Friday, August 30, 2013

Hiawatha football recruit Peyton Newell picks Nebraska


Peyton Newell, a 6-foot-3, 280-pound defensive end out of Hiawatha, announced his decision to attend Nebraska during a Friday press conference at his school and on Twitter.

Newell, who had Kansas as a finalist after trimming his original schools list from 34 to six to four, picked NU over KU, Kansas State and South Carolina.

Newell is listed as the 16th-best defensive end and fourth-best player in the state of Kansas, according to


Phil Leister 1 year, 1 month ago

"Have you ever dated someone of a different race?"

These survey questions are getting out of hand.

oldalum 1 year, 1 month ago

Just click on the line where you can ask for a different question if you are bothered by the one that comes up initially.

jhawk613 1 year, 1 month ago

Can you say "No, I've only dated humans."

Pengune 1 year, 1 month ago

...That doesn't make any sense

Race =/= Species

TheBoHawk 1 year, 1 month ago

Man.. I never get anything interesting like that... I've been asked 1000 times if I plan on buying another damn smartphone in the next 3 months.. or if I'm familiar with what the Lego brand is..

kef104 1 year, 1 month ago

Pick different questions until you get one that you can provide a blatantly bogus response to. Ie, Who is our current president? Ans. Benjamin Franklin. Eventually they will tag you with a cookie and the questions will stop.

nuleafjhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

I just answer " Muck Fizzou " to everything.

Chris1955 1 year, 1 month ago

You think that's bad? The Manhattan site had the question, "Have you ever dated a different species?"

Eric Bernauer 1 year, 1 month ago

They got an 80% positive response to the question.

John Brown 1 year, 1 month ago

If you're running or cycling in an urban area, a few miles from your home and you suddenly have to take a massive dump, what is your best option?

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

For the fourth-best prospect in Kansas, he had a pretty impressive list of schools.

This is going to sound like sour grapes, but unless you are a 5-star guy with almost certain pro potential, I'm not sure I understand the value of going to Nebraska. You will have no job marketability in your home state after college. Frankly, no one will care because you didn't play for anyone that Kansans root for.

A kid from Hiawatha, who goes to KU and stars, will have a wide-open job market in the KC-Lawrence metro.

I wish him the best of luck but I think that it is a bad choice.

texashawk10 1 year, 1 month ago

That definitely is sour grapes. Elite programs are built with a core of 3 and 4 star players with maybe a couple of 5 stars mixed in. As far as a post football career, no there aren't as many Nebraska alums in the KC area as there are KU alums, but there's a decent number of them and I'm sure if he really wanted to move back to the KC area, he'll have the connections to make it happen. Even if he doesn't, there will be plenty of networking opportunities for him to get a job in Lincoln or Omaha.

The more concerning thing is that another in state recruit good enough to play major conference football has left the state. On Rivals, 6 of the top 10 players from Kansas have already committed, only 2 are staying in state. That is a problem. KU and KSU have never been good at keeping the borders closed as Nebraska frequently steals any elite player from the KC area and OU and OSU consistently steal talent from the Wichita area. Until KU and KSU close the border to Kansas on top talent within the state, we will see players like Newell leave the state and people will right complain about players leaving the state.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

Agreed that this is a miss for KU. No excuses, we have to close the deal on these types of kids. On the other hand, as long as we close the deal on 20 to 25 good kids each year - whether they are from Mars or Venus - we will be able to win.

johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

NU might have been a good choice years ago, but what have they done lately. Bowling for sure but really no longer a major player in college football. I agree with Kingfisher, should have stayed home and played for KU or at least KSU.

TongiJayhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

??? No longer a major player?!?! Uh... I believe they won their side of the Big Ten conference and finished 2nd overall in the Big Ten last year. They also played in the Big Ten championship game and played in a upper tier bowl game.

jayhawk5125 1 year, 1 month ago

Newell basically said that it came down to relationships with the coaches. And how the entire Nebraska staff, offense and defense were reaching to Newell wanting him to be a Husker. No other school did that.

rockchalker52 1 year, 1 month ago

That's very true; no other schools were reaching to Newell wanting him to be a Husker.

pooflingingmonkey 1 year, 1 month ago

"Which automotive brands do you consider "innovative" and why? " So now I have to write a brief essay to access the articles. What, no questions from the MCAT or the bar exam were available?

Nikki May 1 year, 1 month ago

I want to reply about my answers, but every time I do, someone emails me.

mcrckchlk 1 year, 1 month ago

I just had to answer 10 fast-food restaurant questions in order to read a three sentence article. I seriously hate these surveys. How long until LJW gets the hint?

Andy Hess 1 year, 1 month ago

So much for family, huh Peyton? Traitor.

Robert Brown 1 year, 1 month ago

Are some people seriously trying to argue that Nebraska is not a better program than KU or even K-State? I am not a big fan of Pelini or the team, especially after they started left the conference, but NU is a solid program, more so than either KU or K-State, which is going to have to deal with a post-Snyder world in the not so distant future.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

I would say that KSU is a better football program than Nebraska. Post-Snyder, probably not.

But if the question is simply going to who has the best program, then everyone would simply go to Alabama.

Steve Reigle 1 year, 1 month ago

I wish him the best but I suspect he passed up an opportunity to stand out and get that important media attention, not to mention the opportunity to improve under the tutelage of KU coaches and Hosopple. Still, I wish him the best for his future.

TongiJayhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

Hard to stand out when your getting double teamed on every play!

Jack Joiner 1 year, 1 month ago

Let's schedule Nebraska and beat the hell out of them!

Cmill1221 1 year, 1 month ago

Because that worked well the last 40 years....

Cmill1221 1 year, 1 month ago

Only b/c we lost (something like) 38 of the last 40 games we played them. 37 of them in a row.

Cmill1221 1 year, 1 month ago

Mentality doesn't change reality, we lost 37 in a row. The last one we won was a good one tho.

jhox 1 year, 1 month ago

Traitor. Enjoy the arctic North and playing for the most obnoxious coach in America.

He would have been on the field much sooner at KU as well. I don't get these kids going to Nebraska. If a top 5 program came calling I could understand it, but Nebraska hasn't been relevant in years. Last I checked KU has won as many BCS bowl games as Nebraska, and I think they've even been to one more recently than Nebraska.

almostesoteric 1 year, 1 month ago

I love KU, but NU is light years ahead of us. They aren't the powerhouse of the Osbourne years, but they are still a strong program. (9 or 10 wins every year) 2007 was a long time ago...probably means very little to kids being recruited now.

jhox 1 year, 1 month ago

I get that we don't have NU's tradition, but I just don't like NU. I sat in the stands up there and watched their fans chant, "more...more...more" when they led us something like 59 to 7 in the early 1980's. then there was the time Tom Osborne went for a two point conversion leading 33 to nothing just prior to the end of the first half during a game in Lawrence. Yet they preach how classy their program is.

Still, if Osborne was still in charge and NU was in the title hunt yearly, I'd have a better understanding of it. If the kid went to Alabama, Florida, LSU, or even Texas or USC (for the girls and bright lights) I could get that. I just struggle to see the appeal of playing for a maniac in a cold weather state, for a school that hasn't done anything that remarkable in recent years. It frustrates me to lose kids to that school. So forgive my rant, but I just don't like that school coming into this area and taking the best players, when their significant history is far back in the rear view mirror.

almostesoteric 1 year, 1 month ago

You should go to a game up there. The atmosphere is really good...I think they get 90000 in that place every week. Its the same reason AFH is such a recruiting advantage for us.

The other issue is that we don't really have a significant history. We have had a couple good years surrounded by a bunch of mediocre to awful years.

Also, where is Hiawatha? 15 miles from Nebraska? Im too lazy to google it, but Lincoln is probably not much further from his front door that Lawrence is. I would guess a large chunk of the people up there grow up Nebraska fans.

Last point: We all go nuts when the walk-ons come in and start jacking up 3's at the end of games at AFH. We run it up on people all the time...and I know we like to think of ourselves as classy. Classy would be wishing this kid good luck...lets not go all Kentucky and start ripping any recruit that doesn't pick KU

jhox 1 year, 1 month ago

Something I've not seen mentioned is that, if I'm not mistaken, most of his immediate family are KU grads.

Steve Reigle 1 year, 1 month ago

By car, Lincoln is 121 miles from Hiawatha. To Lawrence, it's 98 miles. Easy drive, either way.

In a straight line, 7 miles to Nebraska.

Steve Reigle 1 year, 1 month ago

121 miles from Hiawatha to Lincoln, by car. 98 to Lawrence. Pretty much a wash. In a straight line, 7 miles to the Nebraska line.

jhox 1 year, 1 month ago

By the way, the traitor comment was all in fun. I knew it would stir the pot. But I still don't see the appeal of Nebraska to these kids. I honestly don't blame a kid for wanting to play in a power program and have a chance to win National Championships. After all, that's how KU hoops stays relevant. It's just that I've seen nothing from a Bo coached team to suggest he'll ever have NU in the hunt. He's a decent coach and will win 8 to 10 most years, maybe a league title, but not a NC.

jayhawk5125 1 year, 1 month ago

You are really calling this kid a traitor? How about being happy for the kid? Jesus...

I am a KU fan, but grew up in Nebraska. Half my family went to KU so it has always been 50/50. Weird I know.

But Jhox you are wrong on playing time, their could be an opportunity for Newell to play in 2015. The defensive line depth at Nebraska is very thin.

I wanted Newell to be a Jayhawk as bad as the next guy, but to bag on the kid is poor. Nebraska had a kid go to Stanford in this class (Harrison Phillips from Millard West) and he got praise from Nebraska fans.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

Yes, those Nebraska fans are notorious for their class. Pleazzzze spare me.

Jim Jackson 1 year, 1 month ago

Guys, we have that stigma of being a basketball school coupled with the fact that we have not had much success the past 10 years excluding the 07 and 08 bowl games.

We are always going to have to go the JUCO route for the state's top players and I am more than happy with that as Snyder turned one of the worst programs in the country into national title contender with JUCOs.

Let this kid go to Nebraska, I'd rather have 20 year old JUCO men.

Rock Chalk, we are going blowing this year

webmocker 1 year, 1 month ago

"Rock Chalk, we are going blowing this year"

Have fun with that!

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

Maybe not always, but for awhile with the JUCOS. If the W's come, I think that we will all be on board.

bville_hawk 1 year, 1 month ago

Bo Pelini is the biggest gomer this side of Hooterville. I can't imagine any recruit being impressed with him.

55jayhawk 1 year, 1 month ago

I can't be sure Payton made a mistake until a few years go by and it doesn't work out at Neb. I wish him the best and hope he has a good career and gets his degree which is the most important thing today! I'm sure there were a lot Nebraska folks up there near Hiawatha that influenced him, hell we got Gale from Omaha and I'm guessing we are still ahead on that comparison. Rock Chalk and looking forward to homecoming and K-Club in October

johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

NU just doesn't impress me post Osborn and even he took a dive in my book on the way out of the Big 12 Conference. I am not saying that NU is a horrible program, I am saying that they no longer dominate college football. No National Championships lately. Unfortunately, the sec has done that lately not the big 10.

Randy Bombardier 1 year, 1 month ago

Traitor. What else can you say? Do guys like him and braden smith realize or care that if the best talent in the state would stay home we could eventually win a Naty. So frustrating.

almostesoteric 1 year, 1 month ago

Lighten up Francis. The kid wanted to play for Nebraska. They have a good program. Wish him luck and move on.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

Umm...he now plays for the enemy. I wouldn't mind if Nebraska never wins another football game.

almostesoteric 1 year, 1 month ago

I wouldn't have cared if Nebraska never won a game before he signed. I just think the term "sour grapes" applies to many of the comments on this thread. No need to get mad at a kid because he picked another school. Maybe we need to recruit better...or win some games...or not savage high school kids on message boards.

almostesoteric 1 year, 1 month ago

You should probably adjust you expectations of the Kansas football program for the next 5 years or so...thinking we have a chance at a NC if we keep in state players is going to give you an ulcer. Lets crawl before we start sprinting.

actorman 1 year, 1 month ago

So let me get this straight: you're saying that if all of the high school talent in Kansas were to go to KU, it would eventually lead to a national championship?!?!? Seriously?!?!? Why, because Kansas is such a hotbed for high school football talent?!?!?

Micky Baker 1 year, 1 month ago

Just in case you missed it, Kansas State lost to North Dakota State in Manhattan tonight 24-21.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 1 month ago

Holy carp! Bill played it too close to the vest this time, I guess.

Randy Bombardier 1 year, 1 month ago

That was my thought as well. Also thinking that 6-3 loss under Gill wasn't so bad after all.

klineisanazi 1 year, 1 month ago

After the last 3 years I think they know that they can be beaten by anyone....

Mark Lindrud 1 year, 1 month ago

We are still a step below NU. They've got tradition and consistently go bowling. It's like how our basketball team gets better players than NU. At least Weis is trying to bring in talent and I'm certain he won't quit trying. We need to win, go to bowl games and then we can win more of these battles.

I don't want to hear about traitors and so forth because you take the good with the bad. Support our team and the players that step on the field for us.

ShockHawk10 1 year, 1 month ago

I noticed a brief reference to Blake Bell in this thread, and I believe this deserves more attention. Blake Bell is arguably the best Quarterback to come out of a Kansas high school in many, many years. He may also have been the most sought after recruit for a really long time. KU and KSU were beating down his door trying to sign this athlete out of Wichita Bishop Carroll High School. However, just like Newell, Bell snubbed the in-state schools for the glamor of a high profile program. Look where it got him. He will continue to toil away on the bench for the Sooners. While he will get looks in the "Belldozer" package, his true talents will not be on display this year or next (the starting job went to a freshman). Had he selected either KU or KSU, Bell could have been a four year starter. I know this is pure speculation, but I don't think it's a reach either. I only hope for the best for Newell; however, there is a strong chance he goes the way of Bell. Our highly recruited high school football players need to think long and hard about their futures. KU and KSU offer gifted athletes an opportunity to play and play early. These athletes will be able to showcase their talents on the field while demonstrating the growth and maturing process that takes place over a four year period. KU and KSU have also proven that, while not national powerhouses, we place our share of athletes on NFL rosters. Again, I hope for only the best for Newell. However, he'd better be prepared to sit for a year or two, or in the case Blake Bell, his entire college football career.

Randy Bombardier 1 year, 1 month ago

Very well said. I agree totally. In addition, I think these kids should also think that just maybe one of the reasons they are being recruited by OU and others in the conference is mainly because that program does NOT want them playing for Kansas or Kansas State. By recruiting Kansas 5-stars OU kills two birds with one stone; they weaken an opponent while also getting the fodder which through competition with other 4 and 5 star guys get the best guy in each position. This whole problem is due to a number of things but one of them is that Kansas public education does not do enough to teach Kansas history and Kansas culture and values. For example, how many of you know about Nicodemus, Kansas? Anyone? I rest my case.

johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

Let's summarize. Kansas & K-State should not loose in state recruits in any sport to other colleges. KU must be competitive in all sports, not just Men's Basketball and Women's Track & Field, then athletes will choose us, not some former conference school with a history but I doubt much of a future in the NC picture.

Mark Lindrud 1 year, 1 month ago

As much as I don't want to lose in state recruits, we know winning comes from getting players in and out of state. We recruit heavily from Texas because we know there's lots of good talent there. Kansas has decent talent in state comparably, but the best talent here will get recruited from it of state schools,

Until we start maintaining success we will lose these battles more often than not. Lets support our team and hope for a better season so we can win more recruiting battles. I believe it will be a fun season to watch that hopefully recruits will season the potential here.

Al Martin 1 year, 1 month ago

Good grief. I'm as bad a KU homer as the next guy, but: 3-9, 2-10, 1-11. Honestly, what are the odds that Nebraska will be a solid program for the next four years? What are the odds that KU will be?

I mean, looking historically, the odds are that we'll fire this coach in a couple of years and be back in the slop again. I certainly hope not, but who can blame a kid for picking a place that has had one losing season in the last, what, 50 years, over us?

Until we start winning more games than we lose, we should figure we're going to lose some of these high profile kids, and just celebrate like heck when we get one.

Doug Cramer 1 year, 1 month ago

We needed this guy. Why ? Because he is a talented D-lineman...and we can't seem to get talent on the d-line.

johninkc1 1 year, 1 month ago

JayhawkinAustin, I get it but unless we quit accepting that we won't get players from Kansas because there are more "successful' programs to go to, we are never going to be relevant in football and I am frankly tired of accepting less than excellence. I think our coaches and current players feel the same way. Our campus is second to none as far as beauty and we can offer immediate playing time for some of these players that may never get PT until they are juniors or seniors elsewhere.

Al Martin 1 year, 1 month ago

We should absolutely try to get every Kansas kid, and be disappointed when we don't. But to say that the kid made a mistake (as many on here have) because he chose a solid program over our currently weak one just doesn't make sense.

UPNYA 1 year, 1 month ago

If he was a JUCO kid or Div 1 transfer we would have got him!

kugrad93 1 year, 1 month ago

Amazing how every kid who doesn't pick KU gets ripped on this board. Let's see, KU has won TWO of its last 34 conference games, and Bill Snyder will be 78 when this kid graduates from college (or 79 if he takes a red-shirt year). Meanwhile, Nebraska has won or tied for first in its division four of the past five years.

Ted Adams 1 year, 1 month ago

I know this much. We won't hear anything about this kid until four years from now when he finally suits up for his redshirt Junior season. He won't even sniff the field until then. The only chance he has otherwise is if Pellini resigns or gets fired.

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