might see some interest, otherwise, we ll focus our efforts on more desire able recruiting hotbeds

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

I 100% agree that there is no reason for KU to play WSU. We play games against teams like Georgetown and San Diego State to open doors for recruiting and put KU games on TV screens where they normally aren't. Everyone in Wichita is already watching KU games. There is no benefit.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

So recruits watching Georgetown and San Diego State are going to flock to Kansas because they watched them play on TV?

BRILLIANT!

Ron Franklin 5 years, 4 months ago

This is one of the best points I have seen made for not playing them. From a pure competitive standpoint, I'd love to see them match up. But the benefit of playing them in Wichita is nil.

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 4 months ago

Playing a tough road game is nil? Since when? I'm not afraid of WSU and would enjoy playing/beating them at the roundhouse. KU won't play Missouri, and I applaud that. When you play the number 1 schedule in CBB, you don't have to answer to anyone, but I wouldn't want the rep to become that we won't play MU, WSU, and who next? That isn't Self's style. I'm surprised we haven't scheduled them. Even if we lose a good recruit once in a while to WSU, we'll still win the majority of those.

Ron Franklin 5 years, 4 months ago

Jeff, what do we gain from playing them in Wichita?? Other than saying "we won't back down to anybody", what does the actual game accomplish? There are a lot of other "tough" road games that we can schedule outside of Kansas that bring more exposure to the program. That was my point. So what do we stand to gain as a program from playing them there? What is the benefit that we can't get from playing Duke, Florida, Michigan St, Michigan, or any other high quality program on the road.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

The point is that playing a road game in Wichita offers nothing versus a road game at a location where we aren't already the dominant recruiter such as the east or west coast. ANY road game is beneficial. No one is arguing that. But if KU is going to book a home and away series with an elite opponent, I'd rather it be where we ALSO get a potential boost in recruiting. A game at Wichita State simply doesn't offer that added bonus.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 4 months ago

Willie Cauley-Stein and Semi Ojalaye (sp?) were both top 40 recruits from the state of Kansas and KU never seriously recruited either. AAU politics were why, but that's still two top 40 recruits from the the state of Kansas who did not go to KU so it can very reasonably be argued that KU does not have the state locked down.

Brianna Zaleski 5 years, 4 months ago

As it pertains to KU v WSU... But keep in mind, as u also stated above, KU never really went after either recruit very hard.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

Not landing them because you don't recruit them is significantly different than not landing them because you tried to get them and couldn't.

Name one Kansas recruit that Kansas WANTED and did not get? I can't think of one. That is the definition of locked down.

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 4 months ago

Brian a said that KU has Wichita and the state of Kansas locked down recruiting wise. I'm merely pointing out that there have been two top 40 recruits from the state of Kansas that did not end up at KU for various reasons so I disagree that KU has the state on lock down recruiting wise because KU does not need to lock the state down for elite talent.

Ron Prichard 5 years, 4 months ago

Excellent points. This is absolutely correct and is the reason why we don't need to play Wichita. When you think about it, it is also one of the reasons we won't play Missouri. Right now, KU is the dominant brand in KC and the longer Missouri has been gone to the SEC, the less relevant they will become in the area. Why give them the exposure?

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 4 months ago

Self will play WSU when he feels the time is right.

Robert Brock 5 years, 4 months ago

The right time would be when they are in the Final Four.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

You mean last year Robert? Or the only other time they have been to the final four 1965? Let's see if they can maintain relevance before we get excited about playing them.

Ron Prichard 5 years, 4 months ago

No, the time would be right when it benefits KU. Why would playing WSU at WSU benefit KU this year, or next year, or the year after that? We don't need to promote their program. We already have NATIONALLY relevant road games built for TV and to bolster recruiting.

Why would it benefit KU to play WSU at Allen this year? We already sell out every game. We already have the toughest schedule in D1. We already get all the recruits out of Wichita that we want. There is no purpose to playing them now or in the forseeable future. If those things change, then maybe. Until then, no.

Jack Wilson 5 years, 4 months ago

I'm always puzzled by the disrespect for WSU. We lose to Bucknell, Bradley, Northern Iowa, and VCU in the NCAA tourney, and we can't gain anything from playing WSU? WSU did happen to make it to the Final Four last season. Mid-majors, many times, have more experienced teams. Guys that may not have been as highly rated but have grown into men, and have had multiple seasons to hone their skills.

The exact same logic that Self is using now about a tough schedule, and making this team better, would apply to a home and home with WSU. Playing a so-called mid-major in their house would certainly be an experience that could aid a team in March.

I do understand that money is involved, scheduling, etc. And we need to do something that helps us with the indexes that are considered by the tourney committee.

I also believe that anything the draws attention to the state of Kansas ends up helping the preeminent state franchise -- the Kansas Jayhawks.

And at some point -- on the most basic level -- when the dude down the street keeps running his mouth, you need to shut it.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

If you are going to play a mid major on the road, you do as Self has done and go play Temple in Philly so you are getting in on Philly recruits. ALL of the road games that Kansas plays gives them the learning experience. You might as well get a bump in recruiting while your at it. WSU doesn't provide that.

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 4 months ago

Learning experience in the Roundhouse? Guaranteed.

Recruiting Wichita?

Valentine, Carr, Ross, Ellis, Frankamp, Dreiling . . . ?

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

Didn't we land all those players (except for Carr) without having to go play a game there? Thank you for making my point for me...

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

And what players did we sign from your imaginary game with Temple?

Going through life stupid is not something you should broadcast so loudly.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

Since we aren't even playing Temple, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

Who cares about WSU? Oh yeah "almost everybody" during the 2-3 years they are actually relevant. Let's not forget that their local state reps. tried to pass legislation that would require us to play them at the risk of withholding money from us last year. Absurd. There is nothing for us to gain in playing them, unless as they put it as a check game, only a home game for us. Let's see if their coach sticks, or their program can remain respectable for a while before we "respond" to this shot.

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

The only thing I really disagree with Self and KU bball about is not playing WSU. We are not the sole good basketball team in Kansas. If any of you forgot WSU was very, very close to beating the best team last year in the final four, while KU had been eliminated 2 games earlier. It's time to play WSU, the better they get the worse we look for not playing them, and right now, I'd have to say WSU is the better team at this point in the season. Now at the end of the year, I fully expect KU to be a much more dominant team, but at this point the Shockers look better. As Jack Wilson just posted, playing WSU in the roundhouse would be extremely valuable for the younger players. That gym is a tougher place to play than almost any place in the BIG12 except for ISU, OSU and maybe KSU, Play the Shockers!

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

lol playing an irrelevant team makes no sense. None of your points make any sense.

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

If a final four caliber team is irrelevant, then I guess we shouldn't schedule anyone. I'm a KU fan first and foremost but I can guarantee you that other than the die-hards that post on this site, a majority of Kansans would love to see this game. I for one would like to see KU beat WSU just to hear the Wichita fans quiet down. You can argue the financial situations and recruiting problems, but the fact is it would be a great game and a start of a fun rivalry.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

Sorry Andrew, you make no sense. This game has no importance for KU, only WSU. There is not a lot of KU fans wanting to play WSU, I don't care about quieting down WSU fans, and to have a rivalry there has to be two teams that do not like each other and have bragging rights over who is better. Right now WSU has 2 final fours in 60 years, 0 national championships, no history, and no interest, except by WSU fans (your from Wichita Andrew). We are not in the charity business.

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

It's you're*. Agree to disagree at this point. Other than the fact that you could have used a little more schooling.

Ron Prichard 5 years, 4 months ago

Rodney is right. There is no legitimate reason to play WSU right now or for the foreseeable future. KU can't base the relevance of playing WSU on whether they are good in a given year or not. The relevance is, "does it help KU?" The only people nationally that would be interested in KU v. WSU would be people from Kansas and a few die hard college fans from around the country. Its all about recruiting and national branding. How does it benefit KU, not just a few fans from Kansas that like both schools.

Elias Dunlavy 5 years, 4 months ago

I live in Wichita so I have to listen to all these people say how great WSU is all the time. WSU is a nice team and a nice program that has been on the rise for several years but they aren't on KUs level and wont be for the foreseeable future. Kansas has dominated in a power conference since iv been alive and I don't see that changing anytime soon

Kyle Rohde 5 years, 4 months ago

I would love to see this series happen as Marshall outlined it. However, I can see it from Self's perspective, which is that there's nothing to gain by playing WSU, for KU. Win and it's what you're supposed to do, but lose and it's a big deal. Losing to WSU would be a bigger deal than losing to VCU because it's in the same state. It's unfortunate that the benefits to the entire state are outweighed by KU's own interests but also hard to blame them.

Kyle Rohde 5 years, 4 months ago

That's fair. I'm just imagining the fun and hype all over Wichita if KU were to play there. WSU is never going to compete directly with KU for players, so I was just thinking of how that could help WSU get even better.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

"so I was just thinking of how that could help WSU get even better."

What on earth makes you think that it is BILL SELF'S job to try to figure out a way to help out other schools in the state and their fan base?!? It's not Bill Self's job to figure out how to get the fanbase of another school excited. He doesn't "owe it" to the other schools in the state. That's ridiculous, unless of course other schools from the state want to pitch in and pay a portion of his salary.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 4 months ago

There are other individuals that have brought significant recognition to Kansas such as Dwight Eisenhower (Abilene, Kansas), Bob Dole (Russell, KS) and for a different cup of tea we can toss in Kathleen Sebelius.

I'd rather have the Self statue in front of the capital.

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 4 months ago

THAN DWIGHT EISENHOWER? I guess leading D-DAY is overrated.

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 4 months ago

I love the caps ....DDE is another story.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

Dwight Eisenhower wasn't even born in Kansas (Denison, TX). Not born but raised in Abilene, he did consider himself to be a Jayhawk despite going to West Point.

Ron Franklin 5 years, 4 months ago

So, is AWIII transferring? If he doesn't play vs Georgetown, I believe the writing is on the wall.

RJ King 5 years, 4 months ago

I sure hope not. AWIII is a versatile player who can contribute in many ways. He was ranked slightly higher than Q. Thomas, so I feel it would be a greater loss. Furthermore, if we continue getting One & Two AD's, we will need the balance of experience and leadership.

I'd love to see AWIII develop into the kind of veteran that Self is so fond of playing. By next year many of the players ranked ahead of him out of HS will be gone to the League. Andrew's size and experience might allow him to be one of the better players in the junior class. A lot depends on the opponent - like if Self has both Thaarpe and Mason on the floor at once, or if our bigs are in foul trouble, AWIII could end up playing a little 4.

I do understand it will still be very crowded next year, so I get what you're saying. I DON'T get why you think that the Georgetown game is the defining moment. Is this the deadline for transferring at semester? Or are you saying that if Self goes more with Greene again, that his rotation is set for the year?

Ron Franklin 5 years, 4 months ago

I hope he doesn't either. I really like him. He has a great attitude and work ethic. I just understand the perspective from both sides: Andrew is Running out of Eligibility. And he is too good to ride a bench; maybe not too good at Kansas, but probably too good at 325 other D1 schools. We keep having excuses stacking up as to why he isn't playing and, I read in between the lines on that.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

He's a SOPHOMORE. He's not running out of anything.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

Don't let Benze Junk hear you.. Getting more than enough of his act. Getting your ass kicked by a quad will not help your cause. If you have one.

Jack Wilson 5 years, 4 months ago

RJ: I like your suggestion of playing AWIII at the 4 a bit. However, Self did that vs .Belmont last season, AWIII scored 15 points. Then nothing. Self said all last season (periodically) that AWIII should be playing more. Then nothing. Self did cite AWIII's lack of ball-handling at one point, but that was it.

Clearly, there's something about AWIII's game that Self doesn't prefer.

On the transfer talk, it's really just the planets lining up. White being said to have had a good off season, then a quick choice off the bench, then PT tails off; Greene appearing to seize the 5th perimeter spot; Self saying he needs to play only 5 perimeter guys; Oubre signing, being the #10 player, high talent, possible OAD -- his dad says not, draftexpress has him going 4th in 2015; Along with Oubre, guys that now play ahead of him -- Tharpe, Mason, Greene all returning. Selden not a guaranteed OAD, and could return; it being reported that White was "ill", then a "hip pointer" (remember how there were conflicting reports on Zach Peters?).

Plus, more than anything, White's playing clock is ticking. Does he risk not getting primary PT here next season (his junior year)?

Playing against a possible transfer at semester is that White has already played this season. So he has now burned two seasons. If he transfers at semester, he could only play at semester next season as a junior. If he waited, and sat 2014-15, he'd have a full 2015-16 as a junior.

This is all speculation, of course.

I really, really hope that he doesn't transfer. I hope he sticks with it, gets a break, and is able to show the type of player a lot of us think that he is.

Ron Franklin 5 years, 4 months ago

Should have read your response, before posting mine!!

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

Why would you even ask this question? Good grief. Quit stirring up trouble.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

You just can't help yourself can you? Once again, you are not the moderator here, you do not decide what is and isn't asked and nor do you get to pick and choose comments.

If you don't like them, shut up and move on. Pretty damn simple.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

Losing to Wichita State ISN'T a big deal. They are a good team. Kansas just doesn't want to miss out on games that open national recruiting doors. Games are too valuable. KU doesn't need local bragging rights.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

Dude.. How often do we even go to play a mid-major school? Just look at the recent schedules. Mid-majors come here to play so they can get a big payday. We do not go to Toledo, Louisiana Monroe, Towson, Long Beach State, Davidson, North Dakota, Howard, UT Arlington, Texas A&M-CC, Longwood, UMKC ad nauseam.

We do not need to go to these sites for recruiting purposes including those in Texas. Kansas does not go to any mid-major for recruiting purposes. So again.. What are you talking about?

Tony Bandle 5 years, 4 months ago

OAKVILLE ODDITIES;

1] Isn't Wichita, Kansas the city where the wind blows all directions simultaneously, all the time??

2] As I predicted yesterday...AWIII transfers[hope he doesn't], Brannen Greene leaves after 2/3 years and Conner Frankamp becomes the Kansas Tornado!!!

3] Benz...no offense, but losing to ANYONE is a big deal to KU!!!

4] Wait till the students see Jo Jo...they won't believe it's the same player. :)

5] VALUABLE HOUSEHOLD TIP: Install all black toilets and you'll never have to worry about a dirty bowl ring again.

6] My grandma worked on the internet and makes $23,400 an hour sending out fake recipes. Just go to www.youareanidiotifyoutypeinthiswebsi.... :)

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 4 months ago

Are you sure your grandma is only selling recipes and not something else to make that much money?

Suzi Marshall 5 years, 4 months ago

I'm remodeling two bathroom and in the toilet market. Good idea about the black colors.

Brianna Zaleski 5 years, 4 months ago

Oak,

1. I laughed out loud as I read this and now can't stop giggling. As a resident of the Air Capital city, I can attest that this is sooo true!!

Oak, you are consistently a breath of fresh air (pun intended) on this site. You always manage to keep things entertaining all the while staying above the fray. You also provide keen insight into our beloved Jayhawks that can't be overlooked... Anyway, thanks for the laugh this afternoon, I needed it more than you know!

Tony Bandle 5 years, 4 months ago

Brianna Z. Thanks and the pleasure is all mine. Hope your holidays are happy!!

Aaron Paisley 5 years, 4 months ago

Since Intrust opened, I don't know why KU doesn't play an annual game in Wichita whether it's against WSU or not. Playing a lower profile team there doesn't hurt KU much financially because they would still sellout and Intrust is only a couple thousand or so less than AFH, but I'm sure KU could charge extra for parking to make up for it.

Benz Junque 5 years, 4 months ago

Do you have any concept of how much season ticket holders pay for their tickets? And you want to take one of their games and move it to some irrelevant arena at another school? Have you not ever been in AFH? You should be banned as a fan. That is ridiculous.

Walter Bridges 5 years, 4 months ago

And I was thinking how much is gained to play at different arenas but you say its all about recruiting., Just how many did we sign?

And AGAIN..you are not the moderator. Stop doing it!

Jack Jones 5 years, 4 months ago

As a Kansas Jayhawk fan since 1949 ~ with Forrest C. "Phog" Allens 1951 autograph ~ I've never completely understood our resistance to playing Wichita State. Sure we have played them a few times in the past, and even lost a couple of those games ~ but, I see no rational reason for our current position ~ and even some irrational ones listed here. Especially, when one looks at the non-league schedule of teams we have brought to AFH these past several seasons. It's time for us to 'get over' whatever it is that keeps WSU off our schedule ~ and acknowledge that they are a worthy ~ in all ways ~ basketball opponent.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

Jack let's look at this like it is, what does Wichita offer KU financially to play there? We know what we can make at Allen, at the Sprint center. Also if we play WSU in Wichita or the Sprint Center our fans will be competing for tickets. Nice for the promoters, for Wichita but what is better about that for us? Are there TV stations outside of the state wanting to show this game on National TV? Do not think so. So the only benefactor is WSU and their fans. Unless it makes good business sense, or is better for our fans there really is no other viable reason to do this. We have no history and for most of the fan base no interest. I support our decision to not play them.

Glad you have Phog's autograph...

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

What do you mean no interest. I grew up in Wichita and it's an overwhelmingly Jayhawk supportive town, it would be almost 50/50 packed with KU fans. If KU plays in Wichita (which they should), it would be great for both schools.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

I am happy you grew up in Wichita Andrew but your perspective is skewed. Playing them only makes sense for them and their fans NO ONE else cares about them. Tonight they played AL and ESPN preferred to show the Louisville MO State game, a blow out. WSU is not relevant outside of Wichita. There is NO interest in this game except in Wichita. It would not be 50/50 since WSU would do what CO just did, make sure that it was 90/95% their fans when we played there. They should not play Wichita, it would only be great for them, not KU. They are a nice mid major team, right now. Let's see where they are in 5 years, if their coach stays there. They are not relevant long term Andrew.

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

Thank you for your crystal ball readings, Rodney. You are right, WSU has not been relevant, especially last year and will not be in the future... Rodney. I hope you win the mega millions, since you're so certain of everything, Rodney.

Rodney Crain 5 years, 4 months ago

LOL, typical, I make valid points and your response is emotional. History is a funny thing Andrew, one year of success and two final fours in 50 years does not make your case. History is not a crystal ball Andrew and WSU is not relevant to demand a place on our schedule.

Andrew Horigan 5 years, 4 months ago

Name calling is a funny thing also, especially when they're our own, lol. I think you're a little too emotional as well, in favor of never, ever scheduling WSU. I guess at what point would you be in favor of scheduling WSU? Never I suppose, or would it take another final four? Or if KSU was for some reason not to be in the same conference would you want to schedule them? Believe me, I'm not arguing that WSU has even a close history in terms of success as KU, I just don't think WSU has been as irrelevant as you claim, and think that more people than you believe would like to see this game start up annually.

On a side note I have a funny feeling the NCAA selection committee would love to solve this debate for us and just put us in the same bracket... I have a feeling they're going to do that to us with Mizzou soon enough, they have an interesting sense of humor, see North Carolina... Anyways, good arguing.

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