Thursday, November 8, 2012

Jeff Withey says ‘funk’ history

Center ready to ‘bring it’ tonight in season opener

Kansas center Jeff Withey dunks as Washburn forward Bobby Chipman watches during the second half on Monday, Nov. 5, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas center Jeff Withey dunks as Washburn forward Bobby Chipman watches during the second half on Monday, Nov. 5, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.



Kansas center Jeff Withey dunks as Washburn forward Bobby Chipman watches during the second half on Monday, Nov. 5, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Seven-footer Jeff Withey’s head has been up in the clouds, so to speak, this exhibition season.

“I was kind of in a funk the last month and a half. Probably just in practice I haven’t been doing that well,” said Withey, Kansas University’s senior basketball center, who believes his 9-point, 7-rebound, 6-block second half against Washburn on Monday has snapped him back to reality heading into tonight’s regular-season opener against SE Missouri State (7 p.m., Allen Fieldhouse).

“That second half I kind of got it going. That’s how I need to play every half. I felt I was kind of back to myself. It definitely gave me some confidence. Hopefully I can build off that and bring it (tonight).”

Withey, who was named first-team preseason All-Big 12 and honorable mention All-America, said he doesn’t know why he’s been spaced out.

“Starting practice up again, early jitters maybe,” he said.

He hopes he and his teammates heed the words of coach Bill Self, who held a long film session Wednesday after Monday’s uninspired 12-point victory over the Ichabods.

“I talked to them, and the talk lasted longer than what I had hoped,” Self said. “It’s the same thing that we’ve been talking about. It’s leadership, enjoy winning whatever way you need to win that night. We used to make a big deal out of it like when we play teams that guard a certain way or slow it down: ‘Hey, enjoy this. Enjoy playing this way. That it’s OK to win ugly. But you’ve got to enjoy it or you can’t do it consistently over time.’”

Fifth-year senior Travis Releford said the film session, “was teaching. Coach wasn’t too mad. It was an exhibition game. We’re just forced to learn. He pointed out little things we can correct. It was learning for the whole team.”

One “little thing” is penetrating more on offense.

“That would be affirmative,” Self said, asked specifically about point guard Elijah Johnson taking it to the hoop more. “We’ve got a team full of guys that should be decent at it. The only one maybe would be Jeff that obviously wouldn’t be great at it, but the other guys are all quick, explosive and can handle pretty well. So that’s something we all need to do. But nobody’s more important in doing that than Elijah.”

The players say the message has sunk in.

“That’s a big focus coming into this game,” Releford said. “We’ve been practicing on that a lot this week. You should see a lot of that, a lot of penetrating.”

Of course, Self wants the team to remain ultra-alert on defense.

“I can never be too aggressive. It’s something I can definitely work on,” Withey said. “The start of the season is officially tomorrow (today). I can’t wait. It’s been a long time coming. I think everybody is really excited.”

Tonight’s foe, SE Missouri State, returns three starters off last year’s 15-16 team which finished fifth in the Ohio Valley Conference (9-7). Junior forward Tyler Stone, a preseason All-OVC pick, averaged 14.7 points and 7.3 rebounds a year ago. Senior guards Marland Smith and Nick Niemczyk averaged 12.3 and 9.2 ppg. Junior guard Lucas Nutt averaged 5.1 points while starting 16 games. Junior transfer forward A.J. Jones led the Redhawks with 18 points in an exhibition-opening win against Ouachita Baptist.

SE Missouri State was tapped to finish second in the West Division in the Ohio Valley Conference coaches and sports information directors 2012-13 preseason poll behind Murray State. Former KU guard Jeremy Case, who worked at SEMO the past three years, is now an assistant coach at Houston Baptist. Self and coach Dickie Nutt were on the same staff at Oklahoma State.

“Really athletic,” Self said of the Redhawks. “Our big guys will have to guard movement. They run our stuff, for the most part, so we should be familiar with what they run. They run it better than us sometimes. Dickie’s got a good team. They’ll be one of the favorites in their league.”


chriz 9 years, 2 months ago

He BETTER bring it. So far, so Perry Ellis looks like the seasoned senior. And Elijah has looked like a less-talented Tyahawn Taylor. Tyshawn and Withey are both better than this.

David Leathers 9 years, 2 months ago

Do you live in Colorado or Washington? Just curious.

chriz 9 years, 2 months ago

How'd you know?!'s hard to type and munch on Cheetos at the same time. :-) Yes, Elijah and Withey are better than this.

yates33333 9 years, 2 months ago

Of course, you mean Elijah is better than this. He needs to be more like Tyshawn.

He's right about one thing Jeff. This team needs you even more than last year's team did. You need to play like you did last year, which was great, and then play even better. If you gave 99 percent last year you need the entire 100 this year.

Obviously as the main point guard EJ you need to play much better than last year.

chriz 9 years, 2 months ago

:-) Thanks for clarifying. I even had a chance to review the post!

Steve Quatrocky 9 years, 2 months ago

So far, you are correct, but even Perry has to be more aggressive, shake that Brandon Rush syndrome of being too laid back, like its not too big for him, no big deal. Make every play a big deal is what Coach is telling them. Finish it now and move onto the next play instead of playing with the other team. Dominate them, dont play with them. As a Freshman, Brandon rarely took over games when he could have, even JuJu had flashes when he dominated opponents because of his relentless attack motor, even if some of his passes were a little too flashy.

Its OK, its way early and happy to hear it now, instead of 2 games into the real season. An ugly win in an exhibition game is much better for teaching and building a team than a 35 point blow out, it just doesnt allow any oppty/minutes for the 9th or 10th guys to compete for more. Everybody should get a chance versus SEMOState

duanep5ku 9 years, 2 months ago

Jeff not to worried about yet, just need to get the others going on offense. To Allow Jeff to do what he does best. I'm not going to say anything that he probably has not heard from Bill a lot, okay I will Jeff just make up your mind quicker, either make a scoring move or pass it to someone.

Jeff the shorter players are quick,pesky and slap happy, so if you don't go for the score just keep the ball moving,quicker decision making needed. Oh, Jeff keep up the intensity you need to bring back the beast mode for every minute on the court. Jeff a great motivator think of every player you play against, is in your path to the next level.

This post was fun to write, I understand why jaybate likes to post on here,no 140 word limits like twitter. jaybate that would probably drive you nuts,140 words or less. Is their any LJW posters on here,with twitter?

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

nice "stream of conciousness" style post. It was flowy and not constrained. Lacking structure, but not hard to read. Would never fly in English comp, but fly like a kite in the ocean breeze of the friendly preseason basketball message boards.

I_am_History 9 years, 2 months ago

"Funk" me? I say "Funk" you Jeff Withey!

David Leathers 9 years, 2 months ago

What the funk are you talking about, you mother funker!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 2 months ago

"Check it out now, Funk Soul Brother" ....FBSlim

Michael Auchard 9 years, 2 months ago

I'd be highly surprised if either Johnson or Withey are lethargic down the stretch. The point is: getting there. Take no little thing for granted. Put your hardhats on and go to work early and often. People say early wins/losses don't matter, but those people are apologists for the lazy and the weak.

Thing is, you wear KANSAS on your jersey now.

I think to start on a 1 seed, you need to beat up Michigan State. Beat them down. Make it messy. Don't wait until three games into conference to show up. From what I've seen in earlier games, I'll say this: get your heads on straight. Figure out who the **** you're passing to. It should be a pretty simple game you guys are playing, at least against a D2 team. You're not alpha dogs anymore, you Freshmen gotta know that.

Remember, the higher you climb that ladder the tougher it gets; remember you've got millions of people behind you. That's not supposed to be pressure -- it's support.

nostradavid 9 years, 2 months ago

Listen to "Funk 49" by the James Gang before the game, Jeff. Let Joe Walsh blow your cobwebs away.

jaybate 9 years, 2 months ago


Good to see you airing it out.

Twitter has its place. Its good for outing anything quick and reacting-- good for saying yes, no, or OMG.

But for thoughtful public discourse, Twit's a bad fit--a straight jacket.

America was founded on pamphlets, newspapers, commentaries, declarations, articles and constitutions written at length with strong points of view, and read and reflected on in the privacy of homes. Not just on interactive, analog town hall meetings.

It has to be preserved and continued by all the same--adapted to digital interactivity.

Not endless, unnecessary, tedious, naval contemplation length, but vital, hard fought, scaling a mountain, crossing a continent, fighting to make some sense of it length. Length from new angles. Length from common sense and length from intellect. Length pursuing essence and importance and insight, no matter how circuitously. Length with reason and patience and determination.

Going long is only wrong when nothing worthy is being strived for, nothing illuminating is being quested after, no empowering understanding is being struggled toward, when propaganda and talking points are all that are being foisted.

In the chaff is wheat.

Ad astra per aspera.

Rock Chalk

Alohahawk 9 years, 2 months ago

"To the Stars with Difficulty." (ie. To the National Championship through adversity.) Always have thought the State of Kansas has one of the better state mottos. And that could probably fit as Coach Self's motto as well.

There's just about always a lot of adverse, but worthwhile, commentary on this board. Maybe moreso over the last few days (since the Washburn game). Lots of questions, which bring up just as many opinions. Lots of posters getting their feet wet and posting longer posts than they normally do. Question is, will the players ignore most of what they read and let Coach Self lead them along his chosen path? Or will they take any of the comments on here to heart, or as constructive criticism? Whatever way, IMHO, each Jayhawk (even some of the walk-ons) has the ability to climb the ladder and earn mpg. They had the confidence to do so when they signed on. There's no reason they can't improve on where they are sitting (literally speaking) currently.

Can Rootbeer (my personal nickname for AWIII) improve his defense and limit his turnovers? Can Rio limit his turnovers? If so, they both have great upsides. Because turnovers and defense have always been the keys to playing time with Coach Self. He doesn't like giving the opposing team more scoring chances than necessary. (ie. Remember Tharpe and his turnover problems last season.) And if a player can't play good defense on the court, they will soon get to know what it's like watching, instead of playing during games. With the time put in during practice, it must be frustrating having to sit games out. So, if you're reading this, don't get disheartened, guys. Trust in yourselves and your abilities. You wouldn't be wearing a Jayhawk uniform if Coach Self hadn't believed in you when he offered you a schorship.

Game day one is here. Time to Rock Chalk, Jayhawks!!!!

Tony Bandle 9 years, 2 months ago

The Kansas State Motto is much better than my home state, Missouri [give me a break...I was a fetus!!]. Methodus notra vidas, translated, Meth Is Our Life!!

RJ King 9 years, 2 months ago

Given all the meth surrounding your fetal state, I'm glad you turned out OK.

KansasComet 9 years, 2 months ago

Excited for another season. Exhibition games are over, now the big lights are on, and the real games begin. Time to find out who Coach Self trust, and who will earn Coach Self's trust. Hopefully this game will bring out some intensity from the team as a whole.

Jeremy Bolinger 9 years, 2 months ago

Withey clearly benefitted from having Thomas last year, as well as a penetrating Tyshawn to dish it off. We're going to need a few guys to step up in a T-Rob role in alot of games if we expect to Jeff be the same kind of player we saw last year. My two cents.

hotrodm 9 years, 2 months ago

To the entire team. How hard can it be to give 100% playing a game that you apparently love. Most players are only on the court for 20 to 30 minutes of the game. Give it your all or go flip hamburgers. This is your chance in life to play a game and impress the scouts, so you can play for the big money overseas or in the NBA. Don't blow your draft staus by playing less than 100% effort. Play hard or go home. There are plenty of good athletes on this team that can replace any one of you.

jayhawkeratheart 9 years, 2 months ago

Have to agree with you. However in defense of the players, I doubt that the hard future of the big bucks has set in yet, and they are still trying to live up to the standards set by coach Bill. Youth has it's disadvantages, when it comes to being able to grasp the big picture, and realize that this is more than just a game, but a building block for a great future. Looking back, players continue to do stupid things off the court, that cause problems for the whole team. Not that, that is relevant to this post, but it is still an issue, and demonstrates the lack of maturity found in the youth. The guys do have to make the commitment to give it their all, for the whole time they are on the floor, because every minute counts toward the win. If they continue to be so so, then they may as well find another adventure in life. Withey, needs to make his mind up quickly and commit to the play at hand, and position himself as the force that he can be, every time the play demands it. Quick decisions, strong moves, and KEEP THE BALL ABOVE YOUR HEAD are key to success.

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

the options are play hard or flip burgers?

What about getting a degree and having a career outside of basketball?

Stan Unruh 9 years, 2 months ago

It's a long basketball season. Jeff knows that. He's pacing himself. He'll be just fine when he needs to be. Excited to get game #1 in the books today!

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

Game Day!!!!!!!!! And the first chapter of this story begins. I love stories, the drama that unfolds over the season and there are so many storylines with this Jayhawk squad.

1) Jeff Withey-How will he produce without T-Rob? Ellis and T-Rob are two completely different players, but Ellis, like T-Rob has the opportunity to take some pressure off of Withey. The only difference is that Ellis can't do it by himself and will need help from EJ, McLemore, Relly, and KY to take that pressure off.

Withey is going to have his ups and downs this season, but Withey goes where those other players go/improve over the course of the season.

2) Will Ellis develop a jump shot? How does he compliment Withey? How does his calm, collected, and composed competitive natuture translate to this squad when you need to get dirty, need a big bucket, or just simply need to buckle down and get a big defensive stop?

3) How will EJ be as a leader? What kind of PG will he be? Will he be a spot up 3 point shooter falsely masking as a jump shooter, or will he actually get his elbows and knees dirty penetrating, gettting to the basket, kicking out to others around the arc, and or setting up other in the post with better postioning or oops.

4) Will Relly become the nations best defender and ultimate "Glue Guy"? Will Relly become a double digit scorer for this squad? Will Relly emerge as the "Team Leader" for this squad?

5) Will B-Mac emerge as the "Lottery Pick" that the national media analysts seem to be labeling him? No pressure, huh? Or, will B-Mac be back for his red-shirt sophomore campaign? Good thing is that we should know that answer by January or February.

6) What happens with Zach Peters injury and does Landon Lucas sit out more games for a possible red-shirt? Peters redshirt, Lucas redshirt, or both redshirt? The good thing is that Self doesn't take his red-shirts lightly and whomever does end up red-shirting, a place for you is definitely in the making for your future. It's not always about "Now", but Championship runs in the future.

7) Does KY get back just in time for Michigan State? How long will his time away and his injury put him behind trying to get back his rhythm while on the court? Will he or will he not still have the fro for his debut?

8) How will J-Train flourish with his role off the bench? Can he guard 3's and 4's that can shoot from the perimeter?

9) Will Tharpe have best assist/TO ratio on the squad and be able to be the most efficent player on the team coming off the bench spelling EJ, Relly, and B-Mac? Will he be able to change the perception of the "Brady Haters" and "Rio2 Lovers" and give those posters a taste of their own medicine?


Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

BTW ralster, I loved your old avatar the best. With all due respect, who is A2?

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

BTW Ralster, I loved your old avatar the best. With all due respect, who is A2?

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

10) How do Rio2 and AW3 pick up their "Freshman Funk" over the course of a college season? Does AW3 become a DSR 50 Sniper rifle and pick up crucial minutes and big shots off the bench or does he fade off into the distance and become a Liberator Pistol waiting for his turn in the coming years? Does Rio2's defensive mindset garner him minutes?

Should be fun nonetheless and I am excited to see these storylines unfold.

jaybate 9 years, 2 months ago

Before the ex games, I warned about SEMSU. Warning stands. Okie Ball vs. Okie Ball. They are big enough to muddy it up and likely will; this is why Self put EJ on notice about touching paint. SEMSU will have trouble with EJ's height. Foul up their bigs quick, then separate. Defend strength: AJ. Attack weakness: point guard. Prepare for some smash mouth lite in prep for smash mouth bok in Atlanta.

jaybate 9 years, 2 months ago


Definitive list of cliff hangers. Got me juiced. Roll'em out. Let's play!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 2 months ago

Jeff needs to call TRob and get some inspiration. He can call him during the next two Kings games, I hear.

REHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

Whence comes leadership? I am tuned to mode: leadership alert.

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

SEMO should be a good test for us. We play a similar game, which means that we should be more comfortable against SEMO than against Washburn. I expect a 30+ point blowout victory, but it we come out flat as against Washburn then it will be another close game.

Do we have any other Show-Me staters on the schedule? Are we going to see mo' than just SEMO? If not then we better show 'em what Kansas Basketball and Allen Fieldhouse are all about.

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

Jeremy Case is now another Hawk in Houston. Welcome!

While that probably won't be enough to convince me to go to any HBU games, I am looking forward to getting some tickets to see Cole and Marcus with the Rockets this year.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

"Why is it that every time I start a season somebody seems to doubt me? Come on Man... Funk Dat!"

Jeff Withey

HawkKlaw 9 years, 2 months ago

"How come ev'ry time they make a Robin 'Ood movie, they burn our village down? Leave us alone, Mel Brooks!"

Cody Riedy 9 years, 2 months ago

Getting Kevin Young back, whenever that is, will help this team. He's not super-talented, but they could really use the energy he brings. Even last year at times, it seemed like his energy and aggression charged the team and contributed to offensive and defensive runs.

joeloveshawks 9 years, 2 months ago

Pretty much every ESPN College Basketball preview article talks about Withey...and his dominating performance in the NCAA tournament and his holding Anthony Davis to 1-10 from the field, etc. Then I saw last night Sports Illustrated picked KU to be the #3 team in the country and the entire bit on KU is about Withey. I think Withey is just feeling a bit of the pressure. Last year he had literally zero expectations from even KU fans, let alone the national media. Hopefully he will let all of this hype set in and get back to last seasons form.

Theonlythingthatexceedsyourbad 9 years, 2 months ago

He is the best shot blocker in the country - his timing and anticipation is unbelievable. This year he is only more aggressive. He'll dominate the defensive paint like no other this year.

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

So looks like Tonight's Rotation 1. EJ 2. BMac 3. Trel 4. Ellis 5. Withey

Off the bench: Thaarpe and AWIII (could be Rio, but I doubt it - Rio & AWIII will fight for the 9th spot: 5-7minutes max) Traylor and Wesley (KY instead of Wesley when he gets back: 10-15minutes)

This will be the 9 man rotation for this year, which is one more than Self favorite number of 8. If neither AWIII and Rio improve, then they will be relegated to the last few minutes of blowouts only.

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

BigManU: How do you make paragraphs and lists? My lists always end up on the same line!

Ron Prichard 9 years, 2 months ago

Sometimes I wonder if some of the longer posts are typed on a separate word document and then cut and pasted into the comment box. I, too, would like to know the answer to your question.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

Just talking basketball my friend. No more no less. No, my comments are not typed on a separate word document. That one took me about 5 min or less. Sorry if doesn't meet your grammatical standards.

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

BigManU - You misunderstood my post.

I was asking for tips to make the lists look like lists, instead of run-on sentences. Like putting a '' around a word makes it an italic. '*" makes it bold. How do I make a list or start a new paragraph. If you noticed in post above, I listed the line-up, but it ended up in the same sentence.

Edit: Just realized, maybe hitting enter twice moves the sentence to the next line. Testing

  1. Elijah

  2. BMac

  3. TRel

  4. Perry

  5. Withey

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

Got it. I am so smart I can have a message board conversation all by myself.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

Got ya! I am not really sure. LJW does not let you put things on top of one another without it going side by side in sentence format. It's irritated me for a while. I am going to list all the players on top of each other and it will probably go side by side.

1) EJ

2) Relly

3) B-Mac

4) Ellis

5) Withey

Wow! I just noticed there is an "Edit" button! Cool! I just hit enter twice as well and it gave me a list like I wanted.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

  1. EJ
  2. Relly
  3. B-Mac
  4. Ellis
  5. Withey

Interesting, I did it both ways and it still gave me a list. Maybe somebody complained about it and they fixed it.

Ron Prichard 9 years, 2 months ago

Well, you both answered my question, too. Thanks.

Robert Brock 9 years, 2 months ago

The big Q: will Ellis be capable of defending and can he rebound against the bigs as a freshman? The Michigan State game may shed some light on the answer.

702Hawk 9 years, 2 months ago

The great news for Ellis is even if big guys push him in the paint Withey should be there for help defense. Withey needs to practice swatting towards center court for EJ. Then he wouldn't need to run as much.

Andy Godwin 9 years, 2 months ago

Whitey needs to stop making excuses and step up as the team's leader. Last year the other players had to rile him up to play aggressive. At this point in his career it is time to lead by example. Withey needs to step up and play like the pre-season All American the so called "experts" have anointed him. Being a lottery pick is as much motivation as any player needs.

Luke Kay 9 years, 2 months ago

I could not agree more! I am so tired of hearing these stories and excuses about jeff and his need to be motivated to play. We have been hearing them since his first year with the team. Does anybody else wonder if his heart is in this? I am beginning to wonder if he even likes basketball. I am so excited about this team and we should be very fun to watch, but this year Jeff is a corner stone by necessity. He is a senior and a force to be reckoned with... when he feels like it.

Jeff, here is your motivation... You are a Starting senior on KU, one of the most storied programs in all of sports. People dream of being where you are right now. You have millions of people watching and pulling for you every time you play. Your destiny is in your hands and you have been given all the tools and support needed to accomplish whatever you want. There is no reason in the world for your head to not be in the game and even less of a reason for us to have to talk trash on you at halftime for you to finally get you angry enough to show up. Its sink or swim time Jeff, there is nobody to bail you out this year.

KansasComet 9 years, 2 months ago

Who is "Whitey?" Sorry, couldn't help it. No hard feelings?

GlobalJayhawk 9 years, 2 months ago

"Hopefully I can build off that and bring it (tonight).”

Hopefully is not a very optimistic word. C'mon Jeff!

What does everybody think Jeff's line will be tonight?

My prediction -

11 points 7 boards *3 blocks

jbal32 9 years, 2 months ago

18 pts 13 boards 6 blocks, I think he is going to have a monster game after Washburn.

justinryman 9 years, 2 months ago

I will let all the talk to the press go. I will take what I see on the court night in and night out as what degree his "funk" is.

Hey the first step is to admit you're in a funk.

So he's already on his way to recovery.

RockChalkGuy 9 years, 2 months ago

Game On ! ! !

The wait is finally over. Good riddance to the 2012 off season.

Christopher Hauser 9 years, 2 months ago

Withey needs to do a better job of keeping the ball above his head when he catches. I am sure he is critiqued about this everyday by the coaching staff. I think this is the main reason that Withey does not play as well on the offensive end against smaller opponents. Slap happy is easy when a 7 footer nullifies their height by not keeping the ball high.

Ron Prichard 9 years, 2 months ago

Like akg and Krazyjhawk, I wonder how Withey could be in yet another funk. Last year the blueprint for success was laid out in front of him. Be agressive with every move, every shot, every moment you are in the game. Throw on top of that he is a senior and this is his last chance for a ring. Finally, he has to know that if he has another dominating year he will have just played himself into millions of dollars. If he's just average, he may end up in Europe for the next 10 years.

It's frustrating because we have seen what Withey is capable of doing, even without relying on TRob. It's frustrating because--at least from our perspective--he still doesn't seem to realize how good he can be and what it will take to get there.

C'mon, Jeff!! All of Jayhawk Nation is behind you! Now go kick some funk!!

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

How have we seen what Withey can do without T-Rob? Are you suggesting that the two exhibition games showed that? First game is tonight so he's never played a regular season game without T-Rob.

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

there were games last year when TRob spent substantial time on the bench and Withey thrived. I'm thinking Baylor in Waco. Now... given that was against a weak Baylor zone D, but still. Several games I remember Withey excelling with TRob on the bench. Also, a few games the team improved when TRob sat down. Obviously, that was not the norm, but a struggling TRob really held the team down before he was a majority of the offense when he was in. If he was struggling then the team was bad, when we took him out Withey got a chance to be showcased.

Chris Shaw 9 years, 2 months ago

Plastic, I love ya man, but T-Rob played 32 min that game shot 6-11 for 15 points and grabbed 11 rebounds with 4 personal fouls, which was the same amount of fouls that Withey had.

My only point I am trying to make is that Withey isn't going to have as easy as he had it last year. I looking forward to the storyline, but the other four starters are going to have to pick him up because he isn't the offensive minded player we all hope for. If he becomes a 2nd or 3rd option, that is bad news IMO for Kansas.

Ron Prichard 9 years, 2 months ago

I second plastic's comments. While we didn't see a lot of Withey without TRob last year, we did see times when he was the man without TRob in the game.

Even if you disagree with that premise, my underlying argument is still the same. Withey needs to play like there's no tomorrow. He is being relied upon by Self and this team to be a major presence in the paint and even to dominate at times. Knowing that, and knowing that if he does those things he will set himself up for years to come, he can't have weeks and games when he is in a funk. A bad game, yes. In a funk when his head is not in the game for whatever reason, no.

Withey's time is now. Last year was TRob's and Tyshawn's. This year is Withey's and EJ's and Releford's. They don't get any more do overs.

This entire year, Withey probably has between 800-900 minutes of game time to show the world who he is. If he spends 3-4 games in a funk, that's about 100 minutes wasted. That simply can't happen this year.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 2 months ago

Seeing the word missouri on a teams uniform ought to get anyone fired up, even if it has a southeast in front of it.

HawkKlaw 9 years, 2 months ago

Withey just has more peaks and valleys in his performances than most basketball players. Last year, he was huge in some games and seemingly non-existent in others. It took Self lighting a fire under him to get those breakout performances.

Jeff needs to learn how to motivate himself every single game without needing to be scorned by the coach or his teammates. He has to be ready to go every night, otherwise NBA scouts will portray him as a guy who doesn't put forth effort all the time. He's got the size, he just needs to be aggressive. I think it's just Jeff Withey's nature to be passive but he really needs to get himself ready mentally before he steps on the court. Every night, JW!

Tony Bandle 9 years, 2 months ago

In honor of the start of the season, I will make a list of things we can all be grateful for.

1] I am grateful that Dr.James Naismith got bored one winter long ago.

2] I am grateful for the fact that Allen Fieldhouse will still be standing during my lifetime.

3] I am grateful for the fact that my 90 year old Dad worked three jobs to insure that none of his five sons would have to go to Missouri whom he has hated since he was in college.

4] I am grateful for every great coach who has lead the Jayhawks onto the floor.

5] I am grateful that "The Rules" ae coming home and that David Booth would have gone to 10 mil to do it.

6] I am grateful I can say I am a Jayhawk,...not a Tiger, Wildcat, Blue Devil, Tarheel, Hoosier or Bruin.

7] I am grateful for all you fellow posters whom I consider comrades in arms. [Even the ones who are so darn irritating ;) ]

8] And, for all it's faults, shortcomings and hassles, I am most grateful that I am an AMERICAN!!

tashe2 9 years, 2 months ago

Does anyone know what happened to Danny Manning's son? He is not on the roster anymore, but Tyler Self is? Did they reshirt manning, did he not make the team, or did he transfer to Tulsa?

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

Which roster are you referring to? The one on this site certainly has him.

He is injured (wearing a boot) but still on the team.

Jackster 9 years, 2 months ago

Can someone please post a link to watch the game tonight? I appreciate it.

FarSideHawk 9 years, 2 months ago

If you get espn3, then it will be on there.

Otherwise, usually has it.

if these don't work, then look at commentary page at game time, someone always posts a link.

dynamitehawk 9 years, 2 months ago

DIckie Nutt is a funny name. Funk DickIe Nutt.

Jackster 9 years, 2 months ago

Is Dickie Nutt related to Houston Nutt?

Jonathan Allison 9 years, 2 months ago

the brothers Nutt? As a matter of fact, yes.

Sam Constance 9 years, 2 months ago

Not sure, but I bet he's related to Dees Nutts.

(I'm so sorry--it was just sitting there waiting for me)

hucking_fawks_rock 9 years, 2 months ago

I'm not sure, but anyone who names their kid Dickie, with a last name of Nutt, has a great sense of humor.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 2 months ago

Only parents with a better sense of humor are the NASCAR driver Dick Trickle's parents!

Priest Fontaine 9 years, 2 months ago

It looks like my usual watch sites in NYC cannot get the game tonight due to the coverage on the Jayhawk Network :(

Our season opener should be a national holiday! Who do I blame for this?!!!

Priest Fontaine 9 years, 2 months ago

Any good links to watch online would be appreciated!

Jackster 9 years, 2 months ago

Kind of like the family with the last name of "Hawg" that named their twin girls "Ima" and "Shesa". Gotta love that!

KGphoto 9 years, 2 months ago

I can't imagine trying to get ramped up for an exhibition game after the last 6 games the Hawks have played. I mean they had to do absolutely NOTHING to reach maximum ampage for at least the last 3 of those, then you take the summer, have a few hard practices and welcome Div. II schools that everybody is expecting you to destroy.

I have no doubt why Withey, and the rest of the returning starters, would be in a funk.

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