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Iowa State defeats Kansas, 51-23

  • 6 p.m., Nov. 17, 2012
  • Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, KS

Saturday, November 17, 2012

Black and blue: KU drubbed by Iowa State, 51-23, in final home game

Kansas defenders Ben Heeney, left, Bradley McDouglad (24) and Lubbock Smith walk away as Iowa State receiver Aaron Horne celebrates a touchdown during the second quarter, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012 at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas defenders Ben Heeney, left, Bradley McDouglad (24) and Lubbock Smith walk away as Iowa State receiver Aaron Horne celebrates a touchdown during the second quarter, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012 at Memorial Stadium.

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Charlie Weis talks after 51-23 loss to ISU

Kansas football coach Charlie Weis talks after his team's 51-23 loss to Iowa State on Nov. 17, 2012.

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KU-Iowa State

A couple of back-up quarterbacks played big roles in Iowa State's 51-23 beatdown of the Kansas University football team on Saturday night at Memorial Stadium in front of an inspired crowd of 41,608.

Unfortunately for the home team, it looked as if ISU third-stringer Sam Richardson would be the clear-cut starter if he played for the Jayhawks, who saw head coach Charlie Weis juggle starter Michael Cummings and former starter Dayne Crist in and out of the huddle all night.

Richardson, who had not thrown a pass all season, took over for Cyclones' starter Steele Jantz on ISU's second possession and completed 23 of 27 passes for 250 yards and four touchdowns. Just in case it was unclear whether he was the best quarterback Saturday, Richardson also added 43 yards and a touchdown on the ground while leading the Cyclones (6-5 overall, 3-5 Big 12) to 548 yards of total offense, making them the third straight team to top 500 yards against the KU defense.

"He wasn't even listed in the two-deep," said KU coach Charlie Weis, admitting he was somewhat of surprised to see Richardson under center. "So, no I didn't give much thought to it. Maybe I should've."

To be fair, Weis was not the only one caught off guard by Richardson's role in this one. The 6-foot-2, 207-pound red-shirt freshman from Winter Park, Fla., said after the game that he had no idea he would play.

After an opening sequence that saw the Jayhawks (1-10, 0-8) and Cyclones trade mistakes, the teams then began to trade leads. Iowa State went up 3-0 on its second drive of the game, and KU responded with a Taylor Cox touchdown run to go up 7-3. ISU answered that to go up 10-7, and KU hit right back when sophomore tailback Tony Pierson (73 yards rushing, 37 receiving and two touchdowns) opened the second quarter with an electric 55-yard touchdown run to give KU a 14-10 lead.

That's about the time the Jayhawks lost touch, as ISU ripped off four straight touchdowns in the next 10 minutes to take a commanding 38-14 lead.

Albert Gary's 11-yard touchdown reception from Richardson gave the Cyclones a 17-14 lead, and Richardson added two more TD passes and a one-yard touchdown run during the knockout stretch. Iowa State's 38 first-half points matched their season-high for an entire game.

"We got out of rhythm, and they got right into rhythm," senior receiver Kale Pick said. "I never thought we were out of it until late in the fourth, but once I kind of realized it, it was just kind of a hopeless feeling. Kind of like you're in quicksand, and you can't get out of it. It was a bad feeling, and it was just tough that it had to end like that."

Senior safety Bradley McDougald agreed: "It was a 20-yard gain here, a 15-yard gain there and then they came back and got a third-and-short, and it just seems like things weren't working for us."

While Iowa State's offense was clicking, the ISU defense may have been playing even better. After the Pierson run, KU gained just 19 yards on its next four possessions. Of course, two of those four drives ended with dropped passes on third down and another stalled because of a KU fumble.

"When you're playing the game we're playing, at this state, you just can't let that happen," Weis said.

The KU offense showed signs of life on the final drive of the first half when former starter Dayne Crist took over at quarterback and marched the Jayhawks to three points. Crist, who had been in on a few plays earlier in the game, zipped passes all over the field, looking confident and competent like the player many believed he was before the season began. Crist finished 9-of-20 passing for 156 yards and a touchdown. Although using Crist to throw the ball down the field was Weis' plan heading into the week, he did not anticipate using him that much.

"I thought the game would be in the 20s," said Weis, adding that KU's 25 pass attempts were about 10 more than he would have liked. "If we're throwing it that much, that's not a good thing."

Cummings started the second half, but the Jayhawks' opening drive stalled. Crist was back out there for the next possession, but any dreams of the former Notre Dame QB capping his KU career with a comeback for the ages disappeared with an incomplete pass on third and five and an interception on fourth and five with 5:40 to play in the third quarter.

"We were living very dangerously already at halftime," Weis said. "Because it was gonna take a perfect half for us to have a chance."

The second half was far from perfect, and instead of partying on the field after their first conference victory in three seasons, Weis and the Jayhawks once again sang the alma mater to a mostly empty student section.

The only thing that kept the Memorial Stadium bleachers from being empty in the game's final quarter were the hundreds of vocal ISU fans who made themselves at home in Lawrence while watching their team become bowl eligible for the third time in head coach Paul Rhoads' four seasons at ISU.

"I'm very surprised," said senior Toben Opurum when asked about the outcome. "That is not the way that we had this night planned. We did a poor job of executing what was asked of us."

Added McDougald: "A lot of the blame should go to the defense. We had a terrible time stopping them, and there's so many senior defensive guys that we have. It just hurts to go out that way, to see them have to go through that for our last time in Memorial Stadium."

Comments

ahpersecoachingexperience 2 years, 1 month ago

If ISU's third stringer tears us up I'm sure we'll do fine against old what's his name next week!

Doug Roberts 2 years, 1 month ago

Chris Omigie should never be allowed to step foot on the field EVER AGAIN.

Also, we conceivably had all year to come up with some alternate unis for the final home game and that's the best KU could do? Cheap lookin' black and white, but with the standard blue socks, blue arm bands, blue gloves, etc.? C'mon man! And I love the Jayhawk, but it has no business being on the side of a football helmet. It just doesn't look good. Let me guess, did Bruce Springsteen or Bon Jovi design the uniforms?

Kyle Sybesma 2 years, 1 month ago

I agree with your jersey assessment. I like the white helmets but do it with a reverse color scheme of the normal helmets. The black uniforms are terrible.

pepper_bar 2 years, 1 month ago

They look like uniforms West Virginia returned to the manufacturer because they were too bland.

If the black jerseys were supposed to look tough, putting the smiling Jayhawk on the side of the helmet was a poor match for the black. Just a weird look all around.

JakeBarnes 2 years, 1 month ago

I guess when you play lousy it is OK to talk about the uniforms. I liked the black uniforms. I saw them as Navy blue even though I knew they were black.

shelleysue 2 years, 1 month ago

I liked the uniforms. Totally different look that brought a huge smile to my face. Also loved the white helmets. The Jayhawk is our mascot so why shouldn't it be on the helmet. Regardless, it's a lot better that than KU in that lame Trajan font.

Kyle Sybesma 2 years, 1 month ago

With the talk of Maryland and Rutgers going to the Big 10, I hope Zenger is being proactive to make sure KU has a spot in one of the four future power 16 team conferences. When the Big East loses it's auto qualifier for the BCS the Big 12 will be next to get eaten up. The Big 10 is the best place for KU.

pepper_bar 2 years, 1 month ago

KU and K-State are a package deal. Do you think the Big 10 will want the Grapes?

kujayhawk7476 2 years, 1 month ago

"The Grapes"?!?! I love it!! From now on "The Grapes" goes along with my motto of purple sucks! Thanks pepper_bar!

Seth Nesmith 2 years, 1 month ago

I hope 'the grapes' sticks. I like that as well. I also like the black unis and helmets.

NebraskaJayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

If you haven't noticed, they were two wins away from playing in the NC game up until last night. We aren't a fart in the wind compared to them right now as far as being relevant in football and unfortunately it's football that's driving these realignments. Your comment could be reversed...who would want us?

danmoore 2 years, 1 month ago

Can't see it. The market KU delivers is too small. Doesn't matter what we bring to the table athletically it's what we bring to their bottom line.

BringBackMark 2 years, 1 month ago

Give me a BREAK! We belong in the Mountain West not the Big 10. Since 1960 we've averaged 2 conference wins per season. Take away the '68, '95, and '07 teams and we're under 2. We're not a powerhouse and apparently won't be. If we couldn't sustain at least 6 win seasons after the '07 and '08 years we never will. We need to quit thinking about basketball. It will be fine. We've got to find a fit for the football program.

Last night epitomized the entire season. What did Cummings do wrong other than lead us to two scores and keep the ball moving? Then on 3rd and 6, leading 14-10, CW decides its time to put his "passing" quarterback in. From that point forward the entire offense looked lost.

One thing about it, this loss was a total effort from the coaching staff on down. I've never been a big fan of cutsie stuff like the black uniforms. Several years ago we broke out the white helmets against Missouri. It looked like 11 Sta-Puffed marshmellow men on the field. The one touch to our uniforms that I do like are the red leggings which we've not seen in several years.

Now you can proceed with all of the "you're an idiot" replies.

NebraskaJayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Good post. Only thing I would disagree with is that if we would happen to end up in a conference such as the Mountain West if a realignment does occur, I don't think we would be "fine" in basketball. Yes, we'll still be good and relevant...but I could actually see that hurting the basketball program and actually taking a step backwards. We need football to be relevant at Kansas. Period.

BayPark 2 years, 1 month ago

The Mountain West is getting weaker and weaker.

90sHawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Once Maryland and Rutgers leave for the Big 10, I'd place my money on the ACC getting eaten up by the Big 12, SEC, and Big 10. Those 3 conferences along with the Pac 12 will make up the 4 major conferences as we move to a playoff format

Hank Cross 2 years, 1 month ago

It's the ACC that will be torn apart. With the B12/SEC championship game, the B12 is secure.

Matt Bowers 2 years, 1 month ago

I love Kansas and I love Lawrence, but the one thing I don't miss about living there is the buh-huh. You mean to tell me you already have the scoop on realignment? Kansas Football is in the process of rebuilding, it took three seasons to get HCCW in here and it will take him three to turn it around. Be a fan or shut up. HCCW has made this team competitive in most games and will probably have a good recruiting class. Everyone thought that we would win this and after the 1st quarter it appeared so, but the defense couldn't keep up b/c they weren't prepared. The defense wasn't prepared b/c it faced an offense it had not planed for. The defense faced an offense it had not planed for b/c it wasn't on the depth chart. Complain all you want, fear all you want, worry all you want, but in my mind HCCW is doing a good job considering.

Rock Chalk

Armen Kurdian 2 years, 1 month ago

I can probably say something everything will agree upon, and that is I am sick and tired of this realignment BS, where schools are just chasing dollars, forgetting tradition, geography, and common sense just to try to wring out more dollars. And it's a self-licking ice cream cone. Generated cash gets eaten up faster and faster. The NCAA can't stop schools from choosing new conferences, but it can ban them from post-season play, take away scholarships, etc. Nebraska, MU, Colorado all a bunch of quislings. Boise State in the Big East? A&M in the SEC? UMD in the Big 10? This is just ridiculous now.

LeadFarmer 2 years, 1 month ago

I think anyone who reported that several KU d-backs would be playing on Sundays should be fired. Why does Clint Bowen still have a job? To keep those upper tier KS players coming to KU? Please. ISU has 1st and goal on 3 yard line. 1st down and 2nd down plays are stuffed by LBs. 3rd down QB sneak and a d-back gets run over by a skinny freshman.

JayDocMD 2 years, 1 month ago

Hard to "coach up" DB's when they just don't have the athletic ability to keep up with Big 12 WR's. If you want to blame the coaching, blame their recruiting ability.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

So, you are firing Campo as well? They share responsibility for the DB's.

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 2 years, 1 month ago

Ugly loss and even uglier uniform/helmet combination!

I think they had a good look during the Reesing years. We should just stick with that.

Michael Sillman 2 years, 1 month ago

Sorry but I can't buy the talent argument for this loss. This was Iowa State, not exactly the mecca of college football. I didn't see a lot of 5 star recruits on their side of the field.

For some reason, the coaches did not have the kids ready for this game like they did for Texas and Texas Tech. The Iowa State coaches spotted some opeings in Campo's defense and waltzed right thru them.

NebraskaJayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

You do realize ISU has one of the best coaches in college football these days. Rhodes is no joke and ISU is going to be a very good program for years to come. Other schools have attempted to hire Rhodes away, but he's where he wants to be and he's going to build that program up. Making a comment like that 5 years ago would have been true. Not today. We are literally the doormat of the Big XII...

Max Ledom 2 years, 1 month ago

Looks like we have a bunch of OLD HAGS on this message board tonight. Those uniforms were awesome. You guys need to lighten up. The all white with the Jayhawk on the side? Thats EXACTLY where it belongs. I guess the new look blew your wigs back a bit to much. Relax and sit back in your recliners old men. And black uniforms really are cool. I hope we keep them.

To be honest, we were very competitive with Cummings in there running things for the past 5 weeks. But we put in Crist out of no where, and his first drive is a 1 yard designed run. (Have you seen Crist run coach? Snails?) Second play was a horrible pass that almost put our receiver in the hospital. And the third play was a 3 yard check down to a receiver that was no where close to the first down. I just don't understand it.

Alas, we are getting better. Just need time.

Rock Chalk

NebraskaJayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

Dude...regardless of whether you thought the uniforms looked good (they did not), they do not represent the school's colors or traditions. Why would you wear uniforms that have no relevance to the university...

Blue and White with Red socks. We're the Kansas freaking Jayhawks for crying out loud...not the Lansing Jailbreakers!

90sHawk 2 years, 1 month ago

I think the uni's were fine; at least for a game. I personally don't mind them switching it up like that for something like Senior Day, just wouldn't want to see it too often. Loved the helmet though.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

There are lots of great contemporary versions of uni's being used these days. The version offered for our team this week were not. They reminded me of the band uni's, although even the band uni's are done better than the FB option.

I love the Jayhawk, and think it is great to have on the uni's/helmets, but on the white helmets with black uni's - not so much. How about the Jayhawk on a silver helmet like the ducks use sometime? Even that couldn't have redeemed the bad execution of the blacks.

Jim Pendleton 2 years, 1 month ago

Very disappointed with tonight. Despite the losses, we have been in every home game with chances to win most. Was not necessarily predicting a win tonight, but thought we could win with a good effort. Just wasn't there. Stunned that the defense that only gave up 27 in regulation to Tech, 21 to Texas, and 20 to OSU could get trashed by ISU. If you would have told me at the start of the year that the Iowa State game would be the worst home game of the year, I'd have said no chance.

Sorry I have to say that I didn't like any part of the color scheme tonight. I know that black is supposedly a cool thing to wear among kids these days, but I'm sorry it just doesn't fit with KU in any way shape or form. Maybe thought since MU is no longer around we could get away with it. Can you imagine the uproar if they were still in the Big 12? Someone also needs to permanently ditch the white helmets. In my lifetime, we have never had any success wearing those, and that goes back a ways. Please, no more! Whatever happened to wearing red once in awhile? Looks a heck of a lot better than black. Rock Chalk, Crimson and Blue!

bigboypants 2 years, 1 month ago

The band's uni colors are so awesome that the football team decide to use them too. White hats for the band next year (all sarcasm folks...).

Jayhawker111 2 years, 1 month ago

Iowa State used a third team quarterback and he dominates.

With the problems KU has at quarterback I have wondered all year why Wies has not tried the other KU QB (Jabonsky)?

Jabonsky can do no worse than Cummins or Crist and should be given a chance to show what he has in the last game at West Virginia.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Bob Morse III 2 years, 1 month ago

One thing I will love about next year is Crist will not be able to be on the field. Why do we take the one thing that has been working for us the last few games and go back to the start of the year when we could not do anything on the offense?

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

The first couple times Crist was inserted, it was an obvious passing situation and the last minute or so of the half. What has been working for the past few weeks has nothing to do with Cummings completing passes (40%?) and very little to do with scoring drives taking less than 2 minutes.

Unfortunately, dropped passes will sabotage a drive no matter who throws the pass, and 3 yd routes on 3 and 5 are as likely to sustain a drive as poorly thrown balls that don't give the receiver the op for YAC.

okiedave 2 years, 1 month ago

The best K.U. uniforms were the light blue (shaded like the Carolina Blue) worn during the 1950's and early 60's.

pepper_bar 2 years, 1 month ago

That was the alternate last year, right? And it was awesome.

Last night KU was wearing a Missouri color. A bizarre new low for the athletic program.

Robert Brock 2 years, 1 month ago

Gayle Sayers looked okay wearing those unis. So did Hadl.

Mike Barnhart 2 years, 1 month ago

Campo took over a defense that was dead last in the country. A comical defense that allowed opponents to gain HUGE chucks of yardage whenever they wanted.

Now, with an improved scheme, countless hours in the weight room, tireless off season conditioning and vastly improved discipline, I'm proud to say we've passed New Mexico State, Colorado and UMass and are now just the 115th worst defense in the country!

Look out Troy, Indiana and UNLV, you're next!

Steve Corder 2 years, 1 month ago

I just feel sorry for the kids. Hours of practice, film, conditioning all wrapped around hope for a competitive season has been crushed bit-by-bit, week-by-week.

What's left?

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

Hopefully, a degree and job like the rest of us?

jayhawkeratheart 2 years, 1 month ago

Anytime you have a third string QB on the field, and allow him to have all day to complete as many passes as he wants, he's bound to show up, and show off. Senior day, and no one is rushing the QB, even the announcers were tearing Weis apart for his lackadasial approach on defense. Whenever the camera would zoom in on Charlie, all you saw was this lost look, that seemed to say, Just get me outta here! Just plan terrible defense, with no pass rush, and no sacks. An inexperienced freshman, tearing our defense apart. Go figure.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

CW does not plan the D, and has made that clear from the beginning. He runs the O and has turned the D responsibilities over to the DC the DC.

Steve Reigle 2 years, 1 month ago

"He wasn't even listed in the two-deep," said KU coach Charlie Weis, admitting he was somewhat of surprised to see Richardson under center. "So, no I didn't give much thought to it. Maybe I should've."

Well, no. Even when you try to figure out the unexpected, nobody is going to plan for a third string quarterback to light it up like that. There's not enough time in the week to plan for that kind of contingency.

wsjayhawk1 2 years, 1 month ago

Absolutely disgusting the money KU throws at these coaches and the return you get. What a disgrace. This program won't win a big 12 game next year or maybe never. Join the MIAA and maybe be third after MW and NWM next year. Fire the millionaires. Thanks Perkins for the memories.

Ethan Berger 2 years, 1 month ago

I really didn't mind the all black jerseys. I actually liked them. They were different. However, those light blue one we wore last year need to come back. Those were nice. Now let's move from women talk and have man talk.

I feel sorry for our seniors. We have to remember that when Toben and Bradley came here, they were part of one of our past classes ever. They were ranked in the 30s. They came thinking they were about to be a part of something big. The transformation of a program. It had already started with the orange bowl win and the 8-5 season that followed. However, we know what happened. Our team collapsed and everything went wrong. They came in for a year that Kansas should have won the North and instead tied last with Colorado. Then their next three years, they never sniffed higher then last place. These kids did everything. Toben and Bradly switched positions. They are high character guys. They watched Darrian Miller and Keston Terry leave, two of our best players. It just didn't pan out and it stinks because they were supposed to be part of one of the biggest programs shifts in awhile.

pepper_bar 2 years, 1 month ago

Call it women talk, but the pride that goes with the school colors matters to those of us who care about tradition.

Would you ever see Missouri running onto the field in blue uniforms? Crimson uniforms? Then why is Kansas running onto the field wearing Missouri's colors?

Ethan Berger 2 years, 1 month ago

black is Missouri colors? Kansas and Mizzou both wear white. I'll give you tradition. Mizzou is no longer in our conf. Who cares that the were black, which is the most basic color in sports outside of white. They didn't wear black and gold, and the jayhawk was on the helment.

pepper_bar 2 years, 1 month ago

Mizzou's primary colors are black and gold, KU's are crimson and blue... and KU wore black and the neutral color of white. Much closer to Missouri's tradition than Kansas's.

I'm convinced CW lost some sort of bet.

Ethan Berger 2 years, 1 month ago

I thought he was going for the funeral. I understand that those are their primary colors, but black is so primary that the other color is what matters more.

troutsee 2 years, 1 month ago

This game was another in a long line of embarrassing displays by KU football. To heck with getting down on Crist. He was not the reason that we got blown out in this game. Our defense was horrid. Do you hear me, horrid. Our D managed to make a red shirt freshman, who had played sparingly, look like a Heisman candidate. They did the same thing last week with Doege.

Our offense also stunk In fact, the whole team stunk. I was quite hopeful after the refs once again screwed us out of a win over Texas, that we had turned the corner. This lackluster effort shows that we have not. Get ready for a complete blowout loss to West Virigina. This defense would have a hard time stopping MIAA teams. I am sure that the coaches and players feel terrrible and for us fans, well we are one terribly pissed off bunch.

Good riddance to KU football for another year. Not as many fans are going to be suckered into buying season tickets and contributing big bucks to the Williams fund next year.

Other teams can get big and unexpected wins but not KU. Never....ever. We have learned to be disappointed week after week. And, as long as we keep saying, "oh well, Kansas is just a basketball school," it will continue to happen. And then we will find ourselves in the Mountain West and KSU will end up in the Big Ten.

And all of this will happen for one reason and one reason only, we KU fans have not demanded more. We have been content to marvel at the accomplishments of our BB teams and let our football team wallow in the depths of college football. Too bad. We have created a culture of nonchalance and low expectations for our football program. Thus, we continue to get what we as fans tolerate, embarrassing losses. But, so what, we are a basketball school.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

You've done a fine job of displaying all that you criticize. "Good riddance to KU football for another year" (with games still left in the season = quitting), and "Get ready for a complete blowout loss to West Virigina" is a fine example of fan that "demands more".

"Never....ever" sounds like something I get from my 5 year old, but she can't type so you do have that on her.

mdfraz 2 years, 1 month ago

The way your comment reads is that you think Doege came out of nowhere against us. If that's true, you illustrate perfectly that you have no clue about college football. The guy is ranked 3rd in passing yards in the nation. He's been over 300 yards in all but 3 games and went for nearly 500 against WVU.

And if this is a "good riddance", I don't think the football team needs "fans" like you anyway.

troutsee 2 years, 1 month ago

Oh yes they do. They especially need fans like me. Fans that are sick of KU FB being a third class citizen. Fans that expect and demand more and better. I am so sick of hearing KU fans say, "oh well, KU is a BB school." Sorry if that offends some of you but as a diehard KU football fan, that makes me sick to my stomach. I am angry. And I am tired of having losing teams. And unless we as fans show our disgust and demand better results, we are not going to have a fall sport. How if that offends the sensitivities of some of you, too bad. I love KU football but I demand something better than what we are getting.

mdfraz 2 years, 1 month ago

So exactly what do you think the fans could have "demanded" last night? There were over 40,000 people there to watch a 1-9 football team. And the team fell flat on its face. I hate when fans bail early, and I was there until the final seconds ticked away, but as you point out, the team sucked last night against a very mediocre Iowa St. team. So we can yell and demand, but how does that help the defense not give up 550 yards?

The basketball only fans are a cancer, no doubt. But your post certainly comes off sounding like you gave up on the team. And yet, you lambast fans for doing exactly that. Can't have it both ways.

shelleysue 2 years, 1 month ago

I can't keep up. Fire Gill. We did. All I want is to be competitive with the south teams. We were sure a lot better at that this year. If memory serves we took Texas to the final minute and Tech to two OTs, so we did that too. Fill the stadium. We do. What do you want people? There have been so many improvements this year that can't be denied. Did you seriously think Weis could come in and turn around everything the first year? Let me guess. You're also the one who pre season posts five paragraphs of cramp and predictions for the outcome of every game including scores which is totally ridiculous. If KU football pisses you off so much stay the heck away from it find something else to do. I want to see us win too but I'm not a coach so I need to leave it to someone who is. You know, we've had some fun games this year and I can honestly say that didn't happen even one time last year. I hope Weis, staff and players read all this crap and post it for motivation. And when this program gets turned around, and it will, I can't wait to see what you all have to say. I NEVER say "I can't wait for basketball" but I'm about ready to. You people are depressing.

Dirk Medema 2 years, 1 month ago

After we shut down their starting QB at the beginning and end of the game, do you think that anyone at ISU is questioning the HC for not starting the 3rd stringer earlier in the season? How many more games would they have ...

No, they are going bowling, so they likely aren't questioning the coach. That's reserved domain for the fans of losing teams.

Kyle Cornish 2 years, 1 month ago

Keep the helmets with the Jayhawk! It's the most recognizable logo in college. I have no idea why we don't use it on our helmets. Loved the all black look too because I know recruits will.

hawkdds 2 years, 1 month ago

first down run into the pile, second down run laterally, third down throw an incomplete pass, fourth down punt 30 yards. Repeat all season long, we are so predictable New Mexico could beat us. Sorry, the truth hurts.

troutsee 2 years, 1 month ago

If Cummings starts next year, I will be shocked.

We desparately need a big upset win over WVU but the liklihood of getting that is almost nil.

danmoore 2 years, 1 month ago

I bet the players are relieved they won't have to sing the alma mater again. Must be a painful chore after losing.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years, 1 month ago

So just what is with the black unis?? Dressing up for the funeral wake??

Who's lamd brained idea was it to dress up the girls like ninhjas??Gonna jump out of the locker room and say "Boo!" and scare the daylights out of them?

I have to tell you, this indicates to me that someone is way out in the jungle on this team. You do not need to be spending money on alternate dirge uniforms, I wonder how much of the price of the over-priced tickets went into this little plan??

To me this sort of flubdubbary is really indicative of the mind set on the coaching staff and players, gimmicks instead of basic footbal training and concentration.

Let the band wear the "night on bald mountain" stuff, spend your time and money concentrating on the task at hand, playing football. Gads!!

shelleysue 2 years, 1 month ago

Really? Picking black uniforms brings this out of you? I'm guessing just about every college football player would think its bad a$$. Weis wanted different for senior night but I'm guessing that look was proposed by someone else. I also liked that the seniors didn't wear them before the game

troutsee 2 years, 1 month ago

When ISU has three QB's better than the two we have been playing and OSU can win with a 3rd string QB, it tells me how horribly Mangino and then Gill recruited this vital position. The conversion of Pick to a wide receiver by Gill after just one half of college football will always remain a mystery to me. At least with him we would have had a versatile athlete at QB.

And while I am still angry, I have also got to insult the recruiting efforts for the D line. We have the worse D line in the Big 12 and maybe in all of college football. Our pass rush STINKS.

And, one more thing. It says a lot about KU FB fans when a lot of them get on this site and complain about the color of the uniforms or whether or not names are on the back. Give me a break. I don't care if they wear pink uniforms if they win.

I do feel sorry for the seniors. I think there are some darn good football players in the senior class.

Start Jabonski! Please.!

troutsee 2 years, 1 month ago

I see where we got a committment after the game from a Juco linebacker, Failili, who was highly recruited. So, I think this coaching staff is trying its darndest to get us on track. Hopefully, next year we will have better play from the QB position and a better defense and receivers that can get open. Hopefully, there will be better timing in our pass patterns. It seemed like our receivers could not get good separation all year, but then again with inaccurate QBs.......

Andy Fischer 2 years, 1 month ago

best thing about the black uniforms, no POS Trajan font!!!

Sparko 2 years, 1 month ago

What you geniuses fail to notice is that Kansas would have beaten the other two QBs. I blame ISU for waiting until they wasted the season to make a QB change--but that sounds familiar too. Richardson was the best QB we have seen this year. Easily.

Benjamin Piehler 2 years, 1 month ago

I thought the hawks had accidentally taken the field in practice jerseys. I'm not sure who is to blame for the bad alternatives... Adidas or KU. Either way, they looked like high school jerseys.

texashawk10 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm not going to knock KU for going with black uniforms because all black is the most common alternate uniform for a school regardless of what they're actually colors are. That said, they were boring more and need some work, but there's potential to make those look really good as long as they only do it for one game a year such as homecoming or senior night and get the crowd involved to make it a black out game. The changes to the uniforms I would've made personally were change the font of the numbers and make the numbers blue with red outline. Think the numbers on Duke's black uniforms except for a red outline instead of white. I would also put a Jayhawk on the pants on both sides to add some color and make them more KU appropriate. Lastly, I would've made the helmet black with a black facemask as well along with black undershirts and socks.

One other thing I would like to see KU do with their regular uniforms (besides dumping the trajan font) is to get rid of the gray facemask. Make the facemask white because the gray facemask just doesn't stand out at all. And if they wear the white helmets, go with either a white or blue facemask because it just looks better than the gray facemask.

wildjayhawk 2 years, 1 month ago

The black uniforms, looks like Ku came with the correct color, black, black is for a funeral and that is what they got. Buryied deep..

Jeff Soisson 2 years, 1 month ago

I hate changing uniforms, keep the uniforms until they get a conference win, and then, burn them, and move on.

As I have seen many times with KU, they play like #@&% at night, would like to see their win loss record at night, terrible. But I wish it was that simple.

Yes they played better this year and pressed some teams, ok. So what.

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