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Thursday, October 11, 2012

KU picked for first in Big 12 preseason coaches poll

Kansas teammates Travis Releford and Elijah Johnson celebrate the win over Purdue on Sunday, March 18, 2012 at CenturyLink Center in Omaha.

Kansas teammates Travis Releford and Elijah Johnson celebrate the win over Purdue on Sunday, March 18, 2012 at CenturyLink Center in Omaha.

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The Kansas men's basketball team is the unanimous pick to win the Big 12 conference according to the preseason coaches poll that was released Thursday.

KU picked up all nine first-place votes, as coaches were not allowed to vote for their own teams. It's the 11th time in Big 12 history that KU has been at least tied for first in the poll.

Baylor picked up the other first-place vote and was selected second, its highest finish ever in the preseason poll.

Oklahoma State, Texas and Kansas State were next in the predictions, followed by West Virginia, Oklahoma, Iowa State, Texas Tech and TCU.

The Big 12 will hold its preseason media day on Wednesday at Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo., which also is the site of the 2013 Big 12 tournament.

2012-13 Big 12 preseason coaches poll

Team (First-place votes) Points

  1. Kansas (9)* 81
  2. Baylor (1) 63
  3. Oklahoma State 60
  4. Texas 58
  5. Kansas State 54
  6. West Virginia 45
  7. Oklahoma 34
  8. Iowa State 28
  9. Texas Tech 18
  10. TCU 9

Comments

wildjayhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

jayfart, you don't know what you are talking about.

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jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

Copy paste RE Hawk on Justin. If he's gotten mean and strong, he'll see 10-15mpg during conference. If Peters is out, maybe10-20 mpg, unless Traylor can guard way taller guys.

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REHawk 1 year, 6 months ago

I continue to inch out on a limb regarding Justin; and think he will play an essential 5-7 min role. With Peters' shoulder questionable for the season, Wesley might be counted upon for more backup minutes than anyone imagined. My feeling on this issue has not changed since late spring. The kid has tremendous athleticism, and now has garnered considerable practice experience in the Self system. I refuse to dismiss his importance to the team.

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TexasHawk44 1 year, 6 months ago

Bingo! Yahtzee! Shazam!

12 - my wish Is that Wesley hacks into this system, tracks you down and pays you a visit at your day job at your driver's ed class. I doubt that you have the sack to say that to his face. Have some class and respect.

At least you stopped at 12. I thought you might ramble on until 100.

Read the "Old Man and the Sea" did you? Nice...

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zsn 1 year, 6 months ago

Can anyone explain how the point system works? Do they only count nine ballots for each team? Otherwise, I cannot come up with how KU gets 81 (has to be 9x9) and TCU gets 9 (9x1). I guess this means that each coach only gets to rank teams from 1-9, with the points being in reverse order of placement. Weird way to run a poll, don't you think??

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Joe Ross 1 year, 6 months ago

No doubt, Kansas is on an impressive run. What distinguishes this one from others, however, is the sheer amount of talent exiting on an annual basis and how quickly the talent behind them has to be coached up. Of course, some people would say the same about Cal's teams recently. The difference is at KY (and before that at Memphis), the talent level is generally a lot higher coming in. This is an unquestionable testament to Coach Self's coaching ability.

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onetime_77 1 year, 6 months ago

Travis has two problems. He is too passive (much akin to Rush). He does have the tools to do almost anything he wants out on the floor. The other problem is his foot problems. He gets timid when it starts acting up. Not sure if many on here know, but coming out of middle school he was one of the top rated players in the country. Then he ended up breaking his foot and never really got that killer instinct back. Too bad. He's a great kid and I'm glad I've got to see him do some great things.

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Jason Keller 1 year, 6 months ago

Am I the only one who thinks Travis is highly under rated? The guy has offensive skills, we have seen glimpses of that. He has a real opportunity to breakout this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy gets drafted if he shows consistent shooting ability.

Heck, the guy is 6'6 and is a lockdown defender and he can handle the ball!!

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Tony Bandle 1 year, 6 months ago

Wishes and dreams -

  1. Jeff - Go up strong every time to dunk the ball, make the freebies, put their bigs in trouble.

  2. Travis - Remember your soph year.

  3. EJ - TT is gone...you're the man.

  4. BenMac - Just pretend your in the Wellston Gym and knock 'em down.

  5. Perry - Don't change a thing.

  6. Kevin - Get under control...but not too much.

  7. 'Rio - Push everybody in practice, make yourself better.

  8. Naadir - Show everyone we don't need ten point guards.

  9. A&W - Fire away...and don't stop.

  10. Landen - Kick Zach's ass.

  11. Zach - Kick Landon's ass.

  12. Jamari - Kick both their asses.

  13. Wesley - Channel the inner Langford in you.

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William Blake 1 year, 6 months ago

"Surprise, surprise, surprise!" (even Gomer Pyle was capable of sarcasm)

Someone needs to bash us so we can gain additional shoulder chips. Can't win a big hand without chips.

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Tony Bandle 1 year, 6 months ago

My Picks: Kansas #1...tied for 9th, Texas, TT, OU.OSU, Baylor, KSU WV, TCU, ISU.

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Jayhawk470 1 year, 6 months ago

For what its worth, my picks for this season:

(1) Kansas (2) Oklahoma State (tied 3rd) Baylor, West Virginia (5) Texas (6) Iowa State (7) Kansas State (8) Oklahoma (9) Texas Christian (10) Texas Tech

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MartyrMangino 1 year, 6 months ago

I don't have a problem with KU as Big 12 preseason #1. Nobody else has the overall talent KU has, nobody has the coach KU has, and nobody has the balance KU has.

About the balance though, Jeff Withey and Perry Ellis / Kevin Young are unproven scorers, putting it kindly. Last year we relied on Thomas Robinson and Tyshawn Taylor for most of our scoring, not to mention their enormous impact on our offense as a whole. The way I see it is one of three things will happen: Jeff Withey will develop a couple low post moves, maybe a shot from the elbow, and we will atleast keep defenses honest. Another option is that our guards and small forward(Johnson, Releford, McLemore, White, Tharpe) will step up the load they bear of our offense. Finally, the option I find most plausible, we take a step backwards offensively this year.

As much as a defensive presence Jeff Withey is, he has had a long time to develop an offensive game with great practice opponents and a great big-man coach, but he is not shown much improvement outside of his free throw %. I don't expect him to explode onto the scene this year. Also, can anybody remember the last time we had a freshman come in and contribute offensively in the post? Darrell Arthur? Drew Gooden? I don't know if Perry Ellis is that good (I've never seen him play), and Kevin Young doesn't seem well suited to many minutes in the post. The remaining post options are less offensively inclined at this point.

We certainly will be able to field a good defensive lineup, but I worry that without the offensive balance, we won't have a ceiling as high as many are predicting. In my opinion, we haven't been this thin inside since we had Giles, Jackson, Moody, Wright, and Kaun in '05 - '06. We lost 8 games that year. The average points we scored in those losses was 61.8. I didn't include the Missouri game in the average because it went into overtime. Something that is also a worry is that Jeff Withey has been injury prone in his career in Lawrence. As we were last year, we once again are operating without much of a safety net. This team is going to have to pass the ball very well, play defense very well, and make the 3 point shot. Without the scoring balance in the post, we generally will need to increase the guards/SF scoring contribution, and stay healthy if we are going to make any noise nationally.

Thanks for reading my two cents. See you all at Late Night.

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Jayhawk470 1 year, 6 months ago

How is Texas Tech not picked last, given the instability in their program right now? I would swap Tech and TCU in a heartbeat.

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jhawkln 1 year, 6 months ago

It's funny for all things Coach Self hates about Drew, he sticks up for with Gillespie. Who's the worst?

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nuleafjhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Thanks LJW, for keeping the title of this article around to use every year !!

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Chris Shaw 1 year, 6 months ago

Well, we know who Bill Self picked! Scott Drew should be proud even though Bill Self hates his guts.

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Jack Wilson 1 year, 6 months ago

We are the best team in the league. We should be the favorite. Nothing new there.

Wishes for the season. First, health. Then --

  1. Releford: To assert himself on offense. You can go off for 25. It's ok.
  2. EJ: 45% three ball and to lead.
  3. Withey: Just one .. a go to post move.
  4. McLemore: To live up to coach Self's uncharacteristic praise.
  5. Ellis: To be better than Marcus in his freshman season.
  6. KY: To be allowed to play his best role, and not be expected to do more.
  7. White: To be the dead-eye outside shooter we've been looking for.
  8. Tharpe: For maturity, control, and confidence.
  9. Peters: To be a 13.3%er, or, to wonder how Lucas got so good.
  10. Lucas: To be a 13.3%er, or, to wonder how Peters got so good.
  11. Traylor: To be worried because Roberson or Gordon committed.
  12. Wesley: To not have to play.
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onetime_77 1 year, 6 months ago

I wonder what Jack Harry's prediction is this year.

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James Kiernan 1 year, 6 months ago

1) Kansas 2) Texas 3) West Virginia 4) Baylor 5) Iowa State 6) Kansas State 7) Oklahoma State 8) Oklahoma 9) TCU 10) TTU

Never underestimate the power of Scott Drew's lack of coaching ability.

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clevelandjayhawker 1 year, 6 months ago

Does EJ become preseason first team if Kabango is declared ineligible?

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Jayhawks Rock 1 year, 6 months ago

Unanimous except for one. Yes I know a coach can't pick their own team. It's just a funny title.

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