Saturday, November 3, 2012

KU basketball recruit Joel Embiid to narrow list next week


Cameroon basketball sensation Joel Embiid, a 7-foot, 220-pound senior center from Rock School in Gainesville, Fla., is making an official recruiting visit to Marquette this weekend.

It marks the fifth — and final — visit for Embiid, a late-bloomer who is currently unranked, but expected to wind up somewhere in the Top 50.

Embiid, who was in Lawrence for the Oct. 12 Late Night in the Phog, has also visited Florida, Texas and Virginia.

Fellow Cameroon native Luc Mbah a Moute of the Milwaukee Bucks has been assisting Embiid in the recruiting process.

“It’s really tight between those schools,” Mbah a Moute told the Racine Journal-Times. Embiid is new to the workings of major-college basketball. He took up the sport less than two years ago.

“We’re going to narrow it down to three schools next week,” Mbah a Moute told the Journal-Times. “We’ll be looking for an opportunity to play a lot right away. He hasn’t played that long and needs to continue his development. And, of course, we’re going to look at academics and what these schools can offer him.”

Embiid will major in business, the Journal-Times reported.

DeCourcy’s view: Mike DeCourcy of the Sporting News, who was a panelist at Bill Self’s “A Courtside View” on Thursday night at Crown Toyota, wrote a piece about the Jayhawks on Friday.

“KU is very good. The Jayhawks have an abundance of players who can score and will develop into another of coach Bill Self’s typically stingy defensive teams. It is not likely to be a No. 1 seed, though that’s not impossible, but Kansas will be a fixture in the top 10,” DeCourcy wrote.

Kabongo status unknown: Texas is awaiting word from the NCAA on the fate of sophomore point guard Myck Kabongo, who is under investigation by the NCAA. The Austin American-Statesman said the organization “is trying to determine whether a pro agent paid for his trip to Cleveland last spring. That would constitute an NCAA violation and could compromise Kabongo’s eligibility.”

Word is expected in time for the Nov. 9 season-opener versus Fresno State.

Freshman Javan Felix, 5-11 from New Orleans, will likely start at the point if preseason All-Big 12 pick Kabongo is ruled out.

“Javan’s going to shock the country,” UT’s Sheldon McClellan told the American-Statesman.

Coach Rick Barnes told ESPN: “Playing the ‘what-if’ game, we expect what can go wrong will go wrong. We actually have that attitude and have tried to develop more than one point guard. That’s why we wanted a style of basketball where if someone goes down, we don’t have to make that big of an adjustment. We are always constantly developing guys. It is what it is. It’s out of our hands, and out of his hands.”


makeshift 1 year, 5 months ago

Sorry if I missed something, but who is "The Designer", who Jaybate kept mentioning?


okiedave 1 year, 5 months ago

Texas' basketball mantra -- "...What can go wrong, will go wrong" History pretty much establishes that.


phogphan2000 1 year, 5 months ago

The way Luc Mbah a Moute spoke it's hard to imagine Embiid not going to Marquette. Seems like they've got a great business school, it's in Milwaukee and playing time is most likely available immediately. I just hope if he steers him that way it isn't from his own power trip in mentoring the kid. He obviously played at a national power, and I'm certain it would be a huge boost to Joel's play to go to a school like KU. Don't know how many NBA big men have come out of Marquette.


phogphan2000 1 year, 5 months ago

On the other article about the panelists I thought KansasComet overreacted to any disrespect from the panel members. With this quote from DeCourcy I'd have to agree with him. I guess it depends on how you view the phrase "not likely" when he refers to a 1 seed. Granted I don't care if it's a 1 or a 2 as long as it's in Arlington, but he's basically talking out of both sides of his mouth. "Oh we didn't rank you guys high enough...but we aren't off by much" Well gee, so basically you don't know where you'd rank KU. If "not likely" means less than a 50% chance of being a 1 seed, I'm not sure any particular team is "likely" to be a 1 seed. I don't know for sure what the odds are, but that'd be like only offering even odds on say IU to win the B1G outright. Sure they are the favorites, but does that mean it's a 50/50 proposition? But I'd go so far as to say the words "not likely" mean it's a bit of a longshot for KU to end up a 1 seed. That's kind of ridiculous, if you think they're a top10 team it's not a longshot to end up with a 1, especially when you're expected to win the Big12 conference outright. I would say UNC or Duke might be longshots, or MSU, Gonzaga, Misery, UF, but KU is right in the hunt with UK, UofL, IU, NCSt, OSU, Michigan and there aren't going to be 3 #1 seeds from the B1G. I'd give KU a solid 30% shot at ending up a 1 seed, so if you're a physicist/statistician you'd say low probability, in this context "not likely" is way off base.


RJ King 1 year, 5 months ago

Brandon Rush to have surgery for torn ACL. Out for season after only two games.

Damn. Take care little Warrior.


jaybate 1 year, 5 months ago

Sad to hear Joel Embiid appears to be marching to Mbah a Moute's cadence increasingly.

Mbah a Moute makes clear Embiid needs a lot of PT to come to a school.

Well, I've got news for Joel and Mbah a Moute.

Unless The Designer jumps to Sternville, or Zach Peters cuff means he is done in basketball, KU has a solid three man rotation coming back next season.

The Designer is going to be a lottery pick after next season.

Peters is going to be a very serious banger with a nice touch next season, if the cuff heals.

And Landen Lucas is going to be very, very good next season. He showed me late in one exhibition game reason to be very optimistic about what he will become by the middle of next season. We've got another Kieff on our hands. His junior season he will really blossum.

That leaves a 4th spot for a guy who has played the game one season, two by April.

It would be a great spot for Embiid to mature for a season in, before taking over a starting role his sophomore year. If he matured fast, he would get all the minutes he wanted. And if he struggled, it would be no problem at all. Self could afford to bring him along slowly.

It is what would be best for Embiid's development. At KU, Embiid would be guarantied the kind of stability, coaching, weight training, skill development and "right way" types that would ensure Embiid would have a long and fabulously prosperous NBA career, instead of just the fastest path to Sternville.

Embiid could get pretty much the same thing at Florida with Donovan, but I doubt that Florida will have Wayne Selden, Brannen Green and Conner Frankamp coming in to go with BenMac, The Designer and the rest.

But Mbah a Moute wants the fast path. Lots of minutes quick.

No one is higher on Embiid than me. But it seems unlikely that Embiid would be able to start for KU next season, unless The Designer goes pro, and either Zach quits the game for injury reasons, or Lucas red shirts. Lucas will be too good by next season to red shirt for a green project like Embiid.

Virginia? Tony Bennett? Fuggedaboutit.

I want Embiid here at KU, regardless of who else we land. Embiid is special, but special with a longer development time. It is where he belongs and where he can become the next Olajuwan.

But Mbah a Moute needs to stop thinking about how quick the money comes, and start thinking instead about how much money could come, if Embiid gets brought along correctly.

And I'm only talking about one year of limited minutes and seasoning before Embiid likely becomes the best center in D1 and a top Five lottery pick.

Luke, don't be a prisoner of your own experience with Ben Fouland. KU's coaching staff really can develop players. Not everyone is like Fouland and Calipari. Not everyone just plays'em out of the box, and lets them find their own way to get better. Playing for Self and KU is a fabulous fit for Embiid's need to develop.

Let it happen, Luke.


jdhawk1988 1 year, 5 months ago

7' 220lbs let me introduce you to Hudy. He would be 245 by the time he left and if you want to focus on development most of that happens at practice and with our depth we would have to be the best for that.


Vernon Riggs 1 year, 5 months ago

When the Marquette Asst Coach had a in-home visit with Joel, all he could talk about was the ESPN's show 30 for 30, No Place Like Home that played the night before. He went to Late Night. He is a strong Kansas Lean.


mikehawk 1 year, 5 months ago

Read between the lines. This guy is going to Marquette.


Zstegs 1 year, 5 months ago

If they're looking for academics too and he wants to be a business major, this would be a good fit.


Boouk 1 year, 5 months ago

I think DeCourcy will end up wrong about KU not being a 1 seed. KU might not be a top 4 team, but its kind of hard for me to see them losing more than 4 times in the regular season. They'll most likely lose only 1 or 2 non-conference games and 2 or 3 conference games.


Miguel Colón 1 year, 5 months ago

Question, do we have enough room for Embiid and another person?


flyingfinn 1 year, 5 months ago

Yes we need another footer to replace Withy


William Blake 1 year, 5 months ago

I hope Joel considers more than playing time. He should look at the players who will play beside him because these guys will compliment Joel's game.

KU can help him most!

Come join us, Joel!

Rock Chalk!


Robert Brock 1 year, 5 months ago

I would like to see the Hawks land both Randle and Embiid. Randle, the one-and-done, would play while Embiid, the total project, sits on the pine and takes notes. Embiid would be in Lawrence for four years and would develop into a solid defender by his fourth year.


bradynsdad 1 year, 5 months ago

Wanting to play immediately might be a problem. Peters is the type of banger self likes, Ellis will only get better, traylor will be in his 3rd year in selfs system, and and that's assuming Lucas develops slow and we don't land randle. Either way I see KU being even more dominate the next 2 to 3 years.


swunruhawk 1 year, 5 months ago

Hope Milwaukee has a blizzard this weekend. KU has just what Embiid needs for basketball and business.


REHawk 1 year, 5 months ago

JoJo would appear to be a perfect fit for KU's "biggest" need next season, a warrior at the 5 position. That said, he had best be prepared to engage in a huge battle for starting minutes, as the Bill Self system involves intensity of focus and determination to accompany natural size and skill. In 2013-14 the Jayhawks look to be tremendously talented and/or experienced at positions 1-4, with the 5 position still up for grabs after the departure of Jeff Withey. An ambitious tall recruit with the upside of Joel Embiid just might find himself in the most perfect of all possible situations at the University of Kansas for 3 or 4 seasons of highly televised and supremely well coached winning basketball. Over time, Andrea Hudy and Co. would turn that 7' 220 pound frame into an absolute monster.


jayhawkinATL 1 year, 5 months ago

With Withey leaving for the NBA, Embiid has to be thinking that KU is THE logical choice for some immediate playing time at the five.


Mike Acosta 1 year, 5 months ago

You want to play pro ball, play for KU me boy!


mojayhawk 1 year, 5 months ago

Coach Self develops players like no other. If I'm a Big and need to develop. I go to KU, hands down.


Michael Johnson 1 year, 5 months ago

only been playing a couple of years? sounds like too big a project to me. the game from lucas the other night, makes me think we don't need this guy. if he chooses kansas though, i'll welcome him aboard.


KULA 1 year, 5 months ago

"We’ll be looking for an opportunity to play a lot right away." That doesn't bode well for Kansas and Bill Self.


cobrastang06 1 year, 5 months ago

Got to echo the word stated above. As was brought up on the board a few weeks ago. Where else in the country could a big man make a transition to elite nba prospect. I know i m biased. But this guys got HCBS project written all over him.


Mark Lindrud 1 year, 5 months ago

We've got depth everywhere and another center would make us deep for quite awhile in the post. Whomever said Self has issues recruiting is being foolish. We were underrated last year and went to the title game. We are strong, we are Jayhawks, never lose faith.


Scott MacWilliams 1 year, 5 months ago

Hey Mr. Embiid,

I think you would love playing for Bill Self, and Jayhawk Nation would love to have you polish your game at the best possible place to play the college game, the incredible Allen Field House.

Rock Chalk, Joel Hawks!!!


Jay Dogger 1 year, 5 months ago

Would love to have Embiid. As far as playing time goes...don't Texas and Florida already have quite a few good Bigs? Anyone know about Virginia and Marquette?


Miguel Colón 1 year, 5 months ago

Come on Joel, we will love to have you at KU!


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